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Or none-paysites? I ask because I've never ever seen a paysite on the first page of google, not in the last 6 years that is. Unless it was different in your niche? And it just now caught up to your niche? So many questions. ![]()
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I got a check from google once then they banned me
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The best quality product doesn't always make the most. I'd rather focus on the marketing and traffic with mediocre content than go upscale. It's all about the margins. WG
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---------- Fully agreed with Paul Markhan, you have to have something people want to consume. Otherwise, they take a brief look at the content and move on. We are producing our own content what Indians are liking but Google did'nt respect that.... Few months back one of our site was banned due to thin content, we have to send model release to google in reconsideration request to show them that this is our content and we are the copyright holder and they lift the penalty..... Google is BIZ killer at the moment and giving their love to content stealers....
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Hope trump victory as president of US put effect on Google and it will become porn lover with quality content
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This isn't about the Internet, it's about marketing and selling. Relying on passing traffic is so yesterday it's unbelievable you still think knowing how to be a good webmaster works. No matter how much traffic a site gets the trick is to convert it into $$$$. To do that you have to have a site that people want to view, then a product they want to buy on a site they want to buy from. How well do Tubes convert? Even though they have massive traffic, most struggle to make money. Ads convert badly. The rise of ad blockers proves people are not interested in seeing those ads. Let alone buying from them. All the sites with high traffic are doing that on return traffic. Saying they do it without creating the content is a bullshit excuse. It doesn't matters, all that matters is the surfers. When you create a site for SE spiders, don't expect people to like it. |
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It's all about skills. If you can't create a site people like, go for something SE spiders like and get yourself downgraded by Google because the surfers don't like your sites.
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It's pretty easy to outrank tubes. It's just not worth the effort :-(
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To combat that people have to go with what people demand and stop bitching and shouting at the clouds. ![]() Oh, how good that feels. It has never been easier to produce quality content, assuming you have the skills. If you're a blogger convert to being a vlogger. Review sites using a video of a good looking girl or guy reviewing a site. Telling people the truth and use the text just to keep spiders noticing you. Then do all the webmaster stuff. Do it right and the people will stop and look, then return. As I said only for those with talent to create content. Of course, a great way for sponsors to create killer content for the affiliates. |
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We have finally find out what is going on.... why site ranking has gone down... why people jealous in business... produce own content and do hard work instead of use illegal ways to kick others out
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^^ I love that nationalistic Indians are pro-Trump
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I left search engines when G arrived (well almost)....
Was sooo much fun when AltaVista/Infoseek/Lycos/Hotbot/Webcrawler was "da thing" lol... Like someone said. Don't put all your eggs into the same basket. |
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I think it's a one-sided crush on the part of Googlebot.
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"SEO" is barely a thing anymore. Google just sends a site a bit of traffic, looks at engagement metrics, and sends more if engagement is good.
So of course tubes and tube aggregators win. If you want to make money off google traffic you need the technical skills to compete with the top tubes and aggregators. If you could start a tubesite and just reupload all of xvideos to it and have a good search engine you would get tons of google traffic! Keep your overhead low and you'd make great money! Anyone could do it! But it would require technical skills that almost no one has. You can't just be a content producer running a paysite and expect to get google traffic. |
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This is 2016 where people like PewDiePie are making millions. There's a right-wing ranter who has a great following telling everyone Hillary will disarm everyone and other bullshit. So what do we do? Harold Stern has interviews with models we have radio interviews with webmasters. ![]() We write text and bitch because no one reads it. You're like these. ![]() Quote:
If I was to film these comments and put them on Youtube, how much more traffic would I get? If I was to get a pretty girl to talk to camera, how much more would she get? The problem is too many of you rely on Google far too much for your traffic and far too little on satisfying the audience. As Google starts to penalise you to make for a better surfer (customer) experience. You will suffer. Of course, my method takes real talent. so those who don't have it. Tell me I'm wrong and not that you're out of date. |
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I would have to say that for the most part things that were good in 2006 are now good again in 2016, only with small twists...
Massive inbound links are good again... But they have to come from good sources and follow a pace without deviating much. Change from 2006? Back then comment spam was a good link and you could add 1000's overnight to be #1 two weeks later. Keep in mind I don't use any generated content other than user generated natural content or content written by humans. I've also used my own PBN since Google shit on my 2006 network in 2009-2012.
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so far at the moment i see that google is bringing high traffic sites to the top. so, you can have site with good so called seo, with good content, active posters, backlinks and so, but if someone is pushing more traffic into his new stupid site, google is giving the site a good serps, instead of the quality site. that is not so intelligent, because the shit will go up and will get even more traffic from google, and then it stays on top ... hope the algo will change very soon ...
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The algo will be adapted to appeal to surfers more than sites. because it's surfers that make google rich. Good content for surfers is the key. |
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You may be right and I wonder if Google puts a lot of trust in sites like Alexa and SimilarWeb that rank sites by traffic?
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I think you are mixing up context in traffic is king, content is queen as it pertains to SEO.
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I am so glad they let paul markham into this place again. I mean, who else makes quality educating posts like his, revealing how to rank shit in google ;)
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My argument is relying on Google too much and retention too little is as outdated as Kodachrome. The future is about entertaining your audience enough to get them coming back. |
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Paul I'm not going to get into an argument with you because it's like arguing with a brick wall. But this thread is about Google. I've no idea what it is you're babbling on about.
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I'm saying content is king, Google traffic is a prince as it pertains to sales. Retained traffic is Queen. No one should be relying on Google for their income. And saying Google is killing your business shows some are. Traffic that changes because of an algorithm or bounces too fast is a waste of time. Build a business that appeals to customers, then build it so outside forces like FB, Twitter, Tumblr, Google and Adblockers can't harm it. |
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Just quoting this for entertainment value
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I.E. A guy unsubscribes from the mailing list back cause he has a girlfriend, or the notification came up when he was on a date, and that email reminded him of his subscrption and he cancelled. 2 weeks later he's single and looking at porn but broke because he spent all his money on the girl. |
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![]() Doesn't mean it should be ignored. No matter how many times you're told about something or get to look at it. Will you buy if it's not that good? And as Google moves towards favoring sites that don't send the surfer straight back. Many here will lose out. |
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i thought the tubes were killing adult? now its googles fault?
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Paul, what if SEO traffic is your bread and butter? And your site is a sales pitch. And people don't want a portal, they want a good deal... Then what?
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What a negative asshole you are
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