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bigmeezy941 · 08-20-2015, 09:45 AM

Ive been gone for a while, but one thing will never change huh GET TRAFFIC....You GET SALES

The Porn Nerd · 08-20-2015, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Porn Nerd, Thanks for the compliment! Much respect to you and what you have done and I agree with your assessment of cost vs return on content.

However, need to point out, we don't shoot content at all. These days about 90% of our content is user submissions and we typically do not accept "studio" amateur content. We have a couple "producers" that turn in scenes if and when we need something specific for a dvd title or for cable/sat, but everything else is pretty much swinger home video type stuff, tripods or handheld, the real deal amateur.

These days I get hit up almost daily by "producers" saying they can shoot "amateur" scenes for us and I take one look at their samples and I think many here would say it is great content but I know it won't work for us at all. If there is a cameraman then most of our audience will call bullshit on it being amateur, unless it is obviously the hubby or whatever and gets in on the action too.

We do buy "filler content" that is pro-am but we have to be very clear with the members what it is or they get pissed.

Ah ok, user submitted mostly. Well even MORE kudos to you then because that means your eye for choosing REAL "amateur" content is stellar.

Funny, when I was filming my own (totally shitty, poorly lit and shaky cam) scenes I was killing it. LOL I would do it again but I just don't want my five inches of fun on the Internet anymore. :D

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Originally Posted by Relentless

Onlytease has very good content but I honestly believe the name hurts the brand. Its a restrictive name and a huge part of flirting or teasing is not knowing if that's all that will happen. I'd be very interested to see a clone of that content on a domain like Flirt.xxx or another more open sounding brand name. To me OnlyTease sounds like 'that's all she does' and it weakens the fantasy.

Just my 2cents (offered in a very constructive way so please don't go psycho in your reply as I'm actually trying to be helpful).

EXCELLENT point! (And I have OnlyTease.com in my Members Area so I'm an affiliate of theirs.) This is what I mean when I say "tell a good story and the content almost doesn't matter." If the content is presented in a way that communicates what the surfer expects (and is hoping for) then you have a much better chance of selling to that person. So names/branding is perhaps THE most important aspect of story telling. It's where everything flows from.

Give me a good domain name and a coherant storyline and I feel I can sell anything.

Shap · 08-20-2015, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bigmeezy941

Ive been gone for a while, but one thing will never change huh GET TRAFFIC....You GET SALES

It always starts with traffic. No doubt about that. But I'll tell you what it was a lot easier to get traffic to Twistys when we converted at 1:750 vs 1:2000. That is where it gets tricky. More traffic = more sales but without decent converting content and tools in place getting more traffic is increasingly harder and more expensive to acquire.

bigmeezy941 · 08-20-2015, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Ah ok, user submitted mostly. Well even MORE kudos to you then because that means your eye for choosing REAL "amateur" content is stellar.

Funny, when I was filming my own (totally shitty, poorly lit and shaky cam) scenes I was killing it. LOL I would do it again but I just don't want my five inches of fun on the Internet anymore. :D

EXCELLENT point! (And I have OnlyTease.com in my Members Area so I'm an affiliate of theirs.) This is what I mean when I say "tell a good story and the content almost doesn't matter." If the content is presented in a way that communicates what the surfer expects (and is hoping for) then you have a much better chance of selling to that person. So names/branding is perhaps THE most important aspect of story telling. It's where everything flows from.

Give me a good domain name and a coherant storyline and I feel I can sell anything.

Ya for real... a nice splash entry page will fool any surfer to signup...but then they signup and theres like 200 pics and 50 vids oops haha shit long as I get the sign up im cool.....but paysites never was my thing, I hate to deal with chargebacks and updating content...ill leave paysites up to the big tycoons.....that's time I could be using to promote my other sites

Relentless · 08-20-2015, 10:30 AM

For the people who like to say 'traffic is all that matters'..... Everything you do IS traffic. It's a misnomer to suggest something done is not about getting traffic. A great domain/brand gets you traffic. Quality affiliates get you traffic. Niche leading content gets you traffic. Buying traffic gets you traffic. For fucks-sake, I can't think of much I do in a day that doesn't in some way tie into acquiring more traffic B2C or more traffic and connections B2B.

Yes you will always earn more with good traffic and bad content than with no traffic and the best content... but the best content will on its own almost bring in additional traffic, and the best branding will as well. Take a look at Ruseful and it is obvious that the content is what drove much of the tube traffic to his sites. How much traffic did he get by creating niche leading content? If you ask him he will tell you 'almost all of it.' Meanwhile another client of mine with a huge site and massive traffic is about to rebrand itself as perhaps the best 4 letter domain in the history of adult. Why would they do that if they already have massive traffic? Because doing it will lead to them getting even more traffic.

Saying just focus on traffic is a platitude, but 'focus on traffic' really means focus on branding, content, relationships, networking, media buying, domaining, PR, SEO, Social, Mobile, VR, Emailing, and all the rest... because at the end of the day that all leads to more traffic.

bigmeezy941 · 08-20-2015, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

It always starts with traffic. No doubt about that. But I'll tell you what it was a lot easier to get traffic to Twistys when we converted at 1:750 vs 1:2000. That is where it gets tricky. More traffic = more sales but without decent converting content and tools in place getting more traffic is increasingly harder and more expensive to acquire.

you getting those ratios from "cheap free loading gallery surfers" who don't want to spend a dime? or you pushin than junk traffic to prime link spots with good quality return traffic?

Shap · 08-20-2015, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bigmeezy941

you getting those ratios from "cheap free loading gallery surfers" who don't want to spend a dime? or you pushin than junk traffic to prime link spots with good quality return traffic?

To be honest I got those ratios straight out of thin air

was just using them to illustrate a point.

Far-L · 08-20-2015, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Ah ok, user submitted mostly. Well even MORE kudos to you then because that means your eye for choosing REAL "amateur" content is stellar.

Funny, when I was filming my own (totally shitty, poorly lit and shaky cam) scenes I was killing it. LOL I would do it again but I just don't want my five inches of fun on the Internet anymore. :D

Not hard really. If there is a camera person getting excellent angles all the time then it probably is not homemade. We can also tell straight off by the initial inquiry - "I am a producer that shoots amateur content" tends to be a dead giveaway...

Whereas... "We are a couple that loves sex and wants to sell our home videos" usually, not always, but more often than not, tends to be the real deal.

You of course could see for yourself how your authentic homemade stuff did so I know you know the difference. Five inches of fun can still outperform even the monster cock stuff when it comes to true amateur.

The Porn Nerd · 08-20-2015, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

For the people who like to say 'traffic is all that matters'..... Everything you do IS traffic. It's a misnomer to suggest something done is not about getting traffic. A great domain/brand gets you traffic. Quality affiliates get you traffic. Niche leading content gets you traffic. Buying traffic gets you traffic. For fucks-sake, I can't think of much I do in a day that doesn't in some way tie into acquiring more traffic B2C or more traffic and connections B2B.

Yes you will always earn more with good traffic and bad content than with no traffic and the best content... but the best content will on its own almost bring in additional traffic, and the best branding will as well. Take a look at Ruseful and it is obvious that the content is what drove much of the tube traffic to his sites. How much traffic did he get by creating niche leading content? If you ask him he will tell you 'almost all of it.' Meanwhile another client of mine with a huge site and massive traffic is about to rebrand itself as perhaps the best 4 letter domain in the history of adult. Why would they do that if they already have massive traffic? Because doing it will lead to them getting even more traffic.

Saying just focus on traffic is a platitude, but 'focus on traffic' really means focus on branding, content, relationships, networking, media buying, domaining, PR, SEO, Social, Mobile, VR, Emailing, and all the rest... because at the end of the day that all leads to more traffic.

Yeah true but it's much easier to just say 'traffic'.

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Not hard really. If there is a camera person getting excellent angles all the time then it probably is not homemade. We can also tell straight off by the initial inquiry - "I am a producer that shoots amateur content" tends to be a dead giveaway...

Whereas... "We are a couple that loves sex and wants to sell our home videos" usually, not always, but more often than not, tends to be the real deal.

You of course could see for yourself how your authentic homemade stuff did so I know you know the difference. Five inches of fun can still outperform even the monster cock stuff when it comes to true amateur.

Please don't inspire me to pick up a camera again! LOL My girlfriend would not be happy, and she doesn't want to be on camera.

Struggle4Bucks · 08-20-2015, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Yeah true but it's much easier to just say 'traffic'.

Quote of the day

NatalieK · 08-20-2015, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Having the best content doesn't always lead to have the biggest or best converting site. Which sites do you think have great content but should convert better and be bigger sites than they currently are?

I suppose all our sites have some really great content, we're always having 5 star & high votes for our vids on clips sites & tubes

JuicyBunny · 08-20-2015, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

Onlytease has very good content but I honestly believe the name hurts the brand. Its a restrictive name and a huge part of flirting or teasing is not knowing if that's all that will happen. I'd be very interested to see a clone of that content on a domain like Flirt.xxx or another more open sounding brand name. To me OnlyTease sounds like 'that's all she does' and it weakens the fantasy.

Just my 2cents (offered in a very constructive way so please don't go psycho in your reply as I'm actually trying to be helpful).

So correcting your statement regarding JAVHD and suggesting they hire better people to do their SEO, writing and translating services to improve their sales is "psycho"? Meanwhile you remove your signature for enginefood in the above post which I guess confirms to the board who is doing such a sub-par job for JAVHD.

You are never helpful Stewart, only self-serving.

Struggle4Bucks · 08-20-2015, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

Onlytease has very good content but I honestly believe the name hurts the brand. Its a restrictive name and a huge part of flirting or teasing is not knowing if that's all that will happen.

What's wrong with "Only not knowing if that's all that will happen"?

Alice22 · 08-20-2015, 06:14 PM

I don't know any sites with awesome content that are not successful.
The thing is - it's very expensive to produce HQ content, so if the site doesn't do well, i guess the owners just stop with updates and those sites are die, as they have negative ROI.

I am running sites over 12 years and i have an eye for a great content, unfortunately, the production of it will be too expensive.
Let's take as example out best converting site.
The Official Site of Mistress Ella Kross
This site had 5 exclusive updates per week and converts around 1:200 for over a year. (this is great ratio, i have sites that converts 1:2000 so i am impressed with it)
If i will analyze the content, i can say it's far away from the awesome quality, but i can't see how to make a good ROI if the content will be much better.
As my English is really suck, i will try to give an example with numbers:
I pay 150$ a day for location in my country (location that looks shity i must say) , if i want super HQ location the cost per day will be 500$ and up. (location only)
And there is many other things that will improve the content quality by by tons (better camera, lighting, assistant, and list go on) ...BUT
If my expensive will be that high for a super quality niche site, i am not sure i will earn something

Sure, i will have more sells, but not by MUCH more....

This why it's very difficult to find niche sites with an awesome content quality like black.com
To make it, the budget should be HUGE...Much bigger than many would to risk in 2015

I still believe it's possible to open a site with super HQ content and make money, but i don't have the balls, to spend over 200 000$ on it and fail

I better spend this money on niche sites, with an average content.

Relentless · 08-20-2015, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JuicyBunny

So correcting your statement regarding JAVHD and suggesting they hire better people to do their SEO, writing and translating services to improve their sales is "psycho"? Meanwhile you remove your signature for enginefood in the above post which I guess confirms to the board who is doing such a sub-par job for JAVHD. You are never helpful Stewart, only self-serving.

Hello, not sure who you are.... or if we know each other. I don't recall seeing JuicyBunnyCash before...
Hopefully you will find this helpful:

My statement regarding JAVHD was that they have niche-leading content... I did not suggest they hire anyone. My signature should appear in every post, that happens automatically on GFY to the best of my knowledge. There are dozens of companies that do find me quite helpful, and I also definitely agree I am self-serving, so is everyone else in business - but claiming I am "only self-serving" is as misguided a term as the name "only tease" from my point of view.

Have a wonderful evening!

Relentless · 08-20-2015, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

What's wrong with "Only not knowing if that's all that will happen"?

Only not knowing would be fine... only tease is a name that suggests you do know, and the mystery is weakened by knowing.

Struggle4Bucks · 08-20-2015, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

Only not knowing would be fine... only tease is a name that suggests you do know, and the mystery is weakened by knowing.

If

Tease=not knowing if that's all that will happen

then

OnlyTease=only not knowing if that's all that will happen=the mystery remains...

but nevermind... i was just playing with words... i'm behind the computer editing all day, bored as fuck... i think i'm just trolling today... while people think i'm serious...

wehateporn · 08-20-2015, 07:34 PM

One of the things I like about OnlyTease is the mystery of how far the model will go, the question is are there many surfers who have turned away because they assumed there was no more than tease, or have most relevant people managed to find out the reality about the site

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

If

Tease=not knowing if that's all that will happen

then

OnlyTease=only not knowing if that's all that will happen=the mystery remains...

but nevermind... i was just playing with words... i'm behind the computer editing all day, bored as fuck... i think i'm just trolling today... while people think i'm serious...

wehateporn · 08-20-2015, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

Only not knowing would be fine... only tease is a name that suggests you do know, and the mystery is weakened by knowing.

StripTease.com and SexyTease.com cover all eventualities

onlytease · 08-21-2015, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

Onlytease has very good content but I honestly believe the name hurts the brand. Its a restrictive name and a huge part of flirting or teasing is not knowing if that's all that will happen. I'd be very interested to see a clone of that content on a domain like Flirt.xxx or another more open sounding brand name. To me OnlyTease sounds like 'that's all she does' and it weakens the fantasy.

Just my 2cents (offered in a very constructive way so please don't go psycho in your reply as I'm actually trying to be helpful).

Interesting angle Relentless - and by the way I don't do psycho so don't worry - I like good constructive critiscm

One of the reasons we choose OnlyTease is becuase we do do exactly what it says. 80% of the content is topless, 10% lingerie and 10% figure nude (approx guesses) and we never want to mislead the surfer to thinking that these stunning girls in the tour will be showing the surfer what they had for dinner by spreading legs etc - that is not what we are about - but we did want to do teasing sets - so it starts off with the girl full clothed and the hope is the user is wanting to know if the model is wearing stockings or tights, its the tease of not knowing initially. The other ethos of the site is they never do a set with bare legs, its either stockings tights or socks!

We are lucky enough to use many models that don't do any other web work (or at least never used to - these days not many models can earn a living unless they do web!) and so got some amazing models on board.

And if we get complaints from users its usually either one of two complaints - not enough skin on show (they want to see ruder stuff and never really understood the tour!) or there is too much skin on show and don't even want to see topless. The second one is the one we get more (and thankfully neither are that often).

So your idea is an interesting one!

If you (or any other GFYers with good constructive critiscm) want a free login to the members area so I can get your feedback and thoughts drop me an email on paul @ onlytease.com

Cheers Paul

onlytease · 08-21-2015, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Will check it out! We still have to get together in London

Hi Shap,

Good to hear from you. I will drop you an email now with a login to the members area.

And yes we need to get to meet up soon - I should be in London soon will let you know

And all feedback welcome

Cheers Paul.

1215 · 08-21-2015, 12:16 AM

Wish I had a bigger audience. Everything we post is pretty much unique or a spinoff of something else, but it's hard as anything to get a mainstream audience without an advertising budget.

Relentless · 08-21-2015, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by onlytease

So your idea is an interesting one! If you (or any other GFYers with good constructive critiscm) want a free login to the members area so I can get your feedback and thoughts drop me an email on paul @ onlytease.com
Cheers Paul

Email sent

j3rkules · 08-21-2015, 08:35 AM

Looks like a very interesting thread. I am going read this later on and hopefully share some ideas.

wehateporn · 08-21-2015, 09:24 AM

Paul,

It's hard to fault your member area, you've clearly put a lot of thought into every detail, adding the Behind The Scenes was a stroke of genius!

IMHO Playboy could do with around 30% to 50% of each photoshoot being OnlyTease style, instead of ripping all the clothes off to full nudity so quickly.

wehateporn · 08-21-2015, 10:02 AM

I think Northwest Beauties could make a lot more money with their content, the guy who runs it says the same. This year they've converted for me at 1 in 135. They could do with someone making some affiliate-friendly tools and content, also a redesign/organization of their website.

Magnetron · 08-21-2015, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

MPL Studios is a good example. I'm sure they do ok but i don't see them on many sites. My gut tells me the upside for them is huge.

The owner used to be a bit demanding with affiliates. Wanted MPL to get top billing over competitors like Met, Femjoy and other "better sellers". Which is all fine and dandy if you do something special for your affs. Have a nice life. Let some other aff have my sales.

Shap · 08-21-2015, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Magnetron

The owner used to be a bit demanding with affiliates. Wanted MPL to get top billing over competitors like Met, Femjoy and other "better sellers". Which is all fine and dandy if you do something special for your affs. Have a nice life. Let some other aff have my sales.

I've heard stories like that about some other owners as well. If that's true he's small minded and a douche bag. You can't play like that. You have to be bigger and better and let your product sell. You can't bully or force people to selling it.

JayAllan · 08-21-2015, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

You got that right. They seem to go mostly unnoticed by the industry. But they are producing some of the best porn out there right now (and have been for the last few years).

Agreed! PornFidelity and TeenFidelity are excellent.

Shap · 08-22-2015, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JayAllan

Agreed! PornFidelity and TeenFidelity are excellent.

Agreed

Magnetron · 09-06-2015, 11:39 AM

Is this thread still alive?

Honestly, X-Art and Femjoy are dropping the ball HARD in regards to girl on girl strapon action.

bmwracer41 · 09-06-2015, 12:11 PM

Very interesting Topic as I am new to these boards. I do own an AVN / XBIZ award winning site...www dot Trans500 dot com
I would like to think I have amazing TS content, the deals I am doing with Big Players tell me that, we have and been getting offered cable deals and the biggest factor in my mind is my conversions ratio which is 1:245 this year and the last two months 1:216, so I am happy.
Still our biggest challenge is quality Traffic and getting more affiliates on board toour cash program www dot Transdollars dot com. I as an owner and my affiliate manager, Tim @ Trans500 dot com personally reach out and try to build relationships and give them the tools to succeed . Been a little over two years since site has gone live and its a Daily Grind but hope to be The name in the TS Game.
Our Sept 10th release of www dot KaitlynGender dot come hopefully is the start of that !!

Shap · 09-07-2015, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnetron

Is this thread still alive?

Honestly, X-Art and Femjoy are dropping the ball HARD in regards to girl on girl strapon action.

This thread is still alive

Who is killing it on the girl on girl strapon niche?

Shap · 09-07-2015, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwracer41

Very interesting Topic as I am new to these boards. I do own an AVN / XBIZ award winning site...www dot Trans500 dot com
I would like to think I have amazing TS content, the deals I am doing with Big Players tell me that, we have and been getting offered cable deals and the biggest factor in my mind is my conversions ratio which is 1:245 this year and the last two months 1:216, so I am happy.
Still our biggest challenge is quality Traffic and getting more affiliates on board toour cash program www dot Transdollars dot com. I as an owner and my affiliate manager, Tim @ Trans500 dot com personally reach out and try to build relationships and give them the tools to succeed . Been a little over two years since site has gone live and its a Daily Grind but hope to be The name in the TS Game.
Our Sept 10th release of www dot KaitlynGender dot come hopefully is the start of that !!

I saw your trailer. PHENOMENAL! I think you will set a new standard in the trans niche with that movie.

The Porn Nerd · 09-07-2015, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Magnetron

Is this thread still alive?

Honestly, X-Art and Femjoy are dropping the ball HARD in regards to girl on girl strapon action.

Now that's what I call 'artistic' - especially when it's white dykes and a black strapon so I can call it 'interracial lesbian strapon porn'. Would help if one (or both) were squirters, too.

I want to get into the TS thing, too but where to put it? On my gay network or straight network? LOL Both? :D

bmwracer41 · 09-07-2015, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Now that's what I call 'artistic' - especially when it's white dykes and a black strapon so I can call it 'interracial lesbian strapon porn'. Would help if one (or both) were squirters, too.

I want to get into the TS thing, too but where to put it? On my gay network or straight network? LOL Both? :D

come join Transdollars.com and let our content work with your Traffic, great conversions
[email protected]

bmwracer41 · 09-07-2015, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

I saw your trailer. PHENOMENAL! I think you will set a new standard in the trans niche with that movie.

Thanks for the Kind words..Thursday is a Big Day for us !!!

Blacked_com · 09-08-2015, 12:38 AM

Hey Shap!

Figured our name was mentioned enough to throw

into this...

What sets Blacked.com & Tushy.com apart are the standards we set in every stage of delivering the final product to our fans and customers. We cover all of the bases and the Team has been critical. The one man show in this market is at a huge disadvantage due to high consumer demand for real & interactive products which by now clearly require inputs of scale.

Looks like a lot of guys cap themselves with ridiculous self imposed limits. Good advice is to sit tight, practice something useful, practice not being an asshat to other people, apply these skills with patience and then real opportunities will start to emerge. There's no single way of creating markets that didn't previously exist, so the master splinter personalities on here should check it because faster and smarter people will beat them to the money just by going new or different directions.

Keep an eye on Tushy.com this Wednesday 10:30AM Pacific...we're gonna be hitting everyone with something big!

P.S. we're not looking for affiliates right now and Jul P2 paxum transfers will go out sometime this week for anyone wondering, so don't try to ask about it here! (Also not answering any q's related to the video contest here, hit up your rep.)

Magnetron · 09-08-2015, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Now that's what I call 'artistic' - especially when it's white dykes and a black strapon so I can call it 'interracial lesbian strapon porn'. Would help if one (or both) were squirters, too.

I want to get into the TS thing, too but where to put it? On my gay network or straight network? LOL Both? :D

Any site with girl on girl content is appropriate. And it is a work of art to see two women going at it with a strap on, but only when they know what the hell they are doing.

If it's just noobs guiding the damn thing in and out with their hands and awkwardly fumbling around with it? Save it for an amateur site. I'd rather watch t-girls.

HunkyLuke · 09-08-2015, 10:51 AM

I know I am coming late to this thread, but our sites at GlamourBuckz do exceptionally well at conversions but are underpromoted and undersold at the mo. But this is something I am working on!

Shap · 09-08-2015, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by HunkyLuke

I know I am coming late to this thread, but our sites at GlamourBuckz do exceptionally well at conversions but are underpromoted and undersold at the mo. But this is something I am working on!

Nice stuff Luke where in Uk are you guys? We should meet up and talk

HunkyLuke · 09-08-2015, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Nice stuff Luke where in Uk are you guys? We should meet up and talk

The content guys are in the UK but I am not. Too bad, would have been kewl to meet!

JayAllan · 09-08-2015, 01:49 PM

You guys are doing great stuff Steve.

I haven't checked out Tushy yet (but I will) but you are doing excellent work with Blacked. I like the light modern style and it's shot very well.

This is what porn should look like to my personal tastes.

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Originally Posted by Blacked_com

Hey Shap!

Figured our name was mentioned enough to throw

into this...

What sets Blacked.com & Tushy.com apart are the standards we set in every stage of delivering the final product to our fans and customers. We cover all of the bases and the Team has been critical. The one man show in this market is at a huge disadvantage due to high consumer demand for real & interactive products which by now clearly require inputs of scale.

Looks like a lot of guys cap themselves with ridiculous self imposed limits. Good advice is to sit tight, practice something useful, practice not being an asshat to other people, apply these skills with patience and then real opportunities will start to emerge. There's no single way of creating markets that didn't previously exist, so the master splinter personalities on here should check it because faster and smarter people will beat them to the money just by going new or different directions.

Keep an eye on Tushy.com this Wednesday 10:30AM Pacific...we're gonna be hitting everyone with something big!

P.S. we're not looking for affiliates right now and Jul P2 paxum transfers will go out sometime this week for anyone wondering, so don't try to ask about it here! (Also not answering any q's related to the video contest here, hit up your rep.)

The Porn Nerd · 09-08-2015, 04:21 PM

Shap will you be in Amsterdam for WMA?

Shap · 09-09-2015, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Shap will you be in Amsterdam for WMA?

Don't think so. Haven't thought of going don't really have any reason to go

I'm in London if you go to the show and should be at Oktoberfest.

The Porn Nerd · 09-09-2015, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Don't think so. Haven't thought of going don't really have any reason to go

I'm in London if you go to the show and should be at Oktoberfest.

Ahh missing London this year and I don't drink that much beer. LOL I guess being married etc the coffeeshops hold no allure for you.

Have fun at Oktoberfest!! Supposed to be a wild scene.

(And meeting the infamous Porn Nerd in person should be reason enough to fly an hour to AMS. Haha!!)

Shap · 10-02-2015, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Ahh missing London this year and I don't drink that much beer. LOL I guess being married etc the coffeeshops hold no allure for you.

Have fun at Oktoberfest!! Supposed to be a wild scene.

(And meeting the infamous Porn Nerd in person should be reason enough to fly an hour to AMS. Haha!!)

How was the show for you? Oktoberfest was great but hard on my body lol

jimmycooper · 10-02-2015, 08:51 AM

Dorcel Vision I think could stand to benefit from a more focused marketing effort. Especially in the US where I think there's a lot of room for growth in terms brand recognition. While the whole condom thing could be an issue, Wicked also shoots with condoms and are apparently still doing well enough to be able to afford Axel Braun.

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Shap · 03-24-2016, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Dorcel Vision I think could stand to benefit from a more focused marketing effort. Especially in the US where I think there's a lot of room for growth in terms brand recognition. While the whole condom thing could be an issue, Wicked also shoots with condoms and are apparently still doing well enough to be able to afford Axel Braun.

Dorcel Vision - Films pornos / x en vod / streaming ou téléchargement - Marc Dorcel

There's also a lot to like about what Angela White is doing with her site.

About | Official Website of Busty Australian Porn Star Angela White

awesome trailer

AW005 ANGELA 2 DVD | Official Website of Busty Australian Porn Star Angela White

They are fantastic! I agree. Going to contact them

newxxx · 08-31-2016, 07:42 AM

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Having the best content doesn't always lead to have the biggest or best converting site. Which sites do you think have great content but should convert better and be bigger sites than they currently are?

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08-20-2015, 09:45 AM	#151
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08-20-2015, 10:30 AM	#155
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,697	For the people who like to say 'traffic is all that matters'..... Everything you do IS traffic. It's a misnomer to suggest something done is not about getting traffic. A great domain/brand gets you traffic. Quality affiliates get you traffic. Niche leading content gets you traffic. Buying traffic gets you traffic. For fucks-sake, I can't think of much I do in a day that doesn't in some way tie into acquiring more traffic B2C or more traffic and connections B2B. Yes you will always earn more with good traffic and bad content than with no traffic and the best content... but the best content will on its own almost bring in additional traffic, and the best branding will as well. Take a look at Ruseful and it is obvious that the content is what drove much of the tube traffic to his sites. How much traffic did he get by creating niche leading content? If you ask him he will tell you 'almost all of it.' Meanwhile another client of mine with a huge site and massive traffic is about to rebrand itself as perhaps the best 4 letter domain in the history of adult. Why would they do that if they already have massive traffic? Because doing it will lead to them getting even more traffic. Saying just focus on traffic is a platitude, but 'focus on traffic' really means focus on branding, content, relationships, networking, media buying, domaining, PR, SEO, Social, Mobile, VR, Emailing, and all the rest... because at the end of the day that all leads to more traffic. __________________ Website Secure \| Engine Food ICQ# 266-942-896

08-20-2015, 06:14 PM	#164
Alice22 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 907	I don't know any sites with awesome content that are not successful. The thing is - it's very expensive to produce HQ content, so if the site doesn't do well, i guess the owners just stop with updates and those sites are die, as they have negative ROI. I am running sites over 12 years and i have an eye for a great content, unfortunately, the production of it will be too expensive. Let's take as example out best converting site. The Official Site of Mistress Ella Kross This site had 5 exclusive updates per week and converts around 1:200 for over a year. (this is great ratio, i have sites that converts 1:2000 so i am impressed with it) If i will analyze the content, i can say it's far away from the awesome quality, but i can't see how to make a good ROI if the content will be much better. As my English is really suck, i will try to give an example with numbers: I pay 150$ a day for location in my country (location that looks shity i must say) , if i want super HQ location the cost per day will be 500$ and up. (location only) And there is many other things that will improve the content quality by by tons (better camera, lighting, assistant, and list go on) ...BUT If my expensive will be that high for a super quality niche site, i am not sure i will earn something Sure, i will have more sells, but not by MUCH more.... This why it's very difficult to find niche sites with an awesome content quality like black.com To make it, the budget should be HUGE...Much bigger than many would to risk in 2015 I still believe it's possible to open a site with super HQ content and make money, but i don't have the balls, to spend over 200 000$ on it and fail I better spend this money on niche sites, with an average content. __________________ Exclusive Teen Solo girls and pregnant sites

08-21-2015, 12:16 AM	#172
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08-21-2015, 08:35 AM	#174
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08-21-2015, 09:24 AM	#175
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08-21-2015, 10:02 AM	#176
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09-06-2015, 11:39 AM	#181
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09-06-2015, 12:11 PM	#182
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09-08-2015, 12:38 AM	#188
Blacked_com Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 1	Hey Shap! Figured our name was mentioned enough to throw into this... What sets Blacked.com & Tushy.com apart are the standards we set in every stage of delivering the final product to our fans and customers. We cover all of the bases and the Team has been critical. The one man show in this market is at a huge disadvantage due to high consumer demand for real & interactive products which by now clearly require inputs of scale. Looks like a lot of guys cap themselves with ridiculous self imposed limits. Good advice is to sit tight, practice something useful, practice not being an asshat to other people, apply these skills with patience and then real opportunities will start to emerge. There's no single way of creating markets that didn't previously exist, so the master splinter personalities on here should check it because faster and smarter people will beat them to the money just by going new or different directions. Keep an eye on Tushy.com this Wednesday 10:30AM Pacific...we're gonna be hitting everyone with something big! P.S. we're not looking for affiliates right now and Jul P2 paxum transfers will go out sometime this week for anyone wondering, so don't try to ask about it here! (Also not answering any q's related to the video contest here, hit up your rep.)

09-08-2015, 10:51 AM	#190
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09-08-2015, 04:21 PM	#194
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10-02-2015, 08:51 AM	#198
jimmycooper Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Location: Manhattan Posts: 4,016	Dorcel Vision I think could stand to benefit from a more focused marketing effort. Especially in the US where I think there's a lot of room for growth in terms brand recognition. While the whole condom thing could be an issue, Wicked also shoots with condoms and are apparently still doing well enough to be able to afford Axel Braun. Dorcel Vision - Films pornos / x en vod / streaming ou téléchargement - Marc Dorcel There's also a lot to like about what Angela White is doing with her site. About \| Official Website of Busty Australian Porn Star Angela White awesome trailer AW005 ANGELA 2 DVD \| Official Website of Busty Australian Porn Star Angela White __________________