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Zuzana Designs · 06-04-2015, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

And they trained you to shoot for the legs?

I would rather not have the guilt of killing someone hang with me the rest of my life I guess. But that's just me. I was taught that you shot to stop the threat if they are unarmed. When that fails aim for the head.

baddog · 06-04-2015, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs

I would rather not have the guilt of killing someone hang with me the rest of my life I guess. I was taught that you shot to stop the threat. When that fails aim for the head.

Wow, head shots? The surprises the hell out of me. I kind of figured the chest would be a lot easier to hit under a stressful situation. And why would you have guilt about protecting yourself or someone else?

Zuzana Designs · 06-04-2015, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Wow, head shots? The surprises the hell out of me. I kind of figured the chest would be a lot easier to hit under a stressful situation. And why would you have guilt about protecting yourself or someone else?

As I said if I was in that situation I would have a hard time knowing I killed someone. That's just me. I have never been in that situation and hope I never am. I'm sure it's different when you are.

So to clarify. I was not taught to shot someone in the leg. The torso is where you are taught to shot or the first thing you see in a threat. Whether it's a leg, hand etc...

Zuzana Designs · 06-04-2015, 09:18 AM

shot = shoot. Not sure why I spelled it wrong so many times. Doing too many things at once.

PR_Glen · 06-04-2015, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs

Glad nobody died and you're safe but why not just shoot him in the leg? When ever I hear someone got shot in the face I always think about dumb and dumber.

https://youtu.be/ofQ6i9I1IYY

glad i'm not the only one who considered that a better idea.. if he's armed then I'd understand though.

Vendzilla · 06-04-2015, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

You really watch too much TV. Have you ever been to a firing range? Were there silhouettes that included legs?

You so funny

Here's a favorite, some leg I guess

Colmike9 · 06-04-2015, 09:36 AM

So you're basically saying that the cops did their job and guns are for pussies?

Vendzilla · 06-04-2015, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs

As I said if I was in that situation I would have a hard time knowing I killed someone. That's just me. I have never been in that situation and hope I never am. I'm sure it's different when you are.

So to clarify. I was not taught to shot someone in the leg. The torso is where you are taught to shot or the first thing you see in a threat. Whether it's a leg, hand etc...

Anyone with formal training is taught to shoot center mass. Head shots for Bingo Points!

johnnyloadproductions · 06-04-2015, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

So you're basically saying that the cops did their job and guns are for pussies?

You forgot the

Jman · 06-04-2015, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs

I would rather not have the guilt of killing someone hang with me the rest of my life I guess. But that's just me. I was taught that you shot to stop the threat if they are unarmed. When that fails aim for the head.

Zuzana, you are way to smart and your time to valuable to argue with some ol coot who just has that to do in his day.

Colmike9 · 06-04-2015, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

You forgot the

lol, did I?..

ilnjscb · 06-04-2015, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

LOL!!

kane · 06-04-2015, 03:58 PM

So the moral of this story is, "If I hadn't had my gun there and at the ready, this would have turned out exactly the same as it did."

Jel · 06-04-2015, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs

I was an MP in the military and have been to a range 100's of times.

BOOM! Reply of the year right there

JIBCONTENT · 06-04-2015, 06:12 PM

Sounds like you really really wanted to kill someone. Like you have been craving it for a long time. Kinda like I imagine some cops must feel after years (or decades) on the force and never getting a chance to use their service weapon - they must be just DYING for a chance to blow someone away, dreaming about it at night.

If you were as calm as you claim, no raised heartbeat and blast of adrenaline as that door was being pounded in? Then you are a sociopath plain and simple. And the "headshot" thing just means you aren't familiar with standard firearms self defense training.

You see stories all the time about bullets passing through heads and the person doesnt even feel it let alone go down. Also a head is a hard target to hit.

As I said before the odds are vastly in the favor of that intruder taking a shot or two then getting to you and a wrestling match for the gun would ensue - having a gun there would far more likely get your lady friend killed than protect her. The NRA's dirty little secret.

SilentKnight · 06-04-2015, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

In before the Bwassmockery.

mikesouth · 06-04-2015, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

So the moral of this story is, "If I hadn't had my gun there and at the ready, this would have turned out exactly the same as it did."

If thats your teachable moment so be it. To me the moral is that with one stroke of a pen I wouldnt have had the choice to take my destiny into my own hands, id have been left with no choice other than to be a victim if the cops werent there quickly....now imagine instead of a high traffic area we were in a rural area where the cops might not be so nearby...then what? Still think it would have turned out "exactly as it did"?

You wanna cower in a closet and wait for the good guys to come riding up be my guest, but don't attempt to take away my choice to defend myself.

mikesouth · 06-04-2015, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT

Sounds like you really really wanted to kill someone. Like you have been craving it for a long time. Kinda like I imagine some cops must feel after years (or decades) on the force and never getting a chance to use their service weapon - they must be just DYING for a chance to blow someone away, dreaming about it at night.

If you were as calm as you claim, no raised heartbeat and blast of adrenaline as that door was being pounded in? Then you are a sociopath plain and simple. And the "headshot" thing just means you aren't familiar with standard firearms self defense training.

You see stories all the time about bullets passing through heads and the person doesnt even feel it let alone go down. Also a head is a hard target to hit.

As I said before the odds are vastly in the favor of that intruder taking a shot or two then getting to you and a wrestling match for the gun would ensue - having a gun there would far more likely get your lady friend killed than protect her. The NRA's dirty little secret.

and you are a fucking moron....

JIBCONTENT · 06-04-2015, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

and you are a fucking moron....

OK you are entitled to your opinion but the stats are very clear about home break-ins and the overwhelming odds are that by you having a gun you are running the very real risk that you could end up surrendering that gun to the robber.

You ever watch videos of people actually getting shot in altercations? Or have you just seen it in movies? A jacked up on adrenaline human being can take several bullets and still be very functional for a long time. This statement makes you seem as if you watch a lot of action flicks and think that bullets always knock people down:

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

Rest assured I hit him with a .45 even if he is wearing a bullet proof vest it will completely knock him off his feet. I shoot at least weekly at the range I consider that a responsibility for having a concealed carry permit.

Why would a .45 bullet knock him off his feet? It wouldn't. It would most likely pass right through and and not slow his forward momentum at all. You would have to get pretty lucky at that close range and hit his spine or heart to stop him in his tracks. The reality is that you most likely would have been in a struggle for possession of the gun, and if you lost that fight, well then you have a pissed off and possibly mortally wounded maniac who now has a gun in his hand. What do you suppose he's going to do with his last few seconds (or minutes) of his miserable life now that he has your gun? Mathematical odds would far favor that you just got Melissa killed.

Read up on it people - thousands of Americans die for each life that guns save - THOUSANDS. The whole "got my gun for protection" is a scam, a myth. Having a gun in the house means you are hundreds of times more likely to die of bullet holes, or your kids.

The Second Amendment is a dusty relic that needs to be taken out back and shot.

Colmike9 · 06-04-2015, 08:00 PM

It seems like you're just using this to get in that poor girl's pants.. Use your penis, it works better than guns, sir.

JIBCONTENT · 06-04-2015, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

It seems like you're just using this to get in that poor girl's pants.. Use your penis, it works better than guns, sir.

Yea and try training your muscles instead of your chickenshit little finger. Anyone can pull a trigger. How about something that can actually help you and your lady friends - like Jiu Jitsu, Bo Staff, Krav Maga, hell how about a baseball bat.

The reason so many you you gun-tards get killed with your own guns is that guns give you an imaginary sense of security. You WILL have close combat and if you don't prepare your body and mind for an actual FIGHT then you WILL LOSE.

You go to the firing range weekly? What a joke. What exactly does that do for you. Do they tackle you at the firing range and try to take your gun away from you? If not then you could end up just another fool lying in chalk and blood who thought he was a bad ass because he could hit a stationary paper target.

kane · 06-04-2015, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

If thats your teachable moment so be it. To me the moral is that with one stroke of a pen I wouldnt have had the choice to take my destiny into my own hands, id have been left with no choice other than to be a victim if the cops werent there quickly....now imagine instead of a high traffic area we were in a rural area where the cops might not be so nearby...then what? Still think it would have turned out "exactly as it did"?

You wanna cower in a closet and wait for the good guys to come riding up be my guest, but don't attempt to take away my choice to defend myself.

Had he burst through that door you would have likely been fully within your rights to shoot him. However, you could have locked the bedroom door (if it locked) or maybe pushed something in front of it to slow him down, then gone into the bathroom (if the bedroom has a bathroom connected) and done the same. Put two more doors between you and him. If he gets through those two doors he leaves you with no other option, but to shoot. You call it cowering in the bathroom, I call it trying to get through life without having the guilt of shooting someone on my conscious.

Also, was this place on the ground floor? If so could you have gone out the back door?

You likely had other options, but you likely did nothing illegal or even wrong. It is all a matter of choice.

Either way, I can understand what you did. Many people would have done the same, but it seems kind of funny that you pat yourself in the back for not shooting through a door.

kane · 06-04-2015, 08:44 PM

Also, for those curious about shooting this guy in a leg, chest, head or missing him, you should do some live fire training. I don't mean going to the shooting range, but training the police all Con-Sim. These are real world scenarios that often involve gunfire. They use guns that shoot paint bullets (which obviously aren't as accurate as real bullets, but they are pretty damn accurate up to about 20 feet).

You would be shocked how bad your aim is in the heat of the moment when you only have a split second to react and the stress level is high. Bullets end up everywhere and sometimes never in your intended target.

JIBCONTENT · 06-04-2015, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

If thats your teachable moment so be it. To me the moral is that with one stroke of a pen I wouldnt have had the choice to take my destiny into my own hands, id have been left with no choice other than to be a victim if the cops werent there quickly....now imagine instead of a high traffic area we were in a rural area where the cops might not be so nearby...then what? Still think it would have turned out "exactly as it did"?

You wanna cower in a closet and wait for the good guys to come riding up be my guest, but don't attempt to take away my choice to defend myself.

Classic Gun-Pussy thinking: There are 2 options, either cower in a closet or shoot someone.

How about this for a 3rd option: Man up and fight! Break a chair over the guys head as he's coming through the door or hit him with a golf club or a champagne bottle if you're so eager to consider yourself a hero.

So this is your motto, your credo, your regurgitated bad mofo rules to live by huh:

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

Three rules for me
1 treat every gun as if it is loaded
2 never point your gun at anything you do not intend to kill
3 once you point it never hesitate to pull the trigger

Once you point it at someone...WTF?

Never hesitate Killer Mike NEVER! Some unarmed 16 year old comin in looking for weed or beer money KILL HIM you're a stone cold KILLER!

...

sandman! · 06-04-2015, 09:17 PM

lol i was wondering when the anti gun people were going to post some bullshit

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Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT

OK you are entitled to your opinion but the stats are very clear about home break-ins and the overwhelming odds are that by you having a gun you are running the very real risk that you could end up surrendering that gun to the robber.

You ever watch videos of people actually getting shot in altercations? Or have you just seen it in movies? A jacked up on adrenaline human being can take several bullets and still be very functional for a long time. This statement makes you seem as if you watch a lot of action flicks and think that bullets always knock people down:

Why would a .45 bullet knock him off his feet? It wouldn't. It would most likely pass right through and and not slow his forward momentum at all. You would have to get pretty lucky at that close range and hit his spine or heart to stop him in his tracks. The reality is that you most likely would have been in a struggle for possession of the gun, and if you lost that fight, well then you have a pissed off and possibly mortally wounded maniac who now has a gun in his hand. What do you suppose he's going to do with his last few seconds (or minutes) of his miserable life now that he has your gun? Mathematical odds would far favor that you just got Melissa killed.

Read up on it people - thousands of Americans die for each life that guns save - THOUSANDS. The whole "got my gun for protection" is a scam, a myth. Having a gun in the house means you are hundreds of times more likely to die of bullet holes, or your kids.

The Second Amendment is a dusty relic that needs to be taken out back and shot.

Jim_Gunn · 06-04-2015, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT

I'm glad things went that way and you are a pretty brave dude.

And yes you may have killed him, or you may have got a bullet or 2 into him while he charged you and got your gun away from you - this is actually the far more likely scenario statistically.

Thats the NRA's dirtiest little secret and the fact they try to suppress the hardest: Gun owners are far FAR more likely to be killed by an intruder who has taken their gun away from them than they are to successfully defend themselves.

These type of often quoted anti-gun rights aggregate statistics- even in the rare instances when they are true- are often irrelevant to an individual gun owner. For example, gun control people are quick to tell you that guns are often used in the home by family members in domestic disputes and that you are more likely to be shot with a gun by someone who lives in your own house than by a stranger or that your children are at risk for getting access to your gun and killing themselves or a sibling. But so what? I live by myself, scare mongering statistics like that don't apply to me and the loaded gun I keep within arms reach.

kane · 06-05-2015, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

These type of often quoted anti-gun rights aggregate statistics- even in the rare instances when they are true- are often irrelevant to an individual gun owner. For example, gun control people are quick to tell you that guns are often used in the home by family members in domestic disputes and that you are more likely to be shot with a gun by someone who lives in your own house than by a stranger or that your children are at risk for getting access to your gun and killing themselves or a sibling. But so what? I live by myself, scare mongering statistics like that don't apply to me and the loaded gun I keep within arms reach.

Personally, I would never want to live somewhere where I am so afraid I need to keep a loaded gun within arms reach of me at all times.

I think these stats are meant to scare people into not owning guns (although some may wish they did), but they are meant to make things more realistic. Some people allow guns to give them a false sense of security and these stats shed a little light on that.

Mickey_ · 06-05-2015, 02:37 AM

JIBCONTENT · 06-05-2015, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

These type of often quoted anti-gun rights aggregate statistics- even in the rare instances when they are true- are often irrelevant to an individual gun owner. For example, gun control people are quick to tell you that guns are often used in the home by family members in domestic disputes and that you are more likely to be shot with a gun by someone who lives in your own house than by a stranger or that your children are at risk for getting access to your gun and killing themselves or a sibling. But so what? I live by myself, scare mongering statistics like that don't apply to me and the loaded gun I keep within arms reach.

"even in the rare instances when they are true" they are true in every state, every county, every city, every year.

What you call "Stats" intelligent people know to be Reality.

What you call "Scare Mongering" logical thinking people know to be straight up FACT.

FACT: The loaded gun you keep within arms reach is FAR more likely to kill YOU than an intruder. (and that's not including suicide or accident rates, just gun owner vs intruder)

It's backward enough to have the need to have a loaded gun within arms reach but Concealed Carry? What the fuck is this the wild west where anyone at anytime can murder anyone for any reason? With the incredibly high rates of depression, alcoholism, opiate addiction, mental illness, road rage, and just plain old dumfuckedness why the fuck are we handing out concealed carry permits to ANYONE let alone guys like MikeSouth who think it's heroic to be ready to kill without any critical thought, raised heartbeat, or rush of adrenaline. "Hey if I point my gun at somethin I gotta kill it"

TheSquealer · 06-05-2015, 05:31 AM

Mike south is a hero. Somehow all he did was name drop a MILF porn star that sought him out of course because she doesn't know any real tough guys and the he went to sleep in her place because as a fat old slob, he's got good game and thankfully, because he "controls his gun"(as if that makes any sense) and he's a hero. What a self important dipshit.

Moral of the story?

Mike South is a selfless hero.

When MILF pornstars get scared, they call Mike South to protect them because he is a hero.

Call the police because they'll come in 2 minutes.... no need to call Mike South

You don't need writing ability, grammar and punctuation or decent spelling to delude yourself into believing you're a writer.

The Internet is a tool for attention seeking losers.

SuckOnThis · 06-05-2015, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sandman!

lol i was wondering when the anti gun people were going to post some bullshit

As opposed to a pro-gun person making up some bullshit story?

TheSquealer · 06-05-2015, 05:37 AM

"I controlled my gun" - how does anyone not see the insanity of that statement?

baggg · 06-05-2015, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT

"even in the rare instances when they are true" they are true in every state, every county, every city, every year.

What you call "Stats" intelligent people know to be Reality.

What you call "Scare Mongering" logical thinking people know to be straight up FACT.

FACT: The loaded gun you keep within arms reach is FAR more likely to kill YOU than an intruder. (and that's not including suicide or accident rates, just gun owner vs intruder)

It's backward enough to have the need to have a loaded gun within arms reach but Concealed Carry? What the fuck is this the wild west where anyone at anytime can murder anyone for any reason? With the incredibly high rates of depression, alcoholism, opiate addiction, mental illness, road rage, and just plain old dumfuckedness why the fuck are we handing out concealed carry permits to ANYONE let alone guys like MikeSouth who think it's heroic to be ready to kill without any critical thought, raised heartbeat, or rush of adrenaline. "Hey if I point my gun at somethin I gotta kill it"

We got a real mangina here everyone

MaDalton · 06-05-2015, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

These type of often quoted anti-gun rights aggregate statistics- even in the rare instances when they are true- are often irrelevant to an individual gun owner. For example, gun control people are quick to tell you that guns are often used in the home by family members in domestic disputes and that you are more likely to be shot with a gun by someone who lives in your own house than by a stranger or that your children are at risk for getting access to your gun and killing themselves or a sibling. But so what? I live by myself, scare mongering statistics like that don't apply to me and the loaded gun I keep within arms reach.

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Originally Posted by kane

Personally, I would never want to live somewhere where I am so afraid I need to keep a loaded gun within arms reach of me at all times.

I think these stats are meant to scare people into not owning guns (although some may wish they did), but they are meant to make things more realistic. Some people allow guns to give them a false sense of security and these stats shed a little light on that.

that's the amusing part for me here - i read all the time how the country I live in is considered "eastern europe" (with a negative slant), people here called "euro trash" and the overall impression is that here it would be dangerous and backwards.

probably the same people that think Eurotrip and Hostel are documentaries

at the same time no one here would ever even remotely get the idea that one needs a loaded gun in arms reach

and gun laws here are pretty liberal compared to the rest of europe:
Gun politics in the Czech Republic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

still hardly anyone ever gets one

So I assume Czech people have a death wish and don't care about protecting their families

baggg · 06-05-2015, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

that's the amusing part for me here - i read all the time how the country I live in is considered "eastern europe" (with a negative slant), people here called "euro trash" and the overall impression is that here it would be dangerous and backwards.

probably the same people that think Eurotrip and Hostel are documentaries

at the same time no one here would ever even remotely get the idea that one needs a loaded gun in arms reach

and gun laws here are pretty liberal compared to the rest of europe:
Gun politics in the Czech Republic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

still hardly anyone ever gets one

So I assume Czech people have a death wish and don't care about protecting their families

Sssshhh,they dont need to know that.Just let them have that illusion that central euro is a place with no laws and people riding horses.This helps to keep the stupid and uneducated out.

MaDalton · 06-05-2015, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by baggg

Sssshhh,they dont need to know that.Just let them have that illusion that central euro is a place with no laws and people riding horses.This helps to keep the stupid and uneducated out.

good point, sorry

Grapesoda · 06-05-2015, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by baggg

Sssshhh,they dont need to know that.Just let them have that illusion that central euro is a place with no laws and people riding horses.This helps to keep the stupid and uneducated out.

JIBCONTENT · 06-05-2015, 07:50 AM

In the United States, annual deaths resulting from firearms total:

2013: 33,636
2012: 33,563
2011: 32,351
2010: 31,672
2009: 31,347
2008: 31,593
2007: 31,224
2006: 30,896
2005: 30,694
2004: 29,569
2003: 30,136
2002: 30,242
2001: 29,573
2000: 28,663
1999: 28,874

HOLE E SHIT So we lose more people to guns in 24 months than we lost in all of the Vietnam War.

Gun Deaths now surpass even the car crash death toll.

Ok all you Scardy Cat Gun-Pussies afraid of your own shadow ask yourself this question: Of all that carnage how many of those killed do you think are bad guys taken out during the commission of a crime or assault annually? 50? 100? 500? And even that number is absurdly high only because the NRA's push to make guns accessible to any murder-nut that wants one no matter how deranged.

More than 30,000 deaths each year and just a handful of "good guys with a gun stopping bad guys with a gun" This wacko needs to be incarcerated:

I say it's time to END the NRA

dyna mo · 06-05-2015, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT

OK you are entitled to your opinion but the stats are very clear about home break-ins and the overwhelming odds are that by you having a gun you are running the very real risk that you could end up surrendering that gun to the robber.

where are these very clear stats and overwhelming odds? they are not on the internet, are you hiding them somehwere?

dyna mo · 06-05-2015, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT

In the United States, annual deaths resulting from firearms total:

2013: 33,636
2012: 33,563
2011: 32,351
2010: 31,672
2009: 31,347
2008: 31,593
2007: 31,224
2006: 30,896
2005: 30,694
2004: 29,569
2003: 30,136
2002: 30,242
2001: 29,573
2000: 28,663
1999: 28,874

HOLE E SHIT So we lose more people to guns in 24 months than we lost in all of the Vietnam War.

Gun Deaths now surpass even the car crash death toll.

Ok all you Scardy Cat Gun-Pussies afraid of your own shadow ask yourself this question: Of all that carnage how many of those killed do you think are bad guys taken out during the commission of a crime or assault annually? 50? 100? 500? And even that number is absurdly high only because the NRA's push to make guns accessible to any murder-nut that wants one no matter how deranged.

More than 30,000 deaths each year and just a handful of "good guys with a gun stopping bad guys with a gun" This wacko needs to be incarcerated:

I say it's time to END the NRA

those #s are insanely overinflated, by 3-4x. according to the agency that keeps track

FBI Expanded Homicide Data Table 8

JIBCONTENT · 06-05-2015, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

where are these very clear stats and overwhelming odds? they are not on the internet, are you hiding them somehwere?

Aw how cute, a first time search engine user

dyna mo · 06-05-2015, 08:07 AM

Suicides by gun accounted for about six of every 10 firearm deaths in 2010 and just over half of all suicides, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Since the CDC began publishing data in 1981, gun suicides have outnumbered gun homicides. But as gun homicides have declined sharply in recent years, suicides have become a greater share of all firearm deaths: the 61% share in 2010 was the highest on record.

Suicides account for most gun deaths | Pew Research Center

dyna mo · 06-05-2015, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT

Aw how cute, a first time search engine user

ah, how cute, someone who's been asked a reasonable request for proof of stats chooses to make it personal and can't even provide an official documented proof.

im not surprised you are so confused here.

dyna mo · 06-05-2015, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT

Aw how cute, a first time search engine user

so again, since you're so clever here, where are these very clear and overwhelming stats you refer to?

regardless of how many times i've used a search engine.

JIBCONTENT · 06-05-2015, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

those #s are insanely overinflated, by 3-4x. according to the agency that keeps track

THE agency that keeps track? So you cite numbers collected by a US Government agency? An agency the bulk of which are of NRA Gun Owners? The same Government that the NRA spends millions to lobby and contribute to the campaigns to get elected (or appoint)Pro-Gun officials? What a joke - also those numbers don't include accidents or suicides (no not all the people who shot themselves would have found another way to die)

I personally knew 4 people who would probably be alive today if there wasn't as easy gun within reach in the house (including Earl Millers teen son RIP)

I'm out of this thread, have fun with your guns chickenshits

dyna mo · 06-05-2015, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT

THE agency that keeps track? So you cite numbers collected by a US Government agency? An agency the bulk of which are of NRA Gun Owners? The same Government that the NRA spends millions to lobby and contribute to the campaigns to get elected (or appoint)Pro-Gun officials? What a joke - also those numbers don't include accidents or suicides (no not all the people who shot themselves would have found another way to die)

I personally knew 4 people who would probably be alive today if there wasn't as easy gun within reach in the house (including Earl Millers teen son RIP)

I'm out of this thread, have fun with your guns chickenshits

so instead of easily backing up your comments with statistics, you impugn actual real statistics.

and then you try and support your lack of information by exclaiming personal anecdotal tales and tall stories.

i'm not surprised you are leaving the thread.

mission accomplished.

BlackCrayon · 06-05-2015, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

Personally, I would never want to live somewhere where I am so afraid I need to keep a loaded gun within arms reach of me at all times.

I think these stats are meant to scare people into not owning guns (although some may wish they did), but they are meant to make things more realistic. Some people allow guns to give them a false sense of security and these stats shed a little light on that.

sounds like living a life of paranoid fears that will probably never happen.

JIBCONTENT · 06-05-2015, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

so instead of easily backing up your comments with statistics, you impugn actual real statistics.

and then you try and support your lack of information by exclaiming personal anecdotal tales and tall stories.

i'm not surprised you are leaving the thread.

mission accomplished.

The internet has many studies that fully support the claims I made here. Yes the odds are overwhelmingly higher that you or a family member will die BECAUSE you are a gun owner as opposed to a non-gun family. Anyone with access to Google can find this info.

You are questioning MY use of stats and you make the entirely fictitious claim that the numbers I cited are overinflated by 3-4x and you conveniently FORGOT that those are ONLY Homicides and don't include accidents and suicide? I never said anything about Homicides, only gun deaths. Go back to school and learn some basic reading comprehension skills Dyna Mo. I'm out

dyna mo · 06-05-2015, 08:41 AM

oh, look who said he's out, but is back, and without even 1 single link corroborating his wild claims.

Far-L · 06-05-2015, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

that's the amusing part for me here - i read all the time how the country I live in is considered "eastern europe" (with a negative slant), people here called "euro trash" and the overall impression is that here it would be dangerous and backwards.

probably the same people that think Eurotrip and Hostel are documentaries

at the same time no one here would ever even remotely get the idea that one needs a loaded gun in arms reach

and gun laws here are pretty liberal compared to the rest of europe:
Gun politics in the Czech Republic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

still hardly anyone ever gets one

So I assume Czech people have a death wish and don't care about protecting their families

No, you just have so many "super hot woman that want the man to make hard sex in the ass" that the frustration and anger that leads to crime is dissipated. At least that is what they teach us in 'merica.

06-04-2015, 09:18 AM	#54
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06-04-2015, 09:36 AM	#57
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06-04-2015, 08:00 PM	#70
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06-05-2015, 02:37 AM	#78
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06-05-2015, 05:37 AM	#82
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06-04-2015, 03:58 PM	#63
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	So the moral of this story is, "If I hadn't had my gun there and at the ready, this would have turned out exactly the same as it did."

06-04-2015, 06:12 PM	#65
JIBCONTENT Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 331	Sounds like you really really wanted to kill someone. Like you have been craving it for a long time. Kinda like I imagine some cops must feel after years (or decades) on the force and never getting a chance to use their service weapon - they must be just DYING for a chance to blow someone away, dreaming about it at night. If you were as calm as you claim, no raised heartbeat and blast of adrenaline as that door was being pounded in? Then you are a sociopath plain and simple. And the "headshot" thing just means you aren't familiar with standard firearms self defense training. You see stories all the time about bullets passing through heads and the person doesnt even feel it let alone go down. Also a head is a hard target to hit. As I said before the odds are vastly in the favor of that intruder taking a shot or two then getting to you and a wrestling match for the gun would ensue - having a gun there would far more likely get your lady friend killed than protect her. The NRA's dirty little secret.

06-04-2015, 08:44 PM	#73
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Also, for those curious about shooting this guy in a leg, chest, head or missing him, you should do some live fire training. I don't mean going to the shooting range, but training the police all Con-Sim. These are real world scenarios that often involve gunfire. They use guns that shoot paint bullets (which obviously aren't as accurate as real bullets, but they are pretty damn accurate up to about 20 feet). You would be shocked how bad your aim is in the heat of the moment when you only have a split second to react and the stress level is high. Bullets end up everywhere and sometimes never in your intended target.

06-05-2015, 05:31 AM	#80
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,069	Mike south is a hero. Somehow all he did was name drop a MILF porn star that sought him out of course because she doesn't know any real tough guys and the he went to sleep in her place because as a fat old slob, he's got good game and thankfully, because he "controls his gun"(as if that makes any sense) and he's a hero. What a self important dipshit. Moral of the story? Mike South is a selfless hero. When MILF pornstars get scared, they call Mike South to protect them because he is a hero. Call the police because they'll come in 2 minutes.... no need to call Mike South You don't need writing ability, grammar and punctuation or decent spelling to delude yourself into believing you're a writer. The Internet is a tool for attention seeking losers.

06-05-2015, 07:50 AM	#88
JIBCONTENT Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 331	In the United States, annual deaths resulting from firearms total: 2013: 33,636 2012: 33,563 2011: 32,351 2010: 31,672 2009: 31,347 2008: 31,593 2007: 31,224 2006: 30,896 2005: 30,694 2004: 29,569 2003: 30,136 2002: 30,242 2001: 29,573 2000: 28,663 1999: 28,874 HOLE E SHIT So we lose more people to guns in 24 months than we lost in all of the Vietnam War. Gun Deaths now surpass even the car crash death toll. Ok all you Scardy Cat Gun-Pussies afraid of your own shadow ask yourself this question: Of all that carnage how many of those killed do you think are bad guys taken out during the commission of a crime or assault annually? 50? 100? 500? And even that number is absurdly high only because the NRA's push to make guns accessible to any murder-nut that wants one no matter how deranged. More than 30,000 deaths each year and just a handful of "good guys with a gun stopping bad guys with a gun" This wacko needs to be incarcerated: I say it's time to END the NRA

06-05-2015, 08:07 AM	#92
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,903	Suicides by gun accounted for about six of every 10 firearm deaths in 2010 and just over half of all suicides, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Since the CDC began publishing data in 1981, gun suicides have outnumbered gun homicides. But as gun homicides have declined sharply in recent years, suicides have become a greater share of all firearm deaths: the 61% share in 2010 was the highest on record. Suicides account for most gun deaths \| Pew Research Center

06-05-2015, 08:41 AM	#99
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,903	oh, look who said he's out, but is back, and without even 1 single link corroborating his wild claims.