Clicked traffic/media buying

[Fabien]

I'm looking for good adult clicked traffic for one of my cam site.

Which media could you recommend me these days?

There's so many bot traffic offers now (or low quality)
So...

Thanks

[joker78]

check my sig

[BAKO]

Hit me up

[Nicky]

Maybe try juicyads

[Shaft_1971]

Originally Posted by Fabien

I'm looking for good adult clicked traffic for one of my cam site.

Which media could you recommend me these days?

There's so many bot traffic offers now (or low quality)
So...

Thanks

See my contact info below.

[Wizzo]

Originally Posted by Nicky

Maybe try juicyads

[C H R I S]

Hit us up at Etology, you wont be disappointed.

[LovinNothin]

Originally Posted by Fabien

I'm looking for good adult clicked traffic for one of my cam site.

Which media could you recommend me these days?

There's so many bot traffic offers now (or low quality)
So...

Thanks

most traffic brokers today are selling bot traffic. 3, 4, 5 cents a click from a computer program. The crime is off the hook, with no Federal regulation and the FCC is in slo motion to bust these fucking thieves.

If you don't believe me, just use any service, and test the traffic yourself. You'll see repeat IP's and traffic coming in from the same cities over and over again. (all from certain groups of servers)

You are buying numbers on a screen, that 's all. Some might sprinkle in 10% real traffic to fool your tests.

And if you call them out on bot traffic, you will always get the same answer, they all say the exact same thing:
"Thank you for bringing this to our attention, we are working hard to remove bot traffic from our system. No system is perfect but we work hard everyday to find these online cheats and close them down."



They sing that fucking song like an anthem. It's their legal loophole to sell you bot traffic and get away with it. They play the old "We didn't know" card and "Thanks for bringing this to our attention."

Fuck these thieves in the ass. The are all mother fucking low life crooks because there is no regulation.

And I'm talking about major traffic brokers, not just the seedy here today gone tomorrow ones. They have this game down cold. They've been selling bot traffic for years and know every fucking angle.

Banners? LOL same shit. You think you are getting real banner clicks??? They send skim traffic to your banner so you think you are getting clicks, when you are not. If your banner gets 50 clicks a day, and costs you $ 100 a month (example) That means you are getting 1,500 clicks a month, for $ 100. Good deal? But the 1500 of skim traffic only costs $ 4. So your broker makes $ 96 and you get 1500 skim traffic hits, from people that didn't want to visit your site to begin with.

Now that porn is free, how do you think traffic brokers are making money? They make it by selling bot traffic and skim traffic disguised as real organic traffic. Staff? Offices? Multiple employees and sales people??? Selling advertisement for a product that is already free??? Get real. It's a huge scam.

I hope they all burn in hell. All fucking thieves. Every single last one of them.

[Fabien]

Ok next...

[TheDynasty]

Check out the sig!

[ErectMedia]

No matter where ya buy from you'll need to put the work in and slowly filter out the trash.
ROI comparison based on traffic type, geo filtering, source, etc...
In 13 years of buying traffic there has only been 1 site where I just ordered clicked traffic and never fucked with it cause ROI was insane and unfortunately that site doesn't exist anymore as the owner is dead. So you will waste money in the learning process of filtering.

Good starting point would probably be to at least geo filter to premium countries. Most of the traffic I've bought in 13 years has been US & CA and then I filter it down from there. Not that those are the only 2 premium countries but it's mainly what I have focused on. So I don't think anyone can say buy traffic here it's gold as they all require filtering them down. Could do a run of the network at Juicy Ads and geo filter it to the premium countries and analyze from there. Same shit at Plug Rush etc... geo filter wherever ya buy from and white/black list as ya go. Over time and a few wasted dollars quality will increase as your filtering skills improve.

[fuzebox]

I'm interested to see the proof that the traffic networks are selling bot traffic.

Could it be that the offers are not enticing to users in 2017?

[Fabien]

Got a point there.

I've been online for 20 years now. I received my first check from GammaCash (i don't even recall if they were called GammaCash back then lol) then Xpics and it was so easy to rule all of the major search engines.

Now it's another ball game and i hate free sites. Why it's going down the toilet $$$!
If it was hard to find, people would buy! Period. Now there is nothing we can do about it. Too late.

With this said, paid traffic is an easy way out, at least for mainstream. You got a winner? You scale it to death with paid traffic!
You got $1 000 000 to spend, go for it as you'll make $3 000 000 (or even more)
Now i can't believe it's impossible for porn.

[bns666]

google.com/adwords

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by Fabien

With this said, paid traffic is an easy way out, at least for mainstream. You got a winner? You scale it to death with paid traffic!
You got $1 000 000 to spend, go for it as you'll make $3 000 000 (or even more)
Now i can't believe it's impossible for porn.

Adult is a different animal. There's not that many products that you can sell - just browse places with traffic and you're most likely to find the same offers all over the place.

So it's likely that you either have to find something that's not yet over promoted and be able to make it work. Or find a new way how to promote an already existing offer.

Cams are a hard sell - if you want to then hit me up and I can fill you in about a traffic source that may even convert, however it depends on what you're looking to promote and how.

And if it wouldn't make sense based on numbers and experience I won't be BS you.

Only Advertisers that make their money back are likely to invest / bid more, and that's also how you build value for the Publishers.

[fuzebox]

I believe that direct selling cams from display advertising is at best an uphill battle and at worst impossible.

A lot of live cam revenue comes from upsells. The average porn surfer isn't like "how do I pay to watch this girl live", and blasting them to a grid of average looking "currently online" models is not going to make anyone enter an email address let alone pull out a credit card.

You gotta get them in the door with something a lot more exciting! Most dating sites monetize with live cams because "fuck your neighbor" is a lot more enticing on the frontend than "watch this girl with a dildo", yet only one of those things ends up being possible...

[lovebitch]

Originally Posted by C H R I S

Hit us up at Etology, you wont be disappointed.

Minimum deposit as advertiser on etology ?

[Klen]

Originally Posted by lovebitch

Minimum deposit as advertiser on etology ?

It was 1000 USD last time i checked. Plus they deal mainly with member traffic which is ok traffic but i got used to RON traffic.

[C H R I S]

Originally Posted by lovebitch

Minimum deposit as advertiser on etology ?

$500 per zone.

Hit me up on Skype, I can work out a nice test plan to get you into more zones with a lower minimum. For us its about finding the right match for you offer and our traffic, we usually hit the mark as a majority of advertisers come back month after month, year after year.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by C H R I S

$500 per zone.

Hit me up on Skype, I can work out a nice test plan to get you into more zones with a lower minimum. For us its about finding the right match for you offer and our traffic, we usually hit the mark as a majority of advertisers come back month after month, year after year.

Sounds like you dont need new advertisers lol

[C H R I S]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Sounds like you dont need new advertisers lol

We always need new advertisers and publishers - thats how you continue growing business.

[TrafficRush]

send me a PM or skype me

[Daniel Piers]

Hit me up please if interested in HQ traffic. Fortunately, this isn't possible to send to bots by email

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by C H R I S

We always need new advertisers and publishers - thats how you continue growing business.

How much is a pop test for webcam?

[Marissa.pcash]

Originally Posted by LovinNothin

most traffic brokers today are selling bot traffic. 3, 4, 5 cents a click from a computer program. The crime is off the hook, with no Federal regulation and the FCC is in slo motion to bust these fucking thieves.

If you don't believe me, just use any service, and test the traffic yourself. You'll see repeat IP's and traffic coming in from the same cities over and over again. (all from certain groups of servers)

You are buying numbers on a screen, that 's all. Some might sprinkle in 10% real traffic to fool your tests.

And if you call them out on bot traffic, you will always get the same answer, they all say the exact same thing:
"Thank you for bringing this to our attention, we are working hard to remove bot traffic from our system. No system is perfect but we work hard everyday to find these online cheats and close them down."



They sing that fucking song like an anthem. It's their legal loophole to sell you bot traffic and get away with it. They play the old "We didn't know" card and "Thanks for bringing this to our attention."

Fuck these thieves in the ass. The are all mother fucking low life crooks because there is no regulation.

And I'm talking about major traffic brokers, not just the seedy here today gone tomorrow ones. They have this game down cold. They've been selling bot traffic for years and know every fucking angle.

Banners? LOL same shit. You think you are getting real banner clicks??? They send skim traffic to your banner so you think you are getting clicks, when you are not. If your banner gets 50 clicks a day, and costs you $ 100 a month (example) That means you are getting 1,500 clicks a month, for $ 100. Good deal? But the 1500 of skim traffic only costs $ 4. So your broker makes $ 96 and you get 1500 skim traffic hits, from people that didn't want to visit your site to begin with.

Now that porn is free, how do you think traffic brokers are making money? They make it by selling bot traffic and skim traffic disguised as real organic traffic. Staff? Offices? Multiple employees and sales people??? Selling advertisement for a product that is already free??? Get real. It's a huge scam.

I hope they all burn in hell. All fucking thieves. Every single last one of them.

Absolutely agree...trust no one..

[LovinNothin]

Originally Posted by Marissa.pcash

Absolutely agree...trust no one..

Thank you. Most of these adult webmasters are brain dead when it comes to fraud.

They are buying numbers on a screen, and wondering why their bounce rate is 97% from banner clicks. Traffic brokers are the biggest thieves online today. It's an epidemic that is way out of control and too big to slow down.

I know one day, a big whale with big bucks will hire a lawyer and take down one of these crooks, but until it happens, they will all feed on webmaster's ignorance.

It's estimated 2/3 of regular industry traffic is bot, and that's for regular non adult traffic.

Adult is the much much higher. In my opinion, 90% of all adult traffic is bot.

If you could deliver 10% real traffic, and 90% bot, and get paid 100% for the traffic and get away with it, wouldn't you? Of course you would. It's the wild wild west online, anything goes. No regulation, no FCC audits, nothing at all.

When your sales drop, or your bounce rate is 97% from clicked banners, now you know why.

Wake up people. Check the incoming IP's. Check where the hits are coming from. Check your bounce rate from banners. They can fake IP's now, send skim to your banners and bots can even click on the first page of your site to make it look like a real surfer. Put a small tiny link on your first page, that you can barely see, and for some reason, you'll get hits on it from your banner traffic. The bots pick up on url links, not the visual links in your page... once those bots click it, you'll know you are being royally fucked in the ass by your broker.

You are in for a huge awakening.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by LovinNothin

Thank you. Most of these adult webmasters are brain dead when it comes to fraud.

They are buying numbers on a screen, and wondering why their bounce rate is 97% from banner clicks. Traffic brokers are the biggest thieves online today. It's an epidemic that is way out of control and too big to slow down.

I know one day, a big whale with big bucks will hire a lawyer and take down one of these crooks, but until it happens, they will all feed on webmaster's ignorance.

It's estimated 2/3 of regular industry traffic is bot, and that's for regular non adult traffic.

Adult is the much much higher. In my opinion, 90% of all adult traffic is bot.

If you could deliver 10% real traffic, and 90% bot, and get paid 100% for the traffic and get away with it, wouldn't you? Of course you would. It's the wild wild west online, anything goes. No regulation, no FCC audits, nothing at all.

When your sales drop, or your bounce rate is 97% from clicked banners, now you know why.

Wake up people. Check the incoming IP's. Check where the hits are coming from. Check your bounce rate from banners. They can fake IP's now, send skim to your banners and bots can even click on the first page of your site to make it look like a real surfer. Put a small tiny link on your first page, that you can barely see, and for some reason, you'll get hits on it from your banner traffic. The bots pick up on url links, not the visual links in your page... once those bots click it, you'll know you are being royally fucked in the ass by your broker.

You are in for a huge awakening.

But who would keep buying if this was the case?

I am sure there is a ton of bot traffic in the networks but in the end the buyer also has to do his homework. Test, tweak, profit, repeat.

If it was easy everybody would do it but it's not.

[Markul]

Originally Posted by Roald

But who would keep buying if this was the case?

I am sure there is a ton of bot traffic in the networks but in the end the buyer also has to do his homework. Test, tweak, profit, repeat.

If it was easy everybody would do it but it's not.

Exactly.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by Roald

But who would keep buying if this was the case?

I am sure there is a ton of bot traffic in the networks but in the end the buyer also has to do his homework. Test, tweak, profit, repeat.

If it was easy everybody would do it but it's not.

What i learned in media buying , how it is almost irevellant quality of traffic for simple reason - if traffic is good, price for it will skyrocket and it will be still hard to monetize it due competition, if traffic is bad it will be cheap and it can be still used for something, for feeding freesite or testing scripts.

[WiredGuy]

I've found that media buying has become next to impossible. So much traffic is obviously clickbots (the same IP clicked 3 times from different useragents and just seconds apart) and ad networks claim it's perfectly legit traffic. I've tried several times to buy cams traffic this year as well and it's all been disasters, not even close to breaking even. If you find something that works, please do hit me up
WG

[bloggerz]

Don't buy traffic, create traffic from search engines

[Klen]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I've found that media buying has become next to impossible. So much traffic is obviously clickbots (the same IP clicked 3 times from different useragents and just seconds apart) and ad networks claim it's perfectly legit traffic. I've tried several times to buy cams traffic this year as well and it's all been disasters, not even close to breaking even. If you find something that works, please do hit me up
WG

Cams is definitely worst thing to promote with bought traffic, so far i have'nt met anyone who make money on it. I think most of traffic is bought by cam sites owners and you cant compete with their budget anyway. For example, i was using dutch vpn for some time, and no matter which ad network i got popup it was always xlovecam.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by bloggerz

Don't buy traffic, create traffic from search engines

And buy some links from bloggerz

[C H R I S]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I've found that media buying has become next to impossible. So much traffic is obviously clickbots (the same IP clicked 3 times from different useragents and just seconds apart) and ad networks claim it's perfectly legit traffic. I've tried several times to buy cams traffic this year as well and it's all been disasters, not even close to breaking even. If you find something that works, please do hit me up
WG

Have you tried our traffic Charles - we only offer Members Area traffic so it is completely different animal from "ad networks".

[C H R I S]

Originally Posted by Roald

But who would keep buying if this was the case?

I am sure there is a ton of bot traffic in the networks but in the end the buyer also has to do his homework. Test, tweak, profit, repeat.

If it was easy everybody would do it but it's not.

100% true

Yes there is some bot traffic on the big volume networks, but most is caught.

Professional media buyers can make almost any traffic source work, hobbyist I am afraid cannot.

I invite people to test Etology, 100% Bot Free and converts. If you've tested EXO, JUICY, TRAFFIC SHOP, ETC and are not able to make media buying work come talk to us, we'll set you up with a members area ad buy that will blow you away.

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by C H R I S

Have you tried our traffic Charles - we only offer Members Area traffic so it is completely different animal from "ad networks".

I'd be willing to try, I definitely prefer big brand name sites over tons of tiny websites.
WG

[WiredGuy]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Cams is definitely worst thing to promote with bought traffic, so far i have'nt met anyone who make money on it. I think most of traffic is bought by cam sites owners and you cant compete with their budget anyway. For example, i was using dutch vpn for some time, and no matter which ad network i got popup it was always xlovecam.

I have a really high target CPA (based on member registration, not a purchase) and still couldn't make it work on a couple networks. The clicks I did get seemed fishy as well, they set off a lot of my fraud monitoring tools (very similar IP's mostly) and didn't feel like the traffic was legit. I'd tolerate the fraud clicks if it was at least close to my CPA, but it wasn't even close.
WG

[LovinNothin]

Originally Posted by C H R I S

100% true

Yes there is some bot traffic on the big volume networks, but most is caught.

Ah yes, the same song and dance continues.... as I stated earlier, they all have the exact same rhetoric.... "....there is some bot traffic, but most is caught."

MOST??? PLEASE. Your business is based on bot traffic and the loopholes you use to sell it. They use these terms "most" to cover their own asses, so when you discover you have been buying bot traffic for months, they are very apologetic, and are "working hard to remove bot traffic from their system."

My favorite is how they "have no control over bot traffic."

Juicy Ads and Plug Rush come to mind there. They are like the Napsters of bot traffic. Always "working hard" to remove bot webmasters from their system, but never do. That's because most of their network of sites are owned by the same company. They create the bot traffic themselves and sell it to you, until you call it on them, then they apologize and tell you the same fucking bullshit they tell everybody. "We're working on removing it...." Like a fucking auto detect script for repeat fake IP's IS SO FUCKING HARD TO INSTALL???

HEY ASSHOLE. THERE SHOULD BE 0% BOT TRAFFIC IN YOUR SYSTEM. 0 FUCKING %.

You dam well know there are programs that can instantly detect repeat IP's and suspicious activity, but you never crack down on these fucking thieves because you make money from them. Your traffic systems are full of bot traffic, it's mainly ALL bot traffic, but that is where the money is.

All these brokers are lying pieces of shit selling bot traffic and skim clicks disguised as banner hits. Besides regular bot traffic, as far as you know, the skim they are sending to your banners is coming from a car dealership websites, or a middle school educational sites, that is why your bounce rate is 97% from banner traffic, when it should be 15 - 20%.

The turn over is huge. They don't care how many traffic buyers get ripped off, because when they leave, there are new fish taking their place. It's a revolving door or pure fucking crime.