California please explain yourself for this

[onwebcam]

"The American people and Members have a right to know the full impact of this legislation before any vote in Committee or by the whole House."

Nancy Pelosi

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...in-it-n2297266

[~Ray]

I hate her. She is right, but, I hate her.

Ray
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[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by ~Ray

I hate her. She is right, but, I hate her.

Ray
hardlinks.org

Which time was she right?

[Rochard]

She is right.

This is not a Republican vs Democrat thing. The bills have become so complicated and have so many details that just to fully understand what they are are passing they would have to dedicate a large number of their staff months to investigate it.... Just to figure out what it is.

This is why they say "making laws is like making sausages". No one knows what really goes into them.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

She is right.

This is not a Republican vs Democrat thing. The bills have become so complicated and have so many details that just to fully understand what they are are passing they would have to dedicate a large number of their staff months to investigate it.... Just to figure out what it is.

This is why they say "making laws is like making sausages". No one knows what really goes into them.

Which time was she right? Amazing that both of you missed her being two-faced which was the point of this thread.. Do you not remember "we'll read it after it's passed Pelosi?"

[oppoten]

yes we can

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Which time was she right? Amazing that both of you missed her being two-faced which was the point of this thread.. Do you not remember "we'll read it after it's passed Pelosi?"

So Pelosi has evolved since then, almost a decade ago, and learned from her mistakes, knowing the damage an unread healthcare bill can do.

But you position Pelosi as being two faced, instead of her learning and evolving and you don't even mention that the Republicans complaing back then about not reading the Obamacare bill, who now know the damage not reading a bill can do, don't give a shit and are pushing their bill through, unread, giving a bullshit "obamacare is collapsing" excuse to the American people.

Why do you do that?

You are slanting reality and not focussing on the lie your GOP congress is feeding the American people. Why?

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

So Pelosi has evolved since then, almost a decade ago, and learned from her mistakes, knowing the damage an unread healthcare bill can do.

But you position Pelosi as being two faced, instead of her learning and evolving and you don't even mention that the Republicans complaing back then about not reading the Obamacare bill, who now know the damage not reading a bill can do, don't give a shit and are pushing their bill through, unread, giving a bullshit "obamacare is collapsing" excuse to the American people.

Why do you do that?

You are slanting reality and not focussing on the lie your GOP congress is feeding the American people. Why?

She hasn't changed one bit. I, like Trump, believe that Rand Paul has the only sensible bill. Which none of the establishment on both sides will even discuss...

[shiraz9944]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

So Pelosi has evolved since then, almost a decade ago, and learned from her mistakes, knowing the damage an unread healthcare bill can do.

But you position Pelosi as being two faced, instead of her learning and evolving and you don't even mention that the Republicans complaing back then about not reading the Obamacare bill, who now know the damage not reading a bill can do, don't give a shit and are pushing their bill through, unread, giving a bullshit "obamacare is collapsing" excuse to the American people.

Why do you do that?

You are slanting reality and not focussing on the lie your GOP congress is feeding the American people. Why?

A decade dude? She said this in 2013 to get the ACA passed before midterms when they got crushed and wouldn't be able to, that's why they rammed it thru, it wouldn't have passed if they waited til 2014. The ACA is crap, it doesn't matter what you guys say it is. My premium went up 300%, I lost my doctor, and my deductible is triple as well. Well done well done indeed. Should just sign up for medical and get it all for free since 1/3 of all California is on it. Those of you that live here in Cali know this to be true, BC and BS aren't accepted by Sutter health or most private doctors, united healthcare isn't either and kaiser is only to be used at Kaiser LOL. Those are your three options, that's it. You get to choose 1 of those three in California, and nobody accepts them unless you buy the platinum plan for about 500 a month.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

She hasn't changed one bit.

Why are you lying?

You just said her wanting to read an important bill today is wrong because your GOP is trying to push this mystery bill that gives over $700 billion in tax breaks to the 1%.

His on earth can you say Pelosi was evil before for pushing a bill through, and evil now for wanting Americans to know what being voted on and where their tax dollars are going? You are irrational & illogical.

Due process is the American way and Pelosi is being a patriot by wanting the American people, and legislature, to know what's being voted on.

But to the Republican in Tennessee Pelosi is evil for wanting transparancy in government.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by shiraz9944

A decade dude? She said this in 2013 to get the ACA passed before midterms when they got crushed and wouldn't be able to, that's why they rammed it thru, it wouldn't have passed if they waited til 2014. The ACA is crap, it doesn't matter what you guys say it is. My premium went up 300%, I lost my doctor, and my deductible is triple as well. Well done well done indeed. Should just sign up for medical and get it all for free since 1/3 of all California is on it. Those of you that live here in Cali know this to be true, BC and BS aren't accepted by Sutter health or most private doctors, united healthcare isn't either and kaiser is only to be used at Kaiser LOL. Those are your three options, that's it. You get to choose 1 of those three in California, and nobody accepts them unless you buy the platinum plan for about 500 a month.

Ok so she evolved in 4 years instead of almost 10 , she's still doing the right thing now and being a patriot helping the American people understand what's in the bill.

Nowbody knows what the new bill will evolve into for Americans health but we do know it gives $700billion in tax breaks to the top 1% and the GOP said those tax breaks are non negotiable.

I'm in Southern California (SouthEast Orange county) a Republican district, and we have 6 insurers to choose from, and my deductible didn't change & premium increased a little over $50.

Let me guess... You're a Republican right? Only reason you're in the same state with a wildly different negative experience within the exact same system.

All of these insurers provide insurance here in California under the ACA. Not sure why you're saying there's only 3. I have Blue Cross they're great. Same doctor I've had for years and my dentist I've had for years is accepted on my Blue Cross dental plan.

Anthem Blue Cross.
Blue Shield of California.
Chinese Community Health Plan.
Kaiser Permanente of CA.
Oscar Health Plan of California.
Sharp Health Plan.
Western Health Advantage.

All of the above insurers are available in California through ACA

[Paul Markham]

Do politicians understand what they're voting for?

[OneHungLo]

The most sickening thing about this is that these political hacks all get free healthcare.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

The most sickening thing about this is that these political hacks all get free healthcare.

Yeah fuck them all

[pimpmaster9000]

you can only imagine how dishonest US foreign policy is when the domestic affairs are so fucked up...

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Do you not remember "we'll read it after it's passed Pelosi?"

No, I do not. I do not follow Pelosi.

She said: "The American people and Members have a right to know the full impact of this legislation before any vote in Committee or by the whole House."

I am not seeing the issue here. Members of Congress should be able to research bills before they are voted on.

[Joshua G]

the ignorance expressed by dumb libs in this thread should embarrass themselves...but no!

you have the #2 dumbest lib at GFY, who cant figure out when pelosi was being a flaming hypocrite...

then you have the #1 dumbest lib on GFY, who says, i dont know about her hypocrisy, i dont even follow her. has no clue what the leader of his party from his own state says! i got a hundred bucks that says he voted for her too!

you libs are dumb as pet rocks! no wonder the kardasians are worth a hundred mil.

[PornDiscounts-V]

Originally Posted by shiraz9944

A decade dude? She said this in 2013 to get the ACA passed before midterms when they got crushed and wouldn't be able to, that's why they rammed it thru, it wouldn't have passed if they waited til 2014. The ACA is crap, it doesn't matter what you guys say it is. My premium went up 300%, I lost my doctor, and my deductible is triple as well. Well done well done indeed. Should just sign up for medical and get it all for free since 1/3 of all California is on it. Those of you that live here in Cali know this to be true, BC and BS aren't accepted by Sutter health or most private doctors, united healthcare isn't either and kaiser is only to be used at Kaiser LOL. Those are your three options, that's it. You get to choose 1 of those three in California, and nobody accepts them unless you buy the platinum plan for about 500 a month.

$500 is nothing really when it comes to health insurance. I've had real health insurance since around 1998. It has been going up the entire time. Actually saw it decrease in price with ACA.

Why did yours go up? Because you probably didn't realize your plan would shit on you if you needed cancer treatment or a triple bypass. ACA mandated that all insurance cover everything. You are getting what you are paying for now.

[poncabare]

She's a moron

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

No, I do not. I do not follow Pelosi.

She said: "The American people and Members have a right to know the full impact of this legislation before any vote in Committee or by the whole House."

I am not seeing the issue here. Members of Congress should be able to research bills before they are voted on.

Read the article or watch the video below that comment.....

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Ok so she evolved in 4 years instead of almost 10 , she's still doing the right thing now and being a patriot helping the American people understand what's in the bill.

Oh so she evolved in the last 4 years. She didn't evolve at all the 20 years before that. 24 fucking years to figure out you need read bills before voting on them. You keep on believing that lie you're telling yourself buddy.