News Cloudflare forced to play the same game as everyone else

[AdultKing]

Cloudflare has now been dragged kicking and screaming into the real world where it can no longer offer safe harbour to illegal, infringing or criminal websites.

A California Internet company ordered by a federal judge to stop providing services to a copycat version of Grooveshark, the streaming music website shut down in April by a copyright dispute, says it is being improperly thrust into an enforcement role.

The order Wednesday by U.S. District Judge Alison Nathan in Manhattan widening a preliminary injunction against the operators of the cloned Grooveshark to now include CloudFlare, Inc, "makes CloudFlare and other Internet Service Providers the copyright and trademark police for other rights holders," the company's general counsel, Kenneth Carter, said in an interview.

Web company says judge's ruling turns it into 'copyright police' | Reuters

[PornDiscounts-V]

Was never sure why they could do what they do for such sites, but Youtube has to remove infringing content and so does everyone else.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by vvvvv

Was never sure why they could do what they do for such sites, but Youtube has to remove infringing content and so does everyone else.

Well this judgement, if not overturned, will lead to others which will result in Cloudflare no longer being a "safe haven".

The number of crimeware sites hidden behind Cloudflare is astonishing.

Cloudflare's service is a fantastic one, they are much better off shedding the scum they currently protect.

[freecartoonporn]

why people are using cloudflare ?, reverse proxy is nothing new , its just reverse proxy as a service.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

why people are using cloudflare ?, reverse proxy is nothing new , its just reverse proxy as a service.

It's a CDN that has the lowest cost of entry together with collective protection against DDoS, malicious bots and other cool stuff. Unfortunately all this was very attractive to crimeware and other nefarious sites.

[Markul]

This is funny, considering the fact that you used CloudFlare for your little Copy Control Pty scam and defended them in the past when I pointed out that they harbor pirates... in fact you said:

They are a CDN (Content Distribution Network) that only caches around the world what is served from primary servers elsewhere.

To take the content down, or the site down, contacting the originating host of the content is the correct strategy to pursue.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Markul

This is funny, considering the fact that you used CloudFlare for your little Copy Control Pty scam and defended them in the past when I pointed out that they harbor pirates...

Scam ? Copy Control is not and was never a scam, you better retract that or come up with some proof pretty quickly.

They are a CDN (Content Distribution Network) that only caches around the world what is served from primary servers elsewhere.

To take the content down, or the site down, contacting the originating host of the content is the correct strategy to pursue.

And this still applies, in fact the court order confirms that by removing the anonymity of Cloudflare from the equation.

Markul, you really do yourself a disservice by trotting out lies and then showing how much you lack in the basic understanding of the issues here.

[Markul]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Scam ? Copy Control is not and was never a scam, you better retract that or come up with some proof pretty quickly.

Fuck off

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Markul

Fuck off

Yes, we know how you conduct business Markul, as a pirate sympathiser and someone who harbours piracy sites on his network it's no wonder you react like this.



After two years you still haven't blocked file locker domains from being exploited by your pirate users.

[Markul]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Yes, we know how you conduct business Markul, as a pirate sympathiser and someone who harbours piracy sites on his network it's no wonder you react like this.

After two years you still haven't blocked file locker domains from being exploited by your pirate users.

you are such an idiot man, why are you even here? No-one likes you except your little bitch Johnny.

Go back to ripping off production companies

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Markul

you are such an idiot man, why are you even here? No-one likes you except your little bitch Johnny.

Go back to ripping off production companies

I don't rip anyone off, never have and never will. However you're still hosting piracy sites. Says a lot about you.

[Bladewire]

[Markul]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

I don't rip anyone off, never have and never will.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

What movie is that from?

Markul. I understand you have a gripe because you have competing services with AdultKing and you feel differently about piracy than some do. But your alignment with pirates, malware and pedophile peeps is not good for your business.

Stop making drama and put some evidence out there. Cold hard facts. You have a nice service. Show that you are worth the support.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

What movie is that from?

The last Game of Thrones episode, it was awesome.

Markul will come to regret his statements on GFY tonight, I guarantee that.

[Markul]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

What movie is that from?

Markul. I understand you have a gripe because you have competing services with AdultKing and you feel differently about piracy than some do. But your alignment with pirates, malware and <FUCK YOU I HAVE KIDS> peeps is not good for your business.

Stop making drama and put some evidence out there. Cold hard facts. You have a nice service. Show that you are worth the support.

I don't need, want or in any way or shape, desire you or any of AK's cronies support.... Now did you just call me a pedo... really? wow. that's fucking low man, even for you.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

What movie is that from?

Markul. I understand you have a gripe because you have competing services with AdultKing and you feel differently about piracy than some do. But your alignment with pirates, malware and pedophile peeps is not good for your business.

Stop making drama and put some evidence out there. Cold hard facts. You have a nice service. Show that you are worth the support.

The last Game of Thrones

Your inbox is full

[Markul]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Markul will come to regret his statements on GFY tonight, I guarantee that.

[xXXtesy10]

just call them Caitlyn

[pornguy]

They are claiming it makes them the police.

And it does not at all. it makes them the judges.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Markul

I don't need, want or in any way or shape, desire you or any of AK's cronies support.... Now did you just call me a pedo... really? wow. that's fucking low man, even for you.

I like Markul


AK & Markul both know you can't have a blog hosting service without stolen content.

Youtube knows this, Instagram, Tumblr. Everyone knows this.

You both are in the same provider space, Markul was just there first

[sandman!]

they will fight it

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

[AK & Markul both know you can't have a blog hosting service without stolen content.

That's completely true, we've deleted lots of blogs linking to file lockers and other infringing sites. It all comes down to how pro-actively you police it. Markul's legal situation may be different from ours - however our legal advice is that we need to take pro-active measures to keep infringing content off our service, so we have policies in place that reflect that.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by sandman!

they will fight it

I'm surprised they haven't immediately appealed, although they have time to consider the judgement - it will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

I think Cloudflare could have avoided all this by establishing a procedure to allow rights holders to identify infringers and their originating server infrastructure.

On one hand Cloudflare says it is just a pass through service, however on the other they refuse to assist those who are investigating or prosecuting civil actions against their clients.

If they are just a pass through service, why then can't they be cooperative with legal action rather than digging their heels in to protect the infringers ?

Nobody is really interested in Cloudflare per se, the interest is really with the originating host of the service or site as that's who will need to shut down the infringers anyway.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by Markul

I don't need, want or in any way or shape, desire you or any of AK's cronies support.... Now did you just call me a pedo... really? wow. that's fucking low man, even for you.

No. I said you align yourself with pedos. Try and keep up. You are on the losing end of this stick. Cloudflare now knows it and others will learn it. Juts FYI they have been quietly making deals with REAL ISPs because they knew this day was coming.

There's nothing low about what I do. Apparently you are filth. Sorry to say that but that's what it looks like.

No hard facts. I expected as much but hoped for more.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

I like Markul


AK & Markul both know you can't have a blog hosting service without stolen content.

Youtube knows this, Instagram, Tumblr. Everyone knows this.

You both are in the same provider space, Markul was just there first

Imgur just decided this this week as well. No more porn. Much of it stolen or being mis-used by people with no rights to it. They are purging adult content and looking for cat pics. Which is okay by me.

Yeah, I like Markul as well. But his sights need re-alignment, imo.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Imgur just decided this this week as well. No more porn. Much of it stolen or being mis-used by people with no rights to it. They are purging adult content and looking for cat pics. Which is okay by me.

This & This

Top posts on IMGUR are porn.

Typical platform, get big, find Jesus and die slowly as users leave.


The adult content on IMGUR is misused by scrapers posting it to Tumblr to get traffic off tumblr and on to their money making sites.Old school spammers need to grow the fuck up and realize that value is what makes money now, not a slash & burn approach. It's less work and more money, they should learn that and adapt.

[trevesty]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Imgur just decided this this week as well. No more porn. Much of it stolen or being mis-used by people with no rights to it. They are purging adult content and looking for cat pics. Which is okay by me.

Yeah, I like Markul as well. But his sights need re-alignment, imo.

Imgur Blog



No, they just hired a couple of people to deal with take downs from the public gallery more efficiently and made their NSFW in public "rules" more transparent.

Nothing changed... at all... in practice.

[Captain Kawaii]

Cash not Jesus, Bladewire...

Porn is bad for business: Imgur spent years as a bootstrapped pet project of Alan Schaaf's, but in the past year, it's raised millions of dollars from prominent venture capital firms in order to turn its burgeoning community into a business. Imgur will be rolling out a new promoted ad campaign later this summer, and it's been hiring more salespeople to build a sort of user-generated Internet magazine of the future.

And although they want to keep the Imgurian identity intact, having a content free-for-all with porn everywhere is a major turn-off for premium advertisers. It's no coincidence that the new rules about NSFW content came at the same time as a major app release and announcement about new native ads. (Pornographic content hosted on Imgur ? much of which is accessed via Reddit ? is unaffected for the time being.)

Imgur Community Revolts After Site Tightens NSFW Controls - Mic

There is push back coming to adult from many sides: Govs, mainstream, religious nut jobs. Bottom line is they believe it diminishes their financial returns when porn is mixed too heavily with mainstream. Twitter just caught that, Pinterest seems to already know it and now imgur, wanting to grow has to slowly curtail some of the hardcore and links.
People in the porn business should be happy about this as it pushes the free-loaders/thieves into being consumers. Sure, people will continue to try and scam but the penalties are getting more stiff...so to speak.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by trevesty

Imgur Blog



No, they just hired a couple of people to deal with take downs from the public gallery more efficiently and made their NSFW in public "rules" more transparent.

Nothing changed... at all... in practice.

I'm sure you benefit from lots of "borrowed" content on reddit and imgur. Change is coming. Not all at once but deal with it.

[Markul]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

No. I said you align yourself with pedos. Try and keep up. You are on the losing end of this stick. Cloudflare now knows it and others will learn it. Juts FYI they have been quietly making deals with REAL ISPs because they knew this day was coming.

There's nothing low about what I do. Apparently you are filth. Sorry to say that but that's what it looks like.

No hard facts. I expected as much but hoped for more.

You have no basis to say what you did and you know that the terms of my service clearly state that nothing of that sort is allowed.

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Markul will come to regret his statements on GFY tonight, I guarantee that.

Yea... okay dude. Why didn't you just post this instead of sending me a PM:




Got that last night. Laughed. Reading it again. Laughing again.

Robert I thought about it: Please go ahead and sue.




Holy shit this got off topic fast. I'll give him that, Mr. Fucking Deflection King

[johnnyloadproductions]

This has been going on for over 1 1/2 years now.

Originally Posted by Markul

Holy shit this got off topic fast. I'll give him that, Mr. Fucking Deflection King

You started it in this thread...

with this:

Originally Posted by Markul

This is funny, considering the fact that you used CloudFlare for your little Copy Control Pty scam and defended them in the past when I pointed out that they harbor pirates... in fact you said:

I'll clear this up for everyone and point this out in a linear fashion so it is understood how this rivalry between the two of you started, which Markul utterly insists on instigating.

I don't have the PM saved anymore but I remember you commending the effort and donating money to the Copy Control campaign. Your opinion went polar opposite when he also started holding accountable ad networks, one of them was plugrush. You then send me a message which you threatened to even take legal action against Copy Control (which wouldn't have any ground anyway). I shared this with the copy control group.

AK is a good nature troll and when the original iteration of easyxsites/easyxblogs was taken down for revamp and a thread was made about it he simply made the comment

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Well if EasyXBlogs is going to be wiped then that will save me a bit of work reporting all the piracy blogs hosted there.

from: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...ing-sites.html

When I read that, I knew it was on and you were bated in.

Neither of you misses the chance to take a little potshot (AK hasn't done anything for well over 6 months to you), but you (Markul) go out of your way and seem to do so that doesn't segue well, even abusively.

Get over it.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Markul

You have no basis to say what you did and you know that the terms of my service clearly state that nothing of that sort is allowed.





Yea... okay dude. Why didn't you just post this instead of sending me a PM:




Got that last night. Laughed. Reading it again. Laughing again.

Robert I thought about it: Please go ahead and sue.




Holy shit this got off topic fast. I'll give him that, Mr. Fucking Deflection King

I made a mistake being an outspoken AK supporter in the past. I hope people can understand where I was coming from at the time.

I'm done with supporting anyone here publicly that can't give a simple thank you privately, reply to a PM or hit me up on Skype. It's litterally like remedial school.

All my public support for AK then he disappears only to resurface in a thread of mine being negative and unsuportive.

I still believe in fighting the good fight and supportibg eachother but not when ... fuck it. Retard school I'm done educating.

[Ribbet Hog]

Is GFY site nannyed out of alot of stuff?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

This has been going on for over 1 1/2 years now.



You started it in this thread...

with this:




I'll clear this up for everyone and point this out in a linear fashion so it is understood how this rivalry between the two of you started, which Markul utterly insists on instigating.

I don't have the PM saved anymore but I remember you commending the effort and donating money to the Copy Control campaign. Your opinion went polar opposite when he also started holding accountable ad networks, one of them was plugrush. You then send me a message which you threatened to even take legal action against Copy Control (which wouldn't have any ground anyway). I shared this with the copy control group.

AK is a good nature troll and when the original iteration of easyxsites/easyxblogs was taken down for revamp and a thread was made about it he simply made the comment
from: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...ing-sites.html

When I read that, I knew it was on and you were bated in.

Neither of you misses the chance to take a little potshot (AK hasn't done anything for well over 6 months to you), but you (Markul) go out of your way and seem to do so that doesn't segue well, even abusively.

Get over it.

Actually he's not good a good natured troll. He's fairly arrogant, and takes for granted even his most outspoken supporters.

[Markul]

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

This has been going on for over 1 1/2 years now.

/.../

Neither of you misses the chance to take a little potshot (AK hasn't done anything for well over 6 months to you), but you (Markul) go out of your way and seem to do so that doesn't segue well, even abusively.

Get over it.

I knew it was only a matter of time before you'd be in here like clockwork

Originally Posted by Bladewire

I made a mistake being an outspoken AK supporter in the past. I hope people can understand where I was coming from at the time.

I'm done with supporting anyone here publicly that can't give a simple thank you privately, reply to a PM or hit me up on Skype. It's litterally like remedial school.

All my public support for AK then he disappears only to resurface in a thread of mine being negative and unsuportive.

I still believe in fighting the good fight and supportibg eachother but not when ... fuck it. Retard school I'm done educating.

Yea me too, I also supported him. Shame on me lol, but all of this started when I was asking questions about his methods and where this was going - then he started attacking me and never stopped.

So I am just returning the favor

[brandonstills]

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn

why people are using cloudflare ?, reverse proxy is nothing new , its just reverse proxy as a service.

I use them because they host common JavaScript and CSS frameworks for free and they are fast. Makes pages load faster. If some other site already used those common libraries my sites get to load them from the browser cache.