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Sly · 09-22-2015, 01:13 PM

I'm a little surprised, this appears to be a monster.

Facing up to $18 billion in EPA fines alone. European governments launching their own investigations. Huge stock drop, billions lost.

VW Says 11 Million Cars Affected Globally as Scandal Widens

stoka · 09-22-2015, 01:16 PM

it's all bikers here, dude :D

2MuchMark · 09-22-2015, 01:24 PM

It's pretty bad. And the CEO gave a shitty apology. "The company is sorry". Like, wtf... some ONE ordered the the special mode setting, and at least a few programmers made it happen... they should all apologize, all be fired, and VW ordered to pay the $14 Billion dollar fine or whatever it was. Congrats to the EPA for catching this scam.

CurrentlySober · 09-22-2015, 01:26 PM

i cant afford a VW anyway...

crockett · 09-22-2015, 01:27 PM

I wonder if they are just the tip of the iceberg and have other manufacturers being doing it as well.

Sly · 09-22-2015, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

I wonder if they are just the tip of the iceberg and have other manufacturers being doing it as well.

Chevy Volt owners would be devastated.

MiamiBoyz · 09-22-2015, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

I wonder if they are just the tip of the iceberg and have other manufacturers being doing it as well.

Of course everybody lies. People - governments - corporations - religions.

pornmasta · 09-22-2015, 01:35 PM

dyna mo · 09-22-2015, 01:41 PM

German engineering!

Paul&John · 09-22-2015, 01:42 PM

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European governments launching their own investigations.[/url]

They did knew about it

Via google translator:

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The technique for engine manipulation is known in Berlin and Brussels for some time. This is a paper from the Ministry of Transport. That still nothing happened, keep the Greens for a scandal.

VW-Skandal: Bundesregierung wusste von Abgas-Betrug - DIE WELT

PS: maybe this will be a great time to buy some VW stocks ;)
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crockett · 09-22-2015, 01:44 PM

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Of course everybody lies. People - governments - corporations - religions.

The kicker is, who the hell would be a dumb ass and take their car to be "fixed" so it gets worse mpg..

CDSmith · 09-22-2015, 01:55 PM

Volksvagon
das bankrupt.

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Paz · 09-22-2015, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Facing up to $18 billion in EPA fines alone.

Yup then they'll have to pay for recalls and maybe class action lawsuits - we bought a VW diesel because we were told it was a green car....

No wonder the share price dropped by 30%. I still think that they'll shrug it off.

pornmasta · 09-22-2015, 02:11 PM

btw, someone asked me if it's the good moment to buy a car (drop of the price).
What's your opinion ?

shake · 09-22-2015, 02:26 PM

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btw, someone asked me if it's the good moment to buy a car (drop of the price).
What's your opinion ?

Sure. They are still pretty good cars and great on fuel, just not so good for smog / pollution.

The Porn Nerd · 09-22-2015, 03:03 PM

Hitler would be so proud.

Choopa Phil · 09-22-2015, 03:05 PM

I cant imagine what thats going to do to the resale value of those cars. VW's never really did anything for me anyway so no loss there!

Rochard · 09-22-2015, 04:45 PM

Amazing. They had a device installed in certain cars that cheated on emissions tests?

And got caught? Fucking funny.

Joshua G · 09-22-2015, 05:20 PM

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they should all apologize, all be fired, and VW ordered to pay the $14 Billion dollar fine or whatever it was. Congrats to the EPA for catching this scam.

the only scam is pollution limits with no science to back them up. VW did nothing wrong. They should pay nobody anything, because nobody got harmed, not even a fish. & liberals should apologize for inconveniencing them with unnecessary regulations that cause customers to have sluggish cars, so mark prince can feel like he's helping the environment. kudos to german engineering.

crockett · 09-22-2015, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

the only scam is pollution limits with no science to back them up. VW did nothing wrong. They should pay nobody anything, because nobody got harmed, not even a fish. & liberals should apologize for inconveniencing them with unnecessary regulations that cause customers to have sluggish cars, so mark prince can feel like he's helping the environment. kudos to german engineering.

Someone smoked a bit too much crack today..

TCLGirls · 09-22-2015, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

the only scam is pollution limits with no science to back them up. VW did nothing wrong. They should pay nobody anything, because nobody got harmed, not even a fish. & liberals should apologize for inconveniencing them with unnecessary regulations that cause customers to have sluggish cars, so mark prince can feel like he's helping the environment. kudos to german engineering.

In this thread, Joshua G teaches us that lying is not wrong.

SpicyM · 09-22-2015, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

They had a device installed in certain cars that cheated on emissions tests?

No extra device, just the car software detecting emission checking and adjusting the engine settings causing that emissions were temporarily lower.

Joshua G · 09-22-2015, 05:44 PM

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Someone smoked a bit too much crack today..

name 1 single animal or plant or form of life that was in any way impacted, nevermind harmed, by excess NOx.

this is just another muslim suitcase clock. liberal hysteria over NOTHING.

TCLGirls · 09-22-2015, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

name 1 single animal or plant or form of life that was in any way impacted, nevermind harmed, by excess NOx.

this is just another muslim suitcase clock. liberal hysteria over NOTHING.

In this thread Joshua G teaches us that breaking Federal law equates to "nothing".

dyna mo · 09-22-2015, 05:48 PM

are there car guys like volkswagons?

crockett · 09-22-2015, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

name 1 single animal or plant or form of life that was in any way impacted, nevermind harmed, by excess NOx.

this is just another muslim suitcase clock. liberal hysteria over NOTHING.

Then why are you whining so much?

j3rkules · 09-22-2015, 05:52 PM

Make them buy back every car under the Lemon Laws in each state.

TCLGirls · 09-22-2015, 05:52 PM

Joshua G sounds like another DINDO NUFFIN supporter.

Volkswagon? They dindo nuffins!!!

TCLGirls · 09-22-2015, 05:56 PM

"I promise you I will not rest until i find the junior engineer who perpetrated this world wide fraudulent scheme!!"

Sincerely, Martin Winterkorn VW CEO.

L-Pink · 09-22-2015, 06:00 PM

So ... Fix your VW and global warming will be over. Sweet.

Joshua G · 09-22-2015, 06:00 PM

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In this thread Joshua G teaches us that breaking Federal law equates to "nothing".

its federal nonsense. non-violent civil disobedience of laws that restrain rights is a cherished tool towards freedom. or are you opposed to martin luther king?

when trump wins the throne, its game over for liberals.

TCLGirls · 09-22-2015, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

its federal nonsense. non-violent civil disobedience of laws that restrain rights is a cherished tool towards freedom. or are you opposed to martin luther king?

when trump wins the throne, its game over for liberals.

Difference is MLK was willing to go to jail for violating laws. Not so much for VW's CEO...not to mention that a multinational corporation violating air polution laws has nothing to do with civil rights.

Joshua G · 09-22-2015, 06:09 PM

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Difference is MLK was willing to go to jail for violating laws. Not so much for VW's CEO...not to mention that a multinational corporation violating air polution laws has nothing to do with civil rights.

air pollution laws are fake, as was jim crow laws. both are protesting needless oppression & the oppressor is wrong. you are wrong.

TCLGirls · 09-22-2015, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

air pollution laws are fake, as was jim crow laws. both are protesting needless oppression & the oppressor is wrong. you are wrong.

First you made some sort of bizarre analogy between VW's law breaking and MLK/civil rights...

When the VW CEO agrees to serve jail time like MLK...and when violating air pollution laws somehow benefit individual civil rights, then maybe you would have a point.

candyflip · 09-22-2015, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

are there car guys like volkswagons?

Aren't they also Audi, Porsche and Lambourghini? The fallout from this could effect all of those brands as well.

crockett · 09-22-2015, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

are there car guys like volkswagons?

TDI diesels get put into a lot of stuff. They are becoming popular engine swaps for the Jeep guys as well as Toyotas that had the old 22R's even. They are pretty much a perfect diesel swap for a lot of 4x4s and cars as well.

ctggls · 09-22-2015, 06:23 PM

Well, I'm sure some of the guys at VW are not getting their 8 hours per night sleep right now...

Joshua G · 09-22-2015, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

First you made some sort of bizarre analogy between VW's law breaking and MLK/civil rights...

When the VW CEO agrees to serve jail time like MLK...and when violating air pollution laws somehow benefit individual civil rights, then maybe you would have a point.

forget jail time. MLK paid with his life. & suggestions are being made about bankrupting volkswagen. for what? for giving their drivers a civil right of a better performing car thats being needlessly restricted by a pollution law thats based on nothing but the liberal agenda. Liberals want to kill volkswagen for violating the liberal agenda.

rather than tearing my point down, you should try to defend yours...the NOx level. what specific got harmed by VWs exhaust? name 1 thing got harmed, other than liberals dumb pollution setting.

TCLGirls · 09-22-2015, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Aren't they also Audi, Porsche and Lambourghini? The fallout from this could effect all of those brands as well.

Apparently this fraud covers all their diesel engine cars from 2015 back to 2009. I don't think Lambo or Porsche sells a consumer product using that diesel engine...in the US at least (I could be wrong)...but Audi sure does.

I think Porsche and Lambo name could easily survive this scandal (under a new owner perhaps) given their reputation and if none of their cars actually had the diesel engine in question.

TCLGirls · 09-22-2015, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

forget jail time. MLK paid with his life. & suggestions are being made about bankrupting volkswagen. for what? for giving their drivers a civil right of a better performing car thats being needlessly restricted by a pollution law thats based on nothing but the liberal agenda. Liberals want to kill volkswagen for violating the liberal agenda.

rather than tearing my point down, you should try to defend yours...the NOx level. what specific got harmed by VWs exhaust? name 1 thing got harmed, other than liberals dumb pollution setting.

I don't think you know what a civil right is.

TCLGirls · 09-22-2015, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

for giving their drivers a civil right of a better performing car thats being needlessly restricted by a pollution law thats based on nothing but the liberal agenda. Liberals want to kill volkswagen for violating the liberal agenda.

"A civil right is an enforceable right or privilege, which if interfered with by another gives rise to an action for injury. Examples of civil rights are freedom of speech, press, and assembly; the right to vote; freedom from involuntary servitude; and the right to equality in public places"
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/civil_rights

Can you provide a cite...any cite...that says an example of a civil right is the ability to own a "better performing car" absent any government air pollution regulations??

Joshua G · 09-22-2015, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

I don't think you know what a civil right is.

i dont think you can name 1 life form that was inconvenienced or harmed by volkswagen.

dyna mo · 09-22-2015, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Aren't they also Audi, Porsche and Lambourghini? The fallout from this could effect all of those brands as well.

vw had also just moved into the #1 carmaker on the planet this year. they've been on that mission for quite awhile now, thus buying all those marks. and a few more i think.

TCLGirls · 09-22-2015, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

i dont think you can name 1 life form that was inconvenienced or harmed by volkswagen.

I never claimed anyone was directly harmed. You were the one that claimed driving a "better performing car" absent government regulation is a civil right. Care to provide some cites for your assertion? I mean if you did not just pull that out of your ass, then I am sure there are some like minded individuals somewhere that share your ideas...right?

dyna mo · 09-22-2015, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

TDI diesels get put into a lot of stuff. They are becoming popular engine swaps for the Jeep guys as well as Toyotas that had the old 22R's even. They are pretty much a perfect diesel swap for a lot of 4x4s and cars as well.

i was being funny, for myself. haha. i'd take a scirroco

Joshua G · 09-22-2015, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Can you provide a cite...any cite...that says an example of a civil right is the ability to own a "better performing car" absent any government air pollution regulations??

i need a website to verify my civil right to a better performing car? i actually have to explain that to you?

is it somehow in the public interest to restrict my right to a better performing car? I have already claimed that the law is based not on any science. just the liberal agenda.

otherwise, start naming what got harmed by VW's NOx emission.

candyflip · 09-22-2015, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Apparently this fraud covers all their diesel engine cars from 2015 back to 2009. I don't think Lambo or Porsche sells a consumer product using that diesel engine...in the US at least (I could be wrong)...but Audi sure does.

I think Porsche and Lambo name could easily survive this scandal (under a new owner perhaps) given their reputation and if none of their cars actually had the diesel engine in question.

Yeah...Audi may have a diesel. I don't think here in the U.S. though.

I was strictly speaking if it effecting the other brands, but like you said...they word survive under some other umbrella as well.

TCLGirls · 09-22-2015, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

i need a website to verify my civil right to a better performing car? i actually have to explain that to you?

Yes, because I have never heard anyone say such a thing is a civil right. So if what you are saying is true, then it should be very easy for you to cite some source to back up your assertion. That's if you did not just pull it out of your ass.

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

is it somehow in the public interest to restrict my right to a better performing car? I have already claimed that the law is based not on any science. just the liberal agenda.

otherwise, start naming what got harmed by VW's NOx emission.

Yes it is in the public interest, because that "liberal agenda" was in-acted by politicians who the public voted for. if you do not like what the politicians in-acted, then vote in different politicians. Or take it up in the court system. if you lose on both grounds, then tough shit for you.

SpicyM · 09-22-2015, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Apparently this fraud covers all their diesel engine cars from 2015 back to 2009.

No, just the cars having the engine with codename "EA 189" as they claim.

Which is still a shitload.

Joshua G · 09-22-2015, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Yes, because I have never heard anyone say such a thing is a civil right. So if what you are saying is true, then it should be very easy for you to cite some source to back up your assertion. That's if you did not just pull it out of your ass.

Yes it is in the public interest, because that "liberal agenda" was in-acted by politicians who the public voted for. if you do not like what the politicians in-acted, then vote in different politicians. Or take it up in the court system. if you lose on both grounds, then tough shit for you.

you are trying to interject a point i never made. i simply said i have a right to a better performing car. I never said that "absent government regulations" please recheck my writing you will see you made that part up yourself.

& i vote republican everytime. but here in NY, its pretty much a wasted vote. No worries. when trump gets the white house, he will waive this nonsense away. This is the type of stuff donald says holds america back, & he's right. This is a waste of volkswagens time.

otherwise, start defending how the EPA NOx level directly effects humanity. or are you gonna start spilling the whole climate change crap.

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