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Old 03-02-2016, 04:46 PM   #51
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More or less false. Trapped inside your little tourist box of Parque Lleras you'll find many people that feel that way. There is a pretty big segregation between the rich and the poor in Medellin, and "most everyone" as you put it, would be the poor as they far outweigh the rich and very small middle class in numbers. Most will praise Pablo Escobar based on ignorance, fame, or because they or family members/friends, 'worked for', or knew someone that 'worked for' Pablo Escobar. They'll say that but who knows just how connected their shady dealings actually were. Pablo had some legal building/court burned down which at the time included thousands of records of crimes/legal processes from other people, who had to be let off the hook or even taken out of jail! Not something they would've forgotten about any time soon. Besides the soccer fields and all that other stuff, which of course, would not help much in the long run. However with or without Pablo, they still do a fine job of exploiting, underpaying, overworking, and overlooking the lower class. Go to where Pablo Escobar helped out ghettos and things like that and see what they have to say, not in Parque Lleras with your cargo shorts on and flip flops looking like a faggot asking the people he terrorized what they think about him.



I wasn't here during that time but it must've been absolutely nuts. I was lucky enough to start living here before the huge gringo influx, before the photomultas (traffic cameras), drinking driving laws, and many other things that have changed over the years. I remember one of the first ATMs I used, the bank and the ATM itself still had bullet holes in them. I've owned two bulletproof vehicles here. At least a thousand more crazier stories that I won't talk about.
Interesting mentality - praise scum murderer just because he was making public relations such as building football fields.
It explains why they are poor, I mean you must not be very bright to prais trash or the trash murderer such as Escobar.
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I had friends who went to Pablo's house, it was on a tour guide, so i guess it just depends on which tour you go on, some may despise the whole cocaine/Escobar, but some may glorify it (example, many rap songs in USA glorify Pablo Escobar, of course there is huge demand for tourist to arrive there and want to go take pics at his house, that's how people are, unfortunately)
Rap songs in USA glorify crime and criminal by default so not sure if that is something very relevant to discussing of how local citizens (not scum rappers or scum criminals) feel.
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The whole city is still nothing more than a money laundering trashcan right now.

Too bad there are people there because the natural surrounding are amazing. People just fuck everything up.

You wanna talk about the "vibe" of the city. All the rich live in guarded buildings. Cars are checked for bombs by security (look under the car with mirrors and check the trunk) when they go into the mall parking.

There are more bomb sniffing dogs in the city than pet dogs...just open your eyes and look around. Sure there are drugs and whores there but you can find those everywhere so big fucking deal.

Guess you have to pay a desperate puta to get your cock sucked...something to be proud of? I don't think so.

But for gringos who are used to living under the pseudo freedom in the US it seems like paradise...just wait until reality hits you in the face and if you stay there long enough it will.
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Rap songs in USA glorify crime and criminal by default so not sure if that is something very relevant to discussing of how local citizens (not scum rappers or scum criminals) feel.
Realistically, example, group of young Americans, will go down to a place like that, and would have interest in seeing it and taking pics. Look it up, there is a demand for it, and there are in fact tours or private taxi's that will take you there.
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Realistically, example, group of young Americans, will go down to a place like that, and would have interest in seeing it and taking pics. Look it up, there is a demand for it, and there are in fact tours or private taxi's that will take you there.
Huh? I obviously agree with you on that ^
How is that related to what I was saying though?

What I was saying is completely different thing (we discussed if locals look positive at him, not if tourists like his tour, 2 different topics, lol)
And on that topic I merely said that rappers rapping positively is no indication of how locals view him for the reason that rappers always rap positively about gangsters.
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I'm giving examples man, anything that is famous will have a demand from tourists! No matter if it's cocaine/escobar in Colombia, or concentration camps in Germany, or even Jeffry Dahmers house!

... quit thinking so much!!!
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In case nobody noticed Pablo died 23 years ago !

I think he continues to be big for most americans probably more than what we down here give a fuck about !
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I think he continues to be big for most americans probably more than what we down here give a fuck about !
I would gaurantee that
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I just finished watching 1st season of Narcos. Holly shit! Makes our local gangsta brassdonkey look like retarded rodeo clown.
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I visited downtown bars and the other clubs. That was fun
But not feeling so save there in the center around 12:00pm.
I felt nowhere save cause of all the stories.
Lalexpo is this year in Cartagena, that is a beautiful old city.
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The whole city is still nothing more than a money laundering trashcan right now.

Too bad there are people there because the natural surrounding are amazing. People just fuck everything up.

You wanna talk about the "vibe" of the city. All the rich live in guarded buildings. Cars are checked for bombs by security (look under the car with mirrors and check the trunk) when they go into the mall parking.

There are more bomb sniffing dogs in the city than pet dogs...just open your eyes and look around. Sure there are drugs and whores there but you can find those everywhere so big fucking deal.

Guess you have to pay a desperate puta to get your cock sucked...something to be proud of? I don't think so.

But for gringos who are used to living under the pseudo freedom in the US it seems like paradise...just wait until reality hits you in the face and if you stay there long enough it will.
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Here are a few pics of the view from the apartment I rented while I was there. We rented it for 3 months.
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how much was you asked for after the 3 hour session?
Most of the time I do not like haggling over price. But I found it was kinda normal to almost have fun with negotiating the price, time and service.

We finally agreed on 90,000 Colombian pesos for 3 hours. As soon as she got into my hotel room she went straight to the mini bar and opened a bottle of Ron Medellin local rum.

Since it was still early afternoon, I asked if it was too early to be drinking. She said it is never too early for drinking and sex.

It was a good session, we used the google translator to communicate and she added all her friends on Facebook to my account who she thought would be interested to meet me. So all in all it was worth it and a fun way to spend the afternoon.
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Most of the time I do not like haggling over price. But I found it was kinda normal to almost have fun with negotiating the price, time and service.

We finally agreed on 90,000 Colombian pesos for 3 hours. As soon as she got into my hotel room she went straight to the mini bar and opened a bottle of Ron Medellin local rum.

Since it was still early afternoon, I asked if it was too early to be drinking. She said it is never too early for drinking and sex.

It was a good session, we used the google translator to communicate and she added all her friends on Facebook to my account who she thought would be interested to meet me. So all in all it was worth it and a fun way to spend the afternoon.
She charged you $28 USD for 3 hours?
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Hanging around Parque Lleras at night it was very easy to meet girls. Even with out speaking a word of Spanish. I used the Google translator app.

After I got a few girls Facebook accounts I was able to add their friends. Again using the Google app I would chat them up. I invited this girl over to my hotel and with in a few hours of adding her to Facebook she was at my hotel.

I didn't know she had all these tattoos, so I was kinda surprised !

Can anyone make out what the pirate tattoo says ?

This is probably 80$ chick!If you paid more..you are crazy:D
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I just finished watching 1st season of Narcos. Holly shit! Makes our local gangsta brassdonkey look like retarded rodeo clown.
if you have Netflix, watch the other longer ones "Escobar, el Patrón del Mal" and the one about the Cali Cartel, "En la Boca del Lobo". They are both pretty good to watch, fairly true to the facts and will really suck you in if you are into this stuff.
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But those few times a hooker or cab driver mentioned Pablo, they were always talking positively about him.
Ah the 2 most trustworthy type of persons in tourist places, whores and cab drivers, spoke highly of him. I bet if Trump had those endorsements he would use them in an ad
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he doesn't need that show for that, he does a perfect job of doing that all by himself
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More or less false. Trapped inside your little tourist box of Parque Lleras you'll find many people that feel that way. There is a pretty big segregation between the rich and the poor in Medellin, and "most everyone" as you put it, would be the poor as they far outweigh the rich and very small middle class in numbers. Most will praise Pablo Escobar based on ignorance, fame, or because they or family members/friends, 'worked for', or knew someone that 'worked for' Pablo Escobar. They'll say that but who knows just how connected their shady dealings actually were. Pablo had some legal building/court burned down which at the time included thousands of records of crimes/legal processes from other people, who had to be let off the hook or even taken out of jail! Not something they would've forgotten about any time soon. Besides the soccer fields and all that other stuff, which of course, would not help much in the long run. However with or without Pablo, they still do a fine job of exploiting, underpaying, overworking, and overlooking the lower class. Go to where Pablo Escobar helped out ghettos and things like that and see what they have to say, not in Parque Lleras with your cargo shorts on and flip flops looking like a faggot asking the people he terrorized what they think about him.



I wasn't here during that time but it must've been absolutely nuts. I was lucky enough to start living here before the huge gringo influx, before the photomultas (traffic cameras), drinking driving laws, and many other things that have changed over the years. I remember one of the first ATMs I used, the bank and the ATM itself still had bullet holes in them. I've owned two bulletproof vehicles here. At least a thousand more crazier stories that I won't talk about.

Ok. I am a tourist and I stay around Parque Lleras. So as a tourist, where do you suggest I stay ?

The info I wrote about Pablo Escobar, is not my personal opinion. It was the info from the tour guide, from the tour I went on. The name of the company is called Real City Walking Tours. If you want you can take up your gripe with them for misleading tourists.

Yes I wear cargo shorts when I travel because I need a place to carry my condoms, lube and disinfectant soap when visiting whore houses. I not wear flip flops, but I can understand tourists on vacation may want to feel as comfortable as possible and to them flip flops are comfortable. I can see how people who have to go to work can be mad that people on vacation don't need to dress up and go to work every day.

Is it good that there is a "gringo influx" ? Or would you rather "gringos" stay away from Medellin ?
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She charged you $28 USD for 3 hours?
This may be 10 year old repost from his surfer forum though...

He tricked us with his Hong Kong diary. This may very well be the same.
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Yes I wear cargo shorts when I travel because I need a place to carry my condoms, lube and disinfectant soap when visiting whore houses. I not wear flip flops, but I can understand tourists on vacation may want to feel as comfortable as possible and to them flip flops are comfortable. I can see how people who have to go to work can be mad that people on vacation don't need to dress up and go to work every day.

Is it good that there is a "gringo influx" ? Or would you rather "gringos" stay away from Medellin ?
PLEASE stay away from Medellin!... (nothing personal)
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That is from Poblado.

Sorry, I didn't mean to disrespect your city or show it in a bad light. I did find the slums interesting.
Have pic of the same building, from Last years LAL Expo
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I barely bring up the subject. But those few times a hooker or cab driver mentioned Pablo, they were always talking positively about him. The guy knew how to buy off the masses. Of course, maybe that's not as difficult when you make more than the state and tax-free at that...
Did you find most people in Colombia don't want to be known for coke and whores ?

From some reports, Peru now produces more cocaine than Colombia, but how is Peru's sex tourism industry ?
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I had friends who went to Pablo's house, it was on a tour guide, so i guess it just depends on which tour you go on, some may despise the whole cocaine/Escobar, but some may glorify it (example, many rap songs in USA glorify Pablo Escobar, of course there is huge demand for tourist to arrive there and want to go take pics at his house, that's how people are, unfortunately)

Yeah I guess it would be pretty cool to get some of pictures doing coke in Pablo Escobar's house ! From what I understand up to 1 gram of cocaine was legalized for personal use in 1994.

I heard on one of the Pablo Escobar tours you can meet his brother who was the accountant for Pablo.

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Interesting mentality - praise scum murderer just because he was making public relations such as building football fields.
It explains why they are poor, I mean you must not be very bright to prais trash or the trash murderer such as Escobar.

... and why is he so mad I took pictures of the slums when he even says the poor far outweigh the rich. I was just taking pictures of what I thought were normal houses and neighborhoods. I wasn't really trying to "exploit" the image of poor peoples houses.

I guess I am part of the gringo influx that he doesn't like. I can understand when people don't like expats moving to a city and making prices go up. But from my travels, I have always known there are lower prices for locals and higher prices for "gringos". I don't mind paying "gringo" prices and I never demand local prices if I don't live there full time.
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Guess you have to pay a desperate puta to get your cock sucked...something to be proud of? I don't think so.

But for gringos who are used to living under the pseudo freedom in the US it seems like paradise...just wait until reality hits you in the face and if you stay there long enough it will.
I don't mind paying. It is better than having to go thru all the trouble of getting it for free.

I can already see the reality. It doesn't take that long to see.
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Realistically, example, group of young Americans, will go down to a place like that, and would have interest in seeing it and taking pics. Look it up, there is a demand for it, and there are in fact tours or private taxi's that will take you there.
Yeah I agree there is interest, but I don't think it is the same as when he lived there. Time changes everything.

I am more interested in going on a DIY Coke Making class or Make Your Own Cocaine Tour.
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Old 03-24-2016, 12:57 AM   #88
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The whole city is still nothing more than a money laundering trashcan right now.

Too bad there are people there because the natural surrounding are amazing. People just fuck everything up.

You wanna talk about the "vibe" of the city. All the rich live in guarded buildings. Cars are checked for bombs by security (look under the car with mirrors and check the trunk) when they go into the mall parking.

There are more bomb sniffing dogs in the city than pet dogs...just open your eyes and look around. Sure there are drugs and whores there but you can find those everywhere so big fucking deal.

Guess you have to pay a desperate puta to get your cock sucked...something to be proud of? I don't think so.

But for gringos who are used to living under the pseudo freedom in the US it seems like paradise...just wait until reality hits you in the face and if you stay there long enough it will.
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Old 03-27-2016, 03:45 AM   #89
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Huh? I obviously agree with you on that ^
How is that related to what I was saying though?

What I was saying is completely different thing (we discussed if locals look positive at him, not if tourists like his tour, 2 different topics, lol)
And on that topic I merely said that rappers rapping positively is no indication of how locals view him for the reason that rappers always rap positively about gangsters.

I don't think locals totally embraced the "Narco Tourism" industry. Of course it is easy to buy coke in Parque Lleras, but it is not like they set up small coke bars.

From what I understand is the Pablo Escobar tours are focused on Hostels and Lower end hotels. I don't think the tours are heavily promoted by the Ministry of Commerce, industry and tourism of Colombia.
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Old 04-01-2016, 02:05 AM   #90
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I'm giving examples man, anything that is famous will have a demand from tourists! No matter if it's cocaine/escobar in Colombia, or concentration camps in Germany, or even Jeffry Dahmers house!

... quit thinking so much!!!

WOW.... there is a Jeffry Dahmer tour. I wonder how much business they get.
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In case nobody noticed Pablo died 23 years ago !

I think he continues to be big for most americans probably more than what we down here give a fuck about !
Maybe the same as it doesn't feel like anyone gives a fuck about coke in Colombia... but in America it is a big deal.
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I would gaurantee that
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This is probably 80$ chick!If you paid more..you are crazy:D
This. You're in Colombia and that's the best you can come up with? Horrible tats, flat ass, belly roll, chipped fingernails, ugly face and skinny no-gym legs and body... at least don't post the pic.
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I just finished watching 1st season of Narcos. Holly shit! Makes our local gangsta brassdonkey look like retarded rodeo clown.

Yeah I want to watch that also. So I guess there is interest in narco TV shows !

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