Apple building a 40 Megawatt Solar Farm in China

[2MuchMark]

Apple building a 40 Megawatt Solar Farm in China
& Turbines in Oregon
& Planting trees

Apple (Canada) - Environment

Awesome.

[dyna mo]

it looks like all those international environmental law violations apple has been slapped with over the years are finally/maybe sinking in.

eh.

[EddyTheDog]

Solar in Chinese means 'kids on treadmills'...

[Choopa Phil]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Solar in Chinese means 'kids on treadmills'...

Chinese kids on treadmills building iphones.

[Robbie]

Too bad they didn't build one out here in the miles and miles of empty desert in Nevada.

Of course the Feds own over 80% of all the land here in Nevada So maybe it's easier to work with the communist govt. in China than it is to wade through the bureaucracy and corruption in Washington D.C.

[mineistaken]

wow, amazing amazing

[pimpmaster9000]

man pollution in china is crazy...if one place in the world needs clean power its china...they need clean everything that place is out of control with pollution...

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Too bad they didn't build one out here in the miles and miles of empty desert in Nevada.

Of course the Feds own over 80% of all the land here in Nevada So maybe it's easier to work with the communist govt. in China than it is to wade through the bureaucracy and corruption in Washington D.C.

Their factories are in China. Highly unlikely they even thought of Nevada.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it looks like all those international environmental law violations apple has been slapped with over the years are finally/maybe sinking in.

eh.

BZZZHT.

Wrong.

Apple (Canada) - Environment - Our Progress

but nice try.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by **********

BZZZHT.

Wrong.

Apple (Canada) - Environment - Our Progress

but nice try.

right, an apple press/public relations web page is certainly not biased.

Apple Faces Pollution Charges - Again

not that you're going to stop drinking the kool-aid libtards tell you to drink.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Sly

Their factories are in China. Highly unlikely they even thought of Nevada.

So will they be providing energy to their (and aren't those plants not apple's, but just subcontractors) plants?

[MrBottomTooth]

Originally Posted by **********

BZZZHT.

Wrong.

Apple (Canada) - Environment - Our Progress

but nice try.

That is their operations in the US. Their operations and suppliers in other countries are run completely differently.

DailyTech - Apple?s Chinese Suppliers in Trouble for Environmental Pollution

China Scrutinizes 2 Apple Suppliers in Pollution Probe - WSJ

Apple wakes up to Chinese pollution concerns | Environment | The Guardian

[Sly]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

So will they be providing energy to their (and aren't those plants not apple's, but just subcontractors) plants?

Perhaps, but evidenced by other links in this thread, they have a reputation issue with pollution in China and this looks awfully good. Mark is being blinded by his love for Apple.

I have an iPhone and iMac. Love them both, but Apple doesn't shit angels.

[dyna mo]

Apple Ranks Last for Environmental Response · Environmental Management & Sustainable Development News

[dyna mo]

this thread needs a suicide net for **********, like the ones at the apple factory

[mineistaken]

On related note - don't apple have cash in the bank? If so - they should build solar plants because it is money in the bank right now, very good profits in certain countries.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Sly

Mark is being blinded by his love for Apple.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

right, an apple press/public relations web page is certainly not biased.

Apple Faces Pollution Charges - Again

not that you're going to stop drinking the kool-aid libtards tell you to drink.

You didn't read the document you linked to.

The company that polluted is an Apple Supplier named Catcher Sujian. 4 Months later, as the article says, Apple slammed them for it.

Your article also says "Catcher?s Suqian factory, in addition to producing components for Apple, contracts with Dell, Hewlett-Packard (HP), Lenovo, Sony, HTC, Motorola and other well-known international brands, CLW and Green America say."

Once again, you prove yourself to be lazy. Time for another nap.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Sly

Their factories are in China. Highly unlikely they even thought of Nevada.

Some are in China.

Apple's Macs are designed in California, Made in Texas.
Designed in California, made in America: Apple to build new Macs in Texas | Digital Trends

Originally Posted by Sly

Perhaps, but evidenced by other links in this thread, they have a reputation issue with pollution in China and this looks awfully good. Mark is being blinded by his love for Apple.

I have an iPhone and iMac. Love them both, but Apple doesn't shit angels.

Perhaps. I have an iPhone and several Macs. Considering how many products Apple sells though, its cool to see them doing what they are doing (recycling, green energy, less poisons in their materials, etc). It's not perfect but its pretty good to me. This is one of the reasons why I will at least consider another Mac the next time I'm in the market for a new computer.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

this thread needs a suicide net for **********, like the ones at the apple factory

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by **********

You didn't read the document you linked to.

The company that polluted is an Apple Supplier named Catcher Sujian. 4 Months later, as the article says, Apple slammed them for it.

Your article also says "Catcher?s Suqian factory, in addition to producing components for Apple, contracts with Dell, Hewlett-Packard (HP), Lenovo, Sony, HTC, Motorola and other well-known international brands, CLW and Green America say."

Once again, you prove yourself to be lazy. Time for another nap.

No I did read the document. As per my op here , apple finally did something about it, whatever slamming means. Keep not being able to see bigger picture concepts.

[MrBottomTooth]

Originally Posted by **********

Why bring sleazydream into this? On the bright side, it looks like he's lost weight.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Too bad they didn't build one out here in the miles and miles of empty desert in Nevada.

Of course the Feds own over 80% of all the land here in Nevada So maybe it's easier to work with the communist govt. in China than it is to wade through the bureaucracy and corruption in Washington D.C.

There is a huge solar plant just inside the Nevada border when you drive from SoCal up to Vegas. You can see it from the freeway.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by **********

BZZZHT.

Wrong.

Apple (Canada) - Environment - Our Progress

but nice try.

Oh they are such philantropists
After the factory workers leaped to their deaths & having kids work 14 hours a day on shit iphones the PR division knows to keep on blinding the hipsters. Great tactic

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

this thread needs a suicide net for **********, like the ones at the apple factory

Wow!

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Rochard

There is a huge solar plant just inside the Nevada border when you drive from SoCal up to Vegas. You can see it from the freeway.

You can see it from the aeroplane as well,. freaky

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Rochard

There is a huge solar plant just inside the Nevada border when you drive from SoCal up to Vegas. You can see it from the freeway.

update-
it's right inside the california border and it's the largest mother fucker of its kind on the planet, 365 megawatts or something like that, nevada doesn't get any of that power either.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

update-
it's right inside the california border and it's the largest mother fucker of its kind on the planet, 365 megawatts or something like that, nevada doesn't get any of that power either.

Cool.

Now if we could just do one in the desert in Nevada...oh snap, we can't. The Feds own all the land.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Cool.

Now if we could just do one in the desert in Nevada...oh snap, we can't. The Feds own all the land.

the government's saving that land in case someone wants to walk around back there.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Solar in Chinese means 'kids on treadmills'...

DUDE! You have just solved the fat problem and the unemployment/welfare problem in the US.. Not to mention green energy...

We need to wire tread mills up to the power grid and let people work for their welfare, school education and have a fat ass tax for over weight people..unemployment ect..ect..


Brb gonna go talk to Ted about this.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Cool.

Now if we could just do one in the desert in Nevada...oh snap, we can't. The Feds own all the land.

The Fed owns plenty of land that is leased by private companies for business purposes. Fed ownership of the vast Nevada desert is not preventing any private company from working out an agreement that would allow them to create a solar farm.

Fact: More than half the federal land leased for energy drilling is unexplored. Energy firms say it wouldn?t be profitable enough.
Who Owns The West? Oil & Gas Leases in America's West

This article points out that using federal land for private use is actually significantly cheaper than if it were private: Grazing on federal land under threat because of drought - LA Times

If public land is not available, ranchers could find private property to graze their animals, paying as much as 16 times more than on federal ground.

[Robbie]

Sounds nice Sly...but there has to be a reason they only built on the California side of the desert and NOT on the Fed owned Nevada land.

Usually it's the exact opposite. Businesses don't want to deal with the hassle of the State Of California and their high taxes and fees for everything so they set up shop in Nevada (no corporate tax, costs less for everything here).

But (as I said about China and Apple), it must be easier doing business with California than it is to do business with the Feds.
I'm sure that there is probably years and years of red tape and paperwork, etc.

You would think that since the entire Democrat Party is convinced of manmade global warming...that they would not only "allow" solar to be built here...but would DEMAND it and fund it from the govt.

But for some reason...that ain't happening yet.

Can't figure that one out. I thought that Global Warming was the biggest disaster in the history of mankind. You would think they would do SOMETHING...oh, that's right: They're making money with "carbon credits". My bad.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

No I did read the document. As per my op here , apple finally did something about it, whatever slamming means. Keep not being able to see bigger picture concepts.

That's not at all what you said or implied, big fellah. You said

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it looks like all those international environmental law violations apple has been slapped with over the years are finally/maybe sinking in.

eh.

You said "Finally" as if Apple is only taking responsibility now. You said "Maybe" as if to imply that maybe they aren't doing anything. You said "eh" as if it doesn't make a difference. From this I can take that you can't admit when you're wrong, even to yourself. Lazy.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Apple Ranks Last for Environmental Response · Environmental Management & Sustainable Development News

You had to go dig up an article thats been out of date for 4 years to reaffirm your beliefs? Weak. And lazy.

Originally Posted by mineistaken

On related note - don't apple have cash in the bank? If so - they should build solar plants because it is money in the bank right now, very good profits in certain countries.

Bingo! While their site says they're doing it for themselves, I'm positive they can make a ton of money with this too. China's starving for electricity. Maybe soon solar will be cheaper than coal in China.

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

Why bring sleazydream into this? On the bright side, it looks like he's lost weight.

Originally Posted by Robbie

Sounds nice Sly...but there has to be a reason they only built on the California side of the desert and NOT on the Fed owned Nevada land.

I'm no expert, but I'm guessing that the States governors and differences in state taxes and incentives, state populations, and state markets have something to do with it.

Originally Posted by Robbie

You would think that since the entire Democrat Party is convinced of manmade global warming...that they would not only "allow" solar to be built here...but would DEMAND it and fund it from the govt.

Originally Posted by Robbie

You would think that since the entire Democrat Party is convinced of manmade global warming...that they would not only "allow" solar to be built here...but would DEMAND it and fund it from the govt.

But for some reason...that ain't happening yet.

Can't figure that one out. I thought that Global Warming was the biggest disaster in the history of mankind. You would think they would do SOMETHING...oh, that's right: They're making money with "carbon credits". My bad.

Nope! Not the reason. Here's whats going on:

Advocates accuse state, NV Energy of anti-solar bias | Las Vegas Review-Journal

Nevada Republican Governor Brian Sandoval isn't big on Solar.

[Robbie]

Mark, it's far cheaper to do business in Nevada.

Not sure if the Gov. is "against" solar. But NV Energy (owned by good old Warren Buffet) sure is.

Also not sure if the Gov. would have ANY say-so in federal land use. That's been a point of contention here with the Feds in case you didn't notice the headlines last year.

Having said that...the biggest crook in all of Nevada (though he actually lives in Washington D.C. at The Carlton Ritz Hotel), Sen. Harry Reid always gets what he wants for Nevada (and his rich buddies).
And if Warren Buffet says "no" and Harry Reid says "no"...there isn't a damn thing the Governor of Nevada can do about it since it is FEDERAL land.

[dyna mo]

so according to **********, apple's gone from being big violator of human rights and international environmental laws to a corp that squirts out unicorns and rainbows while making iphone 6.



and i included the eh because you're a canaduhian.

eh