crockett

No he's actually so fucking delusional that he probably expects people to believe his bullshit.

Jel

I'm staying out of this thread as tbh I'd also have been unable to show pics of me and my wife, and we were together 15 years, yet weren't friends on facebook etc, so I'm not ready to go one way or the other with this; but that was funny either way

MetaMan

if my wife/girlfriend had the friggin cold i would be able to prove it in 2 seconds. especially if i was asking people for money. i would be upfront from the very beginning and not pull some backtracking kind of crap.

SilentKnight

This is all a bunch of horseshit.

I think after all that's transpired in this thread - the digging that's been done - the excuses, stall tactics and lack of proof that this situation is genuine...I'd say either he provides verifiable proof or we contact the Ontario Provincial Police and/or the RCMP and suggest they look into it further.

I initially fell for it at the beginning...and briefly considered donating a little. But this went off the rails and smells like bullshit to me now.

Jel

well I can't see his problem then, being as everyone is obviously you and vice versa. you've swayed me from my neutral position, thanks!


seriously though..... like I said - I can see both sides here, so I'll reserve judgement for a little while yet

sonofsam

I agree it's bullshit

If you guys do something like that though, please leave me out of it

I was just trying to save people money

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I'd like to give the guy benefit of the doubt too, but we are on day 4 and no even remotely reasonable "proof" has been posted so far...

how hard would it have been to on day one post something as simple as some test results, or picture of "medical equipment" or picture of meds she is taking, etc...? even a business card of a doctor treating her or even some letter from a hospital with everything blurred out except the letter head would have been better than nothing...

I don't want to jump to conclusions just yet, but it's not looking good so far...

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Yngwie

ok so now I'm still lying.. my girlfriend will NOT show you any docs. This was her decision and that's the way it is. I find it hilarious how a lot of stuff if being based on facebook.. no pics, no this, no that.. blah blah.. who cares, Fact of the matter is she is my gf and she does have cancer.. Now you're trying to say that my mom is a liar. my cousin (her niece) has cancer so if you think that she would go along with a lie like this you are fucking insane. No matter what I do at this point it won't matter because EVERYONE is on ONE wavelength and that is that I'm a scammer, a liar or whatever else you want to think.

This is one of the reasons that I did not tell her about this at the beginning. I didn't want her to have to deal with shit like this. The fact is, if I had told her when I started this, this thread would have still went the same way. She would still NOT have released her medical documents and everyone would be screaming blue murder.. Think it's scam? a lie? Call the cops! Lets me if they can set you straight after they would see that NONE of what I said was a lie. That's not a joke either.

And I have been upfront from the very beginning. Ya, no medical documentation has been shown, but that was HER choice. My gf is allowed to show/not show what she wants. I'm not backtracking, but it seems most people here are making shit up now.. With me borrowing $ to buy a flat screen tv and not paying the $ back? Really?? I know exactly when, where and how I bought that tv and it wasn't due to ANYONE on any msg board or even the internet, but I'm tired of explaining myself every damn time for every damn thing. As I said in the 1st section of this post, go ahead, get the cops involved. I don't have a single thing to worry about since I didn't lie about anything.

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again NO MEDICAL DOCUMENTATION WILL BE SHOWN!

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OneHungLo

My father had lung cancer with mets to the brain and I can assure you at the drop of a hat I could have scanned and sent someone here 100s of pieces of undeniable proof. For all we know he logged on to his mother's facebook page and posted that or asked her to post something for his "girl" "friend" that has cancer.

We're on day 4 now and all we have is, at best, a single sketchy facebook posting.

Jel

yeah that's pretty much where I am with it

Jel

easy tiger - you seem to be of the persuasion I'm saying all is well. I'm not (even less so after the last post, but again, I'll wait until someone calls the old bill, which undoubtedly they will, and see what comes of that before throwing my proverbial hat into the ring on this one)

sonofsam

Can you explain why your "girlfriend" Tammy



Is also on your facebook as Amber with the same picture, and only 1 friend (you) ?



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yes, that was a fb she made as an extra when she used to play the fb games like farmville and the others so she could send herself stuff.. big deal. That fb she hasn't used in a long time since she no longer plays these games.

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sonofsam

I'm going to call it now. This is my best guess

Amber/Tammy is a made up girlfriend (That was obvious), but she was made up well before this scam. This part is sad, but probably what happened was that his family would be on his case for not having a girlfriend at age 40 (shit happens) and he made her up so he wouldn't feel pathetic, since his brother has a wife and kids etc. If she does happen to somehow be real, she is probably a cyber girlfriend and that's why there are no pics of her with him etc. That is doubtful though, and she most likely does not exist because her location says she lives in the same city that he does, so she is probably just a fake identity. This would explain the lack of pictures of them together, or pictures of her with the family or anything along the lines of proof.

The mom is most likely not involved in this, and probably believes "tammy/amber" actually exists, and he most likely convinced her to make a post mentioning her last night to "cheer tammy/amber" up

In conclusion, tammy/amber = yngwie and the mom probably thinks she's a real person

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Yngwie

her actual fb she has many friends and family on it.. including my mother.

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sonofsam

Why don't you just post a picture of you and her together with this thread in the background for starters?

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Why are you doing everything possible to not post proof, when you so desperately need the money for her? You already said she knows about this thread and the campaign, so why are you being so shady about it ?

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Yngwie

Here we go again. making up even more crap. wow!

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sonofsam

This deflection thing you're doing doesn't work on people who have even average intellect, let alone people who have witnessed 100's of scams on this forum

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I think it's legit bros. I found this document on one of his twin girlfriends' linked in profile.

crockett

Does anyone else find it ironic that the only "proof" he provides is FB links and then he bitches about everything being biased off FB. No Yngwie everyone isn't basing everything off FB. everyone can see your story makes zero sense and your constant excuses do not add up. Everyone sees you for what you are. Which is full of shit.

SilentKnight

Refute it by posting proof that he's wrong.

Ball's in your court, pal.

MetaMan

A) Your mom just happens to make a facebook post after it is requested viewing anything about your GF (15 years in dating she chooses to make her only post at the exact same time as this thread)
B) You do not have a single picture together
C) You have no medical proof, or any proof for that matter
D) You suddenly closed the gofundme page after people started digging and asking for proof
E) People wanted to genuinely help you if you give any ounce of proof
(multiple people from all different ages and demographics all agreeing that you have posted 0 proof who have no reason to be cooperating against you)
F) You have a history of some questionable situations as pointed out by others in this thread

sonofsam

Even worse, it wasn't at the exact same time as this thread. It only surfaced on her facebook 2 days after I mentioned that there was nothing on his moms/brothers/sisters facebook mentioning his girlfriend or anything related to him having a girlfriend at all

Prior to that, there was absolutely nothing... not even likes on pictures from the "girlfriend"

those started showing up after the 26th as well

What a coincidence.. after 15 years of you guys dating that she decides to get active on facebook now

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yes and as I said more then once she will NOT let anyone see her medical documents. This is her choice. I'm not being shady. But now you're not just calling me a liar, but my mom as well. Won't matter what I do at this point.

She IS my gf and she DOES have cancer. If this was bs I would not keep going on and on with this, but no one will believe that and accuse me of lying and making shit up. If I was to make stuff like this up I sure as hell would not expose my real name.

My name is Alain Lalonde, I'm 40 years old, I used to live in Hanmer, ON at 4664 Jacqueline st. was living with my dad and my brother. Years later I moved out. moved to 4408 Edmond st. in Hanmer, in 2003 me and my brother Andre bought my dad's house. in 2008 we sold it to my sister and her husband. They still live there. After selling the house my brother moved to toronto and I moved to Sudbury. lived in a couple different apartments, but now I'm at 715 Barrydowne rd. apt. 4. Been here for the last 5 years. My dad is Paul Lalonde and he passed away on May 12, 2014..

oh but even with me giving all of this personal info I will still be looked at as a liar, scammer or whatever. Tammy's info will remain private. She is very real and her cancer is very real. Go ahead and assassinate my character because I don't care, but don't start making my family out to be liars. I will take certain things and just brush it aside, but when my family and Tammy start getting accused of shit like this I DON"T take that lightly. This really pisses me off. Ya, you're not seeing any medical proof, but that was Tammy's decision.

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crockett

Nothing but excuses.. do you even have proof you are in a wheel chair?

sonofsam

So since your picture is public, and so is Tammy's...... Lets see a picture of you two together

Cool ?

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The wheelchair thing is probably legit, looks like a genetic thing that runs in the family on the male side

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MetaMan

What are you even talking about?

Now you try to pass it off on your family just because you have 0 proof.

No medical proof.... how about NO PROOF AT ALL. Don't you get it?

MetaMan

yes exactly, 15 years later the "mom" suddenly posts about "my sons girlfriend" perfectly timing AFTER this thread.

Where is the gofundme page Yngwie?

Doesnt want it on his facebook page... but he is so desperate... and so willing to take money from complete strangers.

L-Pink

For $25 I'll line up all the prescription medicine I have, last name covered with a sharpie, in front of this thread opened on my laptop and take a photo. Take me 3 minutes and I don't need the money.

To think someone who really needs the money won't do the same for $1,000. proves only one thing .....

edit; If he does it in the next hour I'll throw in $100 myself. Now it's up too $1,100.


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Exactly. Providing proof isn't difficult unless you're full of shit. That's an easy $1100.

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OneHungLo

This would put me halfway there that... at least we would know she is real and they are together. Pull a phone out and take a selfie together and send it to sonofsam and he can verify it.

MetaMan

Yngwie this thread will not just go away! You hit a nerve and people will not take this lightly.

RandyRandy

This could have all been avoided for $5.00. Think it all the through next time.

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sarettah

Not to pile on here as I was trying to stay out of the thread (I really really was) but I went looking to see what the deal with the flat screen TV was.

Didn't find anything about that, but did find this:

Earlier in this thread:
Over at jbm (not gonna link to it, wouldn't be prudent) thread 2325-Man-up-to-3-days-no-internet

Hmm. let's see now. 2015 (current year) - 2004 (post year) equals 11 years (I'm a computer programmer so I know how to do these things, ya know?)

11 is less than 15 (I think) and even lesser than the 15+ years you are claiming to have been with your girlfriend.

Something does not add up (or subtract down) here.

I hope nobody would bullshit this stuff but something ain't right somewhere in here.

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If this is all a bullshit I say we get a group together to break this guy's legs.

TheSquealer

Here are a few things to consider:

1) he's done this before and got called out on it quickly because his story was equally weak and flawed

2) he's begged for money before with equally weak and stupid stories

3) he's ALWAYS got a sad story to tell. he likes to let people know he's in a wheelchair and shoots for maximum pity and plays on peoples sympathies (a defining characteristic of a sociopath)

4) as soon as he was questioned on this story, he deleted the gofundme campaign. strange right? a vague, unspecific campaign to ease a dying persons final days and he suddenly deletes it and grabs the money and basically takes a 48 hr break

5) he is offered 1000.00 to provide proof of this person's existence and that she has stage 4 whatever

6) proving this is very simple. bear in mind that the volume of medical paperwork would be huge at this point, there would be a wide range of prescription meds, specific to that type of cancer, pain etc. All it takes is verification of ANY paperwork, tests, meds and so on.

7) some digging suggests this person is not being forthright about being in a relationship, much less a relationship with dying woman

8) cornered, he himself says he will post incontrovertible proof of his stories accuracy.... in which case, i would be quite happy to paypal him 250.00.

9) he goes MIA

10) his "proof" is essentially two linked facebook accounts, where his "mother" makes a vague post about "my sons girlfriends cancer" - a post which was made AFTER the fact. AFTER he said he'd provide proof

11) he then, for obvious reasons attempts to pre-empt the obvious challenges by also staring "this is the ONLY proof i will give" as he has no bills, no medical records, no tests, no pics of a helpless woman getting chemo or laying in a hospital bed or whatever.

12) now, after his little bit of ill conceived theater and stealing 400+ USD - he is, as would be expected acting indignant and offended as if he is the true victim.... and saying he can't really offer proof because his imagined girlfriend won;t let him post docs with info blurred, pics of meds etc with identifying info removed.

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OneHungLo

Maybe Yngwie is being conned here. Maybe this is some Nigerian GF scam? Yngwie have you met your GF in real life / face to face? Srs question.

crockett

Sorry, but that wouldn't make up the 11 years ago being single while now claiming 15 years they were together. Perhaps he was abducted by aliens and has missing time which can't be explained, much like the fact he has no pictures with her..

nikki99

Yngwie was a massive/active poster/webmaster back in the days, I refuse to think made a scam, I will think it's legit

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and this is why he continues to do this over and over..because he just keeps rambling on with the poor me's when ever he's questioned on anything and people get tired of arguing, then he creates doubt in a few people's minds. Just like he has done to you and now you empower him to continue on and there will be yet a next time..

Ask yourself, have you ever met him? Would you believe this kind of story from a total stranger? If no, then why would you give benefit of doubt just because someone has posted on a message board for many years (doing this same thing several times now)

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SilentKnight

When I read threads like this begging for money based on a family member with cancer, it naturally tugs at the heartstrings of nearly everyone. I recently loss my boss (and good friend) to cancer...a man I greatly respected and admired for over a decade.

My wife has severe rhumatoid arthritis that she takes incredibly expensive medication for (infusion treatments, cortisone injections, methotraxate, plaquinil...and a littany of other drugs that knock out her immune system and leave her vulnerable to infections. We're fortunate she has a great benefit package through her employer...but we still have to absorb a lot of deductible expense on the meds. Each infusion treatment is $2600 - and it would take 5 minutes to snap photos of her meds...hell, even a photo of her in the chair at the clinic getting the infusion.

Through all this pain - she still works a 40hr. week. But we've never gone to strangers on the internet and begged for money. And even if we found ourselves in that position...we'd certainly provide a ton of proof of her condition...the costs involved, etc. Her night table beside the bed looks like a pharmaceutical shelf.

Yngwie - you are blasting people on here that were willing to generously donate to your situation for no other reason than you've failed to provide a shred of proof of the authenticity of this. You have no one to blame but yourself. You can't blame people for being inherently suspicious of this whole thing - given the large number of scammers we've seen over the years on GFY. You yourself have been around long enough to have seen this same scenario before. People's suspicions are well-founded and have merit.

I urge you to do the right thing - provide proof - or I will personally be in contact with authorities in Sudbury and provide them with information gathered thus far. Fake cancer scams really piss me off on a personal level (as someone said above - they touch a nerve).

I really hope I (and the rest of us are wrong)...but it's not looking that way.

Loka

It took a while to read the entire thread from the beginning.

Yngwie, you have $1000 + $100 + $250 waiting at your disposal and that is a very big amount in itself. Plus more members who are willing to help you.

Sticking to your stand is not going to help you anyway. Just my honest suggestion and advice.

All the best!

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Generally in Canada, when you are diagnosed with a serious type of Cancer, you will get a visit from a hospital social worker in the first day or two of treatment. The social worker will explain how to get gov't money while you are getting treatments and even help you fill out the necessary forms. You dont have to apply for it, but it's available if you need it...

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