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dyna mo · 05-17-2015, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

and you are a typical 'mericunt

i couldn't give 1 single shit what a genocider thinks of me.

crockett · 05-17-2015, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

yup, typical libtard, when they're shown how fucking wrong they are, they try and deflect with a meme that makes no sense.

Sorry, I don't have time to read all your copy and pastes atm, so only have time to feed your fake outrage.

dyna mo · 05-17-2015, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Sorry, I don't have time to read all your copy and pastes atm, so only have time to feed your fake outrage.

claims the guy who started this thread with a bullshit c&p.

pimpmaster9000 · 05-17-2015, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

i couldn't give 1 single shit what a genocider thinks of me.

and I hold the terrorist supporters opinion in such high regard

dyna mo · 05-17-2015, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

and I hold the terrorist supporters opinion in such high regard

i know that. that's why you hang out here. because you suck USA cock.

Bladewire · 05-17-2015, 09:46 AM

I feel safer knowing my calls to Grandma will be closely examined to keep America safe

pimpmaster9000 · 05-17-2015, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

i know that. that's why you hang out here. because you suck USA cock.

no I hang out here to relive boredom and troll stupid shits like you

Joshua G · 05-17-2015, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Pressure on the people with the current power is the only way to do it.. If tens of thousands of people were protesting Bohners office, Reid's office and other high ranking members of the house and senate with a unified voice of end the spying they would be forced to comply.

Civil disobedience works wonders if it has a unified goal. Instead they just encourage people to join teams and pretend one team is diffrent than the other. While they are diffrent in many areas, the NSA and spying is one area they are equally fucking everyone.

man ask the japanese at okinawa how all their protesting has gone to get the US military off their island. been going on decades.

im suprised you tried to answer that question. there is nothing anyone can do to stop the defense industry watching over everything they can. wait til everyone has GPS embedded into them at birth. its to keep your child safe, of course!

dyna mo · 05-17-2015, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

no I hang out here to relive boredom and troll stupid shits like you

that is sucking USA cock. that's what you don't get. you think it's trolling. but it's just proof you take USA cock.

you're bored so you rely on USA to entertain you + you troll USA because you have lingering butt hurt from Clinton bombs = sucking USA cock.

USA cocksucker.

crockett · 05-17-2015, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

man ask the japanese at okinawa how all their protesting has gone to get the US military off their island. been going on decades.

im suprised you tried to answer that question. there is nothing anyone can do to stop the defense industry watching over everything they can. wait til everyone has GPS embedded into them at birth. its to keep your child safe, of course!

It's easy for the govt to ignore them as it's another country and there is no added pressure from here in the states. However if you start protesting in very visible places and directly protesting those whom run Congress then things can be made to happen.

Joshua G · 05-17-2015, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

It's easy for the govt to ignore them as it's another country and there is no added pressure from here in the states. However if you start protesting in very visible places and directly protesting those whom run Congress then things can be made to happen.

Dick Cheney is reading this thread & having a nice

MFCT · 05-17-2015, 06:12 PM

I was trying to make sense of why they'd waste such time and resources turning the spy cross-hairs on Americans, instead of hostile groups in the Middle East. You know, like the ones who did 911? Then a possible scenario occurred to me.

Maybe the NSA doesn't have the kind of access to telecoms and internet infrastructure in the Middle East that they do here in the USA. They'd have to deal with each of those governments first. Maybe they can't depend on every government in the Middle East to agree 100%, cooperate with 100% of what they want, 100% of the time. However, in the USA its a non-issue.

With the wide-open southern border, where anyone from anywhere can cross over without question and possibly be rewarded with citizenship, could it be that they WANT every hostile group in the world to cross over into USA via Mexico? So they can spy on their phone records and internet traffic unimpeded? And then use that information to thwart any evil intent those groups might have?

If that's the plan, it seems like a very bad idea, and a very risky gamble. But its one thing that might explain why they're so hell-bent on continually extending and passing such Bizarro-world laws.

Just my 2 cents.

directfiesta · 05-17-2015, 06:44 PM

I really hate you guys for your freedom !

kane · 05-17-2015, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I always gets blasted for this, but frankly.... I just don't care. If the US government wants to read my texts and my emails they can knock themselves out. There is just absolutely nothing of interest there.

And please don't tell me "this is what they said when the Nazis came to power". No, it isn't.

You should read a book called "Three Felonies a Day." The idea behind it is that the average person can wake up, eat breakfast, go to work, put in their 8 hours, come home and spend the rest of their night relaxing and not realize that they potentially committed a federal crime that day. The reason is that there are so many laws on the books and over the years they have gotten so convoluted that just about anyone can be charged with a crime.

This doesn't mean that the cops are just going to draw your name out of a hat and one afternoon arrest you. They have better things to do. However, if something were to happen where you were involved in an incident where the authorities might investigate you then you could have problems. They start going through all these emails, messages phone records etc that they have been keeping on you and they can pick and choose stuff that might help them prove you are guilty of a crime.

You may have nothing to hide. Most of us are likely that way. That doesn't mean that you will never be involved in a situation where those things may eventually be taken out of context and used against you.

Robbie · 05-17-2015, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MFCT

I was trying to make sense of why they'd waste such time and resources turning the spy cross-hairs on Americans, instead of hostile groups in the Middle East. You know, like the ones who did 911?

Because it's never been about watching goat herders in the Middle East. It's always been about watching us. Keeping us under control and docile.

Just look at the TSA at the airports. They've never found a single "terrorist" or bomb.
But they find plenty of pot and baggies of cocaine. It was just an excuse to give the govt. the ability to FINALLY search us. And we the people are practically BEGGING them to do it.

Disgusting.

sonofsam · 05-17-2015, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I always gets blasted for this, but frankly.... I just don't care. If the US government wants to read my texts and my emails they can knock themselves out. There is just absolutely nothing of interest there.

And please don't tell me "this is what they said when the Nazis came to power". No, it isn't.

You get blasted for it because you are an idiot.

The whole "nothing to hide so I don't care" implies that the sole purpose of privacy is to hide wrong-doing.

That is why you get blasted.

shoot twice · 05-17-2015, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

This month the supreme court ruled that the NSA was over reaching it's lawful ability to spy on American citizens. The ruling stated that they had gone way beyond what Congress authorized.

This put the ball into Congress's court to do the "right thing" and take back some "freedoms" which have been thrown in the garbage. This month the Patriot Act is up for renewal and this is the defining moment as to if Congress removes the NSA's current spying power, legitimizes it or gives them more..

They have opted to give the NSA even more spying power than it already has.. "yey freedom"..

The New NSA Reform Bill Would Give the Government Even More Power to Spy on Your Smartphone | VICE | United States

Every asshole whom voted in favor..

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll224.xml

The house has voted to allow the NSA to keep in their possession every phone call record which takes place in the US and hold on to them for 5 years. Previously the telco companies held these records and the govt was "supposed" to get a warrant to access these records. (we all know the warrants weren't happening)

With this new bill the govt will hold on to the records meaning they will have access to them once again with out warrants.

The bill also allows them to track internet data on smart phones, something they weren't allowed to do before with out a warrant.

This is what the House calls the "USA Freedom Act". I think it means freedom to spy on the USA.. Meanwhile the NSA doesn't think this is enough and are lobbying for full access to all internet traffic.

1) Buy a typewriter and stop using the computer
2) Send letters via snail mail and stop using email, facebook, etc
3) Get a CB radio and walkie talkies for your family and friends

Otherwise deal with the fact that one day they're going to spy on you because if you're not doing anything wrong you've got nothing to worry about. ie: Coming soon the Intelligent Toilet

MFCT · 05-17-2015, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Because it's never been about watching goat herders in the Middle East. It's always been about watching us. Keeping us under control and docile.

Just look at the TSA at the airports. They've never found a single "terrorist" or bomb.
But they find plenty of pot and baggies of cocaine. It was just an excuse to give the govt. the ability to FINALLY search us. And we the people are practically BEGGING them to do it.

Disgusting.

Interesting that you mentioned TSA. They meticulously grope crying toddlers for guns or whatever, and somehow expect that to make us feel safe when we fly. All the while, a blind eye is turned to the open border.

And speaking of... here's another Bizarro-world factoid. "The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is allowing illegal immigrants go around airport security to catch planes without a photo identification required of all other passengers, a high-level DHS source tells Judicial Watch."

DHS Source: TSA Lets Illegal Aliens Surpass Airport Security to Board Planes - Judicial Watch

Welcome to the Twilight Zone.

klinton · 05-18-2015, 07:21 AM

you should read the docs and you will get an answer :P
Revelations | Courage Snowden
from the bottom to the top ;-)

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Originally Posted by MFCT

I was trying to make sense of why they'd waste such time and resources turning the spy cross-hairs on Americans, instead of hostile groups in the Middle East. You know, like the ones who did 911? Then a possible scenario occurred to me.

Maybe the NSA doesn't have the kind of access to telecoms and internet infrastructure in the Middle East that they do here in the USA. They'd have to deal with each of those governments first. Maybe they can't depend on every government in the Middle East to agree 100%, cooperate with 100% of what they want, 100% of the time. However, in the USA its a non-issue.

With the wide-open southern border, where anyone from anywhere can cross over without question and possibly be rewarded with citizenship, could it be that they WANT every hostile group in the world to cross over into USA via Mexico? So they can spy on their phone records and internet traffic unimpeded? And then use that information to thwart any evil intent those groups might have?

If that's the plan, it seems like a very bad idea, and a very risky gamble. But its one thing that might explain why they're so hell-bent on continually extending and passing such Bizarro-world laws.

Just my 2 cents.

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MFCT Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 1,489	I was trying to make sense of why they'd waste such time and resources turning the spy cross-hairs on Americans, instead of hostile groups in the Middle East. You know, like the ones who did 911? Then a possible scenario occurred to me. Maybe the NSA doesn't have the kind of access to telecoms and internet infrastructure in the Middle East that they do here in the USA. They'd have to deal with each of those governments first. Maybe they can't depend on every government in the Middle East to agree 100%, cooperate with 100% of what they want, 100% of the time. However, in the USA its a non-issue. With the wide-open southern border, where anyone from anywhere can cross over without question and possibly be rewarded with citizenship, could it be that they WANT every hostile group in the world to cross over into USA via Mexico? So they can spy on their phone records and internet traffic unimpeded? And then use that information to thwart any evil intent those groups might have? If that's the plan, it seems like a very bad idea, and a very risky gamble. But its one thing that might explain why they're so hell-bent on continually extending and passing such Bizarro-world laws. Just my 2 cents. __________________ Keeping you abreast of the teens that get undressed. Girls By Location - Couples By Location - Guys By Location - Trans By Location

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