TangibleAsset

Yeah, I took a vacation to Tahiti a few weeks ago. What does that have to do with anything? Just because you don't have an answer for my questions doesn't make me a troll.

jscott

Not sure if he murdered the women he sexually assaulted, he seems to have paid her off though so I don't think he murdered her


..as for the animals he has killed, he is a murderer there, I totally agree with you **********

SuckOnThis

We should make it legal for assholes like this to hunt each other.

jscott

What a piece of fucking shit, omg

VikingMan

I would never shoot a lion or harm one in way but some of you cunts are taking this way too far. Do you cunts realize that you can legally buy lion meat in the USA? So no doubt you dumb cunts are going to protest and change the laws. Right? Of course you won't lift a finger to change the laws because you're a bunch of dumb emotional cunts. The people who made this a big story are pissed because he shot a particular lion not the fact that he killed a lion.

jscott

Vikingman, you obviously cannot read. It's the point of "hunting for game", or "mistreatment/abuse/torture of animals" (at least those are my problems)

Eat meat, go ahead, the world will never change about that. But cant it be done humanely?

As for hunting for fun/game, that is probably 1 of the worst things people do in the world, i guess that is why it's fact that people who intend to kill/hunt/torture animals for fun/game are more likely to become rapists, child molesters and murderers... FACT

so qft

dyna mo

Hey dumbfuck stoner fuckwad, it was an illegal kill.

VikingMan

so if it was a legal kill and if the lion died immediately without suffering then it would be okay? I personally cannot kill any animal. I ran over a bunny rabbit last week and even feel bad about that.

Bladewire

When you look into the mentality/psychology of dentists you see they are either sadistic and enjoy giving pain to strangers, or they are failed wanna be physicians delegated by poor grades to being veterinarians or dentists, creating envy, leading to low self esteem, that can only be satisfied by creating the illusion of dominating/killing something perceived as greater than themselves.

Napoleon syndrome. Sad

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Many animals do not just lay down and die; I know many a deer hunter that wishes that was the case. I highly doubt he took pleasure in having to track blood splatters for two days to catch up to him.

astronaut x

You are an idiot. Why? Before asking a question (especially one so moronic) read up on the subject. Make yourself informed before relying on other mostly uninformed people to "answer" your questions.

First of all, the fact you don't understand the outrage over this is a problem. Since you now say you are not defending him, your first reply to this thread should have read..." I am dumb, and lazy. "

Stop with the argument about donating to preserves. The animal was a "celebrity." The animal brought in money from tourism. The preserve will stand to lose millions now.

All of the lions's offspring will most likely be killed by the new pride leader.

They led the animal out of the preserve. Then they just drove up to it and shot it with an arrow and it ran off. They had to search for it, and then finally shoot it. The animal was used to vehicles driving up to it, and around it. Where is the thrill of the hunt? I don't have a problem with hunting, and I don't have a problem with hunting rifles, but this was not hunting.

There is a reason for the outrage. Fuck that guy. I hope he has a lot of pride showing that trophy off to all his friends and family. I hope he soon realizes there are other dentists in his area that his patients can go to as well.

aka123

This "majestic" stuff is just hypocrisy. The real deal is just the endangered status and maybe if it would be smart enough.

Who would save the rats? Not majestic enough? Might even be smarter animals than lions.

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astronaut x

Why are you nitpicking? The poster obviously agrees with you. Why go PC? Rats? Give me a break.

Would you call a rabbit majestic? How about a fish? There is nothing wrong with using the term "majestic."

aka123

My whole point is that this majestic stuff is irrelevant from conservation point of view. Differentiating animals like that is real problem from the view of conservation as many species get extinct because those are not cute or majestic. There is nothing wrong in killing majestic animals, nada. It is fucking irrelevant factor. Relevant factor for lion is its highly endangered status.

So, who would save the rats?

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Yeah, I'm the idiot.

Paul Markham

Then do it with a laser gun, camera, or whatever doesn't kill the animal. The thrill is in killing a helpless innocent animal. As the photos show.

He's killed loads of endangered species.

Then kill it with a machine gun, to make sure there's no chance of it walking away.

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This is all about the thrill of killing. Stalking or getting a "kill" shot can be done without the need to kill the animal. His obsession is clear, he wants to kill as many different animals as possible.

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astronaut x

And this means? Can't wait to hear it.

In another post you cry because nobody was answering your questions. I did and this is all you could come up with as a response?

Pathetic.

TeenCat

hope someone will kick his teeth out of his mouth and he will lost all his clients asap ... fucking dick, deserves to be shot by crossbow, beaten to death, chopped his head and taken off his skin ... just as a warning for all those other fucked up animals wearing human skin ... fucking dick!

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Hunting includes having prey. Ask the lion, it knows.

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And I agree. However, I don't see the point for calling someone out for using the term. If by using the term, it lights a fire under someones ass and they click on your sig, why would you have a problem with that? Are you saying Lions are not "majestic?" Are you saying rats are?

When an orangutang walks, would say he walks "majestically?" Its simply a term used as a description. It's not going to make the rats endangered.

By the way, using your method of thinking... you should change the picture in your sig, to lets say, maybe a rat? I mean, by focusing on your chosen animal, people will forget about the other animals and they might become extinct or something.

I'm not going to argue with you. It would be more productive to agree that we are on the same side of the issue and move on. No need to nitpick about things that really make no sense. Majestic, beautiful, graceful, clumsy, wonky, dorky.... cute. Descriptors of the English language.

astronaut x

What is your point?

If you were to ask a lion, it would say that it hunts for food and survival, not to get it's dick hard, or in this case, pussy wet.

aka123

It wasn't about "majestic" per se if you didn't get it. It was about how this kind of classification is nonsense in conservation. I just replied to what L-pink wrote; I don't know his whole view into this and as this is a forum it wasn't reply just to him, as hopefully can be seen from the message too.

In this thread you can see very sadistic and cruel people replying to this subject (wishing all kinds of shit for that dentist). I don't think that development of that kind of behavior or people altogether is good for anyone. People alienating from nature isn't good for conservation.

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UPDATE

Maybe some of you have seen this....

A police official in Zimbabwe said that two Zimbabweans had been arrested in the case and that police were looking for Palmer.

U.S. dentist wanted for killing Cecil the lion - CNN.com

astronaut x

aka123

Lion is a predator as are we. As a predator it likes to hunt. You know; we have reward system for things those promote survival. You get satisfaction from eating, sex, etc., and most people/ other predators; from hunting too. Well, at least they would if they wouldn't be so alienated from nature. But many of those still fulfill their hunting behavior in a way or another, successfully or not.

I guess you eat too as you are alive, for food/survival and maybe for a enjoyment too. Making a hired kill doesn't really make that much difference, at least end result wise. Also, I don't know is that good direction for humankind if we are ashamed about what we are and are trying to push it as far from us as we can.

So, if that hunt was easy for Palmer; I guess the chicken wings, etc. you eat were even easier for you. And one chicken has only pair of wings. So in one chicken wing meal there a shit load of dead chickens. Multiple hired kills or however should this outsourcing be called for.

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astronaut x

Chicken wings are endangered? Oh no!!

I fully support protecting endangered species, as you do, but your general logic is..

aka123

You commented hunting in general and not just about lions as do have many other people too.

You replied to this.

"Hunting includes having prey. Ask the lion, it knows."


Each time you eat something and hopefully not for god's sake for enjoyment and surely not in excess (for fat); something has to die. So eating for enjoyment requires killing.. for enjoyment if we follow that analogy we have seen in this thread. If it is just for enjoyment, does it really make any difference that does the killed thing end as a rug or in your mouth? And let's keep the endangered animals out of this.

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C H R I S

I bet he loved every minute of it. Look at the smirk on his face in the pictures.

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Jman

Guy was sentenced to 1 year probation for lying about the place he killed a bear. He's guilty as sin and anyone who can't see this, well... Yeah let's just say they are blind as a sheep, to be polite

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baddog

You are dumber than I remember; were you hospitalized while you were gone?

Really? Smirk? Do you know the difference between a smirk and a smile?

Plutocracy

I agree!

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Who cares, your splitting hairs.

So you support this guys right to kill endangered species?

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I hope he dies a slow horrible death...

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TangibleAsset

It means that consciuos is spelled conscious. You didn't answer my question at all, you just did some name calling.

I understand the circumstances surrounding this are questionable but I doubt someone would spend $55,000 to go on an illegal hunt when you can do it legally in South Africa for only $12,000.

Everyone wants to ignore all the quotes I posted on page 1 regarding big game hunting funding animal conservations so we can skip that because apparently it's "bullshit" and Zoologists, government officials, and people from animal conservation non-profits like the WWF aren't legitimate sources. My real question that you did NOT answer was:

Just Alex

He can kiss his dental practice goodbye for now.

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Jman

HE PAID 55k and THEY LURED the animal out of the protect reserve and THEY TRIED TO DESTROY is GPS. It's not about people ignoring your quotes it's about YOU Being blind to the FACTS.

He also was convicted of lying about the area he killed a bear and was given 3k fine + 1 year probation in the past.

To make it simple for you to understand, cause I really think you can't see clear on this. If it walks like a duke, quacks like a duck... it's a fucking duck

Stop making a fool of yourself and do some reading about this guys past

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TangibleAsset

Yes exactly, he paid $55,000. Do you really think he would pay 55k to do it illegally when he can do it legally for a fraction of the price? It doesn't make any fucking sense now, does it? Quit being so fucking emotional.

VikingMan

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If you guys want to get your estrogen under control and actually do something about the plight of lions then you might want to figure out a way to reduce the population of sub-saharan Africa because that is the number one threat to lions. Lions are not going to become extinct because middle aged white moronic dentists go over and shoot a few. By far the biggest problem is habitat destruction and shit stains in Africa who poach these animals. Since 1980 the number of lions has been cut in half and in the next 30 years the population of sub-saharan Africa is projected to double. This asshole in Minnesota is getting all the attention because he's white and from the USA and we all know white people are evil.

Slappin Fish

not that I'm defending the troll but Tahiti is Bora Bora, Papeete... expensive place, you might have it confused with Haiti.

dyna mo

The Oxford University researchers who have studied the lions where Cecil lived found that trophy hunting just outside the national park had "an alarming impact on lion numbers and population structure within the park."

"Each removal of a male lion by hunters on the borders of the park created a 'territorial vacuum' which drew males from further inside the protected area into boundary areas, where they too became vulnerable to hunters," the university said.

A complete moratorium on trophy hunting around the park between 2005 and 2008 coincided with a 50% increase in the lion population there, the researchers noted.

Trophy hunting restarted in 2009 but with close monitoring by the Oxford research team, Zimbabwean authorities and other groups to ensure its impact on the lion population was sustainable.

Studies have shown that with these big, lavish hunts, only 3% to 5% of the income from that hunt actually ends up for local people on the ground where the hunt happens,"

"There are much better ways to earn this kind of money -- revenue from nature tourism, where the animal's not killed, brings in three to 15 times what's brought in from these trophy hunts in Africa,"

Now that Cecil is dead, the next lion in the hierarchy, Jericho will most likely kill all Cecil's cubs so that he can insert his own bloodline into the females," the Zimbabwe Conservation Force said.

WildCRU: balancing the needs of conservation and local people | Department of Zoology, University of Oxford

Jman

He paid 55k cause he was TARGETING THAT SPECIFIC Lion.

It's not about being emotional it's about being able to see what happen here. Tell me why would he have paid 55k if he could of killed any other Lion for less. YOU my friend don't make an ounce of sense

BTW watch this https://www.facebook.com/JimmyKimmel...3479460798374/

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Slappin Fish

Who cares if I burn stacks of tires in my back yard it's nothin compared to what comes out of exhausts...

Who cares If I fish with dynamite, fish aren't going to become extinct because webmasters like myself go over and throw a fewsticks, by far the biggest threat to.... blah blah...

There is always a clever one who comes up with that fucking argument. The attention this asshole is getting is fully deserved. Period.

dyna mo

you know that thread you started about your weed addiction problem? you need to realize you've got a bigger problem.

VikingMan

yes I smoke a lot of weed but even through this thick cloud of smoke I can clearly see that the sad situaton these animals are in will not be dealt with simply because people don't want to admit that the people running the countries in sub-saharan Africa are not doing and good job to protect these animals. it is so much easier and politically expedient to point the finger at a dentist. The people in Zimbabwe can't even manage to grow food.

brassmonkey

cecil is a turtles name! sum are you are fuking nuts! killing is your solution? really?

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dyna mo

combining two issues. this has nothing to do with growing food in zimbabwe

the issue here is that the shooter most certainly knew of the implications, issues, problems, risks and concerns of trophy hunting lions on the border of that park. $55k to shoot there v $12k elsewhere, why do you think that is? becuase of those risks involved. the fucking very lion he killed was wearing a tracking collar to study that very problem. the tracking collar the shooter left behind after he continued with his trophy collecting by cutting off the lion's head and skin and taking both of those with him. but he dindu nuffins, it was the other guy.

VikingMan

I think we all agree this guy is a scumbag. my point is the anger most people have in the situation and the attention this guy is getting is due to an emotional reaction to a lion being killed. This is the exact same gripe I have with the middle aged hysterical hens who freak out the moment they see a dog in a car. The vast majority of these hens will never lift a finger to become involved in dog rescue. Their version of dog rescue is being a parking lot drama queen and scolding people for leaving their dog in a car for a few minutes. Meanwhile the people who bring their dogs with them everywhere they go tend to be the best dog owners. The basket case emotional estrogen fueled reaction to seeing a dog in a car does absolutely nothing to help animals it just serves to make the stupid humans feel better about themselves. They can go home and tell the story and act like heroes. In this situation people can make posts calling for the head of this dentist and it will do next to nothing to help the plight of African lions.

dyna mo

i think that, like myself, many are commenting on this because of the carelessness and senselessness in this.

i know i am not emotionally vested in that lion.

C H R I S

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