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Old 12-11-2015, 10:33 AM   #1
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look who's scared of Trump now: Hillary Clinton

and she's taking the exact strategy against him i mentioned here previously, denounce the hyperbole while embracing the core message:

"Until Monday, when Donald J. Trump proposed a ban on Muslims entering the United States, Hillary Clinton could hardly keep herself from laughing at the mention of his name. “I’m sorry, I can’t help it,” she told ABC News on Sunday, letting out a giggle that made advisers squirm.

She is no longer laughing.

At a town hall here on Wednesday, Mrs. Clinton delivered her most damning, direct criticism of Mr. Trump, saying that he traffics “in prejudice and paranoia,” and that his Muslim proposal was “not only shameful, it’s dangerous.”

But Mrs. Clinton also strove to recognize something stirring in the electorate that Mr. Trump had clearly tapped into.

“It’s O.K., it’s O.K. to be afraid,” she said. “When bad things happen, it does cause anxiety and fear,” she added. “But then you pull yourself together and, especially, if you want to be a leader of our country, and you say: ‘O.K., what are we going to do about it? How are we going to be prepared?’”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/11/us...tter.html?_r=0
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I can't figure out who all the people are that the media claim are "afraid"?

Are any of you guys running around all day "scared"? I'm going out tonight partying...nobody is "afraid". I was at The MGM Grand yesterday and it was packed with cowboys and girls in town for the NFR Rodeo event here. They were all drinking and gambling and having a great time.

The MEDIA are the ones talking about "fear". As usual, they are trying to set the "tone" for the country.

In my mind Trump isn't tapping into "fear".

He's tapping into people who are sick and tired of all this shit.

Saying they are in "fear" or "scared" is ridiculous.
It would be like saying that if a 90 pound 5'8" guy (ISIS) kept harassing a 6'2" 220 pound guy (the U.S.)...that when they big guy decided he had enough of it, he's somehow "scared"?

If ANYBODY reading this is "afraid" please post. If anyone here knows anyone who is "afraid" please post it.
Not "stories" of people afraid.

The media is so full of shit.

And now this morning, the Republican Party began committing suicide.

The news is reporting about the secret meetings with Bush's team and the RNC to have a "brokered" convention to take away the nomination from Trump and disregard the voters.

Wow.

Now I know why every time that Bush is asked if he would support the nominee if it were Trump, he looked confidently at the camera and said: "The Republican nominee will NOT be Donald Trump".

I guess he knew the fix was in from the start. He was the "chosen" one.

The Republicans are fucking up big time. They should be backing their front runner 100%.

Say hello to President Hillary.
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I can't figure out who all the people are that the media claim are "afraid"?

Are any of you guys running around all day "scared"? I'm going out tonight partying...nobody is "afraid". I was at The MGM Grand yesterday and it was packed with cowboys and girls in town for the NFR Rodeo event here. They were all drinking and gambling and having a great time.

The MEDIA are the ones talking about "fear". As usual, they are trying to set the "tone" for the country.

In my mind Trump isn't tapping into "fear".

He's tapping into people who are sick and tired of all this shit.

Saying they are in "fear" or "scared" is ridiculous.
It would be like saying that if a 90 pound 5'8" guy (ISIS) kept harassing a 6'2" 220 pound guy (the U.S.)...that when they big guy decided he had enough of it, he's somehow "scared"?

If ANYBODY reading this is "afraid" please post. If anyone here knows anyone who is "afraid" please post it.
Not "stories" of people afraid.

The media is so full of shit.

And now this morning, the Republican Party began committing suicide.

The news is reporting about the secret meetings with Bush's team and the RNC to have a "brokered" convention to take away the nomination from Trump and disregard the voters.

Wow.

Now I know why every time that Bush is asked if he would support the nominee if it were Trump, he looked confidently at the camera and said: "The Republican nominee will NOT be Donald Trump".

I guess he knew the fix was in from the start. He was the "chosen" one.

The Republicans are fucking up big time. They should be backing their front runner 100%.

Say hello to President Hillary.
Well said

I'm going to a party tomorrow night, then a Toy run from Glendale Harley to a mission in downtown LA on Sunday.

I avoid gun free zones, they are just too dangerous!
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Old 12-11-2015, 10:59 AM   #4
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I can't figure out who all the people are that the media claim are "afraid"?

Are any of you guys running around all day "scared"? I'm going out tonight partying...nobody is "afraid". I was at The MGM Grand yesterday and it was packed with cowboys and girls in town for the NFR Rodeo event here. They were all drinking and gambling and having a great time.

The MEDIA are the ones talking about "fear". As usual, they are trying to set the "tone" for the country.

In my mind Trump isn't tapping into "fear".

He's tapping into people who are sick and tired of all this shit.

Saying they are in "fear" or "scared" is ridiculous.
It would be like saying that if a 90 pound 5'8" guy (ISIS) kept harassing a 6'2" 220 pound guy (the U.S.)...that when they big guy decided he had enough of it, he's somehow "scared"?

If ANYBODY reading this is "afraid" please post. If anyone here knows anyone who is "afraid" please post it.
Not "stories" of people afraid.

The media is so full of shit.

And now this morning, the Republican Party began committing suicide.

The news is reporting about the secret meetings with Bush's team and the RNC to have a "brokered" convention to take away the nomination from Trump and disregard the voters.

Wow.

Now I know why every time that Bush is asked if he would support the nominee if it were Trump, he looked confidently at the camera and said: "The Republican nominee will NOT be Donald Trump".

I guess he knew the fix was in from the start. He was the "chosen" one.

The Republicans are fucking up big time. They should be backing their front runner 100%.

Say hello to President Hillary.

i'm the one that chose the word afraid and i meant it. not sure if you're paying attention but dems/libs exclaim Trump is a "joke" i.e not a worthy adversary. the race for POTUS is a RACE, a competition. the fact that Hillary is seriously addressing Trump means she's realized she needs to be concerned about him winning and her losing, consequently, that fear (being afraid of losing) is why she is now no longer laughing at Trump as a joke.
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Sorry, I wasn't referring to what you said about Clinton. I was referring to what she said about people being afraid of Muslims and the media constantly saying that Trump is playing off of everyone's fear.
My observation is that people aren't afraid, they are fed up.
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Sorry, I wasn't referring to what you said about Clinton. I was referring to what she said about people being afraid of Muslims and the media constantly saying that Trump is playing off of everyone's fear.
My observation is that people aren't afraid, they are fed up.
oh, i see now, sorry. but, fear of terrorism has shot to the #1 issue of this race. it was currently ~3%, at the bottom, i'll try and dig up the article, read it earlier
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here it is

In the aftermath of attacks by Islamic extremists in Paris and in San Bernardino, Calif., a plurality of the public views the threat of terrorism as the top issue facing the country. A month ago, only 4 percent of Americans said terrorism was the most important problem; now, 19 percent say it is, above any other issue.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/11/us...-cbs-poll.html

i'm serious when i say that if there's another terrorist attack here while Trump is in the running, he's the next POTUS.
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In the aftermath of attacks by Islamic extremists in Paris and in San Bernardino, Calif., a plurality of the public views the threat of terrorism as the top issue facing the country. A month ago, only 4 percent of Americans said terrorism was the most important problem; now, 19 percent say it is, above any other issue.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/11/us...-cbs-poll.html

i'm serious when i say that if there's another terrorist attack here while Trump is in the running, he's the next POTUS.
I agree and as Isis continues to grow and the Obama Nation continues to ignore them with their 65 nation coalition, that's really only 20 and Canada is pulling their support, we will have more terrorist attacks
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I agree and as Isis continues to grow and the Obama Nation continues to ignore them with their 65 nation coalition, that's really only 20 and Canada is pulling their support, we will have more terrorist attacks
sadly, BO has put America in a no-win sitch against isil. we can't destroy them without occupying SYria/Iraq, which will just create more isils, but we can't ignore them because they are attacking US.

the only chance the USA and the West has is to empower sunni arabs in those regions, and have them take back their own territories.
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She is a traitor to US by saying that she welcomes illegals (=criminals).
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Republicans expressed confidence in Mr. Trump’s ability to confront terrorism: Seven in 10 voters who said they were likely to vote in a Republican primary said he was well equipped to respond to the threat, with four in 10 “very confident” he could handle terrorism. Only Senator Ted Cruz of Texas comes close to those numbers.


“He’ll keep a sharp eye on those Muslims,” Bettina Norden, 60, a farmer in Springfield, Ore., said in a follow-up interview. “He’ll keep the Patriot Act together. He’ll watch immigration. Stop the Muslims from immigrating.”
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No one is running around scared. I don't hear people saying "I am afraid to go to the mall today because there might be a shooting".

At the end of the day these people are mentally ill criminals. No matter what your beliefs are, you should never want to kill other people. Ever.
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I can't figure out who all the people are that the media claim are "afraid"?

Are any of you guys running around all day "scared"?
Popular phrase from liberals, Suckonthis will ask me what I'm afraid of in every thread about guns. According to him I'm a scared pussy because I own guns.


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sounds like a pussy
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LOL! No one is afraid of Donald Trump.
Mainstream media, republicans, democrats, lobbyists are all afraid of The Donald.

They are even comparing him to Hitler. Every side has tried to pull out all the stops to finish him from the race. Its not working and they're shitting themselves.
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sounds like a pussy
Calling someone names from the comfort of your grandmothers basement?
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i'll rephrase it in deference to you,

Trump is no joke.
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and she's taking the exact strategy against him i mentioned here previously, denounce the hyperbole while embracing the core message:

"Until Monday, when Donald J. Trump proposed a ban on Muslims entering the United States, Hillary Clinton could hardly keep herself from laughing at the mention of his name. â??Iâ??m sorry, I canâ??t help it,â? she told ABC News on Sunday, letting out a giggle that made advisers squirm.

She is no longer laughing.

At a town hall here on Wednesday, Mrs. Clinton delivered her most damning, direct criticism of Mr. Trump, saying that he traffics â??in prejudice and paranoia,â? and that his Muslim proposal was â??not only shameful, itâ??s dangerous.â?

But Mrs. Clinton also strove to recognize something stirring in the electorate that Mr. Trump had clearly tapped into.

â??Itâ??s O.K., itâ??s O.K. to be afraid,â? she said. â??When bad things happen, it does cause anxiety and fear,â? she added. â??But then you pull yourself together and, especially, if you want to be a leader of our country, and you say: â??O.K., what are we going to do about it? How are we going to be prepared?â??â?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/11/us...tter.html?_r=0
Calling a spade a spade is being afraid? Give me a break, Trump has like a third of the Republican support. He can't even get half of the Republican party to support him. He's not gonna come close to the support he needs to win the presidential election.

When he looses horribly, you guys will whine and claim it was because of the evil liberal media..
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Calling a spade a spade is being afraid? Give me a break, Trump has like a third of the Republican support. He can't even get half of the Republican party to support him. He's not gonna come close to the support he needs to win the presidential election.

When he looses horribly, you guys will whine and claim it was because of the evil liberal media..
heads-up, i'm pointing out how fucking stupid it is that libtards like you think he's a joke.

i'm not fan of Hillary but she's not stupid. and i've never predicted he'll win or that your butt buddy libtard media bros would keep him from that.

p.s., you're the ones embarrassing yourselves calling him a joke.
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No one is running around scared. I don't hear people saying "I am afraid to go to the mall today because there might be a shooting".

At the end of the day these people are mentally ill criminals. No matter what your beliefs are, you should never want to kill other people. Ever.
Somebody must be afraid of something with all the gun buying and unarmed people being shot.

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I can't figure out who all the people are that the media claim are "afraid"?

Are any of you guys running around all day "scared"? I'm going out tonight partying...nobody is "afraid". I was at The MGM Grand yesterday and it was packed with cowboys and girls in town for the NFR Rodeo event here. They were all drinking and gambling and having a great time.

The MEDIA are the ones talking about "fear". As usual, they are trying to set the "tone" for the country.

In my mind Trump isn't tapping into "fear".

He's tapping into people who are sick and tired of all this shit.

Saying they are in "fear" or "scared" is ridiculous.
It would be like saying that if a 90 pound 5'8" guy (ISIS) kept harassing a 6'2" 220 pound guy (the U.S.)...that when they big guy decided he had enough of it, he's somehow "scared"?

If ANYBODY reading this is "afraid" please post. If anyone here knows anyone who is "afraid" please post it.
Not "stories" of people afraid.

The media is so full of shit.

And now this morning, the Republican Party began committing suicide.

The news is reporting about the secret meetings with Bush's team and the RNC to have a "brokered" convention to take away the nomination from Trump and disregard the voters.

Wow.

Now I know why every time that Bush is asked if he would support the nominee if it were Trump, he looked confidently at the camera and said: "The Republican nominee will NOT be Donald Trump".

I guess he knew the fix was in from the start. He was the "chosen" one.

The Republicans are fucking up big time. They should be backing their front runner 100%.

Say hello to President Hillary.
Here is how I see it. It isn't fear in a traditional sense meaning there aren't very many people out there who are afraid to go to the mall or who might not be going to a movie because they are afraid of something happening. However, there is a deeper seeded fear. If a person wants to block any and all Muslims from coming into the US they are afraid of something, maybe they are afraid that one of them might be a terrorist or that they are going to recruit people here to their cause. People fear that immigrants might take their jobs or over run their cities etc.

There is plenty of fear out there, but its just not the hysterical kind like we typically would see. All we need to do is look at how many guns were bought after the attack in San Bernadino to know that people are afraid.
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The MEDIA are the ones talking about "fear". As usual, they are trying to set the "tone" for the country.
They're so used to labeling everything as a "phobia", they've forgotten what real fear actually is.

Or maybe it's deliberate, to try and get the masses to lose their comprehension of what real fear is. An alternative psychology is needed, as well as an alternative media
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I bet he would say it like that too and not understand what's wrong..
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heads-up, i'm pointing out how fucking stupid it is that libtards like you think he's a joke.

i'm not fan of Hillary but she's not stupid. and i've never predicted he'll win or that your butt buddy libtard media bros would keep him from that.

p.s., you're the ones embarrassing yourselves calling him a joke.
He is a fucking joke. What is sad, is he actually appeals to a large part of the right wing. He will never win, but it's scary to see how crazy the far right is getting as each election cycle passes on..each time they get more radical than the last..
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at least I do not live in fear of gun free zones ...
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Calling a spade a spade is being afraid? Give me a break, Trump has like a third of the Republican support. He can't even get half of the Republican party to support him. He's not gonna come close to the support he needs to win the presidential election.

When he looses horribly, you guys will whine and claim it was because of the evil liberal media..
How many Republican candidates are there? What are the odds of any having 50%

How is your boy Bernie doing?
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Mainstream media, republicans, democrats, lobbyists are all afraid of The Donald.

They are even comparing him to Hitler. Every side has tried to pull out all the stops to finish him from the race. Its not working and they're shitting themselves.
Sorry, let me make a correction. The RNC is afraid of Trump. No one else. There's no way in hell he will win.

And no, the Dems are definitely not afraid of Trump. They just can't believe their awesome luck.
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i'll rephrase it in deference to you,

Trump is no joke.
Um, yeah. He's a joke. He's a YEEEWWWG joke.

He may win the nomination, but he will lose the election.
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Somebody must be afraid of something with all the gun buying and unarmed people being shot.

It's amazing how many firearms are being purchased. On Black Friday they had nearly two hundred thousand applications for firearms permits. That's fucking insane.
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Calling a spade a spade is being afraid? Give me a break, Trump has like a third of the Republican support. He can't even get half of the Republican party to support him. He's not gonna come close to the support he needs to win the presidential election.

When he looses horribly, you guys will whine and claim it was because of the evil liberal media..
Even if Trump gets the nomination, he will not carry enough of the Republicans to win. At the very same time he will loose large demographics that he needs badly, mostly with the Hispanics, women, the disabled, and now the Muslims.

This will be a massive embarrassment for the Republican party.
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How many Republican candidates are there? What are the odds of any having 50%

How is your boy Bernie doing?
Oddly enough if you do the math.. More Americans support Bernie than Trump. Trump has 30.6% of Republican Support. Bernie has 30.8% of Democrats support.

There are more registered Democrats in this country than Republicans that small percentage diffrence translates to millions more people.

Don't let TV coverage fool you, that doesn't equal actual support. Trump gets shit loads of TV air time because he's always saying stupid shit..

Hillary obviously leads Bernie so she has even more support..

Don't let stupid polls fool you into think Trump has a lot of support.. Those polls are only Republicans and Republicans make up around 30% of registered voters in this country. Democrats are 36% I think.

So yeah, my boy Bernie has more support than Trump but the media gives him no where near the same percentage of air time..
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Oddly enough if you do the math.. More Americans support Bernie than Trump. Trump has 30.6% of Republican Support. Bernie has 30.8% of Democrats support.

There are more registered Democrats in this country than Republicans that small percentage diffrence translates to millions more people.

Don't let TV coverage fool you, that doesn't equal actual support. Trump gets shit loads of TV air time because he's always saying stupid shit..

Hillary obviously leads Bernie so she has even more support..

Don't let stupid polls fool you into think Trump has a lot of support.. Those polls are only Republicans and Republicans make up around 30% of registered voters in this country. Democrats are 36% I think.

So yeah, my boy Bernie has more support than Trump but the media gives him no where near the same percentage of air time..
Using your logic, there is no reason for the election.
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Actually just for clarification I looked up the current registered voters and I was off.. But it actually makes Bernie way fucking stronger than Trump..



"7, 2015. A Deep Dive Into Party Affiliation. 39% of Americans identify as independents, more than they do as Democrats ( 32%) or as Republicans (23%). This is the highest percentage of independents in more than 75 years of "
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Using your logic, there is no reason for the election.
We will have it so you can cry about the results..
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It's amazing how many firearms are being purchased. On Black Friday they had nearly two hundred thousand applications for firearms permits. That's fucking insane.
I think it was more like 1.5 million. BO is the greatest gun salesman ever, 100 million guns sold under his presidency.
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Actually just for clarification I looked up the current registered voters and I was off.. But it actually makes Bernie way fucking stronger than Trump..



"7, 2015. A Deep Dive Into Party Affiliation. 39% of Americans identify as independents, more than they do as Democrats ( 32%) or as Republicans (23%). This is the highest percentage of independents in more than 75 years of "
70% of trump supporters poll that they'd jump ship with him and vote independent.
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70% of trump supporters poll that they'd jump ship with him and vote independent.
So 70% of 23% equals more because it sounds like a bigger number? LOL
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So I guess all commits come to a halt, when it's shown even Bernie Sanders has more support than Trump..
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So 70% of 23% equals more because it sounds like a bigger number? LOL
I was merely adding another statistic, I wasn't disputing.

Trumps appeal trumps party affiliation with quite a few voters. Hillary figured that out. That's why she's appealing to them using trumps hyperbole.
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So I guess all commits come to a halt, when it's shown even Bernie Sanders has more support than Trump..
What????
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What????
It's crockett science.
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It's crockett science.
Its basic math, but you must forgotten it in those 70 years you've been out of school..

I realize you right wingers hate science, math and common sense..
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