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Old 12-30-2016, 11:50 AM   #51
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This just shows how fucking stupid the DNC (inclusive) is; but go ahead and blame Putin.
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At this point I have decided many conservatives and Republicans will not believe anything that is in the mainstream media or that comes from the government unless it comes directly from Trump's mouth or twitter feed.
If it's not 140 characters or less & comes from DT's Twitter account, they can't comprehend it, and won't believe it.

It's unfortunate that they are trained to only believe one man, and one man alone, a man that continually lies
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Simple- the wikileaks emails implicate no less than 6 members of Congress involved in the large DC pedophile ring. Also these were LEAKS, not hacks. Seth Rich paid with his life. Are we also forgetting that John Podesta left his phone in a cab? And he fell for the ol' change your password phishing scam on his gmail account. The intelligence community has already come forward and explained that THEY leaked the material to wikileaks. The leaks show that the Podesta brothers are pedophiles and good buddies with known pedophiles like Dennis Hastert and that many are still on the loose in Washington. Isn't that right, MITCH McCONNELL??



Goddammit Crockett TURN OFF RACHEL MADDOW. This is FALSE. There was no hack of the RNC, proven fact. You clowns are so upset about leaked emails, but don't care about all the nefarious dealings the emails revealed. Fuck off to North Korea, unamerican commies!
Numb nuts AKA Mr Fake nick of the day.. I think for my self I don't watch 24 hr news networks. I don't even have fucking cable you fucking idiot. Now go away and find your self a new fake nick of the week, you bipolar little troll, Take some fucking meds before you go full blown conspiracy nutter.
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Old 12-30-2016, 12:37 PM   #54
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If it's not 140 characters or less & comes from DT's Twitter account, they can't comprehend it, and won't believe it.

It's unfortunate that they are trained to only believe one man, and one man alone, a man that continually lies
They would make nice little commie bastards. The kind which live under dictatorship rule and happily turn their family in because the speak badly of Kim Don Trump. This sort of mentality is what makes those sort of situations happen. They are crazed lunatics. No reason to treat them with any sort of respect or expect them to have intelligent conversations.
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This just shows how fucking stupid the DNC (inclusive) is; but go ahead and blame Putin.
So the CIA and FBI now confirm that Russia hacked the shit out of the US, but your man trump is telling you to ignore the findings.

And you are ok with that?
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Simple- the wikileaks emails implicate no less than 6 members of Congress involved in the large DC pedophile ring.
Sure sure, the one at the pizza place, right?
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This just shows how fucking stupid the DNC (inclusive) is; but go ahead and blame Putin.
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Glad to hear Rep. Jason Chaffetz is working on what's really important right now. Russia is hacking United States political parties and fucking with our elections, but instead let's issue subpoenas to the White House and Interior Secretary Sally Jewell because of the recent designation of two monuments in Utah and Nevada. Because, you know, our elections aren't important but federal parks are clearly a threat to national security.

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Old 12-30-2016, 02:53 PM   #59
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Glad to hear Rep. Jason Chaffetz is working on what's really important right now. Russia is hacking United States political parties and fucking with our elections, but instead let's issue subpoenas to the White House and Interior Secretary Sally Jewell because of the recent designation of two monuments in Utah and Nevada. Because, you know, our elections aren't important but federal parks are clearly a threat to national security.

Chaffetz demands White House document dump over Bears Ears designation | Deseret News
It's only 1.65 milion square miles of land the Republicans can't develope in Utah now. Its a big fuck you to Chaffetz

Chaffetz is showing how partisan he is and is abusing his power for personal reasons impacting only his state primarily.
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This is where the real problem is.... Russia is trying to hack EVERYTHING. Now they've discovered Russia is trying to hack a US power company..... You don't think they are trying to hack every power company in the US? If we go to war with Russia the first thing to go is our power grid....

Vermont Electricity Department Finds Malware Linked to Russian Hackers - NBC News

But nah... This isn't important for our government to be investigating. Let's investigate Clinton's emails again.
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Seems Russia already did this once before - In Ukraine. The took an entire power company down. Read this article- it's very scary.

https://www.wired.com/2016/03/inside...es-power-grid/
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If the Russians hacked the DNC and then gave Wikileaks the information, then yes, the Russians sure did help to get Trump elected.

Let's just say the Russians had nothing to do with this.... A major political party in the United States was hacked and emails handed out like candy given to kids for the only purpose of influencing our election.... How isn't our Congress demanding an investigation at the highest level?
If is a big word.

What was hacked that changed how people voted?
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Still waiting for an answer.
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Still waiting for an answer.
The government believes that the hackers access DNC servers where they found some pretty damning emails and information that showed how the DNC and Hillary gamed Bernie Sanders. There were also emails that showed a DNC official that worked at CNN part time gave Hillary some of the questions before the CNN hosted Presidental Debate. They also say that Russia used hackers and others to put together what they are calling Troll Farms which were dedicated to creating fake news stories about Hillary and then making them go viral so they had a lot of people reading and believing them.

There may be other things, but at this point they aren't releasing that information.
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Numb nuts AKA Mr Fake nick of the day.. I think for my self I don't watch 24 hr news networks. I don't even have fucking cable you fucking idiot. Now go away and find your self a new fake nick of the week, you bipolar little troll, Take some fucking meds before you go full blown conspiracy nutter.
Crockett, you are WRONG. There was no hack if the RNC servers. The New York Times was lying. The big question is, will Crockett ever post real facts??

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The government believes that the hackers access DNC servers where they found some pretty damning emails and information that showed how the DNC and Hillary gamed Bernie Sanders. There were also emails that showed a DNC official that worked at CNN part time gave Hillary some of the questions before the CNN hosted Presidental Debate. They also say that Russia used hackers and others to put together what they are calling Troll Farms which were dedicated to creating fake news stories about Hillary and then making them go viral so they had a lot of people reading and believing them.

There may be other things, but at this point they aren't releasing that information.
Mostly true except the troll farm part. They think some Macedonian teenagers with some satire websites affected the election??? Gimme a break, maybe it was Americans' disgust with the massive election fraud and theft of the primary, her untrustworthiness, the fact that her campaign was funded by Saudi Arabia after she ruined the middle east and caused an international refugee crisis, and the fact that she can barely walk and shows signs of seizure disorder and Parkinson's disease. That and she's an evil lying criminal.

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https://www.wired.com/2016/03/inside...es-power-grid/
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This is where the real problem is.... Russia is trying to hack EVERYTHING. Now they've discovered Russia is trying to hack a US power company..... You don't think they are trying to hack every power company in the US? If we go to war with Russia the first thing to go is our power grid....

Vermont Electricity Department Finds Malware Linked to Russian Hackers - NBC News

But nah... This isn't important for our government to be investigating. Let's investigate Clinton's emails again.
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PS:Why do we need to hack? And why should we harm the for themselves(our part sell uranium for power plant in usa)?
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The government believes that the hackers access DNC servers where they found some pretty damning emails and information that showed how the DNC and Hillary gamed Bernie Sanders. There were also emails that showed a DNC official that worked at CNN part time gave Hillary some of the questions before the CNN hosted Presidental Debate. They also say that Russia used hackers and others to put together what they are calling Troll Farms which were dedicated to creating fake news stories about Hillary and then making them go viral so they had a lot of people reading and believing them.

There may be other things, but at this point they aren't releasing that information.
So the big hack was stuff the electorate had every right to know. No wonder some are pissed off.

Meanwhile, the media spent most of their time digging up every single derogatory story they could about Trump. And exaggerating them or creating a few.
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We all know the US has huge teams trying to hack everyone they can.

The US hacking other countries. So why are they bitching about being hacked?
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So the big hack was stuff the electorate had every right to know. No wonder some are pissed off.

Meanwhile, the media spent most of their time digging up every single derogatory story they could about Trump. And exaggerating them or creating a few.
It's not what they uncovered and whether or not we should have a right to know it that matters. What matters is that they were hacked. That is a very serious thing and many people are just blowing it off and joking about it because they hate Clinton.
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Was Seth Rich Russian too? Rochard, you're simply mistaken if you believe Russians somehow got Trump elected. The Podesta wikileaks have been cryptographically verified to be genuine. Leaks, not hacks. Also, let's not forget that John Podesta left his smartphone in a cab. Then he fell for a password phishing scam on his Gmail account. Do I need to mention Hillary's illegal, unsecure email server? These clowns can't even manage their own email security, and you want them running the country???

Finally, yeah, we do know the source of the leaks- it was our own agents at the NSA and FBI, who have everyone's email that ever gets sent. It was revealed by the former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State. Watch:

I share your views, but I doubt reason and facts will have any affect on the fundamentalists here
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The new fearless leader is a 70 year old man that is a computer bozo
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It's not what they uncovered and whether or not we should have a right to know it that matters. What matters is that they were hacked. That is a very serious thing and many people are just blowing it off and joking about it because they hate Clinton.
Do you feel the same about America hacking other countries?

As for this one, again the information released should have been released.
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Kind of reminds me of when the US intelligence agencies assured us that Iraq had nukes
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So the big hack was stuff the electorate had every right to know. No wonder some are pissed off.

Meanwhile, the media spent most of their time digging up every single derogatory story they could about Trump. And exaggerating them or creating a few.
You must have been napping this last election cycle. Every single day the media talked about Clinton's emails and the hacked emails of the DNC, every single day.

A story would come out about some evil shit Trump has done and it would be in the news cycle a day or two then right back to Clinton and the emails. Out of the whole year the only story that has legs was grab them by the pussy, that lasted a week, then right back to Clinton's emails, which weren't actually hers, it was Pedestos & the DNC.
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Kind of reminds me of when the US intelligence agencies assured us that Iraq had nukes
I do not recall the US intelligence making any such statement. Educate me and post any link that proves that statement.

I goggled it an cannot find any such statement.
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Kind of reminds me of when the US intelligence agencies assured us that Iraq had nukes
Double post. Not sure why.
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This is where the real problem is.... Russia is trying to hack EVERYTHING. Now they've discovered Russia is trying to hack a US power company..... You don't think they are trying to hack every power company in the US? If we go to war with Russia the first thing to go is our power grid....

Vermont Electricity Department Finds Malware Linked to Russian Hackers - NBC News

But nah... This isn't important for our government to be investigating. Let's investigate Clinton's emails again.
Didn't we know already the USA can do the same.
Else they have been sleeping the last 25 years.

Already in 1996 you had a virus that could control someone's pc.
You just run an ip scanner and could see every computer infected.
It isn't new what they are doing. Disconnect from internet is only remedy.
There always will be people opening every email.
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I do not recall the US intelligence making any such statement. Educate me and post any link that proves that statement.

I goggled it an cannot find any such statement.
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Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction: The Assessment of the British Government, also known as the September Dossier, was a document published by the British government on 24 September 2002 on the same day of a recall of Parliament to discuss the contents of the document.[1]
The paper was part of an ongoing investigation by the government into weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq, which ultimately led to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. It contained a number of allegations according to which Iraq also possessed WMD, including chemical weapons and biological weapons.
The dossier even alleged that Iraq had reconstituted its nuclear weapons programme. Without exception, all of the allegations included within the September Dossier have been since proven to be false, as shown by the Iraq Survey Group.
|If you are looking for a word to word quote, it does not exist , as all the sexying of the reasons to go to war were implications/deductions leading to other implications/deductions .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_Dossier

US intelligence ran & repeated this over and over : " according to british intelligence .... " .... Gave them deniability ....
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I do not recall the US intelligence making any such statement. Educate me and post any link that proves that statement.

I goggled it an cannot find any such statement.
Didn't you follow what was happening at the time.

Let me "educate" you real quick.

Bill Clinton himself as President:
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.


And then Bush used a CIA report to invade Iraq that was also DEAD WRONG.
CNN.com - Report slams CIA for Iraq intelligence failures - Jul 9, 2004

And here's Senator Hillary Clinton:
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002


These were all CIA fuck-ups and false info.

And of course in 2015 it was revealed that intelligence reports on the war with ISIS had been altered to make it look better than it is:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/23/wo...orts.html?_r=0

Weird how the CIA is one of the most ruthless and overtly political agency's in the Federal Govt. and how nobody can trust them...until NOW.

Suddenly, the CIA director answering to his boss Pres. Obama alleges that Russia "meddled" with the election but won't show any proof.

But everyone is accepting it as gospel.

Just like everyone believed them and we went to war with Iraq.

Trust me...if Obama uses the CIA to start a war with Russia, it won't be as easy as conquering Iraq.

This is war-mongering at it's worst.
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Do you feel the same about America hacking other countries?

As for this one, again the information released should have been released.
If any country tries to influence or mess with the fair elections of another country that is wrong.

As for the information, I agree it should have been released, but two wrongs don't make a right. You can't steal someone's car then tell the police you stole it to keep them from driving drunk.
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Didn't you follow what was happening at the time.

Let me "educate" you real quick.

Bill Clinton himself as President:
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.


And then Bush used a CIA report to invade Iraq that was also DEAD WRONG.
CNN.com - Report slams CIA for Iraq intelligence failures - Jul 9, 2004

And here's Senator Hillary Clinton:
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002


These were all CIA fuck-ups and false info.

And of course in 2015 it was revealed that intelligence reports on the war with ISIS had been altered to make it look better than it is:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/23/wo...orts.html?_r=0

Weird how the CIA is one of the most ruthless and overtly political agency's in the Federal Govt. and how nobody can trust them...until NOW.

Suddenly, the CIA director answering to his boss Pres. Obama alleges that Russia "meddled" with the election but won't show any proof.

But everyone is accepting it as gospel.

Just like everyone believed them and we went to war with Iraq.

Trust me...if Obama uses the CIA to start a war with Russia, it won't be as easy as conquering Iraq.

This is war-mongering at it's worst.
I followed events better than you it seems as no US intel agency ever made the statement you pulled from your ass. "Kind of reminds me of when the US intelligence agencies assured us that Iraq had nukes"

Why you people feed the need to lie about events will never cease to amaze me or maybe it will or already has. The truth is usually bad enough without enhancing it with lies.
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Didn't you follow what was happening at the time.

Let me "educate" you real quick.

Bill Clinton himself as President:
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.


And then Bush used a CIA report to invade Iraq that was also DEAD WRONG.
CNN.com - Report slams CIA for Iraq intelligence failures - Jul 9, 2004

And here's Senator Hillary Clinton:
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002


These were all CIA fuck-ups and false info.

And of course in 2015 it was revealed that intelligence reports on the war with ISIS had been altered to make it look better than it is:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/23/wo...orts.html?_r=0

Weird how the CIA is one of the most ruthless and overtly political agency's in the Federal Govt. and how nobody can trust them...until NOW.

Suddenly, the CIA director answering to his boss Pres. Obama alleges that Russia "meddled" with the election but won't show any proof.

But everyone is accepting it as gospel.

Just like everyone believed them and we went to war with Iraq.

Trust me...if Obama uses the CIA to start a war with Russia, it won't be as easy as conquering Iraq.

This is war-mongering at it's worst.
Once again Robbie pulling info out of his ass, lying and making shit up to fit his narrative. The US intel agencies did not say that. That was a British report..

The reason Bush was able to sell the war and get others on board is because he and his admin, cherry picked the fuck out of the intel reports to claim Saddam had WMD then used that to sell the war to congress and our allies. Tony Blair also did the same thing on his side of the pond..

The reason so many members of congress went along with the war and voted in favor is because they believed what Bush & co was telling them. This wasn't a case of failed intelligence starting a war. It was a case of an administration nit picking intelligence to push a war.

Yes there was a war monger but it wasn't the CIA or Clinton.. However in Robbie's world it's always the liberal's fault.. Anyone but his team..
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Didn't you follow what was happening at the time.

Let me "educate" you real quick.

Bill Clinton himself as President:
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.


And then Bush used a CIA report to invade Iraq that was also DEAD WRONG.
CNN.com - Report slams CIA for Iraq intelligence failures - Jul 9, 2004

And here's Senator Hillary Clinton:
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002


These were all CIA fuck-ups and false info.

And of course in 2015 it was revealed that intelligence reports on the war with ISIS had been altered to make it look better than it is:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/23/wo...orts.html?_r=0

Weird how the CIA is one of the most ruthless and overtly political agency's in the Federal Govt. and how nobody can trust them...until NOW.

Suddenly, the CIA director answering to his boss Pres. Obama alleges that Russia "meddled" with the election but won't show any proof.

But everyone is accepting it as gospel.

Just like everyone believed them and we went to war with Iraq.

Trust me...if Obama uses the CIA to start a war with Russia, it won't be as easy as conquering Iraq.

This is war-mongering at it's worst.




Robbie blames BOTH Clinton's & the CIA for invading Iraq. PRICELESS!

Robbie didn't you follow what was happening at the time?

Let me "educate" you real quick.

Bush wanted to goto war with Iraq.

Then 535 people in congress had to vote on his request.

Notice from the chart I highlighted below, REPUBLICANS ( your party ) overwhelming put us in that fucked up war, where Democrats overwhelming voted AGAINST the war.




Look at the right wing headline results for CIA & FBI:

Trump smart to be skeptical of FBI, CIA — just look at their track record ...

The alt-right is telling you guys you can't believe U.S. intelligence and to listen to Trump for the correct info. Do you realize what that means, the road you're being taken down?

Trump told you the elections were rigged, you agreed, until he won, then changed his story saying the elections aren't rigged, and you agree.

Trump said the Electoral College is not Democratic and should be abolished, until the Electoral College voted him president, then he said they're brilliant and a safeguard for Democracy.

Don't you see a fundamental problem with taking one mans word as truth when the truth instantly changes to fit their narrative?

Don't you see a red flag when you're told to trust the FBI by your party when it's convenient, and told not to trust them when info comes out that damages them?
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I didn't "blame" the Clinton's.

I pointed out that the CIA not only has a long history of nefarious activity...but also have been shown to "cook" intel to the President's beck and call.
I 100% agree about Bush having them cook it up for him. As did Bill Clinton when he ordered missiles fired on Iraq.
That's what the CIA does.

If you guys are all pro-CIA...I don't know what to say about that.
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Goddammit Crockett and Bladewire!! You clowns are totally f*cking right for once! Yeah Bush & Cheney knew the intel on WMDs was bogus. Those peckerwoods just wanted to make them & their friends rich from war contracts! They are war criminals!! Here's Jesse Ventura's report on the matter. He should be POTUS!

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america invade over lies? but who would post such a hurtful thing? its like saying the US army is a bunch of paid terrorists and thugs
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You must have been napping this last election cycle. Every single day the media talked about Clinton's emails and the hacked emails of the DNC, every single day.

A story would come out about some evil shit Trump has done and it would be in the news cycle a day or two then right back to Clinton and the emails. Out of the whole year the only story that has legs was grab them by the pussy, that lasted a week, then right back to Clinton's emails, which weren't actually hers, it was Pedestos & the DNC.
What exactly were they saying about her emails? That she shouldn't have deleted after being told to present them, that they should never be on a private server, that she might have something to hide?

Compared to what was dragged up about Trump it was more important that you know what she does when she'sin office.
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If any country tries to influence or mess with the fair elections of another country that is wrong.
As an American how can you say that and keep a straight face?

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As for the information, I agree it should have been released, but two wrongs don't make a right.
This wrong was informing the electorate of what Hillary was keen to hide.
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I followed events better than you it seems as no US intel agency ever made the statement you pulled from your ass. "Kind of reminds me of when the US intelligence agencies assured us that Iraq had nukes"

Why you people feed the need to lie about events will never cease to amaze me or maybe it will or already has. The truth is usually bad enough without enhancing it with lies.
You're splitting hairs. Bush, Blair and cronies lied and lied again to us. To make money for the Arms Industry and a few others.
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I didn't "blame" the Clinton's.

I pointed out that the CIA not only has a long history of nefarious activity...but also have been shown to "cook" intel to the President's beck and call.
I 100% agree about Bush having them cook it up for him. As did Bill Clinton when he ordered missiles fired on Iraq.
That's what the CIA does.

If you guys are all pro-CIA...I don't know what to say about that.
Then just come out and say the Republicans pushed the US into an unwinnable, illegal, pointless war that cost billions and lives to make Iraq a worse place than it was.
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Then just come out and say the Republicans pushed the US into an unwinnable, illegal, pointless war that cost billions and lives to make Iraq a worse place than it was.
The Republicans pushed the US into an unwinnable, illegal, pointless war that cost billions and lives to make Iraq a worse place than it was.

And I'll add: They were joined by Democrats voting for it in the house and Senate that included John Kerry and Hillary Clinton.

But yes...it was Bush who pushed it hard and...THEN used cooked up CIA intelligence to persuade all the Senators and Congressmen.

That's my point on this whole issue.

Suddenly our entire country had developed amnesia and "forgot" what the CIA did for Bush in the last administration.

And now everybody wants to hold hands and believe a politicized "report" from the CIA that shows no proof at all so that Trump's presidency can be de-legitimized politically and the country can remain divided (the one thing that Pres. Obama has done flawlessly)

"The White House fact sheet asserts, the report largely consists of tips to improve cyber security and prevent future attacks, it also appears to cite evidence Russian Intelligence Services (RIS) actively attempted to hack into U.S. systems, a campaign the government has named ?GRIZZLY STEPPE.?

But as the media runs with the story and many outlets accept the 13-page report as fact, veterans of the intelligence community have pointed out flaws with the FBI-DHS analysis.
According to Philip Giraldi, a former CIA agent, the report fails to prove Russia is behind the hack. In a recent Facebook post, he asserted that ?apart from assertions of Russian activity connected to an unnamed political party, [the report] provides absolutely no evidence that the alleged intrusions into the DNC servers were anything beyond normal intelligence agency probing for vulnerabilities.?
'In fact' he adds, 'it doesn?t even provide the evidence for that.'
Further, he argues:
'There is no evidence of particular mal-intent that can be traced back to the Russian government, much less to Vladimir Putin. Nine of the thirteen pages of the report deal with advice on how to keep your system from being hacked.'
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By the way...the media's "knowledge" of all this that they keep reporting as gospel truth?

"a former senior law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the hack investigation told CNN."
Russian hacking and the 2016 election, explained - CNNPolitics.com

That's it.
An unnamed "former law enforcement official"

THAT is what CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, and newspapers that were blatantly anti-Trump are using along with President Obama and his administration just saying it to the press.

Just exactly the same way that the President had all of those media outlets reporting that Benghazi was caused by a "youtube video" when it was already well known to he and Hillary that it was a terrorist attack.
Yet, he still had his people go on all the news shows and repeat that for weeks...and he went on David Letterman's show himself and repeated that lie.

And then...once the election was over and he had beaten Romney...THEN the truth was revealed.

I'm just saying....fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Just think back to how deceptive our federal govt. has been under every President in your lifetime.
This is how they operate. It's disgusting.
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>“GRIZZLY STEPPE.”

"drunk grizzly" - it is 100% russians and persinal putin.
you can see all proof here:
1. vodka
2. bears
Who if not are putin can have it all))
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