The Porn Nerd

Does anyone have any experience selling e-books? Not writing them per se but as an affiliate. Would be interesting to setup a site where all you sold were e-books.

Anyone?

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armysmoke

There are lots of people making money selling ebook and selling them as affiliates. Check out warriorforum.com

Adraco

I sold ebooks on Digital Point before. It was generally just a pdf file of 1-3 pages. It was some information on how to this or how to that. People bought quite a bit, as long as I kept prices at $4.95-$19.95.

Still amazed that people paid that just for some information. But most were really happy and bought again when I did new relises. Paypal payment works great for those!

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crockett

I think anyone smart has moved on to selling on Amazon and not so much run of the mill old school ebooks.

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Yea, there is a big market for those.
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I buy "ebooks" quite a bit. If I can spend $5 and get one halfway decent idea, it was 500 worthy pennies.

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The Porn Nerd

Interesting, thanks all!!

I'm thinking of re-launching my old Blog The Daily Spank and don't want to load it up with porn links. LOL But I also don't want to rant for free so ebooks might be the way to go.

Selling via Amazon Crockett? I know there are people who make a living doing this but that's a whole different business model, yes? As in, you gotta basically lick Amazon's bung hole for 2%? LOL

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ITraffic

amazon affiliates for books is a joke. find another angle.

kane

It depends on what you do. If you are just an Amazon affiliate you only get a small percentage of the price of the item as a commission. However, if you write your own ebooks you can sell them on Amazon and make a hell of a lot more.

I have a string of erotic stories I will be starting to sell on Amazon in the near future. It will be interesting to see how they do.

crockett

This.. Not being an affiliate but rather selling your books there.. They have the biggest customer base online to sell books to.. Pick a popular topic and gain a following. Don't write a novel.. Write quick easy stuff and churn it out.

ITraffic

or outsource the writing to local students or broke artists, writers and academics.

Barefootsies

Write ebook(s).

Develop newsletter via targeted marketing leads.

Send email on regular basis sending to nice landing page.

Cha-ching.

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Tasty1

I know a few people who sell kindle books. A lot of times they hire people from India and give them the concept they work out further Mostly books about diet (paleo etcetra). Also hire people for the logo's and make it kindle ready. Or a book like "50 different smoothies'. You can make money if you target at the righ audience. There are several kindle facebook groups for more info.

In Holland you also have an affiliate program where you can publish your books and where affiliates can promote them.

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Drake

Good way to look at it.

Bladewire

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adamneve

i know someone that "writes" books about the bible(sells on amazon). He has a few writers from India(non know about hte other) ,each gets a different topic & once all done he combines it into one book.
then "wrap" it up nicely and he is making a killing

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Bladewire

I would love to have a couple good people from India on my team. They are a good country and hard working people. Not so cheap anymore, but you get good quality work from them from what I hear. I'd give them a shot any day

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AmeliaG

Kinda chump change, compared to other affiliate options and, in my experience (and documented by many others all over the net), ClickBank are terrible payers.

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aka123

But those are still e-books, just sold in Amazon. But great idea anyhow. I have thought of writing e-books, maybe I write some and try that Amazon stuff.

That e-mail list thing is also great; I have been selling and buying stuff like that. The buying part has been e-books. I suppose Amazon doesn't mind about me directing traffic to own book page at there? If I combine the easiness of Amazon and the benefits of email marketing.

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Barefootsies

Depends on how you do the ebooks and if you find one that strikes a cord. If you can send out millions of emails per day, you can turn a decent dollar as long as it's converting. You have a number of ways to get many different mailers sending it, then you can bank nicely.

Yes, Clickbank is difficult to deal with compared to many other options. They do seem to be one of the better networks for ebooks in mainstream, but the payments issue (especially for email based) is tricky. I would only push them if their stuff seriously converted like hotcakes. I am not waiting net30 or net90 to get paid.

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As long as they allow email marketing, you should be good. Main issue there is just making sure you have full opt-in info and are CAN-SPAM compliant.

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The Porn Nerd

Thanks for all the great advice!
Being a natural writer and not doing anything with writing or e-books is starting to annoy me. LOL

I will try some of the strategies over the Summer and report back in the Fall and see how it goes.

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johnnyloadproductions

Being a journalist, what will you write about?

The Porn Nerd

Actually several topics, thanks for asking. LOL

Entrepeneurship (which I hope I spelled right....)
Grammar (joking)
Music
Drugs
Travel
Sex

But not in that order....

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johnnyloadproductions

Considering your previous career it's just a matter of rehashing from memory, shouldn't be too hard.

The Porn Nerd

Indeed! And since most of the rock stars I interviewed are either too old to remember or dead I can basically say whatever I want about The Black Crowes or David Bowie. LOL

...actually I always wanted to write a Porn Nerd 'How To' ebook. You know, how I went from a zero to a hero and fucked all these girls. I mean, how DID I do it? LOL

Kind of like this:

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But seriously, a clever 'How To Date Online' or 'How To Navigate Online Profiles' for dating sites might be fun. Of course, there's probably a million ebooks on every single subject but I never let shit like that stop me.

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johnnyloadproductions

I demand review copies!

johnnyloadproductions

Anyway, I suggest you write about going from zero to hero and allude to your more mature age. There are plenty of people who are older who still have strong desires to make something of themselves financially or who had the rug pulled out from under them.

Market hard to those people.

The Porn Nerd

Actually a brilliant idea. PLUS they are the only fuckers with money anymore. LOL

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aka123

Okay; I logged into that Amazon book publishing stuff with my existing affiliate account. It seems that they take quite much. Some fucking delivery fees and such. For smaller purchases you may get just under half from the price and might not even get that. Another bummer is that there seems to be different payout limits for every fucking single amazon marketplace; there was 10 marketplaces or something like that. You soon end up having some 99,99 rupias or whatever in Indian market, 1/16 camel in Somalia, and the only markets you get actually money out are the biggest markets, like US and eurozone.

Sounds just like being affiliate, but you have to write the fucking books. Running solo doesn't seem to be so bad option anymore. Please tell me that the volumes from Amazon makes up all that shit? Especially if you already have company in place and running.

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Tasty1

The people i know aim at Kindle ebooks at amazon. They promote it by givining it away for free (or big discount) the first week to get reviews. And people in the facebook groups review each others books. So you can imagine the first reviews are Always good There are more tricks to get on the front page, what is discussed in those groups. You would be surprised how the books that are the easiest to write make the most money. Like "100 ways to congratulate somebody" or more of those 1 dollar books.

'Real' writers in Holland say there is less and less to earn. I think that could be right, i see a big rise of Dutch ebooks on torrent sites.

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The Porn Nerd

Interesting! I wonder if that is just in Dutch or ebooks in English written in Holland by Nederlanders who speak English?

And who knew there were 100 ways to congratulate someone? LOL I only know of 38 ways!

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Panty Snatcher

i think ebooks are a race to the bottom

Everyone is trying to sell cheaper than the guy next door.

There is a gazillion books @ .99 and they "could" go for more

Tasty1

Most aiming at English books. Amazon just started in Holland a few months ago and aren't very popular yet. You also have paypro.nl where people can sell their dutch ebooks and affiliates can promote them.

Most people start with the book asking .99 sent to get reviews and sales so they end up higher in the list. And most books that are written in india have a production cost of 500 - 1500 USD depending on how much you outsource.

I was involved in publishing a book in Holland several years ago. The (paper) book in the bookstore costed 15 euro and the writer only get 1,50 / 2,50 euro for it. I had luck, the Publisher thought we would sell max 5000. So i said than let our % low for the first 5000 and we get an extra % when we sell more as 5000. There where more than 60.000 sold and still counting.... So a 3 euro ebook can give you more profit than the traditional sales in bookstores. I must look up what % amazon wants.

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The Porn Nerd

Yeah but that's what everybody told me about the Adult Biz when I started in '08. LOL


Old school publishing is the race to the bottom, I think. I wonder how strong the DMCA laws (or whatever) would be if you started selling ebooks without having written them.....not advocating this, of course, just wondering out loud....LOL

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aka123

Book's quality depends heavily on the author/ authors. How good can some Indian sourced book be?

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kane

There also seems to be a magic number for what people will pay for certain books. I was reading an article a little while back where someone selling short stories on Amazon said that if they priced them at .99 cents they got good sales. If they raised the price to $1.49 the sales went down a tiny amount, but the extra money more than made up for it. However, when he put the price at $1.99 the sales dropped dramatically so he went back to the slightly lower price.

aka123

Don't ask about those formulas. But if you know the price elasticity, you can calculate the optimum price what brings the most profit.

Price elasticity of demand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Tasty1

Who cares if you sell bad books, as long as they are selling
And with a nice concept you can make money.
There are 1001 different sort of books, you don't have to write a thriller.
Get recipes from internet and start selling cook books.

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Tasty1

Ps, in Holland a second hand ebook website started. First the Judge said it was forbidden. But the higher Judge said it wasn't forbidden. And now a Judge site it isn't forbidden, but you must make sure the ebooks aren't illegal. That has to do with the Usedsoft-arrest.

This could be interesting. A European Judge said you can resell second hand software, legally so why not second hand ebooks... The site that is doing this is Tom Kabinet You can find reactions from lawyers on the internet. But i think most reactions are in Dutch.

Don't pin me down on the details. Now it is forbidden cause they must have extra checks to make sure they aren't selling illegal ebooks but only ebooks that people realy bought themselves and delete from their computer once it is sold.

Discussion by a well know internet advisor is here:
Tom Kabinet in hoger beroep alsnog verboden - Ius Mentis

The site have to decide if they want to go further proceeding. This all hapening in january 2015 and still no real outcome.

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