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Old 10-15-2015, 09:03 PM   #1
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China Will Use Force If US Sends Military

China Says Military Will "Stand Up And Use Force" If US Sends Warships To Islands | Zero Hedge

"China mustn't tolerate rampant US violations of China's adjacent waters and the skies over those expanding islands," it said, adding that its military should "be ready to launch counter measures according to Washington's level of provocation," it added.

That's another fine war we're almost entangled into.
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Maybe China should just set up and embargo and stop all shipments of Iphones to the US.
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- Very true. Klown Posse in charge is just dying to go to war, any way, anywhere... Its pretty damn alarming.
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been stocked since 2000 get a wind radio and flashlight. get a gas mask don't need to say guns. just hope im awake when things go south.
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Possibly the start of WW3 and the top news spot is Lamar Odom and the Kardashians
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When you build up massive armies in Risk, you have to whittle them down against other large armies on your borders or you will run out of pieces and have to use another color.
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When you build up massive armies in Risk, you have to whittle them down against other large armies on your borders or you will run out of pieces and have to use another color.
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This sounds like it was a great joke but totally wasted on me....

Chinese media: military must be ready to counter US in South China Sea | World news | The Guardian
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Chinese media: military must be ready to counter US in South China Sea | World news | The Guardian
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China's Asian neighbors feel threatened -- this is what this is about. The Chinese need to clarify their military intentions to the world's satisfaction -- or the Chinese will face opposing military challenges. Ever seen a ''Chinese fire drill?" No one is threatening China so why are they physically expanding these islands in disputed waters for military use?
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Possibly the start of WW3 and the top news spot is Lamar Odom and the Kardashians
In the eyes of an alarmist everything is 'possibly the start of WW3' even incidents involving kardashians...
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Possibly the start of WW3 and the top news spot is Lamar Odom and the Kardashians
Here the top news slot is a university and several schools on lockdown.

In other words...just another typical day.
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american logic: we have our terrorist army all over the world but if china wants to do just a tiny part of what we do, we find it very very wrong
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China could never go to war with the United States. The moment they did, their economy would fall apart.
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like yours?

heres how to make the US debt smaller: use power towers

US debt: 19,5*10^10

looks pretty small to me

Its a good thing your economy is obviously winning and you would not feel a war with China
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Yeah, and in other news of the day, a million lemmings veered right instead of proceeding forward and did not plunge over a cliff.

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China's Asian neighbors feel threatened -- this is what this is about. The Chinese need to clarify their military intentions to the world's satisfaction -- or the Chinese will face opposing military challenges. Ever seen a ''Chinese fire drill?" No one is threatening China so why are they physically expanding these islands in disputed waters for military use?
You have no clue whats going on with China or in the region. But please, do carry on.
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The first time I ever saw Chinese "consumer goods" was a display in a Zurich department store in 1980. At the time, the US sensibly excluded imports from hostile Communist countries who paid workers slave wages. The products amounted to crude iron anvils, pipe wrenches, and the like. Over the decades, fat cat US industrialists, anxious to avoid paying a living wage to US factory workers, got the exclusion eliminated and started economic co-operation with the Reds that has hurt the American standard of living and the middle class way of life in huge ways. US companies buckled to Chinese companies because they understood that US intellectual property law is mainly toothless to practically deal with foreign infringers except for the deepest of pockets, they ceased US manufacture of such things as rotisserie ovens and lava lights, and took pennies on the dollar from the Chinese manufacturers. Now all those Chinese profits are building a huge military force which inevitably will be used against us.
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The world is not a playground... Do you think the wealth of the West is here because everyone else grants us from the goodness of their hearts because they love us? It's kill or be killed and eat or get eaten... I'm sorry for you Serbia missed the March of Civilization...

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like yours?

heres how to make the US debt smaller: use power towers

US debt: 19,5*10^10

looks pretty small to me

Its a good thing your economy is obviously winning and you would not feel a war with China

How do you get internet in that fucking dump

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Let's imagine what would happen if China went to war with the United States. Instantly, all trade between the two countries would stop. Instantly. Americans would no longer be able to buy their crap from China. Money would stop flowing into China, and the United States would be forced to produce it's own crap. Businesses in China would close, and people would loose their jobs. In the mean time, in the United States, we would have to start producing our own stuff again - new businesses would open, new jobs would be created, and American money would stay in America.

This is why China - the only country in the world with the military might to take on the United States - will never ever go to war with the United States.
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Let's imagine what would happen if China went to war with the United States. Instantly, all trade between the two countries would stop. Instantly. Americans would no longer be able to buy their crap from China. Money would stop flowing into China, and the United States would be forced to produce it's own crap. Businesses in China would close, and people would loose their jobs. In the mean time, in the United States, we would have to start producing our own stuff again - new businesses would open, new jobs would be created, and American money would stay in America.

This is why China - the only country in the world with the military might to take on the United States - will never ever go to war with the United States.
Maybe you're right. Maybe.

But before I'd sign on, I'd like to see what part of German, Japanese, and Italian exports were going to the US in the years before 1942 - and I'd like to know the volume of Chinese exports to other nations. That, and a consideration of how Chinese military power could be used antagonistically/in a threatening way to the US in a limited fashion to control our own choices and behavior.
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been stocked since 2000 get a wind radio and flashlight. get a gas mask don't need to say guns. just hope im awake when things go south.
Do you also have a bunker hidden in the woods somewhere, maybe with a fake rock covering the hatch?
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hey china, we need more calgon! back to work.

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Little to do with Murica consumerism of Chinese shit products, which by the way are on the wane. A lot of production has moved to Viet Nam, who are not friends with China.

Has much more to do with how much American debt, as in bonds, which China owns.
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Let's imagine what would happen if China went to war with the United States. Instantly, all trade between the two countries would stop. Instantly. Americans would no longer be able to buy their crap from China. Money would stop flowing into China, and the United States would be forced to produce it's own crap. Businesses in China would close, and people would loose their jobs. In the mean time, in the United States, we would have to start producing our own stuff again - new businesses would open, new jobs would be created, and American money would stay in America.

This is why China - the only country in the world with the military might to take on the United States - will never ever go to war with the United States.
You just don't understand what's going on.
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Maybe you're right. Maybe.

But before I'd sign on, I'd like to see what part of German, Japanese, and Italian exports were going to the US in the years before 1942 - and I'd like to know the volume of Chinese exports to other nations. That, and a consideration of how Chinese military power could be used antagonistically/in a threatening way to the US in a limited fashion to control our own choices and behavior.
Go you one better...

Tell me the last century where the Chinese truly invaded any country... not talking about little border and territorial dispute skirmishes that lasted a day or a few weeks either, but actual invasion, with all branches of the military involved, and long term dominion and or occupation established.

Saying the Chinese will resort to any sort of major military conquest is imho, based on study of their history and philosophy and culture, nothing short of absurd.

Simply put, it is not in their cultural DNA.
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well, then it's on because that's exactly what we're going to do. we'll be sailing a fleet around that mother fucker like a boss.

and heads-up China, we didn't mind it a couple weeks ago when you did your aleuttian islands drive-by.

and from what i understand, the chinese are interested in natural resources there in that sea, thus the island building.

A group of Chinese naval vessels transited U.S. territorial waters near Alaska this week, a Pentagon official said Friday, in an unusual maneuver that underscores the potential for increased U.S.-Chinese friction at sea.

A U.S. military official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss details of the Chinese naval movements, said the group of five Chinese vessels had passed within about 12 nautical miles of the Aleutian Islands after a joint Russian-Chinese military exercise.
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Maybe you're right. Maybe.

But before I'd sign on, I'd like to see what part of German, Japanese, and Italian exports were going to the US in the years before 1942 - and I'd like to know the volume of Chinese exports to other nations. That, and a consideration of how Chinese military power could be used antagonistically/in a threatening way to the US in a limited fashion to control our own choices and behavior.
Sure. What percentage of German, Japanese, and Italian exports were coming to the US in the years before 1942? (Did you mean 1941 perhaps?) I am pretty sure that Japan's economy wasn't built on making goods and exporting them to the United States. Nor was Germany.

If the United States and China got into a shooting war in the South Pacific.... that would shut down the bulk of trade with China instantly. Cargo ships don't like going through battlefields.
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and what China will do if sends to the USA army there?
to shoot at the American ships?
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Let's imagine what would happen if China went to war with the United States. Instantly, all trade between the two countries would stop. Instantly. Americans would no longer be able to buy their crap from China.
That's nonsense because its a two way thing and a far bigger problem for the US than for China. If the US has to produce more of its own goods (because other partners don't have the same capacity as China does), the cost of those goods will rise significantly in dollar terms which "potentially" can hit consumption.

More importantly, a huge percentage of US GDP is consumption which would not occur were it not for money lent to the US by other countries like China which is the largest holder of US debt. China can pull the plug at any time and recently sold around 10% of its US treasuries but it could sink the US dollar any time it wanted either by selling them outright or else by backing its currency with gold which would be a game changer for the USD.

Finally, China is basically manufacturer to the world and the US is one of the most important export partners but not the only one. USA represents around 16% of the export total and that number is shrinking every year.

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China will never start a war with the United States because its a peaceful nation and would not be provocative which is why China, like Russia, generally won't encircle the US or stray into US territories. The US would have to positively SLAP that beehive to get stung very badly but then its Russia & China versus the USA.

China will never start a war with the United States but the United States will start a war with China or Russia at the drop of a hat.

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Let's imagine what would happen if China went to war with the United States. Instantly, all trade between the two countries would stop. Instantly. Americans would no longer be able to buy their crap from China. Money would stop flowing into China, and the United States would be forced to produce it's own crap. Businesses in China would close, and people would loose their jobs. In the mean time, in the United States, we would have to start producing our own stuff again - new businesses would open, new jobs would be created, and American money would stay in America.

This is why China - the only country in the world with the military might to take on the United States - will never ever go to war with the United States.
its sounds like a bad joke but do you know what american corporations can not afford? A: to employ americans production will never move back to the USA and you know it...it would go to africa or india, but now you have china making its own shit and being super competitive ect...no US fat cat corporates to feed no intellectual property no regulations ect...

its nice that you guys fancy yourselves as some mighty military ect, but if you look at vietnam, korea, avghanistan, iraq, lybia ect you wonder how much the USA would fuck up with going to war with china ooooooo my goooood world fuck up level: USA
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and what China will do if sends to the USA army there?
With US Warships En Route To Islands, China Asks: "What On Earth Makes Them Think We Will Tolerate This?" | Zero Hedge
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