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Old 01-28-2017, 11:45 PM   #1
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America is a nation of immigrants

Of course

But not immigrants from Somalia, Sudan, Iraq, Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc...

Why do liberals always say we're a nation of immigrants, which is true, but fail to point out the countries where we came from originally?
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As of 2013 there were 41 million people that were not born in the US residing here

The numbers below do not support your statement as there are foreign born and immigrants from the countries you listed except for Somalia..although that is just because they had less than 50,000 in 2013...There are currently approximately 96,000 Somali born immigrants living here that have entered the US since 2001

And just so there is no confusion - these were all LEGAL entries

Left number is how many foreign born live in the US and right column is how many immigrated from 1986 to 2013

Total foreign born 41,347,945 26,147,963
Mexico 11,584,977 5,551,757
China 2,383,831 1,399,667
India 2,034,677 1,323,011
Philippines 1,843,989 1,480,946
Vietnam 1,281,010 955,967
El Salvador 1,252,067 676,776
Cuba 1,144,024 666,657
South Korea 1,070,335 609,321
Dominican Republic 991,046 904,721
Guatemala 902,293 353,122
Canada 840,192 394,790
Jamaica 714,743 507,741
United Kingdom 695,489 383,037
Colombia 677,231 498,551
Haiti 593,980 536,657
Germany 584,184 192,676
Honduras 533,598 178,321
Peru 440,292 320,611
Poland 432,601 360,669
Ecuador 427,906 243,217
Russia 390,934 476,306
Iran 363,972 358,586
Italy 354,305 69,111
Ukraine 345,187 306,203
Pakistan 342,603 347,237
Japan 339,970 172,893
Brazil 337,040 214,266
Guyana 259,815 214,995
Nicaragua 240,619 191,701
Nigeria 234,465 227,497
Thailand 233,547 174,168
Trinidad and Tobago 232,026 157,689
Bangladesh 203,179 215,164
Iraq 200,894 153,897
Venezuela 197,724 143,411
Laos 196,154 110,235
Ethiopia 195,805 202,518
Portugal 182,473 53,831
Egypt 176,443 153,755
France 170,394 87,601
Argentina 170,086 98,999
Cambodia 164,746 106,183
Romania 157,302 140,887
Ghana 149,377 130,542
Greece 137,084 37,406
Republic of Ireland 128,350 104,586
Israel 127,079 106,568
Lebanon 124,256 113,727
Burma 116,775 94,792
Bosnia and Herzegovina 112,240 129,481
Kenya 110,678 92,891
Turkey 109,667 85,415
Spain 102,475 41,328
Panama 101,024 57,628
Chile 97,585 54,573
South Africa 95,191 69,992
Indonesia 94,600 61,493
Saudi Arabia 88,894 n/a
Nepal 87,456 58,841
Netherlands 85,085 35,117
Albania 81,047 84,031
Bolivia 79,924 52,177
Armenia 79,122 62,201
Syria 78,934 68,864
Liberia 78,909 74,632
Australia 78,797 12,926
Costa Rica 78,659 47,648
Hungary 74,213 31,365
Malaysia 68,956 n/a
Bulgaria 67,941 68,768
Afghanistan 67,169 59,480
Jordan 65,618 104,168
Czech Republic 64,354 27,354
Morocco 63,798 76,622
Barbados 52,499 25,444
Sri Lanka 51,268 51,675
Belarus 50,934 58,254
Belize 50,296 n/a
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As of 2013 there were 41 million people that were not born in the US residing here

The numbers below do not support your statement as there are foreign born and immigrants from the countries you listed except for Somalia..although that is just because they had less than 50,000 in 2013...There are currently approximately 96,000 Somali born immigrants living here that have entered the US since 2001

And just so there is no confusion - these were all LEGAL entries

Left number is how many foreign born live in the US and right column is how many immigrated from 1986 to 2013

Total foreign born 41,347,945 26,147,963
Mexico 11,584,977 5,551,757
China 2,383,831 1,399,667
India 2,034,677 1,323,011
Philippines 1,843,989 1,480,946
Vietnam 1,281,010 955,967
El Salvador 1,252,067 676,776
Cuba 1,144,024 666,657
South Korea 1,070,335 609,321
Dominican Republic 991,046 904,721
Guatemala 902,293 353,122
Canada 840,192 394,790
Jamaica 714,743 507,741
United Kingdom 695,489 383,037
Colombia 677,231 498,551
Haiti 593,980 536,657
Germany 584,184 192,676
Honduras 533,598 178,321
Peru 440,292 320,611
Poland 432,601 360,669
Ecuador 427,906 243,217
Russia 390,934 476,306
Iran 363,972 358,586
Italy 354,305 69,111
Ukraine 345,187 306,203
Pakistan 342,603 347,237
Japan 339,970 172,893
Brazil 337,040 214,266
Guyana 259,815 214,995
Nicaragua 240,619 191,701
Nigeria 234,465 227,497
Thailand 233,547 174,168
Trinidad and Tobago 232,026 157,689
Bangladesh 203,179 215,164
Iraq 200,894 153,897
Venezuela 197,724 143,411
Laos 196,154 110,235
Ethiopia 195,805 202,518
Portugal 182,473 53,831
Egypt 176,443 153,755
France 170,394 87,601
Argentina 170,086 98,999
Cambodia 164,746 106,183
Romania 157,302 140,887
Ghana 149,377 130,542
Greece 137,084 37,406
Republic of Ireland 128,350 104,586
Israel 127,079 106,568
Lebanon 124,256 113,727
Burma 116,775 94,792
Bosnia and Herzegovina 112,240 129,481
Kenya 110,678 92,891
Turkey 109,667 85,415
Spain 102,475 41,328
Panama 101,024 57,628
Chile 97,585 54,573
South Africa 95,191 69,992
Indonesia 94,600 61,493
Saudi Arabia 88,894 n/a
Nepal 87,456 58,841
Netherlands 85,085 35,117
Albania 81,047 84,031
Bolivia 79,924 52,177
Armenia 79,122 62,201
Syria 78,934 68,864
Liberia 78,909 74,632
Australia 78,797 12,926
Costa Rica 78,659 47,648
Hungary 74,213 31,365
Malaysia 68,956 n/a
Bulgaria 67,941 68,768
Afghanistan 67,169 59,480
Jordan 65,618 104,168
Czech Republic 64,354 27,354
Morocco 63,798 76,622
Barbados 52,499 25,444
Sri Lanka 51,268 51,675
Belarus 50,934 58,254
Belize 50,296 n/a
According to that list, a whole 3rd world is moving there. Should I say "good luck" or it will be too incongruously here?
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White Americans are the racial majority, with a 77.7% share of the U.S. population. African Americans are the largest racial minority, amounting to 13.2% of the population. Hispanic and Latino Americans amount to 17.1% of the population, making up the largest ethnic minority.

Many came from Africa and Hispanic countries -- but so what?

Public Overestimates U.S. Black and Hispanic Populations | Gallup

8th generation white Americans are not that bright as a group -- deevolution maybe?
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Old 01-29-2017, 09:45 AM   #6
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US is a nation of immigrants, period. Doesn't matter from which country. "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free....."
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Because you have no merit whatsoever being born in Italy or Germany and not Sudan. Pure luck.
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My grandmother came to the United States shortly after the end of WW2 after the Nazis killed her entire family. Imagine if the US Government denied her access to the US because she "might be a Nazi".
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Because you have no merit whatsoever being born in Italy or Germany and not Sudan. Pure luck.
but if you could choose? which one and why?
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Because you have no merit whatsoever being born in Italy or Germany and not Sudan. Pure luck.
But you have higher chance of being a rapist if you are born in Sudan than if you are born in Germany.
So it is only natural and logical all things being equal to prefer German than Sudanese immigrating.
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My grandmother came to the United States shortly after the end of WW2 after the Nazis killed her entire family. Imagine if the US Government denied her access to the US because she "might be a Nazi".
She would have gone to Israel, or possibly Canada.
If you wonder why the Israeli army is so brutal -- many soldiers and particularly the officer corps' parents or grandparents survived the Nazi Camps -- losing is not an option
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My grandmother came to the United States shortly after the end of WW2 after the Nazis killed her entire family. Imagine if the US Government denied her access to the US because she "might be a Nazi".
Serisoely? You are comparing ideology with a race difference?

Germans (if I understand good) before Nazis took power shared mostly same or similar values like US or the rest of christian world. Araba have completely different culture and things are even worse because it is 2017 now, age of information and technologies. Still, they are beheading people,stoning women, denying their rights and arer very aggresive toward other cultures. We are not talking about buddhists here.
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Yes, lets force the USA and all of the other western nations to have open borders to take in a flood of refugees from places so culturally dissimilar that the culture of the west will soon be replaced.

Meanwhile the 5 wealthiest Gulf nations refuse to take in any refugees because they see them as a security threat.

Once western culture is routed and dismantled we will be left with islamic culture as the dominant culture in the world. Good luck with that.




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She would have gone to Israel, or possibly Canada.
If you wonder why the Israeli army is so brutal -- many soldiers and particularly the officer corps' parents or grandparents survived the Nazi Camps -- losing is not an option
BTW, about 25% of Israelis are immigrants from Russia Israel has a visa free regime with Russia. Many citizens speak Russian natively, there are newspapers and lots of other things are also used to be written in Russian. If a Russian travels to Israel, he feels it like home





You will see the same picture in Brooklyn on the Brighton Beach which is mostly populated by the Jewish immigrants from the USSR. The funny thing is that they don't want to integrate and to change. They have escaped from the USSR but they took the USSR into the States. When a modern Russian enters that district in NYC, he thinks: "WTF is this? Do they have a time machine? It's like I was sent to the Soviet Union of 70's."



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US is a nation of immigrants, period. Doesn't matter from which country. "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free....."
Yes, it does matter which country they came from

If the USA was 80% somalian immigrants how the fuck do you think the country would look like? America or somalia?
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Immigration should only be allowed from western european countries and should only be allowed to the creme de la creme...why in the fuck would we allow these low IQ people who come over here, go on welfare and have 10 kids

WHY IN GODS NAME does ANYONE support that?! Just tell me WHY? How brainwashed must you be?
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65% of syrian refugees are ILLITERATE IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE WTF?! How are they going to add ANY benefit to the USA? unreal
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BTW, about 25% of Israelis are immigrants from Russia Israel has a visa free regime with Russia.
I lived near Ashdod where many Russian immigrants were settling -- this is not news to me ...
Many those Russians turned out not to be Jews they just wanted the Fuck out of the USSR.
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Immigration should only be allowed from western european countries and should only be allowed to the creme de la creme...why in the fuck would we allow these low IQ people who come over here, go on welfare and have 10 kids

WHY IN GODS NAME does ANYONE support that?! Just tell me WHY? How brainwashed must you be?
There are few explanations (categories) of people who support that:

1. People with personal interest (having someone there or planing to come to USA)
2. People with migrant heritage and they found that someone is talking against them and their ancesstors (which is tottaly stupid btw)
3. Stupid people (not educated enough or with a lack of experience)
4. Mentally retarded
5. People who think that they should be against anything coming from the political party they don't support, even if it is good.
6. Add whetever I've missed.
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Those on the left don't care at all about refugees. They are just doing things for virtue signaling and fake charity...they could help WAY more refugees by resettling them in the middle east
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I lived near Ashdod where many Russian immigrants were settling -- this is not news to me ...
Many those Russians turned out not to be Jews they just wanted the Fuck out of the USSR.
You are wrong here. In 70's only Jews were able to leave the country (don't you know they are the God's chosen nation?) Ethnic Russians had no right to relocate form the USSR. So they are not Russians. They are Jews and they are Soviets. So in fact, the people you are used to call Russians are not Russians at all ;)

As the chief of NYPD said in some Discovery documentary, the Russian mafia of NYC is a name of the criminals of mostly Jewish nationality who came from the USSR (not just from Russia but from all the former Soviet republics) in 70's. You will barely meet an ethnic Russian living in Brooklyn...

When a Russian Mafia Is Not a Russian Mafia - people of Jewish nationality were the only who had a privilege to leave the Soviet Union (thanks to Jackson–Vanik amendment).

P.S. The Soviet Union was established due to the Communist Revolution. You will be surprised, but almost all the Communist leaders (including Lenin and Trotsky) were not Russians. They were ethnic Jews that lived in Russia. Actually if you read anything about WWII, you must know that Hitler hated Jews because he has considered them commies. He has turned into an antisemite after a commie coup attempt in his motherland Bavaria, because most of commie leaders were ethnic Jews. That event has created a strong dependence in his head: "Jews=Communists" and that's written in his book...
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You are wrong here. In 70's only Jews were able to leave the country (don't you know they are chosen nation?) Russians had no right to relocate form the USSR. So they are not Russians. They are Jews and they are Soviets.

As the chief of NYPD said in some Discovery documentary, the Russian mafia of NYC is a name of the criminals of mostly Jewish nationality who came from the USSR (not Russia but all the former Soviet republics). You will barely meet an ethnic Russian living in Brooklyn...

When a Russian Mafia Is Not a Russian Mafia
Didn't knew that but sounds logical.
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Didn't knew that but sounds logical.
That was a result of Jackson–Vanik amendment. As an example: Sergey Brin (Google). The Americans call him Russian, but he is not. He is an ethnic Jew and a son of immigrants from the Soviet Union. He is one of the chosen ones that were allowed to leave the USSR.

I'm not an antisemite and I even have some % of Jewish blood in my veins, but I did never understand it... They have initiated the commie coup of 1917 in Russia and they were the first and the only ones who've got a right to run off the Soviet regime. How come?

Go to Brooklyn and you will meet the the classic Soviet people there. Go to the modern Russia and nothing will remind you about communists (formally we have such a party, but they have no support and they just a bunch of clowns). A very interesting fact, isn't it? Maybe because all the real commies have relocated from Russia to Israel and the USA...
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My grandmother came to the United States shortly after the end of WW2 after the Nazis killed her entire family. Imagine if the US Government denied her access to the US because she "might be a Nazi".
No need to imagine :

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In a highly publicized event in May–June 1939, the United States refused to admit over 900 Jewish refugees who had sailed from Hamburg, Germany, on the St. Louis. The St. Louis appeared off the coast of Florida shortly after Cuban authorities cancelled the refugees' transit visas and denied entry to most of the passengers, who were still waiting to receive visas to enter the United States. Denied permission to land in the United States, the ship was forced to return to Europe.

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article...uleId=10005139
BTW , most of these refugees died in concentration camps .....

Don't forget , the USA at that time were anti-semite , including Prescott Bush
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The USA was founded by white western europeans...it is a white western european society based on the ideas of FREEDOM and limited government. However, since we've switched our immigration policy to the middle east and africa for some ungodly reason, our country has been in decline since. Debt is piling up, government is out of control, wars here and there. We need to get back to our foundation and only let people in who believe in western european values or otherwise we'll start to look like Syria or Somolia
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My grandmother came to the United States shortly after the end of WW2 after the Nazis killed her entire family. Imagine if the US Government denied her access to the US because she "might be a Nazi".
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I´m amazed you didn´t suggest women only

one world, we all live in the same world, a modern world. I can´t believe there are still people so separated & so ignorant
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I´m amazed you didn´t suggest women only

one world, we all live in the same world, a modern world. I can´t believe there are still people so separated & so ignorant
Germany is not Somalia
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You really believe that bullshit?
If you were circumcised and could pay the bribe money they would stamp your papers Jew and shipped you out of the USSR.


Getting out was about bribing the right people.

Lenin wasn't a Jew Trotsky was.
The Jews hated the Czar.
My Maternal Grandfather was drafted for life for the crime of being a blacksmith and a Jew. He deserted the Tzar's Army and came to America with his wife in 1905.
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Why are we talking about jews in this thread?
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You really believe that bullshit?
If you were circumcised and could pay the bribe money they would stamp your papers Jew and shipped you out of the USSR.


Getting out was about bribing the right people.

Lenin wasn't a Jew Trotsky was.
The Jews hated the Czar.
My Maternal Grandfather was drafted for life for the crime of being a blacksmith and a Jew. He deserted the Tzar's Army and came to America with his wife in 1905.
The Lenin's mother was an ethnic Jew (according to one of a few versions). BTW, Karl Marx was a jew as well.

As about bribes to change the nationality. That didn't work in the USSR. The nationality was written in both your birth certificate and your passport (every Soviet citizen had to have it). You were unable to change it. It was like a mark burned out at your skin. In the modern Russia the nationality is not included into your ID's, so you can take any.

Also if you didn't know, Soviet Jews had no right to move directly to the USA. They had a right to move to Israel only and then after that they could move to the States. But to move to Israel, they had to prove they are Jews to the Israeli migration authorities and get a visa (there was a visa regime between the USSR and Israel). Thus giving a bribe to someone in the USSR won't solve the second problem.

That's why the residents of Brighton Beach are not Russians. They are Soviet Jews.

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Because the USA is a country of immigrants and Jews are not the last ones in the US population list
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The op and others like him should be a warning to americans about what happens with all the inbreeding occuring in the hollers of kentucky and other red states
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What bullshit. They should revise that shit for today's America.

Hasn't been like that for a long time now anyway.

I say ban them all.

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Just like the Third Reich the USSR stamped your ethnicity on your passport and identification papers -- how nice. Yes, another Third Reich law if your grandmother was a Jew -- you are a Jew -- and you were sent to a death camp. Strange rationale indeed.
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Just like the Third Reich the USSR stamped your ethnicity on your passport and identification papers -- how nice. Yes, another Third Reich law if your grandmother was a Jew -- you are a Jew -- and you were sent to a death camp. Strange rationale indeed.
During the WWII the local American Japans were sent to concentration camps. Simple because they... were ethnic Japanese. The Chinese and Korean Americans had to wear special badges to show they are not Japanese. So sending Jews to camps just because they are Jews is bad, but sending Japanese to camps because they are Japanese is good? Is that your logic? So how the US laws were different to the Third Reich ones then?
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Immigration should only be allowed from western european countries and should only be allowed to the creme de la creme...why in the fuck would we allow these low IQ people who come over here, go on welfare and have 10 kids

WHY IN GODS NAME does ANYONE support that?! Just tell me WHY? How brainwashed must you be?
You have a low IQ president who think it's a good idea to block immigration from random countries. Terrorists go into Syria to fight against the regime, the only people running from there are the one running away from the war.
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Let's do one thing

Let's do one thing.

All the Hollywood idiots, screwed intellectuals and CNN Journalists should be ordered to have at least 10 to 15 Somalian/Iranian/Iraqi refugees in their home.

Then, they will realize what the real problem is.

Looking at the videos, Trump is doing the right thing, only thing is that our peace loving society who is living in a glass house not able to realize it.

The french video was really disturbing. I wonder why BBC/Al Jazeera never reported it.
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Looking at the videos, Trump is doing the right thing, only thing is that our peace loving society who is living in a glass house not able to realize it.
Indeed: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...mp-stupid.html
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Let's do one thing.

All the Hollywood idiots, screwed intellectuals and CNN Journalists should be ordered to have at least 10 to 15 Somalian/Iranian/Iraqi refugees in their home.

Then, they will realize what the real problem is.

Looking at the videos, Trump is doing the right thing, only thing is that our peace loving society who is living in a glass house not able to realize it.

The french video was really disturbing. I wonder why BBC/Al Jazeera never reported it.
Yup

And guys like Michael Moore as well who own 13 homes. How many syrian and somalian refugees can he house? Of course they people don't really care about refugees. They're just virtue signaling and they have a false sense of altruism. Talking about taking people in makes THEM feel good...it's all they care about is boosting their own ego and sounding good vs actually helping. You can help like 10 x more refugees by settling them in the middle east, so why arent the shitlibs talking about doing that?
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All the Hollywood idiots, screwed intellectuals and CNN Journalists should be ordered to have at least 10 to 15 Somalian/Iranian/Iraqi refugees in their home.
You are very stupid. You need to join the army and go kill the enemy overseas. I'll sponsor you.

Over the years I've posted here many times of my best friend growing up being a refugee from Iran, we had a few of them in our small neighborhood. Really awesome, cool loving people. The father was a dentist and the father of another kid was a carpenter.

And you talk about them like they are fucking animals. You are an idiot that has no personal knowledge or experience with the dogma spewing out of your mouth.
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During the WWII the local American Japans were sent to concentration camps. Simple because they... were ethnic Japanese. The Chinese and Korean Americans had to wear special badges to show they are not Japanese. So sending Jews to camps just because they are Jews is bad, but sending Japanese to camps because they are Japanese is good? Is that your logic? So how the US laws were different to the Third Reich ones then?
We didn't mass murder them like a Hitler or Stalin would of.

What we did was shameful -- I won't defend it. But it is so Trumpanzee like -- quite frankly it is scary . America is still that same ugly place after all of these years.
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We better start waking up and waking up fast. The invasion is full steam ahead
again, there are 5 examples of terrorists moving into other countries, even with borders, they would still find a way.

our ghosts, cia, mi5, move from country to country without no one knowing who they are...

In the 80s and 90s it was big problems in Ireland, are all the Irish IRA? The reason for so much radicalisation is the propaganda & stereotyping of a religion & look.



A group of hoodies make the little old lady walk the other way in the UK, yet those hoodies could be the nicest group of savours on our planet. Do not judge people by the way they look & their religion.
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