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Old 09-09-2015, 04:57 PM   #1
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Transitioning out of adult? Supplementing your adult income? Consider YOUTUBE

One guy's story.



His business model is actually pretty straightforward.

A lot of it can be outsourced to fiverr.

Whiteboard animation
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A lot of negative moaning and after a while it gets boring.

Weekend before last we went to a Gluten Free Food Fair here in Brno. It was in a crappy old building, full of stalls on trestle tables all arranged in a pretty haphazard way. And the place was packed with people buying products.

We only found out about it because our local heath food shop owner is a friend. The marketing for the event was poor. The producers leaflets, mentioned the companies sites. Checking them out it's obvious most are clueless on marketing and selling online.

Just one example of 100s if not 1,000s of industries that need online marketing experts. Businesses that will pay to get the advice you guys have, businesses with tangible products that can't be given away free.
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Now that it's out Youtube will be flooded with these types of vids and they won't be as effective.

It's a good angle he took but the only issue I have is that Youtube controls your business.

One push of a button and your entire business is gone.

Good for him though.
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YouTube always win, you always lose
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In the town I live in there is a family who makes their living off of YouTube. They have two young boys and with their father they started a YouTube channel testing out toys. Now toy companies and other companies like Disney and Pixar contact them for promotional deals. They are doing so well they bought a huge plot of land on the outskirts of town where they are building a huge house and a production studio.
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Now that it's out Youtube will be flooded with these types of vids and they won't be as effective.

It's a good angle he took but the only issue I have is that Youtube controls your business.

One push of a button and your entire business is gone.

Good for him though.
Yup, reminds me of the youtuber that recently had her channel closed. Made a video complaining about fat people. So many haters attacked her (maybe rightfully so) and filed complaints with youtube / google that they closed her channel down. Had around 100,000 subscribers at the end, all pissed away. She was a bit of a cunt, but it would still suck to lose a channel with 100,000 subs.
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Yup, reminds me of the youtuber that recently had her channel closed. Made a video complaining about fat people. So many haters attacked her (maybe rightfully so) and filed complaints with youtube / google that they closed her channel down. Had around 100,000 subscribers at the end, all pissed away. She was a bit of a cunt, but it would still suck to lose a channel with 100,000 subs.
In this case maybe she deserved it?

But as soon as somebody gets offended or irritated or is just having a bad day, your whole business could be gone in seconds. It's worth a try if you don't have all your eggs invested in it though.
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It's worth a try if you don't have all your eggs invested in it though.
Yes, as we've seen with Tumblr, you're only updating someone else's site, they can pull the plug on you whenever they want, they can make new rules that didn't exist when you started your project. Sure, put a bit of spare time in, see if there's a gold mine, but never rely on it, not unless it's already put enough money in your account to leave you financially independent
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Now that it's out Youtube will be flooded with these types of vids and they won't be as effective.
Why bother?

Just re-upload his videos as your own, and make the cash from the ads yourself?

After all, thats how tubes work these days isn't it?
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youtube pays so little for ads - like 1/10th what you'd think, unless you have an express agreement with them, which requires big big numbers
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Yup, reminds me of the youtuber that recently had her channel closed. Made a video complaining about fat people. So many haters attacked her (maybe rightfully so) and filed complaints with youtube / google that they closed her channel down. Had around 100,000 subscribers at the end, all pissed away. She was a bit of a cunt, but it would still suck to lose a channel with 100,000 subs.
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It's a good angle he took but the only issue I have is that Youtube controls your business.

One push of a button and your entire business is gone.
Youtube has rules, it's their site so follow their rules or get booted off. It's an excellent place to get traffic, if you have something they want.
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Why bother?

Just re-upload his videos as your own, and make the cash from the ads yourself?

After all, thats how tubes work these days isn't it?
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The trick is in having something people want to buy. Not something you want to sell. Think about that.

The Internet is like a mail order catalogue of old, just 100,000s more pages. Pressure selling won't work, driving traffic won't work on it's own, great product won't work. Selecting these videos, I clicked back from a few because the intro after 5 seconds had me turned off, like the OP one.

We're in a market that has to hook the buyer in seconds. A high click count, doesn't mean they stayed.
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You have to be careful with YouTube. If you do any sort of videos that disclose your identity there are a lot of people who have nothing to do but harass you. I know a guy who has had cops called on him and gone through all kinds of harassment and he just runs a travel style channel.

The worst part is YouTube doesn't ban the users who harass the video makers or even give you tools to ban them from your channel.
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I have no issue with rules.

I take issue with someone else having their finger on my entire business.
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Sex and children's videos LOL
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Well, he's right that working for someone else generally does suck. How many times do you have to see some broken middle aged guy going into an office he can't stand to pay for his cow wife and kids in college, or some young bitchy girl who expects to get paid to play with her phone all day complain about her loser boyfriend for 2 hours a day?

It only took me a few years to realize I can't do that forever.
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The trick is in having something people want to buy. Not something you want to sell. Think about that.
This is the key. It's all about niche and positioning.

also, re: youtubue closing your account, always make it a point to build a separate site and advertise/brand your site through your video descriptions and within the body of the videos themselves.
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In the town I live in there is a family who makes their living off of YouTube. They have two young boys and with their father they started a YouTube channel testing out toys. Now toy companies and other companies like Disney and Pixar contact them for promotional deals. They are doing so well they bought a huge plot of land on the outskirts of town where they are building a huge house and a production studio.
It's like anything else...if you have something to offer the world, then you'll make money. If it's all about gaming the system with no real value to back it up, then it won't last long.
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That's what Churn and Burn SEO is all about, bruh
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re: youtubue closing your account, always make it a point to build a separate site and advertise/brand your site through your video descriptions and within the body of the videos themselves.
For sure.

But can those people still be profitable after paying the hosting bill when they get a million views per month to their own hosted videos.
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For sure.

But can those people still be profitable after paying the hosting bill when they get a million views per month to their own hosted videos.
Mirror your videos on YT/Vimeo, etc but embed on a site you control. The real money is not in the YT ads. That much is obvious. The real money is in add on services/products like books, coaching, getting people on your mailing list and sending them offers, etc. The video ad revenue is a drop in the bucket.

When you get sick of it, flip it on flippa. Cookie cutter crap (with traffic and revenue) on Flippa sells for thousands of bucks.
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Be careful if you plan on just making easy crap to put out there. For example, a lot of those channels of people just playing videos games all got removed, unless it's things like walkthroughs, cheats, help, etc. PewDiePie dodged a bullet there...
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Mirror your videos on YT/Vimeo, etc but embed on a site you control.
Yeah I guess so.

I guess I'm old school where I feel I need to control every aspect and that includes hosting my own content but you're right.
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Be careful if you plan on just making easy crap to put out there. For example, a lot of those channels of people just playing videos games all got removed, unless it's things like walkthroughs, cheats, help, etc. PewDiePie dodged a bullet there...
Some of the Minecraft video creators are making a nice living, but they must be worried, now that Microsoft have bought Minecraft, surely it's only a matter of time until they ban the videos on YouTube, like they did for all of their own games, so far they haven't, but I'm expecting it
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I'm thinking about making a channel/blog about stoner cooking. I can cook better than those girls making 127k/month...
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Cooking pseudo or cooking food?
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For sure.

But can those people still be profitable after paying the hosting bill when they get a million views per month to their own hosted videos.
Bandwidth is very cheap
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Some of the Minecraft video creators are making a nice living, but they must be worried, now that Microsoft have bought Minecraft, surely it's only a matter of time until they ban the videos on YouTube, like they did for all of their own games, so far they haven't, but I'm expecting it
Hell anyone playing games makes a good living it seems...I mean there's a ton of gamers on Youtube getting so many damn views just uploading videos of them playing through games.
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You mean lots of bandwidth with a dedicated server with a quality hosting company?
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Giving the viewer something he wants to come back to is key. We know this from the days of TGPs and now with Tubes. Everything is about consumer retention.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsg...2ljEixyulzOnUQ

https://www.youtube.com/user/JamesNintendoNerd

https://www.youtube.com/user/FRANKIEonPCin1080p

Look at the number of subscribers.

It's all about delivering to the customer something he want to return to. That's why you're on GFY, this thread, and not elsewhere.
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Giving the viewer something he wants to come back to is key. We know this from the days of TGPs and now with Tubes. Everything is about consumer retention.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsg...2ljEixyulzOnUQ

https://www.youtube.com/user/JamesNintendoNerd

https://www.youtube.com/user/FRANKIEonPCin1080p

Look at the number of subscribers.

It's all about delivering to the customer something he want to return to. That's why you're on GFY, this thread, and not elsewhere.

Here is a comment on one of the videos you just linked to:

"This video got deleted, anyone noticed that? Still got this tab open so I can leave a comment. EDIT: I suspect this video got copyright striked."

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Hell anyone playing games makes a good living it seems...I mean there's a ton of gamers on Youtube getting so many damn views just uploading videos of them playing through games.
If you have personality, then yes.

I don't really like Pewdiepie but he is clever and funny in his video mashups. I fucking FUCKING hate Markiplier but I guess because he is telegenic and has some of the humor stupid people like he does alright.

The one I watch every couple weeks is theRadBrad, he doesn't annoy me and he does a good job playing through.

I don't play video games much at all anymore but I like to see what's out there by spending 30-60 minutes browsing the walkthroughs and seeing the bosses. Several have 1+ billion views.
There's a lot you can do with it if you have talent and are willing to polarize people.
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Here is a comment on one of the videos you just linked to:

"This video got deleted, anyone noticed that? Still got this tab open so I can leave a comment. EDIT: I suspect this video got copyright striked."

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So they should have stuck to the rules.

I find it amazing when people here complain about a social media site asking users to stick to the rules. After 15 years of non bitching of surfers and other business people not sticking to the rules, or the ethics and morals of the rules. Maybe different people are taking different sides, ultimately rules are there and to be applied.

This from a person who broke the rules in the UK, got arrested, convicted and fined. Twice.

My friend Damian would love that from me.
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So they should have stuck to the rules.
You keep talking about rules and I agree.

That's not my point though.
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If you have personality, then yes.

I don't really like Pewdiepie but he is clever and funny in his video mashups. I fucking FUCKING hate Markiplier but I guess because he is telegenic and has some of the humor stupid people like he does alright.

The one I watch every couple weeks is theRadBrad, he doesn't annoy me and he does a good job playing through.

I don't play video games much at all anymore but I like to see what's out there by spending 30-60 minutes browsing the walkthroughs and seeing the bosses. Several have 1+ billion views.
There's a lot you can do with it if you have talent and are willing to polarize people.
I'd do the same thing if i made $600-700k/month like PewDiePie...

(I have a feeling that South Park helped him a lot, though..)
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What was your point?
That someone else can type 'delete' and make your business vanish in an instant.

All your hours of work, money, and time spent ... gone.

Even when people follow the rules they are not entirely safe. Rules change and the people who INTERPRET them have lots of power. There are inconsistencies all over Youtube with people uploading videos complaining that their previous videos were deleted even though they followed the rules to the letter.

Youtube as a business if fine as long as you don't invest more than you are willing to lose time/money/effort wise.
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I'd do the same thing if i made $600-700k/month like PewDiePie...
How much of his income is from Youtube directly (ad views) ?
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This is not working.. Two days ago I made three videos. I waited until now and I'm still not rich.

Fuck this shit!
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How much of his income is from Youtube directly (ad views) ?
People don't really know what he makes from just Adsense ads, but most guess it's around 2.5-2.6mil. in 2014.
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So they should have stuck to the rules.

I find it amazing when people here complain about a social media site asking users to stick to the rules. After 15 years of non bitching of surfers and other business people not sticking to the rules, or the ethics and morals of the rules. Maybe different people are taking different sides, ultimately rules are there and to be applied.

This from a person who broke the rules in the UK, got arrested, convicted and fined. Twice.

My friend Damian would love that from me.

True but the thing with Youtube is a lot of it is automated. I think someone brought up that comedian who had her channel deleted for fat jokes. Well the problem is that she was flagged so many times by users that the algorithm automatically disabled her channel. Despite what Youtube tells you it can happen automatically with no human intervention [by youtube staff]. There is an appeal option but whether someone always REALLY manually reviews it, who knows? I'm skeptical.
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PewDiePie on MONEY from youtube

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True but the thing with Youtube is a lot of it is automated. I think someone brought up that comedian who had her channel deleted for fat jokes. Well the problem is that she was flagged so many times by users that the algorithm automatically disabled her channel. Despite what Youtube tells you it can happen automatically with no human intervention [by youtube staff]. There is an appeal option but whether someone always REALLY manually reviews it, who knows? I'm skeptical.
I get that, the only way is to make sure your videos won't offend others. Fat jokes are out as they get flagged a lot. Unless the comedian is fat.

There are lots of sex, dating, gay, etc advice videos that one would think would get flagged, but don't. So whatever a person decides to market has to be inside the boundaries.

Viv Thomas had lots of videos, as did Playboy and some models. So there are ways people can use it. We have to adopt the attitude that these sites are there for us to use as we feel.

Remember all the bitching when other sites banned porn? As if we set the rules, which we don't.

It's time to realise the skills aquired to drive traffic to porn sites, has to be utilised to " Transition out of adult. Supplementing income, then consider YOUTUBE"

Any site one doesn't own, can change it's rules.
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Making money off ads is the weak point of this model.

Why?

ADBLOCKERS!

Thankfully, if you use vids to build a mailing list, you're good to go.

Use the list to sell your own products like SaaS, software, books, or get people excited about your Kindle free book days to boost paid sales later.
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