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TaiGhost 09-09-2022 12:31 AM

I'm a regular user on the site. Lately, I just haven't seen anyone I want to spend tokens on (same old same old or not good syndrome) or they are doing for free what I would pay for in private.

Does this effect sales?

TurboB 09-09-2022 01:58 AM

This month sales going a little bit up.

Irishoz 09-09-2022 04:39 AM

Sales are normal but my hit stats haven't been updating correctly since yesterday. Waiting on reply from support.

GoCastaway 09-09-2022 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irishoz (Post 23040879)
Sales are normal but my hit stats haven't been updating correctly since yesterday. Waiting on reply from support.

Same here...

Irishoz 09-09-2022 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 23040904)
Same here...

Still no idea whats causing it. Signups seem to be getting counted at least.

RandomNinja 09-11-2022 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irishoz (Post 23040879)
Sales are normal but my hit stats haven't been updating correctly since yesterday. Waiting on reply from support.

Hits are good for me but sales are still 1/4 of what they consistently have been for years :Oh crap

MobileVRXXX 09-11-2022 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandomNinja (Post 23041480)
Hits are good for me but sales are still 1/4 of what they consistently have been for years :Oh crap

I am kind of in the same boat with 40% loss in the last couple of months but I notice my spenders are on average the same.

They simply spend less... which can be caused by a freaking insane amount of variables

digitalfantasies 09-11-2022 02:12 AM

has to be the economic crisis many are in. I find it hard to believe it's vacation/seasonal. Because I have never had such a drop in the summer months in the past 15 years

LustCore 09-11-2022 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalfantasies (Post 23041488)
has to be the economic crisis many are in. I find it hard to believe it's vacation/seasonal. Because I have never had such a drop in the summer months in the past 15 years

But if this is the outcome of the economic crisis then it means we should prepare for a devastating winter... :Oh crap

digitalfantasies 09-11-2022 08:31 AM

i'm afraid so

MobileVRXXX 09-11-2022 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LustCore (Post 23041542)
But if this is the outcome of the economic crisis then it means we should prepare for a devastating winter... :Oh crap

Sadly I think so.

This September for 10 days I got my five worst days for over 15 months...

Talking about days with 20-30$ income :D

AzteK 09-12-2022 02:08 PM

I was checking our numbers and the second week of july is when the income dropped

this month, YoY down 50%

yet just in may we had the highest month ever

bizarre patterns

gtsix 09-17-2022 10:33 PM

I see some balance straight disappeared for a certain day... I clearly remember I saw some income for that day yesterday, today I cannot even see the date in the stats like I ain't make anything for that day...

this is actually beyond sneaky, like someone is editing the stats afterwards lol... I make peanuts on CB so wtf... politicians also steal from the ones who don't have much tho... :1orglaugh

SharkAttack 09-17-2022 11:00 PM

Hundreds of affiliates are deliberately getting scammed by CB, but the general consensus is, "oh well I guess it will pass soon, I'll just wait and do nothing"

bill_musk 09-18-2022 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SharkAttack (Post 23043888)
Hundreds of affiliates are deliberately getting scammed by CB, but the general consensus is, "oh well I guess it will pass soon, I'll just wait and do nothing"

"Let's throw some random accusation, without proofs"

https://i.imgur.com/cVV0BUz.png

Numbers don't lie though. While there is a slight decrease, money keeps flowing for most of affiliates.

LouiseLloyd 09-18-2022 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_musk (Post 23043902)
"Let's throw some random accusation, without proofs"

https://i.imgur.com/cVV0BUz.png

Numbers don't lie though. While there is a slight decrease, money keeps flowing for most of affiliates.

I think there has been significant proof, there must be hundreds of posts here alone, that they allow misuse/abuse of the affiliate program, that cannot be denied.

You're either squeaky clean, or not, where's the line?

LustCore 09-18-2022 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtsix (Post 23043885)
I see some balance straight disappeared for a certain day... I clearly remember I saw some income for that day yesterday, today I cannot even see the date in the stats like I ain't make anything for that day...

this is actually beyond sneaky, like someone is editing the stats afterwards lol... I make peanuts on CB so wtf... politicians also steal from the ones who don't have much tho... :1orglaugh

Some manual editing or simple system error that I am suspecting too. One of my sub-affiliate had one registration (he can see it in his stats) but I can't see it, values are 0 where supposed to be 1. So CB has registered it, just something off.

gtsix 09-18-2022 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LustCore (Post 23043916)
Some manual editing or simple system error that I am suspecting too. One of my sub-affiliate had one registration (he can see it in his stats) but I can't see it, values are 0 where supposed to be 1. So CB has registered it, just something off.

yes I thought of that too... not having too much to do with them though, I don't do any adult for the last 6-7 years :1orglaugh I got some old spenders left here and there but basically beer money

bill_musk 09-18-2022 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LustCore (Post 23043916)
Some manual editing or simple system error that I am suspecting too. One of my sub-affiliate had one registration (he can see it in his stats) but I can't see it, values are 0 where supposed to be 1. So CB has registered it, just something off.

You only see T1 regs and T2 not T3, thats why.

bill_musk 09-18-2022 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd (Post 23043906)
I think there has been significant proof, there must be hundreds of posts here alone, that they allow misuse/abuse of the affiliate program, that cannot be denied.

You're either squeaky clean, or not, where's the line?

Only one thing I've seen here is valid: Whales are sometimes being stolen, and some people could get them back writing to support.

Beside that, all the claims of "revenues drop" are whales leaving, people on holidays and such.

I wish people would stop pretending revshare is a continuous stable income. When I ask people to share their stats through my tools, they all become quiet. And you realize most people have less than 100 active spenders, which is definitely not enough to demand stable income.

LustCore 09-18-2022 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtsix (Post 23043919)
yes I thought of that too... not having too much to do with them though, I don't do any adult for the last 6-7 years :1orglaugh I got some old spenders left here and there but basically beer money

https://i.imgur.com/CuQXrSX.jpeg

MobileVRXXX 09-18-2022 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_musk (Post 23043928)
Only one thing I've seen here is valid: Whales are sometimes being stolen, and some people could get them back writing to support.

Beside that, all the claims of "revenues drop" are whales leaving, people on holidays and such.

I wish people would stop pretending revshare is a continuous stable income. When I ask people to share their stats through my tools, they all become quiet. And you realize most people have less than 100 active spenders, which is definitely not enough to demand stable income.

Bill, we have talked.

I have been going through the stats.

Last 7 days - I have 4 days with less X amount. The same number of days I have had last 6 months...


I have sent them 70 000 users, and I made $22 yesterday I am waiting till the end of the month to see the trend, and I`ll contact them with questions.

27 people that have 200 + transactions have stopped spending for 20+ days that is a huge numbers. Those guys might not be spending big but they have like 10-15 transaction monthly and now they haven't done a single one

laouch 09-18-2022 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_musk (Post 23043928)
Only one thing I've seen here is valid: Whales are sometimes being stolen, and some people could get them back writing to support.

Beside that, all the claims of "revenues drop" are whales leaving, people on holidays and such.

I wish people would stop pretending revshare is a continuous stable income. When I ask people to share their stats through my tools, they all become quiet. And you realize most people have less than 100 active spenders, which is definitely not enough to demand stable income.

What you call active users is the "users in the last 7 days" ?

I am using your tool for years and I dont see it but do you have any way to see the signups ? For me what changed recently with CB is the signups rate, with the same traffic it went down very badly, I wonder if it's a trend or if its only me.

MobileVRXXX 09-18-2022 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laouch (Post 23043943)
What you call active users is the "users in the last 7 days" ?

I am using your tool for years and I dont see it but do you have any way to see the signups ? For me what changed recently with CB is the signups rate, with the same traffic it went down very badly, I wonder if it's a trend or if its only me.

Personally, I consider a user active if he has spent money in the last 30 days.

Now I am not sure about Bill and I see that his tool is showing just a slight decrease but we are not that many in the tool.

AzteK 09-18-2022 10:46 AM

our top 3 (exactly) spenders haven't spent in over 43 days

GoCastaway 09-18-2022 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzteK (Post 23044017)
our top 3 (exactly) spenders haven't spent in over 43 days

If a good regularly spender not spends more then a month then i mail support, because then there is a big chance that the spender is stolen.

Already got 3-4 stolen spenders back from CB

AzteK 09-18-2022 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 23044030)
If a good regularly spender not spends more then a month then i mail support, because then there is a big chance that the spender is stolen.

Already got 3-4 stolen spenders back from CB

yes thank you so much for the recommendation

I emailed them first 6 days ago no reponse

I emailed them again today with more detailed info

hoping for a response soon

Holy Damage 09-18-2022 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 23044030)
If a good regularly spender not spends more then a month then i mail support, because then there is a big chance that the spender is stolen.

Already got 3-4 stolen spenders back from CB

how many spenders do you have in total?

bill_musk 09-18-2022 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 23043934)
Bill, we have talked.

I have been going through the stats.

Last 7 days - I have 4 days with less X amount. The same number of days I have had last 6 months...


I have sent them 70 000 users, and I made $22 yesterday I am waiting till the end of the month to see the trend, and I`ll contact them with questions.

27 people that have 200 + transactions have stopped spending for 20+ days that is a huge numbers. Those guys might not be spending big but they have like 10-15 transaction monthly and now they haven't done a single one

Yeah your case is quite particuliar also - not getting in to details, but not sure much people have you strategy.

Nonetheless, I had a day at $56 last month - with 1000+ spenders in total. The fact that Chaturbate is losing pace due to hardened competition is something to consider. They've have been crushing competition for 10 years straight - They made NO improvements whatsoever. Barely adapted their mobile site. Other sites are slowly catching up, reducing their market share, with better features, star models, aggressive mailing.

There is nothing "shady" in my opinion, it's a cycle slowly coming to an end.

bill_musk 09-18-2022 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laouch (Post 23043943)
What you call active users is the "users in the last 7 days" ?

I am using your tool for years and I dont see it but do you have any way to see the signups ? For me what changed recently with CB is the signups rate, with the same traffic it went down very badly, I wonder if it's a trend or if its only me.


Regs are not in the CSV so I can't get them on my tool.

The first column on my tool has total spender and last 30 days spenders; what are your numbers?

Shoplifter 09-18-2022 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 23044030)
If a good regularly spender not spends more then a month then i mail support, because then there is a big chance that the spender is stolen.

Already got 3-4 stolen spenders back from CB

Did you get back the funds spent while the uses were stolen?

AzteK 09-18-2022 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_musk (Post 23044097)
Yeah your case is quite particuliar also - not getting in to details, but not sure much people have you strategy.

Nonetheless, I had a day at $56 last month - with 1000+ spenders in total. The fact that Chaturbate is losing pace due to hardened competition is something to consider. They've have been crushing competition for 10 years straight - They made NO improvements whatsoever. Barely adapted their mobile site. Other sites are slowly catching up, reducing their market share, with better features, star models, aggressive mailing.

There is nothing "shady" in my opinion, it's a cycle slowly coming to an end.

yea def have my eye on this

i just noticed stripchat surpassed them in traffic according to similarweb

digitalfantasies 09-18-2022 04:08 PM

Could it be an epoch problem?
I'm having 9 days in a row, major drop on acwm 0 new spenders normally 5 new spenders per per day. And drop in regular spending

I tried registering and buying through Paypal/ epoch I had 3 cards declined. even though they worked fine with epoch last month. Authorization went through fine but epoch says denied.
This is the third time this has happened 2 times on cambuilder (still weirdly happening intermittently) and now on acwm.
Using card directly works fine.

Also I now get a message that i need to make an account at epoch before using epoch.

I see chaturbate also uses epoch.

Anyone tried if it works on their whitelabel as it should?

digitalfantasies 09-18-2022 04:20 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/QCRT3yLB/chaturbate.jpg

Also on chaturbate my epoch payment doesn't go through. 3 different cards
using card directly works fine.


I know most webcam programs process Paypal payments through epoch.

Epoch acting up from time to time might explain why I see these sudden weird drops in spending across all programs starting and ending at the same time without change in traffic.


btw I have used these same cards and epoch without problem on chaturbate/cambuilder/acwm before to test

GoCastaway 09-18-2022 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoplifter (Post 23044099)
Did you get back the funds spent while the uses were stolen?

I got money yes, but if it was all, i dunno

GoCastaway 09-19-2022 02:20 AM

First 2 hours of the new day, not one single hit on CB...

WTF is going on???

mopek1 09-19-2022 03:39 AM

My first post on this thread.

The last 4 pay periods have been dreadful, despite sending the same amount of hits I have been for the last year.

I can't say anything yet as to the cause because I only send 10k hits per day but if this keeps up for 6 more months then there's an issue.

zerovic 09-19-2022 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoplifter (Post 23044099)
Did you get back the funds spent while the uses were stolen?

If they find users that were stolen from you, they will return them to you with the funds that were stolen from you as well. I have reported 8 user ids a few months ago, that stopped spending and 4 out of 8 were returned to me along with the $13k that was credited to someone else.

MobileVRXXX 09-19-2022 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalfantasies (Post 23044195)
Could it be an epoch problem?
I'm having 9 days in a row, major drop on acwm 0 new spenders normally 5 new spenders per per day. And drop in regular spending

I tried registering and buying through Paypal/ epoch I had 3 cards declined. even though they worked fine with epoch last month. Authorization went through fine but epoch says denied.
This is the third time this has happened 2 times on cambuilder (still weirdly happening intermittently) and now on acwm.
Using card directly works fine.

Also I now get a message that i need to make an account at epoch before using epoch.

I see chaturbate also uses epoch.

Anyone tried if it works on their whitelabel as it should?


I had a $6 day.

Something I haven't had since the first day I started. I will average 30x on usually...

AzteK 09-19-2022 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 23044314)
If they find users that were stolen from you, they will return them to you with the funds that were stolen from you as well. I have reported 8 user ids a few months ago, that stopped spending and 4 out of 8 were returned to me along with the $13k that was credited to someone else.

this is absolutely wild

Cyrano 09-19-2022 09:44 AM

Is anyone still waiting for their payment for September 1 to 15? I don't recall ever having to wait 4 days for a Paxum payment.

AzteK 09-19-2022 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyrano (Post 23044425)
Is anyone still waiting for their payment for September 1 to 15? I don't recall ever having to wait 4 days for a Paxum payment.

yea it takes some time

the period just ended at the end of last week

they will probably announce the payments tomorrow

LustCore 09-19-2022 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyrano (Post 23044425)
Is anyone still waiting for their payment for September 1 to 15? I don't recall ever having to wait 4 days for a Paxum payment.

My last payment was also a little bit late to Paxum, it was for May 16 - 31
Actually that was my last payment and nothing since then.

Clown 09-19-2022 01:10 PM

I haven't made much at all but I also don't think I did enough advertising or didn't advertise properly...

nikki99 09-19-2022 01:39 PM

today I got my CB BTC payment yayyyyy

GoCastaway 09-19-2022 01:55 PM

Did CB changed something on the API or so?

All my sites with different scripts, gives a lot grey CB logo, click on it and you get "performer is away", "room ofline" or "privateshow in progress"

GoCastaway 09-19-2022 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 23044514)
Did CB changed something on the API or so?

All my sites with different scripts, gives a lot grey CB logo, click on it and you get "performer is away", "room ofline" or "privateshow in progress"

I think CB is working on something, now all the grey logos are gone

bill_musk 09-21-2022 01:43 AM

A few interesting stats about CB out of my spenders:
35% of spenders will still be here after their first month
it drops to 14% after a year
9% after 2 years
5% after 3 years.

MobileVRXXX 09-21-2022 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_musk (Post 23044941)
A few interesting stats about CB out of my spenders:
35% of spenders will still be here after their first month
it drops to 14% after a year
9% after 2 years
5% after 3 years.

But those 5% .... FIRE

AzteK 09-21-2022 10:48 AM

I can't get them to respond to my ticket about my spenders

feels bad man


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