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Nah, no attacks in the last 70 years....rofl

thommy

no - i mean attacked by a foreign army on the US continent.

you can not see 9/11 as a military attack. it was no military attack and all weapons in the world did not prevent it and could not prevent it.

so before pushing money in an attack what is not existing why not pushing money in the environment? that would make sense, kills nobody and produce a lot of jobs were the us technology knowledge would be an advantage.
ahhh but i forgot - trump own oil pipelines and no alternative energy firm - what a mess.

when you listen also to his statement were he said "we have to win wars again" he mentioned that us before always have won wars. that is also NOT TRUE.
US never won a war without alliance. not the first and not the second worldwar was won by US. it was an alliance who won this wars.

so i would like to know WHAT war he means when he said "before US never lost a war"...wich one was that? the war against england?
or does he mean the civil war where HIS SPECIES lost?

he can not mean vietnam or korea he can also not mean irak or afganistan. kuba? nicaragua? laos? libanon ?
wich one does he mean?

and he complains that 6 trillion dollars went into lost wars - yes true - but why not stop the wars then?

that war thing does not make sense - it was always a war between russia and the usa but only with a lot of deads and not with a winner.
someone who can not overview this history should not be a president. but who knows - maybe he have some kind of participation in a coffin factory.

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Stop letting "them" into this country and no attacks like 9/11 will occur...they do not assimilate, and immigration without assimilation is invasion! I am totally against war. We need STRONG borders and need to cease immigration for 5-10 years right NOW. Then after that time span, only let in the absolute best people from western european countries

thommy

After this handle in the toilette, you should actually embarrass yourself

but as flu fluids do not know that they are diseases, dumps do not know that they are stupid

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thommy's never heard of 9/11 until i had to tell him

Barry-xlovecam

Trump is living in the past and is not a very good student of the past.

The last real war the USA won was the Second World War.
The problem is that Trump does understand that; conventional wars are a thing of the past -- but his Trumpanzees have not accepted this.

All he doing is just rattling the Trumpanzee cage, and 'somehow', and yet to be disclosed, profits by this.

Maybe, he gets away with it or maybe Trump goes down -- time will tell.

Trump has challenged the world -- the world will eat him for dinner. It will be scary or fun to watch depending on where you sit at the table.

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wrong again

thommy

i think the much more efficient way would be to throw people like you out - then nobody have a reason to terrorize the US anymore and all is fine. after, the USA could invest trillions of dollars in the prosperity of the country instead of stupid war materials.
And then you can stay in Africa and continue to doubt the climate change.

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Nope, what you are suggesting is very Hitler-esq, thommy boy

BlackCrayon

But you previously said 911 was an inside job.

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The Japanese also dropped bombs on the North West. Not effectively but still an attack on the CONUS. The Japanese also attacked the West coast by submarine on two different occasions. In all there were at least five attacks launched against the CONUS.

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thommy isn't exactly a historian! ROFL

thommy

i am sorry - that is also not true.
USA was a part of an alliance of FIFTY nations including russia and china againt hitlers thirs reich and japan.
Especially mention must be made here of the role of china. Because for the help they gave to the USA in the war against Japan, they were officially awarded the island of taiwan in the cairo declaration.

these historical facts are mostly unmentioned when the taiwan topic comes up.

american public only knows that china wants taiwan and usa have to be the hero to prevent that. but that there is a contract, where USA gave them taiwan as thanks for the help against Japan is not part of the discussion.

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Bro, just give it up...seriously

thommy

and that was WHEN ?? can you count that for me in YEARS please ?????

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9/11 was in 2001, thommy boy

Barry-xlovecam

wrong place my bad ;)

thommy

because of WHAT? because an idiot tell me to give up?

tell me FACTS and not bullshit around here - you are with the back at the wall - so come up with facts or YOU GIVE UP !!!
i proved you be a liar and hot air talker!

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9/11/01 you BABOON!

thommy

than look what i wrote in the other thread

9/11 wasn´t a military attack - it was a terror attack and all your weapons will not helo you to prevent that.

that was either a country nor a militant group what represents a country what have done that.

so WHO will you declare a war and WITH WHAT ?????

do you want to use nucles or tanks to go against that?
and WHERE will you throw the bombs ?
did you forget that some of them lived in USA ??? do you want to bomb USA with it you brainless one celler ?

how many years is this "war against terror" now?
and WHAT was reached with it?
do you think there are now less terrorists?
noooooo - there are MUCH MORE and this bullshit produced them !

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Steve Rupe

Virtually everything you said in this post is not true. I think I have told you before that you should educate yourself before you speak.
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wehateporn

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thommy

next one with just blablabla ?

so tell me WHAT is not true you brainhandicapped idiot instead bullshitting.

YOU ARE THE GUYS who talking about WRONG FACTS
so bring me the REAL facts if you have them.


you brain amputated honks have NOTHING but "fake news" or "not true" so IF YOU KNOW THE TRUTH WHY DON`T YOU SHOW IT !

i CAN prove the facts i write here because they are not from ONE RADICAL FASCIST SOURCE. so show me HOW YOU prove

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wehateporn

Shows the damage that can be done with planes

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Poor thommy is so lost

thommy

can you show us also a picture of the weapon what can prevent that ?

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Stop letting them into our country, thommy boy. It's called BORDER SECURITY

thommy

do me a favor - shoot yourself !
the only thing you can is breathing the good air from this planet.

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wehateporn

To prevent a controlled demolition attack one has to have sniffer dogs within the building ensuring that nobody is setting up a controlled demolition.

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Barry-xlovecam

China fell flat on their face -- the Japanese took China before WW2 started in Europe (1939) Taiwan was where General Chan Ki-shek sought haven after his loss to Mao

http://images.library.wisc.edu/FRUS/...9v09.i0016.pdf
https://archive.org/stream/VanSlykeL...01949_djvu.txt
here is the China White paper I assume that is what you refer to -- please quote the lines that cede Taiwan to Mainland (PRC) China ...

16.1 million American soldiers and every factory in America saved Europe and Asia.
Lend Lease cost an enormous amount
War reparations were not totally repaid
Who still owes what for the two World Wars?

My dad and uncles fought in Europe and the Pacific.
Next time maybe the Yankee should just stay home.
You might be still living in the Third Rich that would be all of Europe IDK ...
We have a defensible continent and a substantial nuclear arsenal.
We can raise a 20 million man military if we need to -- why should we sent it overseas?
Trump does have a point on NATO: Europe should bear the costs of its security. The US can offer allegiance, cooperation -- and if need be -- a nuclear shield. Europe needs to be a European problem to be solved by Europeans. I will be in Eastern Europe in a few weeks -- Putin better mind his manners -- LOL

Steve Rupe

I am not going to educate your ignorant ass, but will point out to you when you are ignorant of the facts and need to educate yourself before you post.

pimpmaster9000

the USA lost as much soldiers in WW2 as tiny shit hole yugoslavia did...tourists in the pacific LOL pretending they "won WW2"...what a load of bullshit

fucking hilarious to hear america talk about WW2 like it won it LOL all the USA did was nuke fishermen so that stalin would not defeat germany AND japan...

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pls leave al bundy alone

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thommy

in this you will not find that because it is not the cairo commiique :-) that is a later version what just talks about it.

here is the cairo communiqie (in that time taiwan´s name was still formosa)


USA had one of the biggest parts in that but not the biggest.

the oficial numbers of soldiers in that war have been at the end (1944)
5 Million Brits, 11,2 Million Russians and 14,8 Million US
on the other site where 9,4 Million Germany and 5,3 Million Japanese

we do not have to discuss this horrible part of the history.
I think be both know enough about it that there were many reasons for this war but also no excuses for the cruels hitler did.

but it is always like that that the written history is in favor of the winner and to understand the whole thing is a science today and a lot of scientiests on both sites of the atlantic still have many open questions.

the point about china in that game is, that in that time there was not ONE china and so nobody can really say who is the legit follower of a country what also was important to win the war in the pacific. from end of 1944 the chinese troups started to be successful against the japanese (yes with help from the US) but it is a fact that US and China had the same enemy and where fighting together.
also russian troups where fighting in China against Japan. So at the end of the day it was an alliance and the nuclear bomb what finished that drama. it was not a victory what USA could have without this helpers.

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thommy

so that proves you as blablabla - you do not HAVE facts - that´s what is proved.

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Next time we won't come to the party ...
Humanitarian relief only -- if that means taking some land and resettling refugees -- no one can stop stop us without destroying themselves in the process.
We should have done this in the ISIS mess. Taken land and made a new country -- let the refuges administer it -- then leveled the perimeter for 50 miles into a dead-zone.

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9/11/01

thommy boy was probably getting CUCKED at the time

Barry-xlovecam

The Republic of China is now Taiwan
The Peoples Republic is Communist or mainland (Red) China.

You are absolutely WRONG Google both names. Confusion is understandable but the assertion is ludicrous. One day Taiwan may assume some status like Hong Kong ... IDK

pimpmaster9000

your only possible victory can be a short term military one that will bring decades of "iraq" afterwards and flood europe with refugees...any way you look at it you get fucked right back even if it is by destroying your allies and their economies with your proxy fuck...even if europe builds a wall, other weaker countries around europe will absorb the refugees and fall like dominoes...look at turkey as a great example...going to shit but used to be moderate...

you can never win...you can only waste $$$$$$$$$ to speed up your demise...

its like pissing in the pool...sooner or later the piss is going to come back to you, it does not matter whether you flap your hands and try to make the piss go elsewhere, you are only speeding up the piss and being at the end of the pool does not spare you from what is coming

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TimS

And the Germans fired a live Torpedo into the shoreline of Massachusetts in WW 2.
And yes the Japanese bombed The Aleutian Islands which were part of the Alaskain Territory.
Not defending, just educating, history is a wonderful thing.

Steve Rupe

A misreading by Thommy and a misunderstanding of what the "Cairo" paper is about. As I stated he is ignorant of the facts. This board has a lot of ignorant foreigners that think they know the history of the U.S. and the politics of the U.S. when they simply do not.

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Thommy is a very ignorant old goldfish

Steve Rupe

They also bombed the West Coast, and attacked the West Coast via Submarine.

pimpmaster9000

And I took a shit in Yellowstone you forgot to mention this huge attack on us soil...Oh and an Arab once farted in New York several times this was several chemical attacks at once!

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Freedom6995

False: USA tried to take on Canada in 1812. For the record...they lost.

PR_Glen

you mean unattended fires?

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Rochard

I think you are wrong.

The US Cyber Command is part of the United States Strategic Command and is staffed mostly by the military.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United..._Cyber_Command

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Dude ... NATO turned your village into a parking lot ... We could have turned your homeland into glass in 5 minutes. You were defenseless twerps.

There is no victory in the Middle East. Trump may just flatten half of it and that will not solve the problem. Like pouring diesel into the ant nest and lighting a match -- the ants come back eventually ...

Barry-xlovecam

Read more carefully -- I am talking about civilian and commercial infrastructure.
Trillions of dollars are involved DAILY -- banks, financial exchanges and e-commerce. Utilities and water resource management.

AWS may have gone down by an amplified UDP packet attack this week -- the reason mysteriously "undisclosed". Many data sites are experiencing NTP amplified ddos attack as we speak.

These are REAL threats not some imagined ISIS Terrorist attack on US soil -- the government is useless. Look how the US political parties servers got hacked -- you can be sure that is only the tip of the iceberg. This isn't CT theory ...