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Old 04-09-2015, 08:19 AM   #1
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Another white cop shoots another unarmed black man. WTF?

Another White SC Cop Arrested For Killing An Unarmed Black Man
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Old 04-09-2015, 08:24 AM   #2
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Curious if this guy lied on his paperwork and planted evidence as well?

Time for the good cops to start turning in the bad cops or we are going to find more dead good cops.
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This shooting happened a while ago; they only now are making the charge.
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i wish a cop would try that shit with me
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This shooting happened a while ago; they only now are making the charge.
How long can evidence like a video be held without being made public?
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How long can evidence like a video be held without being made public?
Until someone successfully files a freedom of information claim.
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dood that was an accident she had keep your mouth shut!
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Old 04-09-2015, 08:47 AM   #9
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Until someone successfully files a freedom of information claim.
You would think a tv station would have already been after it.


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dude that was an accident she had keep your mouth shut!
Holding the video until she's 18 won't work you know lol.


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lol this
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Why South Carolina indicted three white police officers in four months - The Washington Post

damn there is three indictments for SC.. and this is the state that fired the other officer for shooting the 'getting my license' guy
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You would think a tv station would have already been after it.

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I gave you the answer to a basic question but I see now that you actually want me to make
a judgment about if a video tape actually exist.

If they say they have a tape then I have no way of knowing otherwise.
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This whole cops thing with white cops and black guys is getting out of hand...
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This whole cops thing with white cops and black guys is getting out of hand...
Yeah this stuff just started a few months ago.

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I gave you the answer to a basic question but I see now that you actually want me to make
a judgment about if a video tape actually exist.

If they say they have a tape then I have no way of knowing otherwise.
No, my curiosity is based on the assumption the longer evidence sits the greater chance it has of being lost, swept under the rug, altered, etc.


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No, my curiosity is based on the assumption the longer evidence sits the greater chance it has of being lost, swept under the rug, altered, etc.


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can one file a freedom of information claim on something being used as evidence in a trial?
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The prosecutor has to OK the release since it's their evidence still.
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damn there is three indictments for SC.. and this is the state that fired the other officer for shooting the 'getting my license' guy
The "getting my license" cop was also arrested and charged with assault for the shooting.

This is a reflection of a state taking action not of a state with more bad shootings.
There are more shootings other places, SC is just the only place doing something about it.
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Would you run the other direction?
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ahh ok, thanks

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The "getting my license" cop was also arrested and charged with assault for the shooting.

This is a reflection of a state taking action not of a state with more bad shootings.
There are more shootings other places, SC is just the only place doing something about it.
yea agreed.. it's also weird these indictments for SC happened the same day the NY/Ferguson indictments were turned down

edit: sorry, same day for NY, week later for Ferguson
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Just sick man but really bothers me the most, is the news how they have to say white cop kills black man! WHY not police officer or cop kills unarmed man?
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Just sick man but really bothers me the most, is the news how they have to say white cop kills black man! WHY not police officer or cop kills unarmed man?
No reason except to stir tensions.
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Just sick man but really bothers me the most, is the news how they have to say white cop kills black man! WHY not police officer or cop kills unarmed man?
one of the original articles states exactly this:

Officer kills man through car door in his driveway - Yahoo News

it references the officers colour within the article
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ahh ok, thanks



yea agreed.. it's also weird these indictments for SC happened the same day the NY/Ferguson indictments were turned down

edit: sorry, same day for NY, week later for Ferguson
No it's not weird to wake up and see that shit is about to hit the fan and do something about it.

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Just sick man but really bothers me the most, is the news how they have to say white cop kills black man! WHY not police officer or cop kills unarmed man?
They do that because they are not in denial of the role race plays in these shootings.

Just post all the cop shooting videos that prove otherwise.
Until then you are just indulging in hypothetical situations and devoid of reality.
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Video of Walter Scott Killing Is but a Glimpse of Police Misconduct | Cato Institute



Video of Walter Scott Killing Is but a Glimpse of Police Misconduct
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A generation ago, when someone complained of police misconduct, we would learn that a police spokesperson denied the accusation and that was that. Because we were not there and did not know those involved, it was impossible to draw any conclusions. There was also an understandable reluctance to believe that the local department would spread falsehoods. Now more and more incidents are captured in cellphone videos, and that means citizens can judge for themselves whether the police broke the law. Smartphones are providing us with a glimpse of the widespread abuse that policymakers have been ignoring for years and changing the world of American policing.

On Saturday, April 4, Walter Scott was shot and killed by police officer Michael Slager in North Charleston, S.C. By Tuesday, local authorities had charged Slager with murder. That?s no wonder. Most of the episode was captured on a cellphone video that offers damning evidence of criminal conduct.

The first thing to note is that Scott was about 20 feet from Slager and was running away, not toward him. To elude capture, lots of criminals run from the police. However, the Supreme Court has ruled that cops can only use deadly force against a fleeing suspect if that person poses a serious danger to the police or others. So, for example, if a criminal shoots at schoolchildren and then turns and runs in another direction, the police would be justified in firing their weapons. But a cop breaks the law if he shoots out of anger or frustration simply because his quarry is about to get away. And that?s what seems to have happened with Slager.

The video exposes additional incriminating evidence from after the shooting. After Scott falls to the ground, we see Slager tampering with evidence at the scene. It looks like Slager places his Taser close to Scott?s body. And, according to news reports, Slager wrote down that he performed CPR on the wounded Scott. The video clearly contradicts that claim.

Prosecutors typically give the benefit of any doubt to the police force. In this case the authorities must have realized that Slager lost all credibility with those dishonest actions.

To a certain extent, the authorities in South Carolina deserve praise for how they handled this incident. They disclosed the identity of the officer and his disciplinary record. They turned the case over to an independent agency to avoid a conflict of interest, and those investigators followed the evidence. Many people will say that the system ?worked.? Did it?

Consider the role of happenstance in this case. A bystander with a smartphone ? and the willingness to use it ? happened to be on the scene to record it. There are very few instances in which video evidence is available. When it?s not, then all too often there is no serious scrutiny.

Vincent Bugliosi, the legendary Los Angeles prosecutor who put Charles Manson away, once admitted that most district attorneys have a double standard when it comes to filing criminal complaints against the police. Bugliosi said the unit responsible for investigating officer-involved shootings reviewed hundreds of cases during the 1980s and did not find a single criminal violation. That pattern has held over time. Between 2001 and 2005, there were more than 400 officer-involved shootings reviewed by Los Angeles Dist. Atty. Steve Cooley. No criminal charges were filed.

In Milwaukee, prosecutors refer officer-involved shootings to an inquest jury, which can recommend or decline criminal charges. In 25 years, there has never been a recommendation for charges.

Since Ferguson, it has been repeatedly noted that we do not even have reliable data on the number of people killed by police each year. What we do know is that when the Department of Justice is called in to scrutinize police practices, the findings are deeply disturbing.

In 2011, the feds investigated the practices of the New Orleans Police Department. The findings were scandalous. According to the report, the local commanders? mishandling of police shooting investigations was ?so blatant and egregious that it appeared intentional in some respects.? Last year, the Department of Justice reviewed 20 officer-involved shootings resulting in fatalities in Albuquerque from 2009 to 2012 and concluded that most of those killings were illegal.

Policing in the United States is decentralized among thousands of cities and counties ? so professional and ethical standards will vary. Still, it seems safe to say that too many officer-involved shootings receive little scrutiny. What occurred in South Carolina was not an anomaly, it just happened to be caught on video.










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This is the result of giving cops too much power.

When I was younger...the cops couldn't do half the shit they can now. They couldn't search your car, they couldn't search your wife's purse, they actually treated people with respect, and I even argued with many of them back in the 1980's.
I sure wouldn't argue with them now.

You even so much as ask a question and they will tell you to shut up while they treat you like a dog. You make one wrong move and they might "feel threatened" and empty the damn clip in you.

I've said it before and I'll say it again...the "War On Drugs" and "Terrorism" has led to the cops getting too much power in the name of "protecting" us.

You give any human being the power to do anything he wants to you...and you are powerless to stop him or even question him...then it's just human nature that that power will be abused.
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Yep Robbie. The safest person is a person who is not allowed any freedom in which they might injure themselves. Beware of someone doing things to keep you safe. Fight for your rights.

There are some people who refuse to roll down their windows for police at random seat belt checks or random DWI checkpoints. Instead they hold up a sign saying they want a lawyer present. Someone had posted that link a while back. It's legal, but as some would point out possibly provocative.
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There are some people who refuse to roll down their windows for police at random seat belt checks or random DWI checkpoints. Instead they hold up a sign saying they want a lawyer present. Someone had posted that link a while back. It's legal, but as some would point out possibly provocative.
It was a Florida lawyer who started that.
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It was a Florida lawyer who started that.
Problem is...the cops don't know the law or bother to even follow it.

I'd be afraid to try that because you're probably going to end up toting an ass beating and a night in jail.
That's the power they have.

Yeah, you might "win" in court later on...but at that precise moment, in the middle of the night at a checkpoint...those cops are acting like they own your ass. And it's downright dangerous to piss them off in any way.

It's not SUPPOSED to be like that. But that's the world we are currently living in.

EDIT: Speaking of rolling down the window. My youngest brother got pulled over a couple of months ago down in Florida. The electric window on the drivers side of the car he was in was broken.
The cop told him to roll the window down. He explained that he couldn't because it was broken, but he could open the door.

The cop stepped back and told him to NOT open the door but to roll the window down as he was told to. When my brother said the window was broken...the cop broke the window with his flashlight!
Arrested my brother and impounded the car.

My brother got out the next day and not only had to pay to get his car out...but then had to pay to replace the window. It was a mess with shards of glass all in the car.

He went to court a couple of weeks ago and "won" by having the "Charges" against him dropped.

That's the kind of bullshit that goes on these days.
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Time for the good cops to start turning in the bad cops or we are going to find more dead good cops.
The "brotherhood" is why a lot of people do not trust cops now.

There are plenty of good cops, but they know what happens if they do not fall in line and protect the bad ones. Something as simple as your career not advancing, to something more severe. It's fucked up.
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...the "War On Drugs" and "Terrorism" has led to the cops getting too much power in the name of "protecting" us.
Yep.

The war on drugs is what allowed the police to militarize against the citizens.
The war on terror was the icing on the cake for the '"regime of control".
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