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j3rkules · 02-11-2016, 05:00 PM

Fiddy payouts minimum's.

brassmonkey · 02-11-2016, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jerkules

Fiddy payouts minimum's.

fiddy farting doggs would have been better

#23 · 02-11-2016, 05:51 PM

If you can't make a payout then you don't need to promote adult

Matyko · 02-11-2016, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

the Matekyo guy pm say he suck owner cock and stop being so mean.

My name is MATYKO, you retarded motherfucker

Indeed I sent you a Private Message to let you know why you are wrong on many levels.

I was thinking that you are an OK guy just went mad for some reason and made a stupid post. I was terribly wrong. You are a retarded troll on this board, probably making less than $1 per month.

Now some stats for you, how Dogfart.com sites were performing for me in since I am an affiliate:
I made $359.444 [yes, almost $360k USD] via 6051 paysite membership sales while had 3 refunds and 1 chargeback.

I am sure you haven't made a single sale with them, but you came here to harm their business in this thread, you piece of chicken shit

So just shut the fuck up you nobody.
While you were fucking around here on this board in the last 48 hours I made more money in 100% legit ways and hard work, than from what you and your entire family earn in one month

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Originally Posted by JA$ON

Do people really think that a VERY old, well established program that has never missed a payout, has a great reputation and made its owner tens of millions of dollars woke up one day and said...."I know, lets increase our annual revenue by 0.05% by upping the min payout. All those suckers who do a couple sales and never reach the $200 are fucked!!!"

I know people like to blame others for them not making money, but wow. Just Laughable

plaster · 02-12-2016, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Matyko

My name is MATYKO, you retarded motherfucker

Indeed I sent you a Private Message to let you know why you are wrong on many levels.

I was thinking that you are an OK guy just went mad for some reason and made a stupid post. I was terribly wrong. You are a retarded troll on this board, probably making less than $1 per month.

Now some stats for you, how Dogfart.com sites were performing for me in since I am an affiliate:
I made $359.444 [yes, almost $360k USD] via 6051 paysite membership sales while had 3 refunds and 1 chargeback.

I am sure you haven't made a single sale with them, but you came here to harm their business in this thread, you piece of chicken shit

So just shut the fuck up you nobody.
While you were fucking around here on this board in the last 48 hours I made more money in 100% legit ways and hard work, than from what you and your entire family earn in one month

That's great number of sales.

Something is off though because you average $60 per sale and charge backs and refunds are a statistical impossibility.

They have 1 upsale that I could see and offer $60 pps or 80% revshare for those that average 15 sales or higher per day.

So either they have a different join form for affiliates, have 1 click up sales inside members area to make the profit... or you are full of shit.

Matyko · 02-12-2016, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by plaster

That's great number of sales.

Something is off though because you average $60 per sale and charge backs and refunds are a statistical impossibility.

They have 1 upsale that I could see and offer $60 pps or 80% revshare for those that average 15 sales or higher per day.

So either they have a different join form for affiliates, have 1 click up sales inside members area to make the profit... or you are full of shit.

I have no idea why the 'statistically impossible' low number of refunds and CBs, I am getting this info from my niftystats

Most of my sale were indeed $60 pps, I achieved this when cumbang.com came out. I never ever made 15 sales per day with them. By the time I got bumped to $60 pps the conditions were different. I had to make 4-5 sales per day [I don't remember accurately] for one period to qualify. I was not making that much sales all the time - with time the number of sales I sent them decreased.

ALL these sales are from plain affiliate activity: TGP gallery submitting was responsible for 80% of these I am guessing.

Anyone who knows me can confirm that I am absolutely not full of shit.

But technically I have no more information on how they managed to be able to pay this PPS. By that time a monthly membership was $34.99 if I remember well, now its $24.99. They are Not paying PPS on trial though, and never had crazy cross-sales. Their Network is kinda 'young' available only since a few years ago. Earlier the cross sales were to other sites of theirs, as with one membership you got only one individual site's content. That's all I know.

plaster · 02-12-2016, 01:14 AM

I have no reason to doubt you matyko... but I can guarantee you that on 6k sales there is way more chargebacks and refunds that occurred on your sales. If program ate it, or nifty stats doesn't pull it (likely), so be it.

But the payout is too high to stay afloat with only 1 cross sale above the fold and easily unchecked. I actually don't give a fuck... just talking out loud.

And from my experience, raising the min payout is a sign of problems. And it usually is because of nefarious billing and pressure from Visa and mastercard.

Matyko · 02-12-2016, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by plaster

I have no reason to doubt you matyko... but I can guarantee you that on 6k sales there is way more chargebacks and refunds that occurred on your sales. If program ate it, or nifty stats doesn't pull it (likely), so be it.

But the payout is too high to stay afloat with only 1 cross sale above the fold and easily unchecked. I actually don't give a fuck... just talking out loud.

And from my experience, raising the min payout is a sign of problems. And it usually is because of nefarious billing and pressure from Visa and mastercard.

I think the same, that either the program ate it or nifty pulled it wrong. It doesn't really matter. Back than when I was making lots of sales with them each and every day I remember asking them how this worth it for them. I was told that if there's a second rebill it's already OK with them. By that time there was no whitelabel cam in the member area and using just one easy-to-uncheck cross sale selling their other own sites of the 'site family' totally makes sense. I know for sure that they were never card bangers, like many programs by that time. They were always focusing on staying in the industry for long time and never went for the quick n easy money. During all these years I got in touch with many other dogfart affiliates, and never ever heard a single complaint on them. The worst thing that 'happened' is that the conversions of certain sites/tours were not the best at some points, but they always noticed that of course and they were always developing and pimping the tours, until this very day.

The rising of the minimum payout does not necessarily mean any issues. One thing I know for sure is that they are absolutely not 'struggling' or considering 'closing shop' . They have the fucccckkking money and always had and always will. I tell you what: if something finally really destroys the paysite business models, they will be one of the very last programs to close shop, along with bangbros and realitykings. And I am, 100% sure that even if dogfart or these other mentioned programs need to close shop, there is NO CHANCE AT ALL that they are not paying out every last cent they owe to their affiliates.

Because Dogfart.com is not a lame boy but a professional businessman who was and is involved in other ventures besides this and even if this income is getting depleted totally he won't be broke at all.

That's my point of view though.. And I believe that Usually increasing the payout limits is not a good sign. I remember when NicheCastle increased the payout limit of epass. The reaction - in general - is understandable.

But here's one more thing: the high limit is for paxum. An optional payment method. Yes, checks are $200 too which is high imo too, but not tragic. Also, as stated earlier: if you're a long time, trustworthy but small affiliate and this harms you: I am 100% sure they are willing to send you out a check for less than $200 or paxum you for less than $300.

plaster · 02-12-2016, 01:50 AM

Owner already said he changed back to lower limits and will eat the fraud.

Just let it see how it plays out. I would love to know the formula to offer $60 pps and not bang cards. I have guys I know who do 200+ sales daily that would love to know the same.

MrMaxwell · 02-12-2016, 02:13 AM

I think he had a small percentage of his sales as revshare sales and most at PPS which must not debit his aff acct for chargebacks . I think that's how that many sales with one chargeback could be possible .

MrMaxwell · 02-12-2016, 02:14 AM

I don't know MatyKO so I'm just guessing but he does write genuinely from what I see on this page, my two cents, I believe him

Jel · 02-12-2016, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JA$ON

Do people really think that a VERY old, well established program that has never missed a payout, has a great reputation and made its owner tens of millions of dollars woke up one day and said...."I know, lets increase our annual revenue by 0.05% by upping the min payout. All those suckers who do a couple sales and never reach the $200 are fucked!!!"

I know people like to blame others for them not making money, but wow. Just Laughable

the mindset is boggling isn't it

Dogfart = one of the easiest and most solid programs to work with

babydred · 02-12-2016, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel

the mindset is boggling isn't it

Dogfart = one of the easiest and most solid programs to work with

+1 for Dogfart. I totally agree with Jel, they're definitely one of the easiest and most solid programs to work with.

Matyko · 02-12-2016, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

I don't know MatyKO so I'm just guessing but he does write genuinely from what I see on this page, my two cents, I believe him

I am not sure you don't know me.. Aren't you from Sweden? If yes, I bought a pack of domains from you ages ago, and also sold you a poker domain ages ago

fuzebox · 02-12-2016, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by plaster

I would love to know the formula to offer $60 pps and not bang cards.

They do not pay PPS on trial signups. They are collecting a full $29.95 up front and paying $60 on it. You don't get that formula?

mineistaken · 02-12-2016, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

They do not pay PPS on trial signups. They are collecting a full $29.95 up front and paying $60 on it. You don't get that formula?

Plus 1 prechecked cross sale + member area upsales (cams etc).

mineistaken · 02-12-2016, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by plaster

Owner already said he changed back to lower limits and will eat the fraud.

To be honest I feel bad that they switched back to the old minimums just because of this thread.

They should have just said this:

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Originally Posted by Matyko

if you're a long time, trustworthy but small affiliate and this harms you: I am 100% sure they are willing to send you out a check for less than $200 or paxum you for less than $300.

Having said that - I wonder how much of a difference would 200 vs 300 mean in fighting fraud. Yes having 300 in non rebilling sales has more probability of being fraud than having 200 of non rebilling sales from new affiliates, but in both scenarios you either pay out, or put payout on hold. So not sure if there is a huge difference in that regard.

Jel · 02-13-2016, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

To be honest I feel bad that they switched back to the old minimums just because of this thread.

I'm amazed they did... shows you their character... a tiny group of people who send hardly any sales moan, and rather than do what's best for them, they eat the problems just to keep the tiny few happy - speaks volumes about them.

Also a fuck of a lot of guesswork in this thread from people who have no clue. 'about to close' lmfao

HowlingWulf · 02-13-2016, 09:28 AM

Why not high minimum payout for new affiliates that lowers after 1 year or 2? Would that help?

Horatio Caine · 02-13-2016, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Matyko

I think the same, that either the program ate it or nifty pulled it wrong. It doesn't really matter. Back than when I was making lots of sales with them each and every day I remember asking them how this worth it for them. I was told that if there's a second rebill it's already OK with them. By that time there was no whitelabel cam in the member area and using just one easy-to-uncheck cross sale selling their other own sites of the 'site family' totally makes sense. I know for sure that they were never card bangers, like many programs by that time. They were always focusing on staying in the industry for long time and never went for the quick n easy money. During all these years I got in touch with many other dogfart affiliates, and never ever heard a single complaint on them. The worst thing that 'happened' is that the conversions of certain sites/tours were not the best at some points, but they always noticed that of course and they were always developing and pimping the tours, until this very day.

The rising of the minimum payout does not necessarily mean any issues. One thing I know for sure is that they are absolutely not 'struggling' or considering 'closing shop' . They have the fucccckkking money and always had and always will. I tell you what: if something finally really destroys the paysite business models, they will be one of the very last programs to close shop, along with bangbros and realitykings. And I am, 100% sure that even if dogfart or these other mentioned programs need to close shop, there is NO CHANCE AT ALL that they are not paying out every last cent they owe to their affiliates.

Because Dogfart.com is not a lame boy but a professional businessman who was and is involved in other ventures besides this and even if this income is getting depleted totally he won't be broke at all.

That's my point of view though.. And I believe that Usually increasing the payout limits is not a good sign. I remember when NicheCastle increased the payout limit of epass. The reaction - in general - is understandable.

But here's one more thing: the high limit is for paxum. An optional payment method. Yes, checks are $200 too which is high imo too, but not tragic. Also, as stated earlier: if you're a long time, trustworthy but small affiliate and this harms you: I am 100% sure they are willing to send you out a check for less than $200 or paxum you for less than $300.

Brass, I know its way too many letters for you tiny brain but you should read this anyway. He has a good point.

ITraffic · 02-13-2016, 09:48 AM

au contraire. the payout should be set to a min of $1000.

could be a grad present for bm's great-great-great-grandchild.

Google Expert · 02-13-2016, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Matyko

I made $359.444 [yes, almost $360k USD] via 6051 paysite membership sales while had 3 refunds and 1 chargeback.

Bullshit.

Google Expert · 02-13-2016, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Another reason to promote CCBill websites.
Minimum payout: $20

(And you can merge sales from different Programs into a single check. If you can't get a CCBill payout then you shouldn't be an adult webmaster.)

If you need to fall back on this strategy, you have no place working online. Go fill out a Walmart application.

Google Expert · 02-13-2016, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Having said that - I wonder how much of a difference would 200 vs 300 mean in fighting fraud. Yes having 300 in non rebilling sales has more probability of being fraud than having 200 of non rebilling sales from new affiliates, but in both scenarios you either pay out, or put payout on hold. So not sure if there is a huge difference in that regard.

Why not push the payout periods further? So that chargebacks start rolling in before you have to make a payout.

Penny24Seven · 02-13-2016, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

fiddy farting doggs would have been better

Did you copy and paste that?

Penny24Seven · 02-13-2016, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

hotlinked

Did you copy and paste that?

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

well the small accounts they will keep the money. since the payout is high

Did you copy and paste that?

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

yep! even $300!!

Did you copy and paste that?

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

I like to suck cock so what if I do

Did you copy and paste that?

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

who gives a fuck you run a small program??

Did you copy and paste that?

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

you have a purdy site. socks

Did you copy and paste that?

brassmonkey · 02-13-2016, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian837

Did you copy and paste that?
Did you copy and paste that?

Did you copy and paste that?

Did you copy and paste that?

Did you copy and paste that?

Did you copy and paste that?

you tard!!

Penny24Seven · 02-13-2016, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

you tard!!

You copy and pasted that I bet

Matyko · 02-13-2016, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Muad'Dib

Bullshit.

Would you bet on it? Let's begin with 1k. If it's OK for you, let's ask the program owner who posts in this thread and can confirm or say bullshit too. You fucking retard.

fuzebox · 02-13-2016, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Matyko

Would you bet on it? Let's begin with 1k. If it's OK for you, let's ask the program owner who posts in this thread and can confirm or say bullshit too. You fucking retard.

Don't feed the trolls

Satisfaction · 02-13-2016, 09:50 PM

That Matekoy guy

brassmonkey · 02-14-2016, 02:21 PM

not pulling links

will try to send more traffic.

god i hope you raise the payout. shit i signed up when you first started. when comus thumbs was the shit

mineistaken · 02-14-2016, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

god i hope you raise the payout

multiple personality disorder?

brassmonkey · 02-14-2016, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

multiple personality disorder?

nope a mistake

god you are a part of the problem with gfy.

mineistaken · 02-14-2016, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

nope a mistake

god you are a part of the problem with gfy.

brassmonkey · 02-14-2016, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

you are above 18??

xXXtesy10 · 02-14-2016, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Satisfaction

That Matekoy guy

the bro dicksucking is strong in him

Satisfaction · 02-14-2016, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

the bro dicksucking is strong in him

420 · 02-14-2016, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

nope a mistake

god you are a part of the problem with gfy.

brassmonkey · 02-14-2016, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 420

wrong 420 i still post!!! i know reps that avoid gfy because of your shit!!

and users like u!

plaster · 02-14-2016, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Matyko

Would you bet on it? Let's begin with 1k. If it's OK for you, let's ask the program owner who posts in this thread and can confirm or say bullshit too. You fucking retard.

Read the highlighted text you quoted.

Matyko · 02-14-2016, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by plaster

Read the highlighted text you quoted.

Broken english, my bad.

Everyone is able to understand what I am talking about though - I guess.

I finished with bumping this thread, doesn't make any sense to come back here and talk with trolls like the dipshit dude from delhi

Google Expert · 02-15-2016, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Matyko

Broken english, my bad.

Everyone is able to understand what I am talking about though - I guess.

I finished with bumping this thread, doesn't make any sense to come back here and talk with trolls like the dipshit dude from delhi

you can't fucking read and i'm a troll? go fuck a goat, dumb kurwa

P.S.
what made you think i was from Delhi? the fact that you don't know shit about classic literature?

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02-12-2016, 01:14 AM	#57
plaster So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 2,295	I have no reason to doubt you matyko... but I can guarantee you that on 6k sales there is way more chargebacks and refunds that occurred on your sales. If program ate it, or nifty stats doesn't pull it (likely), so be it. But the payout is too high to stay afloat with only 1 cross sale above the fold and easily unchecked. I actually don't give a fuck... just talking out loud. And from my experience, raising the min payout is a sign of problems. And it usually is because of nefarious billing and pressure from Visa and mastercard.

02-12-2016, 01:50 AM	#59
plaster So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 2,295	Owner already said he changed back to lower limits and will eat the fraud. Just let it see how it plays out. I would love to know the formula to offer $60 pps and not bang cards. I have guys I know who do 200+ sales daily that would love to know the same.

02-12-2016, 02:13 AM	#60
MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	I think he had a small percentage of his sales as revshare sales and most at PPS which must not debit his aff acct for chargebacks . I think that's how that many sales with one chargeback could be possible .

02-12-2016, 02:14 AM	#61
MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	I don't know MatyKO so I'm just guessing but he does write genuinely from what I see on this page, my two cents, I believe him

02-13-2016, 09:48 AM	#71
ITraffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,726	au contraire. the payout should be set to a min of $1000. could be a grad present for bm's great-great-great-grandchild.

02-13-2016, 09:50 PM	#81
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