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babeterminal · 05-07-2015, 06:57 PM

I'm contacting you in an effort to take down a page I found on your website with my information but it's not me. The page is on xxxxxxx.com under the name "AVIA" from FTV site. The pictures are not of me, the links are to my business website and social media links. The photos and images are actually of my sister (we're twins) and she's been going through some emotional issues which she is addressing in therapy. She did some shoots for a site called FTV a few years ago, (she just told me about) and then posed as me in the paperwork and some comments. It's important to me for this page to be removed from your site because I am a model and I am an aspiring actress and it hurts my career if any google searches result in finding erotic photos of my sister, who looks like me. I'm doing everything I can to clear this up. I would greatly appreciate if you would please remove any of the pages on xxxxxxxx.com of "AVIA".

Thank you so much for your time and consideration, I greatly appreciate it!
Kara Gibson

Mr Pheer · 05-07-2015, 07:05 PM

Doesnt look like a DMCA request to me

SplatterMaster · 05-07-2015, 07:17 PM

Takedown should come from copyright holder. "Kara" should contact FTV and have them send takedown notices. Doubt that will happen since FTV still has her stuff up Avia on FTVGirls.com Released Jun 20, 2014!

pantyfreek · 05-07-2015, 07:20 PM

We have had requests to remove images in the past. What I tell them is they have to reimburse money paid for the shoot, time it took to post the images or video, time to remove them AND loss of future earnings. Original cost + $300 + $300 + $1200

Sounds like she has remorse for posing. The twin story sounds quite odd.

Jim_Gunn · 05-07-2015, 07:20 PM

I give her an A for creativity with that story.

PaperstreetWinston · 05-07-2015, 07:31 PM

imagine the fight those two mustve had when FTV was brought up

L-Pink · 05-07-2015, 07:31 PM

"twin"

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babeterminal · 05-07-2015, 07:35 PM

yeah the twin thing gets me i checked her imdb page and i think most people with a twin gets a mention, i suppose fucking bananas and sticking dildos up ya ass is a bit of a knock back

Bladewire · 05-07-2015, 07:37 PM

SplatterMaster is 100% correct.

Just tell her how to contact FTV to get what she wants, it's the right thing to do and it will get her off your back.

Her Vine seems to show her & her twin.

MiamiBoyz · 05-07-2015, 08:06 PM

I am sure that the only twin she has is her other personality when she's off her meds.

Put her on your site's home page.

TisMe · 05-07-2015, 08:36 PM

Rogue twin?

VikingMan · 05-07-2015, 09:39 PM

her pussy and ass look like they belong on a 50 year old woman

Bladewire · 05-07-2015, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by VikingMan

her pussy and ass look like they belong on a 50 year old woman

Post your dick and as stud. No judgements. Or just one of the 2. Real guys are hot, not the model perfect type.

Far-L · 05-07-2015, 10:14 PM

Well, once you get her to realize that lying to get her content removed is not the way to go about it you should explain all the costs associated with buying that content and suggest you are open to a buy out. Explain that even if you take down the content wherever you have posted it that there is no guarantee that it won't be renamed, pirated, etc and nearly impossible to remove completely. However, once she has paid for whatever you are out or whatever terms you agree to that she can freely dmca there on since in essence she would be buying back her rights (if in fact you are the original producer and own the rights).

Be polite and courteous and respectful that she is pained by the content being up but address the professional concerns/obligations and try to help her see the issues from your perspective. She doesn't want to ruin her life and you don't want to be taken advantage of. It is a crappy situation for everyone but can be dealt with in mutually acceptable fashion.

Manfap · 05-08-2015, 12:40 AM

Ask for proof, then inform her that you will take down the content and then prosecute her twin.

Jel · 05-08-2015, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Well, once you get her to realize that lying to get her content removed is not the way to go about it you should explain all the costs associated with buying that content and suggest you are open to a buy out. Explain that even if you take down the content wherever you have posted it that there is no guarantee that it won't be renamed, pirated, etc and nearly impossible to remove completely. However, once she has paid for whatever you are out or whatever terms you agree to that she can freely dmca there on since in essence she would be buying back her rights (if in fact you are the original producer and own the rights).

Be polite and courteous and respectful that she is pained by the content being up but address the professional concerns/obligations and try to help her see the issues from your perspective. She doesn't want to ruin her life and you don't want to be taken advantage of. It is a crappy situation for everyone but can be dealt with in mutually acceptable fashion.

TheDA · 05-08-2015, 02:26 AM

Social media does seem to show that she is a twin but I'm not buying her "it was actually my sister that did the shoot story"

ownedbox · 05-08-2015, 02:29 AM

how much does she need for this "buying back her rights"?

TheDA · 05-08-2015, 02:30 AM

I can see the Streisand Effect going into action here

babeterminal · 05-08-2015, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

I can see the Streisand Effect going into action here

i had to look that up
Streisand effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

any links going to where there is twins

AmeliaG · 05-08-2015, 03:21 AM

Let your sponsor FTV know they may have a problem.

If it were me, I'd certainly count in her favor that she asked nicely.

Why are you linking adult affiliate content to her real life pages or is that not what is happening?

babeterminal · 05-08-2015, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Let your sponsor FTV know they may have a problem.

If it were me, I'd certainly count in her favor that she asked nicely.

Why are you linking adult affiliate content to her real life pages or is that not what is happening?

no i have not linked to her website or twitter if it were a proper dmca i would of contacted ftv but the story is a bit much to believe no matter how nice they put it, i get a few of these a week but its ones like this i like to see what others would do

OneHungLo · 05-08-2015, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by pantyfreek

We have had requests to remove images in the past. What I tell them is they have to reimburse money paid for the shoot, time it took to post the images or video, time to remove them AND loss of future earnings. Original cost + $300 + $300 + $1200

Sounds like she has remorse for posing. The twin story sounds quite odd.

According to my attorney, you're bordering on extortion. Do not do this. Either remove it, or don't.

babeterminal · 05-08-2015, 03:40 AM

i also think she tried ftv first off and they told her where to go

babeterminal · 05-08-2015, 03:42 AM

just to say i have one non nude image and i am linked only to ftv galleries

babeterminal · 05-08-2015, 03:44 AM

coming back through the market today the guy always shouts "have a look get ya banana their for a pound" every time i hear that now i will be thinking of this

AmeliaG · 05-08-2015, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by babeterminal

just to say i have one non nude image and i am linked only to ftv galleries

She sent you that whole weird story over just a gallery link from a non-nude pic?

Let me revise my answer to, no, I would not take that down. I would let FTV know she was trying to destroy their traffic, however, because I'd want a SpookyCash affiliate to let me know if they got an email like that.

trevesty · 05-08-2015, 07:32 AM

Cam models and other models with over zealous "managers"(aka, their fuck buddy in college) do crap like this all the time.

If it's not a properly formatted DMCA, you don't legally have to do anything. If you want to remove it, ok. If you don't, ok.

Relentless · 05-08-2015, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Well, once you get her to realize that lying to get her content removed is not the way to go about it you should explain all the costs associated with buying that content and suggest you are open to a buy out. Explain that even if you take down the content wherever you have posted it that there is no guarantee that it won't be renamed, pirated, etc and nearly impossible to remove completely. However, once she has paid for whatever you are out or whatever terms you agree to that she can freely dmca there on since in essence she would be buying back her rights (if in fact you are the original producer and own the rights).

Be polite and courteous and respectful that she is pained by the content being up but address the professional concerns/obligations and try to help her see the issues from your perspective. She doesn't want to ruin her life and you don't want to be taken advantage of. It is a crappy situation for everyone but can be dealt with in mutually acceptable fashion.

This.

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TheSquealer · 05-08-2015, 08:20 AM

Content is property that has value. It should be treated as any other property. If you buy a car and the seller comes to you two years later saying "hey man, I want my car back..." You'd obviously say "fine, you can buy it back for xxxxx". Why treat photos and videos other than what they are?

My view is this.... I worked with tons of models. It's normal human behavior to want money today without thinking about future consequences. That is a behavior that producers exploit. No sane person could possibly think that it's unreasonable for an 18 year old to regret we decision in a few years. It's normal for someone to regret their decisions, particularly when most are making these decisions at a young age. Everyone should have the right to buy the content back based on some reasonable valuation formula that takes into account not only the pescitoom cost but its value to the business (ie when a single model is inordinately popular and also driving sales, used to promote the site etc etc).

Treat your business like a business. That should be something filed under "no shit" but it seems to me that almost no one in this industry gets that.

AND DO NOT follow far-L's advice and admit that you are aware you are causing emotional distress... that's grounds for a lawsuit. She doesn't need to understand your perspective.... she won't and she can't: she's not you, she's not running your business... she's someone who is in.a panic likely because someone saw her and recognized her,... It's unrealistic to think she's going to "understand". Explain the costs of production, the value of the content and give her a figure to buy it back. NEVER say anything more than you have to .... that's just simple business law 101.

Treat every business correspondence like you're about to get sued By the person you're corresponding with. Choose your words wisely. You'll never have a rational conversation with an irrational person, a sane conversation with an insane person, an honest conversation with a corrupt person or a reasonable conversation with an unreasonable person. Choose every word carefully as if it will be evidence against you. When you do that, you'll find you have a lot less to worry about in these sorts of exchanges. And DO NOT be baited into a back and forth, arguments etc where you'll eventually slip and say the wrong thing. Just resend your original, well thought out response.

aka123 · 05-08-2015, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babeterminal

I'm contacting you in an effort to take down a page I found on your website with my information but it's not me. The page is on xxxxxxx.com under the name "AVIA" from FTV site. The pictures are not of me, the links are to my business website and social media links. The photos and images are actually of my sister (we're twins) and she's been going through some emotional issues which she is addressing in therapy. She did some shoots for a site called FTV a few years ago, (she just told me about) and then posed as me in the paperwork and some comments. It's important to me for this page to be removed from your site because I am a model and I am an aspiring actress and it hurts my career if any google searches result in finding erotic photos of my sister, who looks like me. I'm doing everything I can to clear this up. I would greatly appreciate if you would please remove any of the pages on xxxxxxxx.com of "AVIA".

Thank you so much for your time and consideration, I greatly appreciate it!
Kara Gibson

If the links are for her business page and social media accounts, maybe you should start with removing those. Put at least some links those will bring you money. Or are you going to advertise her business?

Grapesoda · 05-08-2015, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by babeterminal

I'm contacting you in an effort to take down a page I found on your website with my information but it's not me. The page is on xxxxxxx.com under the name "AVIA" from FTV site. The pictures are not of me, the links are to my business website and social media links. The photos and images are actually of my sister (we're twins) and she's been going through some emotional issues which she is addressing in therapy. She did some shoots for a site called FTV a few years ago, (she just told me about) and then posed as me in the paperwork and some comments. It's important to me for this page to be removed from your site because I am a model and I am an aspiring actress and it hurts my career if any google searches result in finding erotic photos of my sister, who looks like me. I'm doing everything I can to clear this up. I would greatly appreciate if you would please remove any of the pages on xxxxxxxx.com of "AVIA".

Thank you so much for your time and consideration, I greatly appreciate it!
Kara Gibson

forward the email to FTV and use another model for the gallery...no big deal

robwod · 05-08-2015, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

forward the email to FTV and use another model for the gallery...no big deal

That's basically what I do if it's affiliate based content. I never shot the content. I inform the person to contact the photographer/company and then I usually just remove it. It's not like it's the difference between eating or not. And certainly not like there aren't 1000 other models you can replace her with.

Things change, models move on, life goes on. It's just not a big deal to me to replace them.

Vendzilla · 05-08-2015, 08:36 AM

I would ask for ID's of both girls before preceding. Something that shows they are twins. Then if that is the case, take it down. If not, she is lying and wait for a lawyer.

signupdamnit · 05-08-2015, 08:37 AM

Assuming it is really her I'd probably just go ahead and take it down assuming you are just an affiliate. It would make me feel like a creep keeping her content up when she wanted it down.

If you were the shooter or the sponsor then I could see asking for a refund of your payment to her at the very least. Fair is fair.

I agree with the other suggestions that it is a good idea to notify the sponsor/content owner about this. Despite what they said though I personally would still remove the content. As crazy as it sounds from me I don't like pissing off people any more than I have to.

AntonMG · 05-08-2015, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by babeterminal

i had to look that up
Streisand effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

any links going to where there is twins

Thanks for the link, followed two extra links and got to this:

If that is not serendipity, what is?

Grapesoda · 05-08-2015, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by robwod

That's basically what I do if it's affiliate based content. I never shot the content. I inform the person to contact the photographer/company and then I usually just remove it. It's not like it's the difference between eating or not. And certainly not like there aren't 1000 other models you can replace her with.

Things change, models move on, life goes on. It's just not a big deal to me to replace them.

exactly

JimmyStephans · 05-08-2015, 10:11 AM

There must be some site out there that tells girls to try these stories.

I got a removal request very, very much like that about 2 years ago. same thing - Twin used my name and ID, blah, blah, blah.

Only difference was that the one I got was a threat to sue me if I didn't take stuff down.

I said send me copies of BOTH girls IDs.

Never heard back.

SpicyM · 05-08-2015, 10:16 AM

Lol at the twin story ..women always make up such crazy tales it's ridiculous.

Rochard · 05-08-2015, 10:36 AM

Not your problem. Have her contact FTV.

pornguy · 05-08-2015, 10:39 AM

Unless you can track the vast majority of your sales with them to her photos, take them down and move on.

Not worth the issues later if ftv gets sued and your name is added to the pile. Not that the girl has a leg to stand on but a suit can tie things up for months.

NaughtyVisions · 05-08-2015, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Not your problem. Have her contact FTV.

If she's contacting any affiliates that have her listed, she should probably hit up freeones, who have her listed by the name "Kara Gibson."

Kara Gibson Videos and Photos (9) at FreeOnes

Edit: Shit, Freeones links to her personal youtube, personal twitter and personal website. That's a bit of an ouch...

pornmasta · 05-08-2015, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

If it were me, I'd certainly count in her favor that she asked nicely.

yes, indeed

PR_Glen · 05-08-2015, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

According to my attorney, you're bordering on extortion. Do not do this. Either remove it, or don't.

yeah, and a court wouldn't really have sympathy for producers over a girl who wants to 'start over' either. Probably best to just remove and replace.

Bladewire · 05-08-2015, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

If she's contacting any affiliates that have her listed, she should probably hit up freeones, who have her listed by the name "Kara Gibson."

Kara Gibson Videos and Photos (9) at FreeOnes

Edit: Shit, Freeones links to her personal youtube, personal twitter and personal website. That's a bit of an ouch...

Wow. WTF

pornmasta · 05-08-2015, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

Videos and Photos (9) at FreeOnes

She is really cute

MakeMeGrrrrowl · 05-08-2015, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

If it were me, I'd certainly count in her favor that she asked nicely.

suesheboy · 05-08-2015, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantyfreek

We have had requests to remove images in the past. What I tell them is they have to reimburse money paid for the shoot, time it took to post the images or video, time to remove them AND loss of future earnings. Original cost + $300 + $300 + $1200

Sounds like she has remorse for posing. The twin story sounds quite odd.

This is a fair solution to me.

Axeman · 05-08-2015, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

Well, once you get her to realize that lying to get her content removed is not the way to go about it you should explain all the costs associated with buying that content and suggest you are open to a buy out. Explain that even if you take down the content wherever you have posted it that there is no guarantee that it won't be renamed, pirated, etc and nearly impossible to remove completely. However, once she has paid for whatever you are out or whatever terms you agree to that she can freely dmca there on since in essence she would be buying back her rights (if in fact you are the original producer and own the rights).

Be polite and courteous and respectful that she is pained by the content being up but address the professional concerns/obligations and try to help her see the issues from your perspective. She doesn't want to ruin her life and you don't want to be taken advantage of. It is a crappy situation for everyone but can be dealt with in mutually acceptable fashion.

This is exactly how we handle such requests when they come up.

Axeman · 05-08-2015, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

If she's contacting any affiliates that have her listed, she should probably hit up freeones, who have her listed by the name "Kara Gibson."

Kara Gibson Videos and Photos (9) at FreeOnes

Edit: Shit, Freeones links to her personal youtube, personal twitter and personal website. That's a bit of an ouch...

Ouch indeed. Not a fan of that, at all.

05-07-2015, 06:57 PM	#1
babeterminal Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: tits Posts: 2,751	model request removal what would u do? I'm contacting you in an effort to take down a page I found on your website with my information but it's not me. The page is on xxxxxxx.com under the name "AVIA" from FTV site. The pictures are not of me, the links are to my business website and social media links. The photos and images are actually of my sister (we're twins) and she's been going through some emotional issues which she is addressing in therapy. She did some shoots for a site called FTV a few years ago, (she just told me about) and then posed as me in the paperwork and some comments. It's important to me for this page to be removed from your site because I am a model and I am an aspiring actress and it hurts my career if any google searches result in finding erotic photos of my sister, who looks like me. I'm doing everything I can to clear this up. I would greatly appreciate if you would please remove any of the pages on xxxxxxxx.com of "AVIA". Thank you so much for your time and consideration, I greatly appreciate it! Kara Gibson

05-07-2015, 07:20 PM	#4
pantyfreek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 32	We have had requests to remove images in the past. What I tell them is they have to reimburse money paid for the shoot, time it took to post the images or video, time to remove them AND loss of future earnings. Original cost + $300 + $300 + $1200 Sounds like she has remorse for posing. The twin story sounds quite odd. __________________ Panty Freek

05-07-2015, 07:31 PM	#6
PaperstreetWinston Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 2,604	imagine the fight those two mustve had when FTV was brought up __________________ Winston Affiliate Support PaperstreetCash MYLFMoney Charger Cash Skype: mikrocosmos1 Email: [email protected]

05-07-2015, 10:14 PM	#14
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	Well, once you get her to realize that lying to get her content removed is not the way to go about it you should explain all the costs associated with buying that content and suggest you are open to a buy out. Explain that even if you take down the content wherever you have posted it that there is no guarantee that it won't be renamed, pirated, etc and nearly impossible to remove completely. However, once she has paid for whatever you are out or whatever terms you agree to that she can freely dmca there on since in essence she would be buying back her rights (if in fact you are the original producer and own the rights). Be polite and courteous and respectful that she is pained by the content being up but address the professional concerns/obligations and try to help her see the issues from your perspective. She doesn't want to ruin her life and you don't want to be taken advantage of. It is a crappy situation for everyone but can be dealt with in mutually acceptable fashion. __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

05-08-2015, 02:26 AM	#17
TheDA Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,665	Social media does seem to show that she is a twin but I'm not buying her "it was actually my sister that did the shoot story" __________________ Sharleen Spiteri - 1989 - In The Ass

05-07-2015, 07:05 PM	#2
Mr Pheer I got bored here. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 20,839	Doesnt look like a DMCA request to me

05-07-2015, 07:17 PM	#3
SplatterMaster Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: cyberspace Posts: 790	Takedown should come from copyright holder. "Kara" should contact FTV and have them send takedown notices. Doubt that will happen since FTV still has her stuff up Avia on FTVGirls.com Released Jun 20, 2014!

05-07-2015, 07:20 PM	#5
Jim_Gunn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where The Teens Are Posts: 5,702	I give her an A for creativity with that story.

05-07-2015, 07:31 PM	#7
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,151	"twin" .

05-07-2015, 07:35 PM	#8
babeterminal Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: tits Posts: 2,751	yeah the twin thing gets me i checked her imdb page and i think most people with a twin gets a mention, i suppose fucking bananas and sticking dildos up ya ass is a bit of a knock back

05-07-2015, 07:37 PM	#9
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,229	SplatterMaster is 100% correct. Just tell her how to contact FTV to get what she wants, it's the right thing to do and it will get her off your back. Her Vine seems to show her & her twin.

05-07-2015, 08:06 PM	#10
MiamiBoyz fgfdftre6 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: In the closet with your dad! Posts: 6,690	I am sure that the only twin she has is her other personality when she's off her meds. Put her on your site's home page.

05-07-2015, 08:36 PM	#11
TisMe Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,719	Rogue twin?

05-07-2015, 09:39 PM	#12
VikingMan Exploiting human weakness Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: next to a salmon stream Posts: 6,496	her pussy and ass look like they belong on a 50 year old woman

05-08-2015, 12:40 AM	#15
Manfap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,620	Ask for proof, then inform her that you will take down the content and then prosecute her twin.

05-08-2015, 02:29 AM	#18
ownedbox Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 250	how much does she need for this "buying back her rights"? __________________ Crypto Trading: Take a Bite of Future Currencies \| #1 World Bitcoin Affiliate Network

05-08-2015, 02:30 AM	#19
TheDA Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,665	I can see the Streisand Effect going into action here __________________ Sharleen Spiteri - 1989 - In The Ass

05-08-2015, 03:21 AM	#21
AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,536	Let your sponsor FTV know they may have a problem. If it were me, I'd certainly count in her favor that she asked nicely. Why are you linking adult affiliate content to her real life pages or is that not what is happening? __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

05-08-2015, 03:40 AM	#24
babeterminal Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: tits Posts: 2,751	i also think she tried ftv first off and they told her where to go

05-08-2015, 03:42 AM	#25
babeterminal Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: tits Posts: 2,751	just to say i have one non nude image and i am linked only to ftv galleries

05-08-2015, 03:44 AM	#26
babeterminal Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: tits Posts: 2,751	coming back through the market today the guy always shouts "have a look get ya banana their for a pound" every time i hear that now i will be thinking of this

05-08-2015, 07:32 AM	#28
trevesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 3,802	Cam models and other models with over zealous "managers"(aka, their fuck buddy in college) do crap like this all the time. If it's not a properly formatted DMCA, you don't legally have to do anything. If you want to remove it, ok. If you don't, ok.

05-08-2015, 08:20 AM	#30
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,113	Content is property that has value. It should be treated as any other property. If you buy a car and the seller comes to you two years later saying "hey man, I want my car back..." You'd obviously say "fine, you can buy it back for xxxxx". Why treat photos and videos other than what they are? My view is this.... I worked with tons of models. It's normal human behavior to want money today without thinking about future consequences. That is a behavior that producers exploit. No sane person could possibly think that it's unreasonable for an 18 year old to regret we decision in a few years. It's normal for someone to regret their decisions, particularly when most are making these decisions at a young age. Everyone should have the right to buy the content back based on some reasonable valuation formula that takes into account not only the pescitoom cost but its value to the business (ie when a single model is inordinately popular and also driving sales, used to promote the site etc etc). Treat your business like a business. That should be something filed under "no shit" but it seems to me that almost no one in this industry gets that. AND DO NOT follow far-L's advice and admit that you are aware you are causing emotional distress... that's grounds for a lawsuit. She doesn't need to understand your perspective.... she won't and she can't: she's not you, she's not running your business... she's someone who is in.a panic likely because someone saw her and recognized her,... It's unrealistic to think she's going to "understand". Explain the costs of production, the value of the content and give her a figure to buy it back. NEVER say anything more than you have to .... that's just simple business law 101. Treat every business correspondence like you're about to get sued By the person you're corresponding with. Choose your words wisely. You'll never have a rational conversation with an irrational person, a sane conversation with an insane person, an honest conversation with a corrupt person or a reasonable conversation with an unreasonable person. Choose every word carefully as if it will be evidence against you. When you do that, you'll find you have a lot less to worry about in these sorts of exchanges. And DO NOT be baited into a back and forth, arguments etc where you'll eventually slip and say the wrong thing. Just resend your original, well thought out response.

05-08-2015, 08:36 AM	#34
Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,200	I would ask for ID's of both girls before preceding. Something that shows they are twins. Then if that is the case, take it down. If not, she is lying and wait for a lawyer. __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

05-08-2015, 08:37 AM	#35
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	Assuming it is really her I'd probably just go ahead and take it down assuming you are just an affiliate. It would make me feel like a creep keeping her content up when she wanted it down. If you were the shooter or the sponsor then I could see asking for a refund of your payment to her at the very least. Fair is fair. I agree with the other suggestions that it is a good idea to notify the sponsor/content owner about this. Despite what they said though I personally would still remove the content. As crazy as it sounds from me I don't like pissing off people any more than I have to. __________________ You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

05-08-2015, 10:11 AM	#38
JimmyStephans Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Littleton, Colorado. USA Posts: 558	There must be some site out there that tells girls to try these stories. I got a removal request very, very much like that about 2 years ago. same thing - Twin used my name and ID, blah, blah, blah. Only difference was that the one I got was a threat to sue me if I didn't take stuff down. I said send me copies of BOTH girls IDs. Never heard back. __________________ http://TrueBabes.com/

05-08-2015, 10:16 AM	#39
SpicyM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,540	Lol at the twin story ..women always make up such crazy tales it's ridiculous.

05-08-2015, 10:36 AM	#40
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 73,298	Not your problem. Have her contact FTV. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

05-08-2015, 10:39 AM	#41
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	Unless you can track the vast majority of your sales with them to her photos, take them down and move on. Not worth the issues later if ftv gets sued and your name is added to the pile. Not that the girl has a leg to stand on but a suit can tie things up for months. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!