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WTF is wrong with domain owners?
You don't see this delusional personality in any other industry, you don't see the owners of residential or commercial properties setting ask prices that are pure fantasy. 'I saw the For Sale sign on the lawn, it's a lovely home, what are you asking for it?' '3 Billion dollars' 'The house next door sold for $600,000, I'll offer you $700,000.' '3 Billion dollars'
Or you're driving down a highway and you're hungry, finally a burger joint ahead, you walk in. 'Why don't you have prices for your food?' 'Make me an offer' 'Ok, how much for a cheeseburger, larger order of fries and a Coke?' '900 dollars' '900 FUCKING DOLLARS FOR A CHEESEBURGER AND FRIES?!?!' 'Yes, you are the one who wants a cheeseburger and fries my friend'
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If someone wants the domain bad enough and can afford it they will pay. At the end of the day the domain holder holds the cards.
Say you were driving down the freeway, you hadn't eaten in a week as all humanity had been wiped out due to freak solar storms. Every shop has been looted and there is no food anywhere. People are killing stray dogs just to survive but then you see lights and as you draw closer you see people sat inside a burger joint, eating fries and burgers. You start to drool involuntarily hardly believing your eyes. As you get closer you notice snipers on the roof, machine guns fitted to the walls. This place is hardcore. You manage to walk inside without getting shot. The lady behind the counter asks what'll it be. "a burger and fries" you ask..." "900 bucks" she says.. So now what you going to do? |
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They are just burned out. I am included in that boat, I get 15-20 offers a day and most people are complete time wasters or jokers.
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it takes patience and luck for a buyer and seller to meet at some reasonable price when it comes to domain sales, been there done that on both sides as a buyer and as a seller.
been in situations like described in the 1st post as a buyer. |
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"$1000 if you can add a milkshake"...
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OK fine I'll sell you the 3 billion dollar domain for 1 billion and a MCD Happy Meal ok?
God you didn't have to make a big deal about it. I'll work with you on a fair price ![]()
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It does seem some domain owners live in lala land but it's not exclusive. I'm actually trying to buy a house from a guy that's selling it himself I presume because no realtor would list it for what he wants.
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If so then I'm in. Can I make $9k from the $900 burger and fries that I order? If so then I'm in. How much do you plan to make from this domain?
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Some suffer from Delusional Domain Disorder....
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look here https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...alsex-com.html Do you honestly believe that anybody in the next 10 years is going to pay $400,000 for cum.com or $225,000 for teenporn.com or $15,000 for ebonyfuck.com?
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Actually... McDonald-products are so long preservable that you can actually buy them as long term investment...
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I don't think "delusional" is really the right word. There's no liquid market in domain names, there's nothing like the comparables that are used to value real estate, there's really no objective way to value the fuckers at all. The value is all in the use to which the domain will be put, and the seller can only guess wildly at what that use might be. So really, sellers are pulling numbers out of ass, because that's the only place to get 'em.
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If you don't really really really want the domain then why complain about the cost? I don't care if ButtFuckaJackalinTheCongoJungle.co.uk cost $40 million. I'll laugh about it; not complain about it.
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All you can do is offer the top dollar you would pay for it and then walk away.. Then 4 mos from now the guy will see he can't sell it for 10 mill and will hit you up and hopefully you will tell him to gfy that you already bought another domain for that project. ![]()
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Domain sellers are nuts but so are the buyers: "I am helping my daughter with a class project and having your domain will help her greatly. I was wondering if you would sell it to her for $25".
I swear I have had 10 scammy offers similar to that one in the last decade. ![]() |
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Domains are unique so once sold it's sold and ya can't create another one so most try to capitalize on the sales. I'll admit I've turned X domains into XXXX more than a few times since 2003 just by shooting my price and not giving a fuck if it sells as don't need the money so have the patience for the right buyer and busy with website maintenance.
On the flipside since unique with no blueprint to follow you could hand the same domain to 100 people to price and you would have price points all across the board. Some sell undervalue, some sell fair and others are dreamers. Best ya can do is shoot your best offer and if a no maybe time without a sale will get them to readjust their pricing strategy if they are unrealistic. |
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I hear yah... I wanted ilikepoo.com for fucking years but he wouldn't sell. Eventually I caved in, paid a small fortune and got the domain, but he certainly made out like a bandit
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everything's worth only as much as anyone's going to pay for it
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Fucking capitalist pigs. How dare they buy and ask such outrageous prices in a free market!
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i think often the worst people are those who only own one or two domains. they tend to ask for a lot more than its worth. however there are a ton of people who want something for nothing. as someone who also owns a shit ton of domains i field inquiries daily and 98% are pathetic.
there is really no way to win. the guy who only owns a few domains doesn't need the money so they hold out. the guy who owns tons of domains will just sell another domain to someone else if he doesn't sell a certain one to you to keep the money flowing.
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You pay $12 - $16 a years for 10 years and have $150.00+- invested. Your asking price is in the $1,000 - $40,000 range. It's pure speculation.
That's why ICANN is approving new gTLDs to free up the namespace with new TLD strings. To many names have been held in speculation and never developed. A lot of these .com names that have been long held is speculation for years will become commoditized and worth little if the name dilution of the new gTLDs becomes a reality. Google's subsidary; Charleston Road Registry Inc., has applied for 102 new gTLDs https://gtldresult.icann.org/applica...tus/viewstatus type 'google' in the little box ![]() Know when to hold, know when to fold, and know when to run ![]() |
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not sure about adult domain names, but in mainstream $$ is irrelevant, if someone likes the domain they'll pay what you may think as ridiculous amounts...
I've seen people sell domains that I wouldn't pay $500 for, for $50k... and that's because that $50k is 1% of the buyer's marketing budget, so it's pretty much irrelevant if they pay $5k for the domain or $50k...
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Literally everything is for sale if the offer is good enough. So, why not list it in case some dumbass wants to pay the "jack and jerk" price, as car salesmen refer to their first offer to walk in customers who ask: "how much for that one there"?
"Buy low, Sell high" is used by motivated sellers, and it works. I love my business, I love running it and it earns me money. It's not technically for sale and I value it based on my perception of it's potential income which is far from reality but something I have been and continue to be working towards. So there is a huge investment in terms of my own time and contractors time, as well as frustration, planning, disappointment, none of which have much, if any value to any potential buyer, but they have plenty of value to me. So since my shit technically isn't for sale, any potential buyer will be asked to pay my price for all of it, and likely say no, but whatever. It's not for sale anyway - but if they want to pay that price, well fine. All my mistakes and the lessons learned from them can be applied to my next project just as easily.
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No, you're not "in" shit for brains because you don't have billions of dollars and probably not 900 dollars either.
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I'm sure that's part of it but you can't ask 20% more then any house that ever sold in the neighborhood when it needs some work, market is down, and no bank would give anyone a mortgage and expect a realtor to list it.
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Sounds like your offer for 40 bucks was turned down and you do not want to pay the 50 bucks that they wanted.
99% of people that contact me over domains waste my time with offers that are so for from being anything even close to real that I thought at first it was a joke but when it has happened 500 times I now know they are just hoping I am going to die tomorrow and maybe just maybe I will want to give it away based on their sob story. I only bought 8 domain names when I first remember being able to buy them. 20 years later I still have 2 left. I want 9 billion for them ![]()
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Telling me what you think my domain is worth is like telling me what you think my girlfriend is worth. Besides that, I tried many domain names before I found the one I wanted available. Does my effort to get the domain count and can I add value for that? After all; where were you when I bought the domain? Surfing the beach, eating a burger or spending all day like me at the register striking out until I found a name? I did the work to get the name, I would like to charge for that time. If you spent a week trying names until you found a "good one"; would you then say it's only worth the reg fee just weeks later? Nope, you wouldn't. Maybe after you've held it for a while and not produced anything with it and you really don't need it anymore; then reg fee.
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i disagree. many of these new gtlds have no more than a few thousand domain registered and its only going to get worse. the only thing propping them up is ultra cheap prices (1 buck or under for a number of them) and the chinese buying up a bunch of them which they will no doubt drop eventually. i dropped the few new gtlds i had and have made more money selling .com's in 2015 than ever.
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The drop I've seen is with mainly premium adult names. Guys that in years past turned down large offers now trying to sell for half.
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I agree, but comparing sellers of domains and real property that don't know how to properly value their asset is. Many people put personal value on things that have nothing to do with real value. Domain owners who want a extra $5k because it was their 1st domain, or the guy selling his car that he lost his virginity in so wants $10k more, etc.
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https://www.carsforsale.com/1965-for...-sale-C1054436 You would need to develop your own personal value towards these cars to even try it. Plenty of brand new cars sell for less. You would have a better point if everybody paid what estibot says; but nobody does. They all claim estibot is not accurate. So who is accurate? I have two domains for sale and nobody has offered what estibot says.
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Bottom line : The buyer that didn't get the domain is the one who is unhappy about it.
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Supply and demand.
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I sit back and wonder if I undersold? And then I think the check clearing the bank will be way better then holding out for expected gains. Offer the dude cash and watch your arm get ripped off! |
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If a seller outprices himself all the time. He goes broke and out of the business.
However, I've met a lot or people who thought I should shoot sets for $300, that were worth $4,000 to me. I suspect this is one of those situations. |
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Let's take for example the phrase I LOVE YOU! ILoveYou.com is your goal. That guy will want the big bucks. Then there is the guy next door who has iluvu.com and then next door to him is i-love-you.com. Sure they are all in the same neighborhood but in the end, one is clearly the kind and if you want to get it, you are going to have to shell out the big bucks.
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Tell us the method to use to determine a fair and reasonable price for a domain.
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