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Old 12-02-2015, 12:14 PM   #201
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200 James Deen Jew dudes allegedly raping porn whores... gigggity
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Your inflated sense of intellect may work with your toddler but come on man gtfo with this.

only a fucking moron would feel the need to explain that a citizen can't bring charges on another citizen without the da and police.

I can't tell if he's a shitty troll or he has Aspergers
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Joanna Angel on SiriusSM in half an hour if you want to listen in. (James Deen topic). she?s going in to the Jason Ellis studio at 1pm PST. Strange choice of venues as he?s a shock jock, be she?s friends with him?..
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i know what a safe word means.

i also know theres women who beg for play rape so its a VERY GRAY area to then accuse that partner of rape.

I'm saying this whole scenario sounds fishy.

ie the ad for her sites latest update featuring her and james deen pinned right after her accusing deen of raping her.

ie: she was into this type of stuff

ie: no police report

ie: positing it on her twitter exclusively

its looks like a trumped up publicity stunt all while ruining deen as a bonus.

and like i said if you call someone a rapist you better have hard proof of you are scum yourself.
and yes cutesy women can all do all that dirty evil shit so done be blinded by the vagina.

if you can't understand that angle and want to argue your stale angle of woman's rights and safe words i don't know what else to say ....
So just to clarify. If you are going at it hot and heavy and she says, "No. Stop. Get off me." You feel free to continue for how long before you have done something wrong? I think your defense of this guy has made her case. Add in that is was a predetermined safe word that they had set up together and he looks guilty as hell without any evidence at all.
And a heads up to help you never be in the same situation, the answer is about 10 seconds. Any longer and you are committing a felony. Maybe they can't convict you on it but that is what you are doing.
If you were just trolling the whole time, my bad.
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Joanna Angel on SiriusSM in half an hour if you want to listen in. (James Deen topic). she?s going in to the Jason Ellis studio at 1pm PST. Strange choice of venues as he?s a shock jock, be she?s friends with him?..
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Colin, what did Joanna say/reveal about James?
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Joanna Angel on SiriusSM in half an hour if you want to listen in. (James Deen topic). she’s going in to the Jason Ellis studio at 1pm PST. Strange choice of venues as he’s a shock jock, be she’s friends with him…..
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I only know through hearsay so I can't say for sure, but if in fact Bonnie, Stoya, Joanna, the others that have come forward, etc. are all friends and if there is some sort of coordinated attempt to profit from this situation either through gaining notoriety or profiting monetarily, it would be one helluva sad and sick way to do it and certainly a disservice to all victims of rape.

However, Deen more likely than not brought this on himself because something like that wouldn't happen because they all like him so much.
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The Salem Witch Trials had plenty of witnesses with no reason to make anything up. From an evidentiary standpoint, that by itself is not enough. The idea that people want to have a 'guilt or innocence' discussion via twitter and for-profit media outlets is stupefying.

Whether you 'think' someone is guilty or not is unimportant. Whether they are guilty and whether they can be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is what matters. That's why we don't have a judicial system based solely upon the question of 'are there any witnesses without an obvious reason to make this up'....

I have no idea if he is or is not guilty of anything. I find it increasingly annoying that so many people are willing to pretend they know without a shred of evidence being presented or an actual trial taking place. We aren't talking about whether someone farted or not... we are talking about a life-altering criminal act (for the accuser and the accused) and it deserves to be given a whole lot more factual inspection than it has been given so far.

At this point, I hope EITHER James Deen or Stoya end up in prison. Either he did it and belongs there, or he didn't and her actions are sufficient to earn her a trip somewhere involuntarily. Th severity of these accusations are not being given anywhere near the amount of investigation they deserve.... whether 100 people on twitter say he is awful or 100 people on twitter say he is a great guy is damn near irrelevant. If they have something to say, they ought to be saying it in court under oath.
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I only know through hearsay so I can't say for sure, but if in fact Bonnie, Stoya, Joanna, the others that have come forward, etc. are all friends and if there is some sort of coordinated attempt to profit from this situation either through gaining notoriety or profiting monetarily, it would be one helluva sad and sick way to do it and certainly a disservice to all victims of rape.
I doubt there is a coordinated attempt to mislead for profit, but if that were ever proven, it's likely grounds for a RICO case...
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The Salem Witch Trials had plenty of witnesses with no reason to make anything up. From an evidentiary standpoint, that by itself is not enough. The idea that people want to have a 'guilt or innocence' discussion via twitter and for-profit media outlets is stupefying.

Whether you 'think' someone is guilty or not is unimportant. Whether they are guilty and whether they can be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is what matters. That's why we don't have a judicial system based solely upon the question of 'are there any witnesses without an obvious reason to make this up'....

I have no idea if he is or is not guilty of anything. I find it increasingly annoying that so many people are willing to pretend they know without a shred of evidence being presented or an actual trial taking place. We aren't talking about whether someone farted or not... we are talking about a life-altering criminal act (for the accuser and the accused) and it deserves to be given a whole lot more factual inspection than it has been given so far.

At this point, I hope EITHER James Deen or Stoya end up in prison. Either he did it and belongs there, or he didn't and her actions are sufficient to earn her a trip somewhere involuntarily. Th severity of these accusations are not being given anywhere near the amount of investigation they deserve.... whether 100 people on twitter say he is awful or 100 people on twitter say he is a great guy is damn near irrelevant. If they have something to say, they ought to be saying it in court under oath.
Agree 100% but have to say... the discussion and speculation in the adult industry is a good conversation to have regardless of either party being innocent or guilty. While none of us were witnesses to the events, we are all now victims of its consequences as a spotlight on the industry. For that reason, people should keep talking about it, even if that involves sitting in the court of public opinion and not privy to any evidence, factual or consequential.
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The Salem Witch Trials had plenty of witnesses with no reason to make anything up. From an evidentiary standpoint, that by itself is not enough. The idea that people want to have a 'guilt or innocence' discussion via twitter and for-profit media outlets is stupefying.

Whether you 'think' someone is guilty or not is unimportant. Whether they are guilty and whether they can be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is what matters. That's why we don't have a judicial system based solely upon the question of 'are there any witnesses without an obvious reason to make this up'....

I have no idea if he is or is not guilty of anything. I find it increasingly annoying that so many people are willing to pretend they know without a shred of evidence being presented or an actual trial taking place. We aren't talking about whether someone farted or not... we are talking about a life-altering criminal act (for the accuser and the accused) and it deserves to be given a whole lot more factual inspection than it has been given so far.

At this point, I hope EITHER James Deen or Stoya end up in prison. Either he did it and belongs there, or he didn't and her actions are sufficient to earn her a trip somewhere involuntarily. Th severity of these accusations are not being given anywhere near the amount of investigation they deserve.... whether 100 people on twitter say he is awful or 100 people on twitter say he is a great guy is damn near irrelevant. If they have something to say, they ought to be saying it in court under oath.
While I don't necessarily disagree with your statements, I think it should be pointed out that the general public/media has the right to evaluate others by whatever methodology they choose...whether it is fair or not. If we want to diminish the number of these "media convictions", then the focus should be on convincing the public of the benefits of waiting until all the fact come in, instead of blaming the media for reporting allegations.
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Agree 100% but have to say... the discussion and speculation in the adult industry is a good conversation to have regardless of either party being innocent or guilty. While none of us were witnesses to the events, we are all now victims of its consequences as a spotlight on the industry. For that reason, people should keep talking about it, even if that involves sitting in the court of public opinion and not privy to any evidence, factual or consequential.
That's easy to say when you aren't being used as the example in every post. Im all for a discussion of what No means, or of the difficulties performers face and so on... but when it becomes posts of "I heard this specific person is awful' or "I heard this specific person is a saint' - that is counterproductive and goes against the entire purpose our legal system is intended to serve.
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While I don't necessarily disagree with your statements, I think it should be pointed out that the general public/media has the right to evaluate others by whatever methodology they choose...whether it is fair or not. If we want to diminish the number of these "media convictions", then the focus should be on convincing the public of the benefits of waiting until all the fact come in, instead of blaming the media for reporting allegations.
Just because the circus comes to town, that doesn't mean we all need to rush out and buy red noses or floppy red shoes...
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Just because the circus comes to town, that doesn't mean we all need to rush out and buy red noses or floppy red shoes...
That's what I am saying...convince those people that there is no need to buy the floppy shoes instead of blaming the circus for coming to town.
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That's easy to say when you aren't being used as the example in every post. Im all for a discussion of what No means, or of the difficulties performers face and so on... but when it becomes posts of "I heard this specific person is awful' or "I heard this specific person is a saint' - that is counterproductive and goes against the entire purpose our legal system is intended to serve.

But the people saying those things are not part of the legal system as it applies to any possible criminal action against Deen....they are part of the general public. If any of those people get called as jurors in a trial against Deen,, they would probably be excused from serving due to their bias. So their statements do not actually go against the entire purpose of the legal system.
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It is crazy for web warriors to take sides in this very serious issue.
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So wait - are you saying that because I watch The Walking Dead I should condone rape? Or are you saying because I am against rape I should NOT watch a fictional show about zombies? I'm confused...

I know you're confused because while I don't doubt you have reasonable intellect, you have situation comprehension skills even when it's laid out to you in black and white.

So let's agree to disagree and go fuck ourselves independently.
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I know you're confused because while I don't doubt you have reasonable intellect, you have situation comprehension skills even when it's laid out to you in black and white.

So let's agree to disagree and go fuck ourselves independently.
Together or separately? LOL
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Porn actress Nicki Blue alleges James Dean sexually assaulted her with horrific acts - in an off-camera attack at a wrap party* | Daily Mail Online

'As he was doing it ? this is the embarrassing part and why I didn't say anything ? he said "oh my God, I have to go to the bathroom" and he p***** in my mouth.

'Then after that, he had the idea of putting the beer bottle up my a**. So that was done.'

Joanna Angel Opens Up About James Deen?s Alleged Abuse: ?He Really Is a Scary Person? - The Daily Beast

She also remembered waking up on numerous occasions to find Deen on top of her. ?More than once I woke up to him choking me in his sleep? He really is a scary person.?
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Yikes. Is this going to be what everyone is going to be talking about in January? I hope not :/
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I don't believe anything these attention whores are saying. All these women do is seek out ATTENTION and that's it.

So this one girl Joana Angel claimed James Deen was abusive the first day she met him yet she dated him for 6 fucking years?!!? What the fuck?

Also, no one has gone to the cops? Please, none of this happened. He was probably a little aggressive but that's it. Give me a fucking break
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So this one girl Joana Angel claimed James Deen was abusive the first day she met him yet she dated him for 6 fucking years?!!? What the fuck?
My thoughts exactly. Six years to figure out he is bad. Yeah, right.

Ashley Fires (or whatever the name was) - didn't she claim he "raped / molested / whatever" on SET? Wouldn't that mean it would be easy to get a proof video?



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My thoughts exactly. Six years to figure out he is bad. Yeah, right.
Ashley Fires (or whatever the name was) - didn't she claim he "raped / molested / whatever" on SET? Wouldn't that mean it would be easy to get a proof video?
I do not know her, but I would question any accusation by anyone that suggested someone else belongs in jail. There is a massive gap between 'blaming the victim' and 'requiring evidence.' Saying "you are claiming someone deserves to lose their freedom and their career, can you prove any of this?" is very different from saying "Well, what were you wearing at the time?"

Some people do not seem to understand the severity of rape while others seem not to understand the severity of unproven accusations.
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How do you guys know there is no police report? You are just assuming that is the case. No where did Stoya ever say she did not file a police report.
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Together or separately? LOL
I guess I didn't think that all the way through! I love it when things end civilly
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is this some joke or this woman knows something?
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She's definitely a HUGE attention whore...why do people live for their 5 minutes of fame? I believe she claimed that she was ALMOST "raped"....GASP! Now all these attention whores are "victims"? Give me a break. There are REAL victims out there and these asshats distract from the attention the real victims deserve
You know that or are you guessing? Ive hung with her and hubby a few times and she struck me as very level headed person.
There is no benefit for these girls to come out. He is famous in our little world but in the real world he is no one. So there is no book deal or speaking tour. Listen to Joanna angels interview and then tell me its bullshit.
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How do you guys know there is no police report? You are just assuming that is the case. No where did Stoya ever say she did not file a police report.
Sadly I dont think if a porn star went to the police, they would be taken seriously.
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You can tell dude gets off slapping and chocking bitches. I wouldnt be surprised if he was a rapist.
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Colin, what did Joanna say/reveal about James?
A lot. For 90 minutes.
I did an audio capture of it and have sent in a request to the radio station for permission to re-publish. Just waiting back to hear from them...
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Where's TCLgirls asking for videos of the "evidence" against Deen??
No reason to demand video, especially since I am not challenging any claim that Deen raped anyone.
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Old 12-04-2015, 02:44 PM   #236
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But i theres no video proof, then all these girls are lying correct?

I know right?!?! There's no video proof that he didn't rape anyone either!! That necessarily means the girls are telling the truth!! Genius!!
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See how you're a hypocrite?
Of course I see because no video proof doesn't mean something didn't happen!! You're a genius I say!!!
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How do you guys know there is no police report? You are just assuming that is the case. No where did Stoya ever say she did not file a police report.
If that's the case, keeping that a secret while posting other things on Twitter about the incident is a mistake. Your use of my name on your hate blog and in your first post of this thread is also a mistake. Perhaps one day you'll gain clarity about that.
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meh, he is just a colorful text loving faggot
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Of course I see because no video proof doesn't mean something didn't happen!! You're a genius I say!!!
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Actually I do. I do not watch a lot of TV or movies these days so I am not de-sensitized by all the violence towards women we see all around us in the media. I actually do have a problem with all the guns, death, murder, violence and rape "glorified" in entertainment. I believe it's a concerted effort to de-sensitize the population towards acts of violence. How else do you explain death, murder, rape being depicted as "ok" in mainstream TV but you cannot show a nipple or an overt sexual act?
Actually I do too, and it is heavier since I am a family guy with two daughters...

About the violence vs sexuality on mainstream TV: this made me remember how awesome movie is the 'People vs Larry Flynt' by Milos Forman, with Woody Harrelson.

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She's definitely a HUGE attention whore...why do people live for their 5 minutes of fame? I believe she claimed that she was ALMOST "raped"....GASP! Now all these attention whores are "victims"? Give me a break. There are REAL victims out there and these asshats distract from the attention the real victims deserve
I've known Ashley Fires and her husband Jack Kona for years, and have known about what James did in the Kink communal shower to her for a long time now. She is a far cry from an attention seeker and just doing the right thing by coming out with her personal story.

Between her account, and the Joanna Angel (another outstanding and sensible woman in adult businesswoman) interview, it's pretty telling that some inappropriate things have gone on. I support both of them for stepping up to the plate and going public with their experiences in this train wreck.
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This is a very well written story that gives the other side. And who ever wrote it is a vet and knows both sides of the story. I know this because I was around when Chico was shooting James and crazy scenes and I have never seen anything from James that would seem unprofessional or witnessed any type of rape.


And to add I have know James since the day he started. Been friends with him and worked with him too many time I can't count. I have shot him for rough scenes and vanilla scenes. I have video footage of all talent signing in and signing out with very detailed questions about what the scene is going to be about. I even take one step further(Thank GOD!), I do a 3rd video clip with with with the girls "Dos and Donts" Super detailed usually about 15 minutes long. Me and the male performer ask everything!! I mean everything!! I also have on video girls asking James to pee on them and choke them unconscious. I not a fan of either. Not my thing. Im always in shock with what I hear girls asking for.

One thing you will always see with James and my Vanilla Scenes and My rough scenes: You watch the scene and you watch the video "Dos and Donts" you never see the performer cross that girls personal "Dos and Donts"!

"Donts" are as simple as: Don't put a finger in my pussy, you can slap my boobs, but don't pinch them, Please Don't rub my penciled in eyebrows, my left knee hurts, I cant do doggie on my knees, but i and do standing Doggie, Don't kiss me, No fingers in my butt, Please no lube, only spit, No spit only water based lube, please only use silicone based lube, Don't call me a cunt, don't call me a whore, etc...


As little as some of these are, I respect both female and male talent enough to ask all talent and to document it all so there is never a misunderstanding on set. This is also the best way to get talents trust and get there bast scenes.


I not here to say this or that. I am just sharing my experiences and work flow.


It seems that twitter drama is the new hey look at me I'm on the "Porn Box Cover".


Check this link below out. Its the other side that everyone has been waiting for.



Industry Vet Gives His Thoughts On James Deen As Well As Deen?s Accusers UPDATED



If James "Actually" raped someone, I'm the 1st person to go hang him. But twitter posts from and ex girlfriend with no police report is very suspect.


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I know you're confused because while I don't doubt you have reasonable intellect, you have situation comprehension skills even when it's laid out to you in black and white.

So let's agree to disagree and go fuck ourselves independently.
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The photos on her own tumblr blog don't even match up with the story.
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why it took that long? why all the girls had to wait for some ex whore to go out with the rape? and why there are no proofs, if that happened on the scene, there must have been other at least five people who have been watching the scene, and there have to be a proof on the video that have been filmed, or nope? i do not know, i see it like old ex whore trying to get some money and the other whores just jumped the train ...
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