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Old 12-14-2016, 10:51 PM   #1
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NBC News claims Putin himself directed political hacking

NBC News is claiming Putin not only knew about the hacking, but personally directed it. Yikes.

U.S. Officials: Putin Personally Involved in U.S. Election Hack - NBC News
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Trump spoke to Putin on national TV asking him to hack Hillary. The 538 needs to vote in a Republican replacement for Trump like Kasich or Romney

Conspiracy sites already calling it fake news SMH
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Added bonus, it also seems Trump's pick for National Security advisor also "accidentally" released classified intel to Afghan military while he was in the military. Imagine if Hillary or one of Obama's picks had done that..

Trump seems to know how to pick them..
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Any news story like this is media spin. Putin is bright enough to make sure it can;t be traced back to him.
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Old 12-15-2016, 01:18 AM   #5
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Any news story like this is media spin. Putin is bright enough to make sure it can;t be traced back to him.
He's been caught doing this in Europe. He wants the victims to know it's him, it's part of psychological warfare.
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Old 12-15-2016, 02:29 AM   #7
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Any news story like this is media spin. Putin is bright enough to make sure it can;t be traced back to him.
So you are saying it is impossible to catch him? Hard sure, but is he super human? No
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Old 12-15-2016, 02:35 AM   #8
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So you are saying it is impossible to catch him? Hard sure, but is he super human? No
I'm saying that online he has people clever enough to keep him hidden. And that it takes more than a news article to convince me.

Remeber WMD?
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how dare anybody hack the honest honest US elections?
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He's been caught doing this in Europe. He wants the victims to know it's him, it's part of psychological warfare.
Only one who tried to influence our referendum by sick propaganda campaigns to brainwash us was George Soros and his foundations. This is black on white with real evidence I have read.

Funny there is no proof whatsoever of this Russia thing, only sensational headlines.
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Old 12-15-2016, 04:53 AM   #11
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There wasnt fucking....sorry mean hacking
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Old 12-15-2016, 07:33 AM   #12
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NBC news. where hilary is STILL up by 11 points.
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Old 12-15-2016, 07:52 AM   #13
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NBC News is claiming Putin not only knew about the hacking, but personally directed it. Yikes.

U.S. Officials: Putin Personally Involved in U.S. Election Hack - NBC News
And why I'm not surprised?
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Old 12-15-2016, 08:08 AM   #14
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So Vlad is not invited to the Inaugural Gala then?
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NBC has proven to be an unbiased resource lately. wait...
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So Vlad is not invited to the Inaugural Gala then?
He doesn't need to go as he will be represented by Trump and the Sec of State
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I'm saying that online he has people clever enough to keep him hidden. And that it takes more than a news article to convince me.

Remeber WMD?
What would convince you though? A video of him doing it? Your own argument does not allow for any possible way for you to believe anything other than what you already do.
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Even if it was proven that Trump worked with Putin to steal the election and wipe their asses with American voters and democracy, GFY Trump voters will still cheer for him.
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What would convince you though? A video of him doing it? Your own argument does not allow for any possible way for you to believe anything other than what you already do.
would a pic do ????



He seems bored ... probably to easy ...
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Putin hacked the election:

1) Trump asked Putin to hack for him live on national TV.

2) The leaks happened at times during the campaign that only insiders knew would be high impact.

3) Trump bragged about close ties with Russia multiple times on national TV.

4) Despite Russia being an enemie of the state, Trump supports him.

5) Trump rejects U.S. intelligence about Trumps involvement in the election.

6) National Security Advisor pick Gen Flynn is an infamous Intel leaker and visited Putin in Russia despite being told not to by the U.S. government.

7) Secretary pick Tillerson has billions to make in Exxon deal with Russia.

8) Tillerson has bragged about 13 years of close friendship with Putin.

9) Trumps campaign manager Paul Monofort is under FBI investigation and was paid millions to help throw elections in the Ukrain.

10) Secretary pick Tillerson received the Russian Honor of Friendship award in Russia personally by Putin. ( AKA the butt buddy award )

Other than that, as far as we know, Russia's not involved in the 2016 U.S. elections at all
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Putin hacked the election:

1) Trump asked Putin to hack for him live on national TV.
I dare you to show the exact quote where Trump ever said that.

You can't, because it didn't happen.

What he said was that since Hillary had an illegal server and the intel agencys had just reported at that time that it was probably hacked that he wondered if the Russians could give us the "missing" emails from Hillary's server since she refused to.

The exaggeration and fabrication of what Trump says and does just makes his supporters MORE loyal to him.

Stick with fact and you can make your point a lot better.
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I'm saying that online he has people clever enough to keep him hidden. And that it takes more than a news article to convince me.

Remeber WMD?
He wants people to know it's him Paul that's the point. Don't you get it? Its part of psychological warfare.
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I dare you to show the exact quote where Trump ever said that.

You can't, because it didn't happen.

What he said was that since Hillary had an illegal server and the intel agencys had just reported at that time that it was probably hacked that he wondered if the Russians could give us the "missing" emails from Hillary's server since she refused to.

The exaggeration and fabrication of what Trump says and does just makes his supporters MORE loyal to him.

Stick with fact and you can make your point a lot better.
Wow you skip 9 other FACTS I pointed out. You're in such denial and instead of getting the quote and posting it you think I'm gonna make you're argument for you. Do it youself.

Putin = Russia and he asked them to hack her on TV. If Trump "didn't know" Russia was hacking the DNC why would he ask for info from them on national TV? He wouldnt! But all of a sudden Trump doesn't believe Russia hacked the election.

And ignore all of his pro Putin appointments and denial of intel, etc you're so brainwashed.

What makes you "more loyal" is ignoring FACTS in front of you out of party over country loyalty. ( BTW I still love you, just slapping you around politically ;) )
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Other than that, as far as we know, Russia's not involved in the 2016 U.S. elections at all
According to the US media, almighty Putin is the new Emperor of Earth. He can easily start the civilian war in Ukraine and put the biggest (after Russia of course) country in Europe into chaos, force Brits to vote for Brexit, set his puppet governments in the USA and EU. Is there anything he can't?



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I dare you to show the exact quote where Trump ever said that.

You can't, because it didn't happen.

What he said was that since Hillary had an illegal server and the intel agencys had just reported at that time that it was probably hacked that he wondered if the Russians could give us the "missing" emails from Hillary's server since she refused to.

The exaggeration and fabrication of what Trump says and does just makes his supporters MORE loyal to him.

Stick with fact and you can make your point a lot better.
Ahh I knew it wouldn't take long for Mr unbiased Robbie himself to start defending Trump.

Just imagine the Robbie outrage if Obama had appointed a guy with close ties to Putin in his cabinet.

Just Think of the outrage if Obama said on TV for Russians to hack Trump's servers.. We would need lots of investigations over that!!
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According to the US media, almighty Putin is the new Emperor of Earth. He can easily start the civilian war in Ukraine and put the biggest (after Russia of course) country in Europe into a chaos, force Brits to vote for Brexit, set his puppet governments in the USA and EU. Is there anything he can't?

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Wow you skip 9 other FACTS I pointed out. You're in such denial and instead of getting the quote and posting it you think I'm gonna make you're argument for you. Do it youself.

Putin = Russia and he asked them to hack her on TV. If Trump "didn't know" Russia was hacking the DNC why would he ask for info from them on national TV? He wouldnt! But all of a sudden Trump doesn't believe it.

And ignore all of his pro Putin appointments and denial of intel, etc you're so brainwashed.

What makes you "more loyal" is ignoring FACTS in front of you out of party over country loyalty. ( BTW I still love you, just slapping you around politically ;) )
I asked you to prove what you said in that one statement.
And as I said...you can't do that because it's not true.

As for your question about Trump knowing anything....the FBI was testifying in front of Congress at that exact time and it was all over the news that they had testified that Hillary's server was hacked by other countries.

Now you're just pretending to be ignorant to try and make a point.

I simply asked you to prove your statement on Trump saying what you claim he said.
You can't because you lied about it. Pretty simple stuff here.

If you really want to argue points seriously...then don't use exaggerated Democrat Party talking points and stick to the facts.
I think you could make a pretty convincing argument without the nonsense and "fake news" type of statements.
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Ahh I knew it wouldn't take long for Mr unbiased Robbie himself to start defending Trump.

Just imagine the Robbie outrage if Obama had appointed a guy with close ties to Putin in his cabinet.
Good answer crockett. Oh wait...you didn't provide the quote of Trump ever saying that either now did you?

Pointing out lies in posts doesn't make me "biased".

But me telling you straight up right here and now that I am glad Trump was elected and looking forward to a great future for our economy because of that...well NOW you can say I just made a "biased" statement.

I am 100% "biased" in favor of the people of the U.S. getting good paying jobs, the economy kicking ass, trade deals that don't screw us over, and raising the tens of millions who have fallen into poverty over the last decade up.

Sorry if you have a problem with that.
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Good answer crockett. Oh wait...you didn't provide the quote of Trump ever saying that either now did you?

Pointing out lies in posts doesn't make me "biased".

But me telling you straight up right here and now that I am glad Trump was elected and looking forward to a great future for our economy because of that...well NOW you can say I just made a "biased" statement.

I am 100% "biased" in favor of the people of the U.S. getting good paying jobs, the economy kicking ass, trade deals that don't screw us over, and raising the tens of millions who have fallen into poverty over the last decade up.

Sorry if you have a problem with that.
I watched him say it on TV Robbie. I'm not wasting my time looking for a video clip that you will ignore anyway. You will just claim he didn't say it "exactly" this way or that or he didn't really mean it. Meanwhile you would call Obama a commie supporter if he said anything remotely close to it.

You are too drunk on the kool-aid to bother debating. Anyone whom will sit here and deny something he said on live TV is so far in denial it's not worth bothering with.
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I'm a libby hippy as you all know, but in this case I have to agree with Robbie.

I still think Trump knew, and I think he even worked with Putin to do this, but in that terrible, ridiculous and stupid statement by Trump, he did not ask / tell Poot to "hack".

Again it was an incredible, very very stupid, very very immature, dangerous, and downright fucking horrible thing to say for any president wannabe at the podium, but, Robbie is right. Let's just stick to the actual facts.
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Robbie, what do you think Trump meant .... look in the top shelf of the closet ???
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It's so funny that one half of our country wants to deny what our intelligence agencies are saying. If Hilary Clinton was in Trump's position, I wonder if that same denial would be there.

Before you idiots say anything, keep this in mind. Several US intelligence agencies have stated that not only was Russia involved in the hacking of the DNC, but there was a desired outcome to elect Trump. The half of the country who accepts that fact are the ones who are right. Not the dickheads who are worried it's going to keep Orange Mongoloid out of the White House.
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I asked you to prove what you said in that one statement.
And as I said...you can't do that because it's not true.

As for your question about Trump knowing anything....the FBI was testifying in front of Congress at that exact time and it was all over the news that they had testified that Hillary's server was hacked by other countries.

Now you're just pretending to be ignorant to try and make a point.

I simply asked you to prove your statement on Trump saying what you claim he said.
You can't because you lied about it. Pretty simple stuff here.

If you really want to argue points seriously...then don't use exaggerated Democrat Party talking points and stick to the facts.
I think you could make a pretty convincing argument without the nonsense and "fake news" type of statements.
It's very possible and highly likely Trump himself would have no knowledge of Russian hacking....but considering some of the close ties in his campaign management team to Russia, it's very likely they knew about it.

I also think that Trump's statement on TV had nothing to do with directly asking Russia to hack the election. That was just him speaking without thinking...you know... 99% of what comes out of his mouth.
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breaking news....MSNBC is reporting what US intelligence agencies are saying.

Breaking news....FOX is doing their very best to tell their viewers "nothing to see here".
(yest they are actually doing that. I was just watching the channel)
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Robbie stated this: "As for your question about Trump knowing anything....the FBI was testifying in front of Congress at that exact time and it was all over the news that they had testified that Hillary's server was hacked by other countries."

I don't recall that being said by the FBI. If the statement made by Robbie is true can some one provide me a link proving this statement is true. This request includes you also Robbie.
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Just imagine the outrage Robblie and the other right wing goons would be having if it was Obama saying this..



Oh and BTW it starts out with a grand ol lie of Trump claiming he has nothing to do with Putin, even though this has since been proven untrue. (Donald Trump's Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia)

Our little Right wing buddies here on GFY will of course ignore that one as well, but they would be calling the lynch mob if it had been Obama or Hillary..
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Trump spoke to Putin on national TV asking him to hack Hillary. The 538 needs to vote in a Republican replacement for Trump like Kasich or Romney

Conspiracy sites already calling it fake news SMH
I liked Kasich and thought there was a good chance I would vote for him over Hillary.

Can the electorial college vote for someone who wasn't on the ballet?
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Robbie stated this: "As for your question about Trump knowing anything....the FBI was testifying in front of Congress at that exact time and it was all over the news that they had testified that Hillary's server was hacked by other countries."

I don't recall that being said by the FBI. If the statement made by Robbie is true can some one provide me a link proving this statement is true. This request includes you also Robbie.
The FBI never claimed it wasn't Russia at that time. Don't twist the facts, they knew the attacks originated from multiple countries IP zones and couldn't lay blame at that time as to who was behind it.
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Added bonus, it also seems Trump's pick for National Security advisor also "accidentally" released classified intel to Afghan military while he was in the military. Imagine if Hillary or one of Obama's picks had done that..

Trump seems to know how to pick them..
Jason Chaffetz is very concerned about our nation's security and how classified information is handled. I am sure he will hold multiple investigations into this. Right?
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I dare you to show the exact quote where Trump ever said that.

You can't, because it didn't happen.
Okay.

"Russia, if you are listening, I hope you are able to find the thirty thousand emails that are missing. I believe you will be mightily rewarded by our press. "



That took me about thirty seconds to find on Youtube.
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Good answer crockett. Oh wait...you didn't provide the quote of Trump ever saying that either now did you?

Pointing out lies in posts doesn't make me "biased".

But me telling you straight up right here and now that I am glad Trump was elected and looking forward to a great future for our economy because of that...well NOW you can say I just made a "biased" statement.

I am 100% "biased" in favor of the people of the U.S. getting good paying jobs, the economy kicking ass, trade deals that don't screw us over, and raising the tens of millions who have fallen into poverty over the last decade up.

Sorry if you have a problem with that.
Meantime in reality land the unemployment rate is at 4.6%. Let's see if Trump can "fix" this, because, you know, a 4.6% unemployment is horrible. Let's see where we stand in two, three, and four years from now.

Take a look at who Trump is going to have in his cabinet. The women he appointed to run the education department has never been to a public school, nor has her kids. The man he appointed to run his energy department once said he wanted to get rid of it. The man he has running the EPA used to run Exxon.

Trump is going to lower taxes and increase spending? Do the math, that's not going to work.

Oddly enough, Trump has been very quiet about what Russia is doing in Aleppo. He's too busy meeting with Kanye West and introducing his kids to the leaders of the tech world.
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Conspiracy sites already calling it fake news SMH
Mean Putin stole muh elecshuns






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Meantime in reality land the unemployment rate is at 4.6%


in libtard reality maybe
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Hello ignore everything I say, I'm just a paid Putin Pet.
Non US citizen, likely of Russian decent trying to troll GFY political topics.. Why is it over 50% of the pro Trump supporters on this board are not US citizens and always foaming at the mouth pushing anti-US conspiracies and other rhetoric?
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The FBI never claimed it wasn't Russia at that time. Don't twist the facts, they knew the attacks originated from multiple countries IP zones and couldn't lay blame at that time as to who was behind it.
I don't recall the FBI ever stating that Hillary's server was hacked. I did hear Director Comey say that there was not any evidence that her server had been hacked. I have now googled it to veryify what I thought.

Robbie's statement is simply not true and he was accusing others of not reporting the truth when he is as guilty as those he pointed the finger at.
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I asked you to prove what you said in that one statement.
And as I said...you can't do that because it's not true.

As for your question about Trump knowing anything....the FBI was testifying in front of Congress at that exact time and it was all over the news that they had testified that Hillary's server was hacked by other countries.

Now you're just pretending to be ignorant to try and make a point.

I simply asked you to prove your statement on Trump saying what you claim he said.
You can't because you lied about it. Pretty simple stuff here.

If you really want to argue points seriously...then don't use exaggerated Democrat Party talking points and stick to the facts.
I think you could make a pretty convincing argument without the nonsense and "fake news" type of statements.
As usual Robbie always wants everyone else to prove everything then he's twists his words to try wiggle out by saying he didn't say "exactly" that so he can claim he's right. Once the shit gets too deep and facts over runs his narrow half truths, he disappears from the topic.

All he ever does is picks some narrow little part of a discussion in which he can attack and then use that as claim the rest of the argument is false. It's what he's done for years, I dunno why anyone here still gives him any serious debate..

This is why long ago I stopped taking Robbie serious, as he is no different from the likes of guys like nico-t or JoushuaMo. He will never admit he's wrong, just like he argued non stop about Hillary giving "stand down" orders during Benghazi even though every investigation showed she didn't. Then when it was no way he could argue it anymore, he never admitted he was wrong but instead just ignored any mention of it and started rambling about other parts or the emails.

Typical right wing goons and their bait and switch.. It's no use in debating with them, just troll them and beat them with sticks..
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