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EddyTheDog · 10-17-2015, 07:04 PM

MindGeek Files Infringement Suit Against XVideos.com Parent - XBIZ.com

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LOS ANGELES -- Adult entertainment conglomerate MindGeek filed a lawsuit this week in Los Angeles federal court against the operators of XNXX.com and XVideos.com, claiming the tube sites streamed its content in excess of 100 million times without authorization.

Oh the irony...

L-Pink · 10-17-2015, 07:07 PM

There really needs to be a special place in hell ...

SBJ · 10-17-2015, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

There really needs to be a special place in hell ...

there is.. My family runs it till I get there

brassmonkey · 10-17-2015, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SBJ

there is.. My family runs it till I get there

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vegasbobby · 10-17-2015, 07:40 PM

I was reading through the lawsuit. I found some interesting points. One is for each violation they're asking four hundred and $150,000. To they're actually saying that they own some of the content because they own those studios. So they're coming from the point of view as the content creator. So with that in mind. If mindgeek is successful with this lawsuit against the two tube sites. They might end up opening the door for all of the other companies to sue all the other tubes sites. This should be very interesting. Because what has not happened is enough lawsuits to really determine what the law is and give precedences where people can site. I dare say that this lawsuit might backfire. And create a way for people to stop tube sites.

ReggieDurango · 10-17-2015, 07:56 PM

So unbelievable on so many levels

arock10 · 10-17-2015, 07:58 PM

I'd guess trying to force the sale to them

EddyTheDog · 10-17-2015, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10

I'd guess trying to force the sale to them

The more I think about it the more I think you are correct...

j3rkules · 10-18-2015, 02:06 AM

Sign of the time...

Oracle Porn · 10-18-2015, 02:35 AM

dont get your panties in a bunch, it never plays out and always settled

Phoenix · 10-18-2015, 04:29 AM

OMG
lol
This is too rich

ITraffic · 10-18-2015, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

dont get your panties in a bunch, it never plays out and always settled

yes literally every time.

Barry-xlovecam · 10-18-2015, 05:44 AM

Dogs eating other Dogs

DVTimes · 10-18-2015, 05:48 AM

Interesting stuff.

JuicyBunny · 10-18-2015, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10

I'd guess trying to force the sale to them

Or to mitigate the cost of lawsuits coming their way.
Adds up.

poncabare · 10-18-2015, 07:04 AM

Wait... What?

Best-In-BC · 10-18-2015, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by vegasbobby

I was reading through the lawsuit. I found some interesting points. One is for each violation they're asking four hundred and $150,000. To they're actually saying that they own some of the content because they own those studios. So they're coming from the point of view as the content creator. So with that in mind. If mindgeek is successful with this lawsuit against the two tube sites. They might end up opening the door for all of the other companies to sue all the other tubes sites. This should be very interesting. Because what has not happened is enough lawsuits to really determine what the law is and give precedences where people can site. I dare say that this lawsuit might backfire. And create a way for people to stop tube sites.

Hope soo

EliteWebmaster · 10-18-2015, 07:54 AM

My money is on MindGeek "winning" this case however it plays out when it gets settled

Adraco · 10-18-2015, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10

I'd guess trying to force the sale to them

Yeah, if you can't buy them out - then bore them out. Tie them up inside a courtroom forever, make them spend a fortune defending themselves and sooner or later the current owner will grow tired of it all and fold.

ITraffic · 10-18-2015, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Adraco

Yeah, if you can't buy them out - then bore them out. Tie them up inside a courtroom forever, make them spend a fortune defending themselves and sooner or later the current owner will grow tired of it all and fold.

all the big tubes have been sued countless times in similar lawsuits. which one has ever folded because of it?

Adraco · 10-18-2015, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ITraffic

all the big tubes have been sued countless times in similar lawsuits. which one has ever folded because of it?

Wow! You must be slow. But since I have s lot of time tonight I will explain it further for you.

Assuming MG still wants to buy xvideos and xnxx as Fabian Thylmann has mentioned several times before (I know he then left the company). The tactics then, since an outright purchase has been declined, would be to bully and bore your counterpart into folding their hand and give up their position. In the end game, agree to sell and thereby fold.

CaptainHowdy · 10-18-2015, 01:42 PM

The Porn Nerd · 10-18-2015, 02:17 PM

I would expect an xvideos countersuit.

Robbie · 10-18-2015, 02:34 PM

Fucking thieves fighting amongst themselves.
Good.

And after they've spent money fighting...I hope the govt.'s of the world FINALLY put an end to ALL the copyright infringements and shut them all down.

JFK · 10-18-2015, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

dont get your panties in a bunch, it never plays out and always settled

So true

RyuLion · 10-18-2015, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

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Rabid dogs eating other rabid dogs is good..

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bns666 · 10-18-2015, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

I would expect an xvideos countersuit.

SomeCreep · 10-18-2015, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

MindGeek Files Infringement Suit Against XVideos.com Parent - XBIZ.com

Oh the irony...

Haha, what a bunch of fucking assholes. Mindgeek, who are the owners of pornhub and all of the biggest tubes on the net filing suit against xvideos. This is all politics. I have no doubt that at some point mindgeek made an offer to buy xvideos and was rejected. Fuck all these tube owner assholes. They killed the industry.

SomeCreep · 10-18-2015, 04:29 PM

Both companies have all the money in the world to pursue litigation. Mark my words, in the end, the only ones who will win will be the lawyers.

Magnetron · 10-19-2015, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ass Kissing Manwin/Mindgeek Apologist

There's a big difference between Mindgeek suing a tube company and Met-Art suing Mindgeek!!!

Met-Art doesn't accept your user uploads?

Remember now when someone else sues, it's called a failed business model.

kane · 10-19-2015, 04:14 AM

This reminds me of Cheech and Chong's Next Movie where Cheech says, "Somebody ripped off the thing I ripped off!"

fris · 10-19-2015, 09:23 AM

xvideos owner is a dbag when requestibg content be removed he acted like it was not his fault and really arrogant about it ge even had a notice on his dmca page years ago saying if your content is on the site a big fu to them check archive.org

blackmonsters · 10-19-2015, 11:25 AM

Reminds me of the time youtube flagged my video for copyright infringement.

Ross · 10-19-2015, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by arock10

I'd guess trying to force the sale to them

Xvideos is the biggest porn site on the internet, XNXX is almost the size of Pornhub. I doubt that is the play here.

arock10 · 10-19-2015, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross

Xvideos is the biggest porn site on the internet, XNXX is almost the size of Pornhub. I doubt that is the play here.

I dunno, sounds like the kind of thing they like to buy... considering they've tried to buy it before

No way mind geek sees this all the way through to a verdict, so they are trying to force some sort of goal/settlement

mikesouth · 10-19-2015, 12:48 PM

Im getting conflicting info on this but something for sure isnt passing the sniff test...heres my post on it from today

from MikeSouth.Com

No sooner had I announced that Hush Hush Entertainment was suing Manwin/MindGeek than I see AVN and XBiz runnind stories about MindGeek suing Xvideos. This raised a million red flags for me that apparently XBiz and AVN cant see, but lets look at it closely.

First if you read the Mindgeek lawsuit it reads almost identical to the one filed by Hush Hush Entertainment. I am not at all saying its the same, far from it. What I am saying is that MindGeek is alleging that Xvideos is doing EXACTLY the same thing that HHE alleges that MindGeek is doing. The first thing that popped into my mind is how could Mindgeek hope to prevail on both fronts.

Now here is the back story that you wont read on AVN or XBiz because they are completely in MindGeeks Pocket.

You see back in the days when Fabian was fronting for Manwin one of the targets that Manwin wanted badly was Xvideos.com, one of the few tubesites that was arguably larger than pornhub. Xvideos also owns xnxx.com yet another large tube site. When manwin tried to purchase them they were basically told to go away, not gonna happen.

Well that didnt stop Manwin, now Mindgeek from still coveting the sites and brands. A solid source inside MindGeek tells me that this lawsuit is a strongarm tactic to force xvideos to sell.

Another source tells me that the sale is already a done deal and that the lawsuit is a diversionary tactic to get a legal precedent that would help to shield MindGeek from future lawsuits like the ones filed by MetArt and HHE.

As I have pointed out these guys have found MindGeeks soft spot, that being a court ordered discovery in which Manwin is forced to open their financials to scrutiny, and even though MetArt claims otherwise Its pretty much a guarantee that MetArt was paid well to settle and I expect HHE has the same expectations, I will be surprised if Mindgeek doesn?t settle this one quietly but doing so is sending a message to everyone that MindGeek has stolen from and Mindgeeks worst nightmare is that they will line up around the corner with civil suits for copyright infringement. Watch this Xvideos lawsuit very carefully. I suspect it will tell us an awful lot about Mindgeek.

And for the record, I applaud HHE loudly?I dont care if they do settle it? every single dime taken back from Manwin/MindGeek is a win for the people they stole from I hope MindGeek ends up feeling like they are being pecked to death by ducks.

Thats my $0.02 on it.

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mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,346	Im getting conflicting info on this but something for sure isnt passing the sniff test...heres my post on it from today from MikeSouth.Com No sooner had I announced that Hush Hush Entertainment was suing Manwin/MindGeek than I see AVN and XBiz runnind stories about MindGeek suing Xvideos. This raised a million red flags for me that apparently XBiz and AVN cant see, but lets look at it closely. First if you read the Mindgeek lawsuit it reads almost identical to the one filed by Hush Hush Entertainment. I am not at all saying its the same, far from it. What I am saying is that MindGeek is alleging that Xvideos is doing EXACTLY the same thing that HHE alleges that MindGeek is doing. The first thing that popped into my mind is how could Mindgeek hope to prevail on both fronts. Now here is the back story that you wont read on AVN or XBiz because they are completely in MindGeeks Pocket. You see back in the days when Fabian was fronting for Manwin one of the targets that Manwin wanted badly was Xvideos.com, one of the few tubesites that was arguably larger than pornhub. Xvideos also owns xnxx.com yet another large tube site. When manwin tried to purchase them they were basically told to go away, not gonna happen. Well that didnt stop Manwin, now Mindgeek from still coveting the sites and brands. A solid source inside MindGeek tells me that this lawsuit is a strongarm tactic to force xvideos to sell. Another source tells me that the sale is already a done deal and that the lawsuit is a diversionary tactic to get a legal precedent that would help to shield MindGeek from future lawsuits like the ones filed by MetArt and HHE. As I have pointed out these guys have found MindGeeks soft spot, that being a court ordered discovery in which Manwin is forced to open their financials to scrutiny, and even though MetArt claims otherwise Its pretty much a guarantee that MetArt was paid well to settle and I expect HHE has the same expectations, I will be surprised if Mindgeek doesn?t settle this one quietly but doing so is sending a message to everyone that MindGeek has stolen from and Mindgeeks worst nightmare is that they will line up around the corner with civil suits for copyright infringement. Watch this Xvideos lawsuit very carefully. I suspect it will tell us an awful lot about Mindgeek. And for the record, I applaud HHE loudly?I dont care if they do settle it? every single dime taken back from Manwin/MindGeek is a win for the people they stole from I hope MindGeek ends up feeling like they are being pecked to death by ducks. Thats my $0.02 on it. __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.