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Old 08-08-2016, 12:08 PM   #1
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Old 08-08-2016, 12:22 PM   #5
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Old 08-08-2016, 02:22 PM   #6
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Old 08-08-2016, 03:01 PM   #7
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So wow when this self driving vehicle thing happens for real a whole lot of states going to get fucked
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So wow when this self driving vehicle thing happens for real a whole lot of states going to get fucked
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Old 08-08-2016, 05:38 PM   #9
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It will be a wash. All the trucks (many?) will have to be retrofitted or replaced. Also, trucks will not travel unattended (*I hope).
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Old 08-08-2016, 07:19 PM   #10
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So what are all the truckers gonna do when all the trucks are driverless?
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Old 08-08-2016, 07:21 PM   #11
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It will be a wash. All the trucks (many?) will have to be retrofitted or replaced. Also, trucks will not travel unattended (*I hope).
Trucks are not used for long, as a trucker most places won't let you carry loads if your truck is more than a few years old.

Entire fleets could be swapped to driverless in under 10 years if not 5 years.
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Old 08-08-2016, 07:28 PM   #12
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Trucks are not used for long, as a trucker most places won't let you carry loads if your truck is more than a few years old.

Entire fleets could be swapped to driverless in under 10 years if not 5 years.
Where do you get that info?

A friend of mine's dad worked for a major trucking company and he had the same truck for about 15 years. Another person I know works for himself as an owner/driver and his truck is about 15 years old at least.

They might rebuild motors and transmissions, but my understanding is the truck isn't replaced that often.

That said, I think we will eventually see automated semi's take over the industry, but I don't think it will get serious for another 15-20 years.
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I know plenty of kids with 60-100k+ of college debt that aren't applying themselves and working $12-$16 hour office jobs with college degrees.

I know plenty of truckers that spent 0-3000 on school and started at $15-$20+ an hour with tons of overtime and no college debt.
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Where do you get that info?

A friend of mine's dad worked for a major trucking company and he had the same truck for about 15 years. Another person I know works for himself as an owner/driver and his truck is about 15 years old at least.

They might rebuild motors and transmissions, but my understanding is the truck isn't replaced that often.

That said, I think we will eventually see automated semi's take over the industry, but I don't think it will get serious for another 15-20 years.
I'm not saying it will happen in 5-10 years, I'm saying once there is a proven system ready to go it will replace drivers over the course of 5 to 10 years.

My thought, is it will start like a train system. Driverless trucks will do the over the road trucking and drop off and pick up at localized shipment yards. Actual drivers will then do the local driving to the final destination.

As far as 5 and 10 year old trucks, I'm talking mostly big fleet trucks but the lowered savings on insurance will squeeze out the little guys.

As insurance premiums go down for driverless trucks they will go up for trucks with drivers as insurance companies have less and less of a pool to cover the losses. The same will happen to normal drivers as well.

It will get too expensive to drive yourself because of the cost of insurance.
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I'm not saying it will happen in 5-10 years, I'm saying once there is a proven system ready to go it will replace drivers over the course of 5 to 10 years.

My thought, is it will start like a train system. Driverless trucks will do the over the road trucking and drop off and pick up at localized shipment yards. Actual drivers will then do the local driving to the final destination.

As far as 5 and 10 year old trucks, I'm talking mostly big fleet trucks but the lowered savings on insurance will squeeze out the little guys.

As insurance premiums go down for driverless trucks they will go up for trucks with drivers as insurance companies have less and less of a pool to cover the losses. The same will happen to normal drivers as well.

It will get too expensive to drive yourself because of the cost of insurance.
I agree. It will be phased in over a number of years. If I were a 40 year old trucker today I wouldn't worry about losing my job to auto-driving trucks, but I think in 20-30 years that map will look a lot different and there will likely not be nearly as many trucking jobs.
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I'm not saying it will happen in 5-10 years, I'm saying once there is a proven system ready to go it will replace drivers over the course of 5 to 10 years.

My thought, is it will start like a train system. Driverless trucks will do the over the road trucking and drop off and pick up at localized shipment yards. Actual drives will then do the local driving to the final destination.

As far as 5 and 10 year old trucks, I'm talking mostly big fleet trucks but the lowered savings on insurance will squeeze out the little guys.

As insurance premiums go down for driverless trucks they will go up for trucks with drives as insurance companies have less and less of a pool to cover the losses. The same will happen to normal drivers as well.

It will get too expensive to drive yourself because of the cost of insurance.









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Old 08-08-2016, 08:05 PM   #17
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I agree. It will be phased in over a number of years. If I were a 40 year old trucker today I wouldn't worry about losing my job to auto-driving trucks, but I think in 20-30 years that map will look a lot different and there will likely not be nearly as many trucking jobs.
No 40 and maybe even 30 yo truckers will get squeezed out toward the end, but anyone younger will have a short career.
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Huh. Hoe accurate is this..? i guess I'm most surprised by California being a truck driver state as well
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What's with all the truck drivers? Truck drivers dominate the map for a few reasons.
  • Driving a truck has been immune to two of the biggest trends affecting U.S. jobs: globalization and automation. A worker in China can't drive a truck in Ohio, and machines can't drive cars (yet).
  • Regional specialization has declined. So jobs that are needed everywhere ? like truck drivers and schoolteachers ? have moved up the list of most-common jobs.
  • The prominence of truck drivers is partly due to the way the government categorizes jobs. It lumps together all truck drivers and delivery people, creating a very large category. Other jobs are split more finely; for example, primary school teachers and secondary school teachers are in separate categories.
Long haul will change and local delivery may become more computer assisted.

If we had a public works program to build lanes with barrier walls for long haul trucks on the Interstate road system we would accomplish creating new job and training opportunities. Along with that work we could build out a 100G fiber Internet underground backbone -- carriers could lease lines from the new Department of Communications and build out their own networks trunking to these lines.
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Its not just trucking... when driverless and not owning cars become a reality. Think of the industries that will collapse....
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