Paul Markham

Trump has played the fear card again. By telling people not to visit Europe because it's unsafe.

OK, we have a few places that have been hit by terrorist attacks. Should he be very honest and add to the place Americans Shouldn't visit like. Washington, Chicago, Detroit, Memphis, St. Louis, New Orleans, etc. Because statistics prove you're safer in Europe than you are in most US cities.

For the ultra-safe a list of places not to live or visit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ime_rate_(2014)

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notjoe

That is from 2014. I would like to see the updated version once all the latest events are factored in. Come back in a few years, if you're still alive.

SAMANTAmax

Immigrants make all things look messy in Europe

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Paul Markham

I doubt if it will change that much.

102 homicides in first two months of 2016 in Chicago, the one-time U.S. murder capital

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Agree. We have a terrible problem with terrorism and politicians who have no clue how to stop it.

In contrast to America and safety, its record is very good. I'm pointing out that if Americans are being advised about visiting Europe, the same has to be said for many places in America.

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Pornopat

Here is one for 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...by_murder_rate

In 2012 France had a murder rate of 1 per 100k
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_France

In 2012 Belgium had a murderate of 1.6 per 100k
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Belgium

There were a total of 182 murders in Belgium in 2012
31 people got killed in the Brussel attack.

Lets assume more attacks will follow in Belgium killing about 150 more people (I hope not!)
The Belgian number would jump to a whopping 3.2 which is very uncommon for europe.

Average number for USA again?
3.8....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._homicide_rate

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Sednub997

If this stats are from 2014 the numbers are increasing for europe countries

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Rob

Europe is about to become blast central. You invite hornets into your homes, you can expect to get stung. There are hundreds, if not thousands of cells spread across Europe waiting to turn it up. The next couple months is going to be tragic in Europe. I see some District 9 type shit occurring, and instead of Prawns, they'll be 'Slums.

Shit is about to get real over there.

Rob

And when did "common sense" become "fear mongering"?

CaptainHowdy

Ok, Paulie ...

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Stop with the bullshit charts already!

Make a fair comparison of persons killed in terrorist attacks by country.

The US would by far lead the pack with over 4,000 dead if the chart was from 2000-today and if the chart was for the past 12 months;

SYRIA
IRAQ
TURKEY?
PAKISTAN?
....

....

FRANCE
BELGIUM

and near the bottom
USA <50 dead

Comparing apples and oranges and cherry picking statistics is meaningless.

This year we may have our annual meeting in Romania (where we have offices now in addition to Rotterdam and Curaçao). Frankly, I was a bit paranoid in public places in Paris this year -- for good reason. A month after I left the terrorist attacks in Paris in November, 2015 occurred.

Trump is just mirroring common fears here -- something fear-mongers do.

America may be a dangerous place for common criminal killing but it always has been. Most of us can deal with but it seems "Euro Pussies" cannot. So, stay safe in the Czech Republic because the Islamic Terrorist State is not targeting you. If you visit the UK I would keep my back to the wall with my eyes open and aware of my surroundings -- just like we do in the USA (if we have the brains that god gave a bug)

dyna mo

UK tried to ban Trump simply because you don't like something he said, all while you sell out your heritage to interlopers.

fuck UK.

And heads up dingdong op, Kerry echoed trumps caution.

notjoe

Europe is already well on it's way to becoming blast central. In addition to that, look at the statistics of the rape going on due to the migrates moving in. Europe is finished...Well, Western Europe anyways. Eastern Europe seems to avoid taking in those migrants...and guess what...its working. No attacks yet!

Matt-ADX

Misleading graph. Please give me source, there obviously is something specific to this graph. It's lacking all African countries which lead in murder per capita, lacking Brazil, So this is really something you picked to make an argument that isn't valid.

EngineCash

Well, this list is pretty accurate, but it was made in 2014... Because of recent events, I think the things have changed a bit...

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Matt-ADX

How is it accurate? This graph has no citation. I can make up things as well.

L-Pink

Thread started by past winner of GFY Troll Of The Year award, nuff said.

The Porn Nerd

GUNS.

There's your answer. Hardly any personal weapons in Europe, here in the US everyone got's a gat. Shit, even the police in Europe do not have guns! Good luck stopping bad guys with sticks. LOL

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Grapesoda

if euro is so fucking awesome why did you assholes come over here?

Grapesoda

stop it. we both know if you pull black on black murder/gun violence from the US stats the US murder stats the rate drops down Switzerland

pimpmaster9000

been-nowhere-know-nothing american LOL

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Trump is right - America is not a safe place.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...nd-terrorism-/

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Bryan G

Someone said something similar in another thread. So Americans have guns, just excatly how would you have stopped what happened in Brussels? These were suicide bombers you would have had no clue they were about to blow themselves up.

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Nitzer Ebb

Get rid of dirty brown scum and everything will be back to normal.

Scott McD

I just turned on the news.

White House, U.S. Capitol on lockdown. Lol

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Fail. I've been to 24 countries (and counting) around the world. Apparently the only place YOU have been is anywhere but Serbia.

I wasn't speaking directly about the Brussels attacks. Of course there's no defense against a suicidal Muslim idiot blowing himself up. But in GENERAL most people in Europe do not have handguns while in America we have millions of guns.

(And I have been on record as to how I would handle the Muslim refugee rape crises happening in Europe. All you need is a machete, a video camera and a couple Muslim men. Problem solved.)

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Horatio Caine

I think when you said "Europe" he some how confused Serbia to be part of what you were talking about. Next time clarify that its "civilized parts of Europe". Not the armpits of it.

Penny24Seven

Another brain dead thread by Paul. He is talking about all the bombings and how easy it is to get from one place to another and kill people.
You KEEP going back to your favorite place for stats (Chicago) So pretty much if you want to enjoy the gold ole USA all you have to do is avoid a couple small areas in Chicago and you are fine.
Yeah I agree those areas in Chicago are fucked up as is a small area in Miami that I know of. Unless you try to go there odds are you will not take a wrong turn and end up there LOL. Fucking Troll of the year

Yeah I know about LA and other spots but you get it

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NatalieK

Trump reckons he can kill any Merican & he'd still be in vote for presidency. He should be banned from everywhere

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dyna mo

that makes a lot of sense coming from a porn slinger. ban someone because you don't like what he says.

good thing sharia law is coming to your neighborhood, you'll fit right in.

The Porn Nerd

LOL

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Penny24Seven

Exactly but he ignores that, these stats don't mean shit about traveling here.
You think everyone here is walking around using guns to open a beer and having draws in the street over a girl and sleeping with a gun under the pillow because odds are the police will be busting your door down LOL.
Paul watches TV and all these drama police shows that are so far from reality yet he believes everything he sees and plays in his garden thanking God he doesn't live here LOL.

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Paul Markham

That's only the UK.

The "Arm everyone" solution to reducing crime is batshit crazy. Especially when it comes to terrorism. Imagine how many more murders there would be if any person with a grudge can walk into a gun shop and buy as many guns as he can afford. Just for the odd occasion that people who want to be killed, get stopped before they do any killing.

At the moment, it's hard to get guns unless you know criminals who can get them for you. Maling them available to the general public escalates crime.

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Paul Markham

Then come to Europe and avoid all the Cities, schools, workplaces, malls. And everywhere where poor people might be. Because as Grapesoda point out they do the most killing.

These sort of replies are from the brain dead.

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Paul Markham

Which is why we have such a low level of gun crime. Imagine how bad it would be if everyone over 18 could walk into a gun store? A machete wouldn't do the job, the Muslim men are all armed.

Another blinkered short sighted solution.

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Paul Markham

Because someone who has a grudge, has a gun. In the UK he would only be armed with a knife.

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This says it all.

The answer is dumbnuts led by the nose by some of the media and NRA.

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Paul Markham

The first one I found, you're welcome to find others.



20 gun deaths per 100,000. Excluding Black gun deaths on all races. Over 3 years.

Firearm-related death rate per 100,000 population. By years.

UK 0.23 (2011)
US 10.54 (2014)

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central/eastern europe is terrorism-free. all you have to fear is pickpockets or drunk brits

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pimpmaster9000

and that did not stand in the way of you making a completely stupid statement...your country is a joke, europeans do not feel safe in the USA, you are gangland central, 3rd world people do not feel safe in the USA

things americans should not open their mouths about: war, crime, healthcare, education, foreign policy, fruit, corruption, elections, violence...

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Mr. Garibaldi

so estonia is by far the most violent country of all ex USSR. had no idea..

Barry-xlovecam

Don't be found in high crime areas in the USA and you likelihood of being threatened with a firearm by a stranger is very small.

One psycho preacher with a arrest record for public disorder preaching that god told will never be me to ____ gets a handgun into the White House; doesn't give it up and gets shot in a New York second.

Three terrorists suicide bomb the airport in Brussels, guarded by armed police (para military -- ever been in an airport in Europe these days -- I have ;) ) and murder 70+ people -- good work. Good security.

Collecting all the guns in the USA and disarming the people is like all the nuclear bombs being decommissioned and destroyed in the world -- never going to happen

Dwelling on it is pointless.

SekobA

Europe is not the place to visit, all big cities can be hit by the terrorists

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"This article relies largely or entirely upon a single source. Relevant discussion may be found on the talk page. Please help improve this article by introducing citations to additional sources. (January 2015)"

That page is pretty inaccurate or so I have heard.

Paul Markham

April 19, 1995: Oklahoma City bombing ? Timothy McVeigh parks a truck bomb in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City which explodes killing 168 people, including 19 children. McVeigh and Terry Nichols are convicted in the bombing, motivated by their outrage over the FBI's handling of the Waco Siege.

Where were all the armed people to stop him?

US airports check luggage before it enters the building. But not vans dropping people off.

don't be found in Big European Cities that might be hit like London, Paris, Brussels or any other capital that has pissed off Muslims. And you're a lot safer than being in the US. your likelihood of meeting anyone with a gun is practically zero.

Agree about taking penis replacements away from Americans. Even limiting the power is a thankless task. The NRA won't allow it.

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Horatio Caine

Oh my, the armpit of europe, the trash can of european civilization is making a point for all Europeans. Nigga, please. You are as much "European" as I'm native Samoan 2 weeks ago I was passing through Orlando International and it was packed with Europeans. Lufthansa. BA, Air France, TAM (brazil)... Even Iceland Air was parked on the runway for God sake. Had great time talking to Brits about Foxes and soccer, Dutch had a drink with us, Germans. No, I did see any Slobodan Air parked and didn't hear any Serbian. After all one day ticket to Disney would cost 1/2 of your monthly income. And this goes for any good sized airport in the US. Fucking Charlotte North Carolina takes in more overseas flights that entire shithole serbia
Here are things Serbians should be opening their mouths about. The rest should be left for civilized world to discuss.
Prostitution, high unemployment, shitty soccer fans, and prostitution for frequent visiting clients. Thats it.