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mopek1 · 11-16-2016, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Welcome to my world

WG

So always SEO?

Never trades, blogs/freesites with content for bookmarks, paid, gallery submissions etc...?

WiredGuy · 11-16-2016, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

So always SEO?

Never trades, blogs/freesites with content for bookmarks, paid, gallery submissions etc...?

I do SEM as well and a few other media buys, but organic is the bread and butter.
WG

mopek1 · 11-16-2016, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I do SEM as well and a few other media buys, but organic is the bread and butter.
WG

Good to know. So there's still good money to be made with SEO then.

247mg · 11-17-2016, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

Good to know. So there's still good money to be made with SEO then.

If SEO is your bread and butter then tell us what Google is going to do in future. What is your prediction?

TeenCat · 11-17-2016, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 247mg

If SEO is your bread and butter then tell us what Google is going to do in future. What is your prediction?

he said he is making money with google, not that he is a google programmer

if there exist any google programmer anyway ...

have luck everyone

mopek1 · 11-17-2016, 11:59 AM

Anyone getting traffic from Yahoo?

I used to get a bunch but now mostly get it from Google and Bing.

It's surprising since Mozilla recently added Yahoo to be their default search engine when people open the browser up.

PornDiscounts-V · 11-17-2016, 12:31 PM

I get yahoo, but it's very little in comparison to Google.

matuloo · 11-17-2016, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Agreed.

I'm saying content is king, Google traffic is a prince as it pertains to sales. Retained traffic is Queen.

No one should be relying on Google for their income. And saying Google is killing your business shows some are. Traffic that changes because of an algorithm or bounces too fast is a waste of time. Build a business that appeals to customers, then build it so outside forces like FB, Twitter, Tumblr, Google and Adblockers can't harm it.

How many successful sites have you built lately Paul?

247mg · 11-18-2016, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by vvvvv

I get yahoo, but it's very little in comparison to Google.

90% of internet search traffic is from Google.. rest other different searcg engine distribute between them.

mopek1 · 11-18-2016, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 247mg

90% of internet search traffic is from Google.. rest other different searcg engine distribute between them.

True ... but I was mainly thinking of my comparison between Bing and Yahoo. Lots of Bing traffic but very little yahoo, if any.

topadult · 11-18-2016, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 247mg

90% of internet search traffic is from Google.. rest other different searcg engine distribute between them.

Google owns 70-85% of search traffic.
The rest are of Yahoo, Bing, ...

Google Expert · 11-18-2016, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by matuloo

How many successful sites have you built lately Paul?

I genuinely don't understand how Paul considers himself an expert on EVERYTHING, while only having experience shooting/selling mediocre content 30 years ago.

Paul, what makes you think that you are right about everything and everyone else is wrong?

247mg · 11-19-2016, 01:27 AM

Every one in this industry think other is an asshole and an idot!

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Originally Posted by Google Expert

I genuinely don't understand how Paul considers himself an expert on EVERYTHING, while only having experience shooting/selling mediocre content 30 years ago.

Paul, what makes you think that you are right about everything and everyone else is wrong?

Paul Markham · 11-19-2016, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by matuloo

How many successful sites have you built lately Paul?

Explain to everyone why people's thinking, selling and marketing is different online. Explain why I'm wrong. Not to me but to everyone else.

Paul Markham · 11-19-2016, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Google Expert

I genuinely don't understand how Paul considers himself an expert on EVERYTHING, while only having experience shooting/selling mediocre content 30 years ago.

Paul, what makes you think that you are right about everything and everyone else is wrong?

I have a lot of experience in a few things. Selling and marketing are one of those few things. Running a successful business selling content until 8 years ago was also something I was good at.

My stance is, there's fuck all any of you can do to get Google to change the way they do business to suit you. Google has always put the surfer first. This thread is just like all the other bitching that a large company has changed its rule to suit customers and not us. So apart from collective bitching and weeping this thread is pointless.

My point is to take your heads out of your asses and realise that true marketing and selling is the way forward so you maximise the affect your sites have on people. Not worry about things you have no control over.

As for what I've achieved. So far as we can prove, more than you.

Paul Markham.

Google Expert. Which one are you. so far you're a loud mouth with a screen grab and nothing else.

Paul Markham · 11-19-2016, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

And wtf do you know about making money from the internet ?

Jesus.

I have more to claim about making money online than you. Is that enough for you?

Of course, it's easy to reply with abuse, hard to reply with links to your sites. Screengrabs are all most of you can muster.

Paul Markham · 11-19-2016, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I disagree, I've been dabbling in the traffic business for 18+ years and I get by ;)
WG

I was dabbling in porn since 1977. Assuming what worked yesterday will work tomorrow is wrong. this thread shows why.

Paul Markham · 11-19-2016, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

The best quality product doesn't always make the most. I'd rather focus on the marketing and traffic with mediocre content than go upscale. It's all about the margins.
WG

Agree. Most small people can't afford the best product.

Paul Markham · 11-19-2016, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Google Expert

Yeah, that's why some ad spots are sold out for months in advance.

Idiot.

I said most. there are many sites with lots of ad space. Are you an expert of buying traffic?

Paul Markham · 11-19-2016, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by vvvvv

Paul, what if SEO traffic is your bread and butter? And your site is a sales pitch. And people don't want a portal, they want a good deal... Then what?

Good point.

Then like people who are employed or rely on one company for their income. You have to suck it up and take what's dealt. While doing what the boss decrees. You will have to play the game according to Google.

You can try marketing on Twitter, FB, YT, etc. More and more effectively. You can make sure when people land on your site they're very impressed by it.

Of course, we are always at the mercy of what people want, so give it to them.

"what if SEO traffic is your bread and butter?" And you can't adapt. You die. And so far no one else has offered another solution, which is amazing with so many experts here.

Paul Markham · 11-19-2016, 03:07 PM

Relying on Google puts you at the mercy of Google and you have no control over it.

Using Social Media works great and gives you far more control. Just follow the rules and have some common sense about what you post.

Think about your customer first, what motivates him, what does he want, need, like, etc. Apart from the hardcore porn aspect. Because that's done to death and everyone is still flogging that dead horse. Be clever, entertaining and informative.

Also use text to please the SE Bots and video to please customers. Just not sponsors clips taken from the porn scenes. They're so 2002 and never will compete with Tubes. Images as well aren't going to help much to entertain customers. They're 1998.

Of course, there are those that can't do this, which makes it great for those who can.

There are those who will just say this is rubbish, ask them what they do and ask them to show it. The problem with my critics is, none have shown anything that gives them the right to offer any advice or criticise.

WiredGuy · 11-19-2016, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Also use text to please the SE Bots and video to please customers. Just not sponsors clips taken from the porn scenes. They're so 2002 and never will compete with Tubes. Images as well aren't going to help much to entertain customers. They're 1998.

And here I am updating meta tags...
WG

Barry-xlovecam · 11-19-2016, 04:22 PM

Wow, just oh wow

johnnyloadproductions · 11-19-2016, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Wow, just oh wow

...you'd think Paul would have figured out the multi-quote feature by now. lol.

Another thread rekt by Paul Markham.

Paul Markham · 11-20-2016, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

And here I am updating meta tags...
WG

It's a job that has to be done. Does it guaranty that the people landing on your sites care about what you have there? That's the entire message I'm putting across.

Making the most of the traffic you have, is better than concentrating on getting more traffic to a site that doesn't make the most of it. My method is already winning which is why no one can challenge it. The days of opening a blog a week or month and filling it with meta tags and offering little to the people are over for all but those who have nothing to offer the people.

JLP. Some things come to me after I've posted, some are separate because they to be answered separately. So far I think I'm the only one posting ideas to get around what Google and other SEs are dedicated to doing. Providing the surfer with the best service.

Rochard · 12-09-2016, 11:09 AM

We need to stop relying on SEO. Start emailing your past customers.

mopek1 · 12-09-2016, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

We need to stop relying on SEO. Start emailing your past customers.

Yes. But a business also needs new ones.

WiredGuy · 12-09-2016, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

We need to stop relying on SEO. Start emailing your past customers.

Easier said than done for some people...

WG

Barry-xlovecam · 12-09-2016, 01:47 PM

Organic search yields the best new customer conversion ratios.

Don't confuse customer acquisition with email's best use scenario of a *customer retention touchpoint*. Emails "nag" a customer to return and are not that effective in the newer intention oriented web marketing.

Either you are indexed favorably in search or are present where your new customers are. Viral success or reputation branding are out of reach for most.

SomeCreep · 12-09-2016, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 247mg

What others are doing if you people like to share your thoughts on this which will help us making some strategies how to move forward and what need to be done... We can't fight with google algorithm updates but atleast we can change few things to keep in SERP.

Build a tube site. Give away all the free porn you can to attract a user-base of millions of free-loading porn surfers. Then sell their worthless traffic to desperate advertisers.

SomeCreep · 12-09-2016, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Easier said than done for some people...

WG

Hello WiredGuy, LTNS. Are you still in the adult business? I thought you were working in mainstream.

WiredGuy · 12-09-2016, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

Hello WiredGuy, LTNS. Are you still in the adult business? I thought you were working in mainstream.

I've never left adult, I just stopped posting on GFY. I did dabble in the mainstream software market for a while, but it didn't pan out. Just thought I'd pop back into GFY to see what I missed.
WG

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Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	Organic search yields the best new customer conversion ratios. Don't confuse customer acquisition with email's best use scenario of a customer retention touchpoint. Emails "nag" a customer to return and are not that effective in the newer intention oriented web marketing. Either you are indexed favorably in search or are present where your new customers are. Viral success or reputation branding are out of reach for most.