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92% of Americans prefer Sweden's "socialistic" economic system
![]() ..."participants were shown three unlabeled pie charts meant to depict possible wealth distributions: one that was totally equal; one based on Sweden?s income distribution, which is highly egalitarian; and one based on the U.S. wealth distribution, which is wildly skewed toward the rich. (They used Swedish income data as a model, rather than wealth, to strike a ?clearer contrast? with the United States.)* Then, the subjects were told to pick where they would like to live, assuming they would be randomly assigned to a spot on the economic ladder. With their imaginary fate up to chance, 92 percent of Americans opted for Sweden?s pie chart over the United States." Americans have no idea how bad inequality is: New Harvard Business School study.
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shocker! the bottom wants more than they're willing to work for
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I also heard that 99% of kids prefer candy to brussel sprouts.
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Wehateporn = paid Russian poster. All he does is post anti west/US propaganda.
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"Harvard Business School study"
![]() no shit that everyone wants more... kinda ironic though that when "rich" want to earn more it's called "greed"... but it's completely acceptable when everyone else wants more, without even earning it by forcing the "rich" to "share"... ![]()
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That's why the rich Swedes move to Spain, and just visit Sweden.
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According to you poll -- where workers think wages are fairest:
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"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" Louis Blanc, then Karl Marx
It sounds good until you try to put it into practice. Then when you do, 50 million starve to death and 20 million are executed. Socialism looks good on paper, but it doesn't take human nature into account. Sweden, a small homogeneous population, may last longer under that model, but no socialist republic has lasted 100 years. Sweden has not even declared itself "socialist", the ruling party has been the Swedish Social Democratic Party for most of the time since 1945. So they're like a laid back church or a workplace with casual clothes; doesn't matter, in the end it doesn't last. |
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Why aren't China, India and Russia in that poll?
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China has one of the lowest GDP per capita in the world, along with one of the highest income inequality....so yea, working great... for the elite...
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The irony is that the technology innovated from capitalist countries will create a better world where everybody's basic needs will be met. There is no doubt we are heading towards a society where there aren't jobs for many in society and they'll be paid a guaranteed income.
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I have good news and bad news for you:
The good news is your are getting a basic income allowance of $400 per working person per month. The bad news is your new job is on a collective farm as a farm laborer. If you work you eat if not try and get by on $400 a month -- no food stamps no obamaphone. You get free healthcare (to the limits of the new farm labor department -- worker services division,) but only if you work or are disabled (really) or elderly. Welcome to your new Section 9 Farm Labor Housing -- rent is free. ![]() |
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If current trends continue people like 12clicks will be broke. Migrants will be fixing any roofs of the people with enough money.
Most here will be broke as Third World workers on very low wages do their jobs. What do you do that a Third World worker can't do cheaper for a company that's owned by the 1%? That's what Globalisation means. |
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I'd lik 2 immigrate to Pooland
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![]() do you realize that 80% of the world population makes less than $5k/year? How do you feel about those people? what policies should we enact to solve that injustice? Simplest solution is to just tax the world's top 20%, which would include you, additional 10-20% and transfer that wealth to the poor? Would you be in favor of that?
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You might be in the same boat, our children won't be. Their jobs will be done in the Third World even if they're high skilled. Or by machine. There's no point in spending extra money to educate them because there won't be jobs enough. Those that there are will go to the children of the 1%, not children of roofers. Speaking of roofs, how many will go for you or for a migrant worker, or even be able to afford to have a house? We're not there yet, but look further than your ass to see where it's heading. As for the market to buy imported goods. China will do fine for the 1%. Go back 150 years to see a parallel. |
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As for taxing the top 20%, why do you think the top 1% make sure they own Governments? 50 years ago if you, or anyone reading this, bought something. It was odds on it was made in that country, the seller was a business owned by someone who worked at that place. Or at the Head Office in that country. Today the odds of anyone here buying something made in the West, from a company owned by anyone they could talk to is a memory. China builds for Boeing, has a Space Program and show no signs of slowing down their erosion of our economies. Try getting ahead when they're finished. |
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When a major industry is casinos gambling with other people's money and invisible money. you know something's got to change. They were selling 100% mortgages for 200%. How fucked up was that? Now factor in the mortgage was to a guy who couldn't pay the original 100%. The stupidest thing is people like 12clicks think they can take responsibility for their lives. They fail to realise they rely on everyone else getting a wage. Go visit places where very few get a decent wage. They're growing. |
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I need to slow cook more. Perhaps over the winter. Email sent!
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Poland overtakes India as country of origin, UK migration statistics show - BBC News
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Can you reply with a sensible reply that shows why our children will have the same opportunities you and I had or more insults? I'm not on your ladder, not on the roof. I'm in the garden sunbathing. Watching you work. |
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Of course people like it. It is what this country will have within the next 30-40 years.
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The future, if we carry on as we are, is a small percentage of those in work having good to well-paying jobs and the rest relying on low-wage jobs or Social Security. Will those in good to well-paying jobs be prepared to pay 60% of their income to support the rest of their countrymen? Tax v GDPUSA 26.9 This is why their debt is out of control. Add to that GDP per capita. Date Value$$22,237 per person. Now factor in inflation and who is really earning an increased wage. ![]() Trump is tapping into this in a big way. The stupidest part of his campaign is Blacks and Mexicans are for Clinton and against Trump. Because he's too stupid to realise these are his biggest chance of winning. Or he's clever enough to know it and wants to loose. ![]() People like 12clicks are too stupid to get it, in 40-50 years unless jobs come back to the West, there will be civil wars or he will be paid by the State to keep him fed. Because the opportunities he had, won't be there. He must be a Clinton supporter. ![]() Anyone who thinks billionaires are buying politicians to change the system is too stupid to put an X on a piece of paper. |
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Look up "fiction". The Constitution of the People's Republic of China was created in 1954!
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World's first self-driving taxis officially hit the road - CBS News
Some commercial drivers are going to be first on the 'hit list' -- taxi drivers and long haul truck drivers ![]() Low skilled and low cost factory assembly labor in Asia is next on the list. Domestic labor is too expensive in the USA and a good part of Western Europe. High value goods that are manufactured in the USA and Western Europe will increasingly be made, where possible, with robotic automation. You don't need to pay robots mandated workers insurances and benefits -- these costs can cost an additional 40% - 60% on top of the cost of wages. Lower cost will translate to both lower cost consumer products and better corporate profits that go to shareholders as well as higher competitive wages for the jobs that remain. Buggy whip makers are out of work. The blacksmiths in the first and second worlds are gone. The stablemen are no longer needed. The are 1/3 the number of auto assemblers with left with work. If you do not have a needed skill in the workforce you are just not needed. If the cry was for a new tax to pay for vocational education to train or retrain workers -- this might be acceptable. We still need tradesmen, repairmen and technicians if you don't have what it takes to learn a professional skill or manage a business. Life will be pretty grim for the displaced masses who can only offer low skilled labor -- but that is not my fault;
I may have to pay for their very minimal existence -- as minimal as needed to keep them in barracks to be used as cheap labor for their subsistence if they want to consider themselves worthy to participate in society. $400/mo, a bunk in a barracks, work to better themselves of this will be their lot in life. I have had to acquire new job skills ever 4 times in my 40 years of working -- I kept myself competitive. There are not many jobs left with 30 and out and you get a good pension. Life is a bitch then you die, and usually not with much dignity these days -- that's just the fuckin' way it it -- so man up and deal with it. No, I don't have any silly charts to try to prop up a unworkable (pun intended) position. No one owes me a lifestyle. Those marginal workers are not my customers and the majority of my customers will benefit financially from increasing automation and expanding robotics. They will make more money to spend. They will have more disposable income they can use buying cam shows -- one of the few jobs left that does not require a technical degree -- the world keeps turning -- life goes on ![]() |
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Population control should be voluntary option. Problem is only the intelligent consider it
![]() Revolutions happen when revolutions happen. That is an empty threat. People work harder for two fish heads in their rice bowl instead of one. Why should I pay an extra $5K ($20K?) a year in taxes to support you and your children in relative comfort? I don't want the government to guarantee your income by capping mine with taxation -- that us utterly ludicrous. The result is the $15 Big Mac in New York City -- lolz. Who the fuck do you think will pay for this? Just repeal money. Then there is no currency and you are only worth what you can make or do. In 10 years we will be a scavenger society in 200 years back in the stone age. |
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uber will make money with the driverles taxis, but the millions that will be out of work spend money on some companies products where some high skilled worker works and buys your cam shows with the money he earns...uber driverless will cost YOU money, make no mistake about this... those millions of drivers that will be out of a job would buy millions of shirts, cars, toys, lawnmowers, hairdryers, bagels, coffees, laptops, cellphones ect...those sales will be no more...on the other hand the guys at uber and their shareholders will not buy millions of cars, shirts ect but will probably buy much much less... there is no scenario where this does not cost the high skilled workers still with jobs...low skill workers are much of the high skilled workers market... the war against human jobs is being fought on 3 fronts at the same time: -amazon and wallmart vs all small shops and affiliates -robot workers and autopilot vehicles -AI as a service |
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