Marshal

There's a very few people that you can really do business with. Now it is only a bunch of self-centered idiots who have no clue about anything. Unresponsive, irresponsible, careless.

What happened with the good old time of adult business when it was so easy to do communicate and do business? Where have all these wonderful guys gone?

Does this mean adult has become more mainstream? The situation as it is now reminds me of the Wild West.

Greetings to all the normal guys out there that withstand the test of time!

Mediamix

You mad bro?

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clickhappy

Most people aren't making nearly the same money today as 10 years ago so many of the serious people left.

CaptainHowdy

How dare you talk to me like that!

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LOL where have you been all this time?

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BJ

In my honest opinion:

People that display angst, frustration, or otherwise push their own disabilities on others, have personal problems.

Spunky

Greed..plain and simple. To quote Pink Floyd don't take a piece of my pie

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Marshal

Yes, I am. I was trying to accomplish a very simple task, that somehow turned into a real adventure: to get access to promo content of an affiliate program. I was considering them being an important company not to be neglected.

It ends up as wasting of 8+ hours on "negotiating" all kind of impossible requests that were brought up and changed every couple of minutes. This took time over a span of couple of weeks. And guess what? I ended up with just a tiny bits of promo content, which was almost unusable, by the way. Now I'm pissed off by myself and my tolerance, instead of telling them to fuck off, within the first couple of minutes of our first conversation.

Was just being straight honest and not trying to troll anybody. Kudos to all the smart and hard working guys out there! They have my respect!

The Porn Nerd

Nice, but in this case I would also go with "I have become, comfortably numb".

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BJ

Plenty are still around

Marshal

You are completely straight to the point!

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Agreed. To be fair though to the OP, I too have noticed some otherwise excessive demands out of a couple of very specific programs (same ownership, separate programs). My guess is they simply want to try and lessen their affiliate footprint and focus on a few specific affiliates, or types of affiliates. Their site, their program, their business, you know?

I'm sure it negatively impacts some people. Others will just go elsewhere. Ultimately, people can waste their time chasing around programs and trying to convince them to work with you, and give you what you need, or you can just work with those that actually want to work with you and not waste your time. Indeed, time is money.

Frankly, and I've said this for a few years now, if people are not already promoting CherryPimps, and they have pornstar traffic, then they are leaving money on the table. Cherry Pimps, in my opinion, is the absolute best program in adult right now for pornstar traffic.

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BJ

Eat my big fat cock, you are one of them. Frankly, Eat my big fat cock.

robwod

Huh? One of whom?

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hdbuilder

Yeah I also believe its because plenty of serious people left the industry and went to mainstream

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BJ

Built a skyscraper or 4 ... those are the good guys. Nothing illegal about what they did. Old school Nuggas .

Marshal

Could not agree more. We are talking about the same thing here. It is fair to say: "listen, we want to work with such and such types of business", instead of wasting their time.

Don't want somebody onboard - just be straight forward and say it. Your business, your rules. So, yes, you are right.

To be honest, I have never had to ask for any help with Cherry Pimps, since everything is already there, in the affiliate area. I had some nice results with them, so I can recommend their affiliate program.

What I've also noticed is that there is some fresh blood lately, some very smart guys entering this business from mainstream. Usually one man operation. And it's a real pleasure talking to them.

incredibleworkethic

There still are some really good people here .

robwod

Agreed 100%. There's about a handful of programs that have people you can deal with directly, including the owner, which is always nice. It just gets to be a time waster when you have to chase down payments, chase down links, chase down 404 and redirects, chase down access info and/or promotional tools, etc. In the end, it's just a lot less frustrating when you deal within a handful of programs and a handful of trusted people with whom you've done business for some time. You just get a whole lot more accomplished in a fraction of the time.

Insofar as the one program, I'll almost bet that you and I are talking about the same program(s)

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brassmonkey

epass killed more than half of the biz. who can beat 50 cent transfers?? i lost close to a grand had a friend lose 27 grand that being said. i rather do my biz through email like i switched to. less stress and stalkers. been fuking around 2 day making beer and wine for the holidays. did some email deals today. working on mainstream shit. about to blaze a blunt and watch a movie b4 dinner

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BJ

Village idiot.

You do realize there are people earning millions a day right?

MyPornoMovie

I wish I could tell you but it certainly isn't what it used to be.
Something is definitely wrong.

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You are what's wrong.

Sig whore.

MyPornoMovie

Yeah perhaps you are right.
There is always one asshole somewhere right

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brassmonkey

you shooting cookies again. What's wrong with people in Adult?! u are confused dogg. learn to understand topics

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clickhappy

Huh? Who?
Who are these imaginary people earning millions a day in porn?

I remember a post from a well known program owner looking for someone who could send 100 joins a day and couldnt find anyone to do it anymore like in the old days.

mineistaken

Epass killed more than half of the biz? You are fucking delusional, surely people were hit, but "killed more than half of the biz"

Rochard

I put up the pictures from TES on YNOT Shoot Me earlier today, and I was thinking about how much everything has changed. Everyone was all dressed up taking limos to expensive party with great entertainment.

My very first ten minutes at my very first show a lesbian threesome broke out right in front me - taking off their clothes and strapping on dildos and fucking each other.

Sixteen years ago one of the big programs would rent a suite in Vegas, free booze, models, we would wear jeans and t-shirts. We all knew each other's names - RAM was fucking Kitty 69 in the tub while Aaron Matthews was taking pictures. We would drink until we got so fucked up and we would have office chair races in the hallways.

Who remembers the party goat? And who remembers the puff puff pass parties? (Ironically asked by the man who doesn't partake.)

YP Mexico was the best. We would all go down to Mexico and slum it for three or four days. No work - they didn't have Internet there (no cell phone service either) - and we would party all night and do sightseeing during the day. There was the Tucker House Of Love and Virtual Mike would entertain us with his guitar until the sun came up, and there was many more people than there was beds so most of us slept on the floor. Who can forget Mini Kiss and Uncle Willy in his cheerleader outfit?

Now we have adult companies going Affiliate Summit - a purely mainstream show.

I remember going to a show and meeting someone who tripled sales to our program. I miss the days when we all knew each other, and we all sent each other traffic....

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Ross

Those days never left, they are just more consolidated. Instead of watching lesbians fuck each other with dildos, you are now in a fancy club together, having some champagne or a nice vodka while a huge name DJ plays some music.

Instead of hallway chair races, you eat a $90 steak at Mastros and drink a martini while talking about how much traffic you wish to sell/exchange/buy.

The make-up of our conferences are very different but the business is there more than it ever has been, there is just such a huge gulf now between the big business deals and the little guys that not many people are actually aware of a lot of what is going on. Business is still about who you know, actually knowing WHO you should know is the challenging aspect of the internet business in 2016.

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lol, yeah. I took this pic last month..

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1. It became legal
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NatalieK

It is very stressful when negotiating & the other party cannot stick to a plan, changing choice & direction. We've been there a few times, spending days planning and then nothing coming over it

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Paul Markham

The problem I had was people making unrealistic proposals that meant us working for less. Then getting upset when we said no. Lost a good friend over it, he wanted us to work for a week looking after his needs. And giving us little in return.

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this

plus there are companies that fly out business partners to various locations for small gatherings inbetween the shows

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