News Did James Deen Rape Story?

[Kelli58]

This may have very well been the hardest post I've ever written. It's a fucked up story about the very serious issue of rape and abuse that goes on behind the scenes and that nobody ever wants to talk about.

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HOLY FUCK?!?! Did James Deen Rape Stoya? | LUKE IS BACK

HOLY FUCK?!?! Did James Deen Rape Stoya?

Earlier this year I got into a pissing match about the subject of rape in porn with a guy in the industry named Stewart aka Relentless, who owns a company called Engine Food and Website Secure. He actually went as far as to try and use his position as a Community Ambassador to try and get me banned from the xbiz.net community because I reported on this site what he said in regards to his views. When confronted, I refused to back down because to me, rape isn?t a subject matter to take lightly.

Now in the matter of Stewart and I, we were both being immature little ass hates debating the subject of fictional or simulated rape. Not even something that was real. Because truth is, nobody in our industry should ever have to debate the horror that is real rape. So both Stewart and I were free to fight to the bloody virtual death over a subject matter that wasn?t really real. We were fighting over a concept not a reality.

But not everyone is so lucky. Sometimes the very real issue of rape, not on camera acting, rears its ugly head. And that is not okay.

The first time I heard about a girl getting raped on set I couldn?t even wrap my head around it. I was sure there was no way in hell such a story could be true. Surely in our industry, one that prides itself in putting women first, would never have such issues.

I was wrong.

By the time I heard about a second girl being raped (by someone completely different and unrelated to the first incident), the guy who was accused of raping the first girl I had heard about was arrested on a college campus after being accused of raping another girl. Only this time the girl wasn?t some porn star, she was a sorority sister, and so the police took her complaint serious.

I begged the second girl to go to the police. I was naive and stupid. I really believed that if a girl was brutally raped and beaten the police would do something, right? I was wrong. Oh so fucking wrong. They were really ass holes about it and that moment in my life really changed the way I viewed the police as a whole.

With the help of some wonderful people in the industry, they were able to help the girl in question. She?s no longer in porn and from what I understand just finished a two year nurses aid program.

Why am I telling you all this story? Because I want you to understand that rape isn?t something that doesn?t happen in our industry ? it?s just something that nobody ever talks about. It sure as fuck does happen and you know what? It happened recently to Christy Mack.

That was probably the first time in the last 20 years that I?ve been in the industry, that it not only happened but was openly talked about. Christy Mack was brutally beaten and raped by her ex-boyfriend, War Machine. He is currently on trial for that crime, among others. His defense was that it doesn?t count as rape because she?s a porn star and likes it like that.

A former MMA fighter accused of the attempted rape and murder of his ex-girlfriend has claimed he could not have sexually assaulted her because of the work she did as an adult film actress. Mr Sua also claimed her performances showed ?the desire, the preference, the acceptability towards a particular form of sex activities that were outside of the norm?.

Ms Bluth responded: ?Because she consented to those acts through her course of employment does not mean the defendant is then entitled to think he can do that to her.? Mack, 24, was hospitalised with a lacerated liver, 18 broken bones and two teeth missing following the alleged brutal assault.
Koppenhaver is accused of letting himself into her house and assaulting Mack and her friend Corey Thomas, who was staying over at the time.

Koppenhaver, 33, broke into the room and started beating Thomas first, according to Mack?s account of the night. Mack immediately dialled 911 and left the phone beside the bed throughout the incident. A voice can be heard screaming in disturbing footage from the call featured in the segment. Source [The Independent UK]

That story on its own is about as fucked up as it gets ? you would think. But then you would be wrong. Because the accusations of rape didn?t end there.

Just a few days later news broke that Stoya was raped by her then boyfriend James Deen. The one guy, most people look to as THE it guy in the industry.

Let me be clear here ?. no one rape is worse than another. Every rape is fucked up. Every person who has to go through this is a victim equally. It?s just that sometimes a story comes out and you don?t expect it. Case in point ? you hear Charlie Sheen is HIV positive and you can?t help but think, yeah we all kind of seen that one coming.

But you hear the industry darling might have raped another industry icon and you can?t help but be a little shocked by it.

Not saying that ANYONE EVER deserves to be raped or you would expect someone to rape anyone. OMG NEVER! I?m just saying that never in a zillion years did I expect to wake up one day and hear the news that James Deen was being accused of rape. I don?t know why. I just didn?t.

I want to leave you with Stoya?s own words. They are powerful and they should be taken serious. It doesn?t matter if she is or was a porn star. It doesn?t matter if she previously consented. No means no, even if she is a porn star. Never forget that. NO MEANS NO.

@Stoya: ?That thing where you log in to the internet for a second and see people idolizing the guy who raped you as a feminist. That thing sucks. James Deen held me down and fucked me while I said no, stop, used my safeword. I just can?t nod and smile when people bring him up anymore.?

[Grapesoda]

don't sound like James to me..... James is VERY professional from all accounts, and please remember I speak with girls that work with James everyday...

[CaptainHowdy]

Never date a pornstar ...

[ITraffic]

i think every sex worker on the planet was on social media talking about it yesterday.

[Ferus]

ohh another captain-save-a-ho wannabe. How many times have this shit been regurgitated.

The fact you have to add the story about Koppenhaver to legitimise your post, makes me sick

[SIK]

Each job has it's hazards.

If you're a construction worker, you might fall of a building and die.

If you're a slut doing hardcore gigs, someone just might fuck you a bit harder than you're used to.



Deal with it.

[j3rkules]

Major meltdown...

[Kelli58]

Originally Posted by Ferus

ohh another captain-save-a-ho wannabe. How many times have this shit been regurgitated.

The fact you have to add the story about Koppenhaver to legitimise your post, makes me sick

What the fuck are you even talking about? Did you even read the post? Do you even know what it's about? This shit just got brought up publicly 18 hours ago. How the fuck can you regurgitate a subject that was only just brought to light?

Your an idiot.

[Va2k]

Well, don't know all sides of the story but will say I do NOT like all these so call rape sites on the net. Real rape or fake is nasty! I could NEVER EVER have my way with anyone that does NOT want to be with me, or enjoys having sex with me.

To take something that personal from anyone is HORRIBLE! Hope anyone that get's raped gets the help they deserve. I don't care if you're a street hooker, on line escort or a porn person. NO means NO and anyone that breaks that should rot in prison.

[Manfap]

Originally Posted by Kelli58

Your an idiot.

And you call yourself a writer?

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by Kelli58

What the fuck are you even talking about? Did you even read the post? Do you even know what it's about? This shit just got brought up publicly 18 hours ago. How the fuck can you regurgitate a subject that was only just brought to light?

Your an idiot.

Because it's the same bullshit story Again and Again and Again. And your naive hunger for sensation make you belive it as a fact, rather then see it for what it really is.

[Ferus]

Originally Posted by Manfap

And you call yourself a writer?

Nobody else does

[ITraffic]

Jewish Porn Star James Deen Accused of Rape - Breaking News ? Forward.com

[Harmon]

[The Porn Nerd]

People who like rape - simulated, fantasy or play - are sick fucks who need serious professional psychological attention.

I don't even like to see a girl choked, slapped, held down....and those girls who "like it that way" (or request it) are the most fucked up of all and need the most professional help.

Just imagine, when you see one of those rape "fantasy" scenes, that it's your sister, wife, daughter or mother being put through that and then see if it gets you off. When you see a scene of a girl locked up in a cage being used as a personal sex slave realize there are REAL WOMEN out there being treated this way, against their will, right now.

SICK SHIT.

[Relentless]

Kelli,

This is another in a very long list of pathetic cries for attention by you and your hate blog. You have once again intentionally mischaracterised our disagreement, attempted to use hyperbole in place of facts and are seeking to use SEO link bait as a sad attempt to attack the reputation of others.

The simple facts are as follows. You were looking for a job, and a client of mine asked me to help them with a hiring search. I forwarded them a stack of resumes, including yours. They, on their own, decided to hire you, and the deal later went badly. They still regret hiring you, as do other companies you worked for previously. You have said you regret working with them... And frankly none of that has anything to do with me from either side.

On the XBIZ board, you got into an argument with someone else and then started a thread titled 'Is [PersonName] a Pedophile?' as a way of attacking them when everyone including you accepts they are not and never were a pedophile. It was a childish, immature and completely against the rules violation of board policy, so I publicly asked for you to be banned from that community. You were banned and later allowed back in on the condition that you would clean up your act.

Later when the site borderpatrolsex was released, you launched into a tyrade about it being 'rape content' which is patently false. The site is clearly fictional, stars paid actors who consent to the content, etc... I pointed out that Jodie Foster won an academy award in The Accused for content more extreme than anything posted on that site, as did several other people on that board.

When you saw that the community disagreed with you, you made the mistake of again trying to use your hate blog as a way to generate false click bait about me and brands I own. It is not surprising that about that same time you also posted that your pathetic hate site lukeisback was for sale here on GFY buy/sell and went so far as to say that if anyone wants to shut you up they should give you $8,000 to go away by buying the site (which amounts to a simple attempt at extortion).

Since that time several people have spoken to you privately about your antics and have asked me to 'avoid any unnecessary conflicts wth you.' I told them I'd do that, but that I expected your antics would eventually continue on their own anyway.

Now in your latest attempt at faux-journalism you are once again attempting to mischaracterize my point of view, and are trying to falsely link myself and one of my brands to a perspective I do not share or represent. Furthermore, I have never stated any opinion about the present matter, do not know any of the people involved and share zero connection with any of the above. You should remove my name from your posts, and your hate blog. I have nothing to do with this matter, nothing to do with you, and do not want anything to do with either.

Thanks

[VikingMan]

Someone please help me understand what has transpired.

1.Stoya reports her rape via Twitter? As a man who considers himself a feminist (dictionary says a feminist is someone who believes in equal rights) I highly recommend she report her rape to the police. I imagine most feminists would agree with me that Twitter should not be the first place to report a rape.

2. Next thing she does is plug her paysite and blog?

3. She also says she will be unavailable for the next 3 weeks?

So her audience will be wild with speculation over the next few weeks because no other info is given. Her audience's only outlet is to visit her websites with the first one being a paysite of hers that is featuring a scene with a "rapey" description. Is this to damage his reputation to paint him as someone who engages in this type of rapey behavior? I see the video was "directed" by Dana Vespoli who is a female of course but is also the female talent in the video. And of course Stoya makes money every time someone pays $3.99 to watch James engage in rapey behavior with the director of the video.

My only advice to Stoya is she better consult with the patriarchy on her join page because I don't see anyone buying a monthly recurring or yearly membership.

[Kelli58]

Originally Posted by Relentless

Kelli,

Since that time several people have spoken to you privately about your antics and have asked me to 'leave you alone.'
Thanks

Don't be butt hurt because I called you out for supporting a rape fantasy site. You and I both know that it is in fact exactly what you did and I saved all of the proof from that time and since them just in case you try and pull any bullshit like saying you didn't.

In the mean time here is the article I wrote about your support of men "pretending" raping illegal immigrants as they try and cross the border.

Let’s talk about online sex AND GOING TO JAIL | LUKE IS BACK

But hey like you said, it's only pretend rape so it's no big deal, right?

[Relentless]

What I supported, and continue to support, is the fact that putting the paid adult consenting actors in The Accused in jail for rape would be no less silly or egregious an outcome than putting Robert DeNiro in jail for murder as a result of his fictional character's actions in goodfellas. Jodie Foster and De Niro are both Oscar winners, and nobody from the cast of either film is in prison, so the Academy and law enforcement clearly agree with me.

Your attempts at hyperbole do not change my point of view or the content published by others. Your antics are also unlikely to raise the buy price of your hate blog.

[ilnjscb]

This whole thing with public rape accusations - go to the police. Accusing in public without going to the police just makes it harder for real victims.

[Relentless]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

This whole thing with public rape accusations - go to the police. Accusing in public without going to the police just makes it harder for victims.

Agreed 100%

911 is not a hard number to remember and the faster that call gets made the stronger the case will be.

[dyna mo]

wait, so the op is using a hearsay rape story to advance her agenda that using rape stories to advance your agenda is wrong.

got it.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

wait, so the op is using a hearsay rape story to advance her agenda that using rape stories to advance your agenda is wrong.

got it.

That's pretty much what I got outta it, too.

Popcorn thread...dead ahead.

[Relentless]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

wait, so the op is using a hearsay rape story to advance her agenda that using rape stories to advance your agenda is wrong.
got it.

At best...

[VikingMan]

As a feminist I am offended at this video description on Stoya's website. It wreaks of patriarchy/male privilege and definitely hints at rapey behavior.

"Dana goes to visit talented young artist James Deen. But there's something twisted and unsettling about him. He leverages his status to breach Dana's physical boundaries before manipulating her into submitting to the whims of his cock and his mind."

Does it sound like the woman in this video is giving consent? I think not.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

That's pretty much what I got outta it, too.

Popcorn thread...dead ahead.

Originally Posted by Relentless

At best...

whew, it's not just me then, it was hard to navigate all that op gibberish.

[JIBCONTENT]

I don't have time to research this but is Stoya ACTUALLY accusing Deen of rape? (meaning is she filing a police report) or is her only accusation a tweet?


A tweet or 2 can't be anything other than gossip...and if she hasn't already she needs to file a police report soon or face a nice slander suit from Deen I would think

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

People who like rape - simulated, fantasy or play - are sick fucks who need serious professional psychological attention.

I don't even like to see a girl choked, slapped, held down....and those girls who "like it that way" (or request it) are the most fucked up of all and need the most professional help.

Just imagine, when you see one of those rape "fantasy" scenes, that it's your sister, wife, daughter or mother being put through that and then see if it gets you off. When you see a scene of a girl locked up in a cage being used as a personal sex slave realize there are REAL WOMEN out there being treated this way, against their will, right now.

SICK SHIT.

Let me ask you this - when you see someone get shot, mugged, assaulted, tortured, raped in a Hollywood movie, do you also 'imagine that it's your sister, wife, daughter or mother'?

A great many of us are able to differentiate between fantasy and reality. I see scenes of murder and mayhem all the time in the movies - it doesn't stop me from going to the theater to enjoy a movie.'

Playing Grand Theft Auto doesn't entice me to go out on the streets and create carnage. Again, it goes back to knowing the difference between fantasy and reality - and keeping the two distinctly separate.

With your words, you've effectively disparaged everyone and anyone who consentually and willfully participates in what's collectively referred to as alternative lifestyle (which, yes...includes bdsm, fetish and fantasy roleplay).

[epitome]

Originally Posted by SIK

Each job has it's hazards.

If you're a construction worker, you might fall of a building and die.

If you're a slut doing hardcore gigs, someone just might fuck you a bit harder than you're used to.



Deal with it.

You obviously have ZERO clue what this story is about or who these people were to each other.

Hint: it's not work related.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT

I don't have time to research this but is Stoya ACTUALLY accusing Deen of rape? (meaning is she filing a police report) or is her only accusation a tweet?


A tweet or 2 can't be anything other than gossip...and if she hasn't already she needs to file a police report soon or face a nice slander suit from Deen I would think

Listen, dumb fuck: gossip is when two people are discussing a third party.

She's accusing her ex boyfriend of raping her. They suddenly broke up and she tried to avoid discussing the relationship.

Duh duh duh do you think it may be connected, Scooby?

[epitome]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

don't sound like James to me..... James is VERY professional from all accounts, and please remember I speak with girls that work with James everyday...

Yeah, I'm sure you're privy to his psyche. When were you roommates?

Oh, you only know him professionally? Then STFU.

[Relentless]

I know every time I see a lightsaber battle I picture what it would be like if my wife, child or great aunt were being attacked by a sith lord with a lightsaber. That's why Star Wars should be banned. It's just too hard to differentiate fiction from reality and the actors consenting to be in that film for consenting viewers to watch it are missing the fact that it hurts my feelings to imagine my great aunt being sliced in half by a Sith Lord (even though I can simply choose to not watch the movie).

Free speech is only important when it is being used to protect unpopular speech. Popular speech is already protected by the masses, unpopular speech is what needs to be protected from the masses.

To be clear, ANY incident of nonconsensual violence or sex is wrong. Even a fictional example of violence or sex is wrong if it is nonconsensual. Nobody should ever be required to appear in a horror movie, porn movie or any other depiction of reality, where it is fictional or nonfictional. Nobody should ever be required to watch one either. This includes anyone under the age of consent, anyone intoxicated and unable to consent, anyone mentally ill who can not consent and so on. The law does a very good job of explaining what consent is and who can grant consent.

That's why war machine will go to jail or be executed (and should be) while De Niro, Foster, Mark Hamill and the casts of their films will continue being given academy awards.

The truth is that wet Tshirt contests with drunk women on a stage doing whatever they are legally unable to consent to, due to their intoxication level, are a far bigger problem than any consensual film ever made.

I completely agree no means no.
The corrolary to that is yes means yes.

Consent matters.





*** Notice my comments are not directed to or about anything involving stoya, James deen, etc... I know zero about the alleged incident, do not know the people involved and have no opinion on that matter other than to point out what matters is consent. In fact I am only posting in this thread because Kelli the OP disingenuously attempted to use my name in it as a way to create click bait for her hate blog. Otherwise I'd just say this is a matter for the courts to decide.***

[L-Pink]

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[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Let me ask you this - when you see someone get shot, mugged, assaulted, tortured, raped in a Hollywood movie, do you also 'imagine that it's your sister, wife, daughter or mother'?

A great many of us are able to differentiate between fantasy and reality. I see scenes of murder and mayhem all the time in the movies - it doesn't stop me from going to the theater to enjoy a movie.'

Playing Grand Theft Auto doesn't entice me to go out on the streets and create carnage. Again, it goes back to knowing the difference between fantasy and reality - and keeping the two distinctly separate.

With your words, you've effectively disparaged everyone and anyone who consentually and willfully participates in what's collectively referred to as alternative lifestyle (which, yes...includes bdsm, fetish and fantasy roleplay).

Actually I do. I do not watch a lot of TV or movies these days so I am not de-sensitized by all the violence towards women we see all around us in the media. I actually do have a problem with all the guns, death, murder, violence and rape "glorified" in entertainment. I believe it's a concerted effort to de-sensitize the population towards acts of violence. How else do you explain death, murder, rape being depicted as "ok" in mainstream TV but you cannot show a nipple or an overt sexual act?

As far as disparaging anyone into 'alternative lifestyles' (excluding gay) I also have a problem with people into such things. Do they have a right to do so? Sure (as long as it's consensual) just like I have a right to call it sick, perverted behavior by individuals with anger-towards-women (and self-esteem) issues. Do what you want but I choose not to associate with you.

So I guess I won't be going to any S&M clubs. Oh well.

[Relentless]

ThePornNerd,

I respect your right to dislike horror movies and to choose not to watch them. That's pretty much as far as your opinion on the matter goes. Just as someone may think your fantasies are sick, and they should also be able to not watch them.

That is the nature of consent.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Actually I do. I do not watch a lot of TV or movies these days so I am not de-sensitized by all the violence towards women we see all around us in the media. I actually do have a problem with all the guns, death, murder, violence and rape "glorified" in entertainment. I believe it's a concerted effort to de-sensitize the population towards acts of violence. How else do you explain death, murder, rape being depicted as "ok" in mainstream TV but you cannot show a nipple or an overt sexual act?

As far as disparaging anyone into 'alternative lifestyles' (excluding gay) I also have a problem with people into such things. Do they have a right to do so? Sure (as long as it's consensual) just like I have a right to call it sick, perverted behavior by individuals with anger-towards-women (and self-esteem) issues. Do what you want but I choose not to associate with you.

So I guess I won't be going to any S&M clubs. Oh well.

Fair enough.

'preciate your honest opinion.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by Relentless

ThePornNerd,

I respect your right to dislike horror movies and to choose not to watch them. That's pretty much as far as your opinion on the matter goes. Just as someone may think your fantasies are sick, and they should also be able to not watch them.

That is the nature of consent.

Yup, totally agree. Also, I would defend vigorously the right of anyone like Max Hardcore et al to produce such content. I may hate it but it has a right to be made (and viewed).

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Fair enough.

'preciate your honest opinion.

I'm a very old-fashioned pornographer. :D

[SIK]

Originally Posted by epitome

You obviously have ZERO clue what this story is about or who these people were to each other.

Hint: it's not work related.

if they were dating, I'm even more on his side then

all the kinky fuckers that use "safewords" are into that shit 100%, so when they get carried away it's always too late to stop

anal porn model turned feminist...... yeah... yeah

[ITraffic]

though her featuring a rapey video with him on her website is kinda weird:

TRENCHCOATx : Curated Smut | TRENCHCOATx

The Artist

Dana goes to visit talented young artist James Deen. But there's something twisted and unsettling about him. He leverages his status to breach Dana's physical boundaries before manipulating her into submitting to the whims of his cock and his mind.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by ITraffic

though her featuring a rapey video with him on her website is kinda weird:

TRENCHCOATx : Curated Smut | TRENCHCOATx

The Artist

Dana goes to visit talented young artist James Deen. But there's something twisted and unsettling about him. He leverages his status to breach Dana's physical boundaries before manipulating her into submitting to the whims of his cock and his mind.

She doesn't look very pale in this photo. Did she get a tan (finally)?

[NemesisEnforcer]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

How else do you explain death, murder, rape being depicted as "ok" in mainstream TV but you cannot show a nipple or an overt sexual act?

Politics, broadcast TV content is governed by the FCC. For example, the FCC fined CBS $550,000 for Janet Jackson showing a nipple during Super Bowl halftime.

It was worse back in the early days. On "I Love Lucy", Ricky and Lucy being a real married couple as well as playing one could not share the same bed on television. Whenever you saw their bedroom, they had twin beds.

For SNL, NBC used to pay $5,000 to the FCC just to have Gilder Radner say "bitch" at midnight.

[fitzmulti]

Originally Posted by VikingMan

Someone please help me understand what has transpired.
2. Next thing she does is plug her paysite and blog?

3. She also says she will be unavailable for the next 3 weeks?

She made no tweets after the 2 mentioning the situation.
The one you are referring to is 'pinned' at the top from NOV 17th.

Pinned Tweet
Stoya ‏@stoya Nov 17

I'll be mostly offline till 17 Dec. For work. While I'm gone please consider enjoying TRENCHCOATx : Curated Smut | TRENCHCOATx and Home

{You asked to be helped to understand...}

[VikingMan]

Originally Posted by fitzmulti

She made no tweets after the 2 mentioning the situation.
The one you are referring to is 'pinned' at the top from NOV 17th.

Pinned Tweet
Stoya ‏@stoya Nov 17

I'll be mostly offline till 17 Dec. For work. While I'm gone please consider enjoying TRENCHCOATx : Curated Smut | TRENCHCOATx and Home

{You asked to be helped to understand...}

You are right it is a pinned tweet that was made on Nov 17th. However it is the very next tweet just above the rape accusation. And of course she is profiting off of a rapey video featuring her alleged rapist. She will be donating all profits to rape victims I am certain. No way would she profit from promoting patriarchy/male privilege/rape culture.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by VikingMan

You are right it is a pinned tweet that was made on Nov 17th. However it is the very next tweet just above the rape accusation. And of course she is profiting off of a rapey video featuring her alleged rapist. She will be donating all profits to rape victims I am certain. No way would she profit from promoting patriarchy/male privilege/rape culture.

Says the resident women-hater.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Actually I do. I do not watch a lot of TV or movies these days so I am not de-sensitized by all the violence towards women we see all around us in the media. I actually do have a problem with all the guns, death, murder, violence and rape "glorified" in entertainment. I believe it's a concerted effort to de-sensitize the population towards acts of violence. How else do you explain death, murder, rape being depicted as "ok" in mainstream TV but you cannot show a nipple or an overt sexual act?

As far as disparaging anyone into 'alternative lifestyles' (excluding gay) I also have a problem with people into such things. Do they have a right to do so? Sure (as long as it's consensual) just like I have a right to call it sick, perverted behavior by individuals with anger-towards-women (and self-esteem) issues. Do what you want but I choose not to associate with you.

So I guess I won't be going to any S&M clubs. Oh well.

there is far more violence towards males on television and the movies than females. just like there are a lot of women who enjoy dominating men but again you act like its only individuals with "anger towards women".

and that scene with deen is dana vespoli.

[TCLGirls]

Originally Posted by SIK

Each job has it's hazards.

If you're a construction worker, you might fall of a building and die.

If you're a slut doing hardcore gigs, someone just might fuck you a bit harder than you're used to.



Deal with it.

Your analogy makes zero sense. There is no active wrongdoer in your first example...while there indeed is an active wrongdoer in your second example.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer

Politics, broadcast TV content is governed by the FCC. For example, the FCC fined CBS $550,000 for Janet Jackson showing a nipple during Super Bowl halftime.

It was worse back in the early days. On "I Love Lucy", Ricky and Lucy being a real married couple as well as playing one could not share the same bed on television. Whenever you saw their bedroom, they had twin beds.

For SNL, NBC used to pay $5,000 to the FCC just to have Gilder Radner say "bitch" at midnight.

I miss Gilda Radner!!

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

there is far more violence towards males on television and the movies than females. just like there are a lot of women who enjoy dominating men but again you act like its only individuals with "anger towards women".

Men can (better) defend themselves than a woman can. Plus men are usually not the target for sexual assault.

I'm a "moderate" in most things so I can appreciate roleplay, women dominating men, even mild S&M. But you know the kind of extreme shit I'm talking about. There's clearly something else going on there with the male "actors", who are really just roided-up stunt cocks and not "actors" like Robert Deniro or Jodie Foster. Just sayin'.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Men can (better) defend themselves than a woman can. Plus men are usually not the target for sexual assault.

Between me an Stoya, everybody would rather rape her.

[SIK]

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Your analogy makes zero sense. There is no active wrongdoer in your first example...while there indeed is an active wrongdoer in your second example.

my analogy is perfect, you introduce the wrongdoer in the equation yet you omit the POINT

POINT = it can fucking happen

their sex had a fucking safeword - did she really expect it to be gentle love making?
and as I said before, people get carried away with such shit - always

and second, even more important - before jumping on stoya side, would be good to hear the other side too

[baddog]

Originally Posted by SIK

my analogy is perfect, you introduce the wrongdoer in the equation yet you omit the POINT

POINT = it can fucking happen

their sex had a fucking safeword - did she really expect it to be gentle love making?
and as I said before, people get carried away with such shit - always

and second, even more important - before jumping on stoya side, would be good to hear the other side too

I will respectfully disagree, I can imagine a scenario that she is in such fear that she tries a safe word. Just because they had a safe word does mean it was used in all their sex sessions