Originally Posted by 12clicks

its incredible how truly gullible the leftist bottom is.

Originally Posted by Joshua G

local farms use pesticides too dumb dumb. its like your politics come out of a coloring book.

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

I am asking you is a persons right to a job is more important that your right (and the rights of your kids and grandkids) to clean air and

water. Is it?

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

So, you never needed a computer in your home until IBM (or Radio Shack, or Comodore, or Atari), convinced you that you did?

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

No. Apple and other tech companies made interesting items that they hoped people would buy. Apples advertising makes their products look

cool, but I think they make them look simple and carefree. And isn't that what you want? A device that's simple to use?

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

I have a comfortable home, in a great, mostly progressive & liberal country. I'm 2 minutes away from a river where I jog or bike several days

a week. There are geese and ducks flying around here who make the coolest sounds. I'm 60 minutes away from beautiful mountains with green trees and blue lakes. I work

hard all winter so I can spend as much time outside in the summer as I can. If you've never experienced Montreal in the Summer, you have no idea what you're missing.

(Babes. Babes everywhere. omg...)

Beauty is all around you, especially I'm sure, in your kids and grandkids eyes. Of course I'm sure you are at least seeing it there. Is that beauty not worth

protecting sir?

What I would suggest is that you take a few weekends off and go camping if you can. Seriously.

In fact, you should go by yourself. Catch a few fish, be quiet, and just think. If you can camp in the mountains, bring a small telescope and check out the night sky.

Set an alarm to wake up at 3am, and then go sit by the lake. You will hear the forest begin to wake up about an hour before sunrise. It's the coolest most amazing

thing, and it really helps you to "reset".

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Drone pilots aren't interested in you. Flying a drone is a really fun hobby.

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

I was born just prior to the start of WW2 and I can't count how many times I've heard that the world was going to end and it never has. But while we're on the subject let's be honest here...

All of this polluting shit was NOT invented or built by the stupid simpletons like me. Everything from the nuclear bomb to genetically modified food was built by the so-called "smart people." In fact it's these smart people who are the smart asses that also cause all the problems in the world including war, genocides, etc.


I have had to live and survive in this world and the same goes for my children, my grandchildren and my great grandchildren. Even the porn industry has been destroyed by smart asses and my money isn't going to last forever. So what I want for them is to survive just like I did.






I actually get a kick out of you so I kind of like you and therefore please don't take this as me trying to engage you in a pissing match. But you're a troll and I'm going to go out on a limb here but I get the feeling that in real life you're pretty socially awkward. So you talk about how beautiful this world is but how much time do you really spend in it?

I've been in jail, almost died from an overdose, knocked up a couple of women and had the shit kicked out of me. But I've also hitched hiked the entire hippy trail, got stoned at the Monterey pop festival, participated in the 68 Paris riots and fucked both Claudine Beccaire and Seka. Therefore let me say I know first hand just how beautiful the world is and I really would love to do everything I did one more time.

You never knew that you needed a tablet so thin that you could slice bread until some smart ass at Apple computers convinced you that you did.

No one ever asked you what you wanted and they never gave you a chance to learn about your options. Instead they just found ways to make gullible and the fearful people believe that their lives were going to somehow be better if they purchased their shit. Unfortunately in doing so they also made the world into a sort of dictatorship where anyone that just wants to survive needs to purchase their stupid crap because everyone else is using it.

Trust me if I could... I would love to walk away from all this fucked up bullshit and go live in harmony with nature. But unfortunately some cocksucker on a powertrip would locate me with a drone and armed cops would come to chase me off.

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

Let me tell you where I'm coming from and why I believe that this entire "We're running out of clean air and water" is just a fiasco.

My father was a world war 1 vet. He never let any of us his forget that he was an orphan in France and that he was only 14 years old when he fought in the battle of Verdun. The man was strict and he handled every problem the same way, with brutality. After the war he immigrated to Canada and hooked up with my mother who really wasn't much better. I'm the youngest of 5 brothers and our parents taught us about life with a backhand or a belt across our bare asses.

They were tough people because they had to be and they taught us how to work hard, clean up after ourselves and make do with what we had. It's an attitude that I really don't see a lot of these days. In fact most people are just self-centered assholes that throw their crap everywhere without ever respecting what they have or ever worrying about other people.

Now in my home my dishes are at least 40 years old. I can afford new dishes but why should I waste my money buying new ones when these are still perfectly good? Why should I contribute to mass consumerism gone awry? The same can be said for my old TV, my old couch, etc. To be blunt, I don't want what I don't really need.

I also don't have a problem with hard work. So my renewable green technology is my 2 hands and I use them to do things like hang up my clothing on a clothesline outside instead of an energy consuming dryer. I also fix things that are broken instead of throwing them out and I learn to use what I have in new ways.

I've also lived through the communist threat, possible nuclear war, Y2K, war on terror, man made climate change, etc. If there's one thing I've learned is that when a threat is actually real, the government/establishment doesn't stand around bitching about. Instead they move like lightening and start issuing orders for what needs to be done. ie. They don't ask and they don't beg - They tell everyone what needs to be done and that's the end of conversation.

Even governments that hate each other quickly put aside their differences when there's a real threat of some kind. You don't need to look at world war 2 to see examples of what I'm talking about, you can look at what's going on today. When it's in their best interests the worst of enemies become best friends real fast.

So believe me if man made climate change was real the world wouldn't be negotiating or trying to implement carbon taxes. Instead they would put an end to whatever was causing the problem without further apologies or discussion.




Nope and in fact I still don't have a use for the crap because my brain works faster than my fingers can type.

Why I own some of this crap is because what happened is the business environment changed and I'm not talking about Tube sites, DVDs, VHS tapes, super 8 films or 35mm cinema productions. I've watched what used to be savvy businessmen turn into complete morons just because they "got computers" or "got several sites up." They neglected their consumer base, destroyed their product lines and forgot everything they knew about running a business.

Unfortunately because I had to continue dealing with these idiots I had to "upgrade" my business. Not that it was upgrading in order to remain competitive but in order to get these dummies to respond to my communications. eg. First I could get them on the phone but that changed to send them an email and wait several hours for a response. Later it changed to contact them by Facebook and now it's send me a text message but please don't phone me or if you need a fast response try me on twitter.

For every dime today's porn industry makes we used to make $50 bucks. The money has shrunk while the jizz biz has become saturated with product, wanna-be-players and scam artists. What little money is left is controlled by a very very small number of people.




Apple is just another multinational corporation hustling their crap on the public. Apple does NOTcare about you... Or me... Or the workers in China who make their crap... Or the child slave labor mining the minerals for their crap from the unsafe mines in the Congo... Or the E-waste they dump in Botswana. The only people Apple cares about are their stockholders.

Anyone that buys their products and therefore puts money into the pockets of multinational corporations that engage in that sort of immoral crap really has no right to take the moral high ground on any social issue.




I grew up in Lac Saguay and trust me that I go hunting and fishing every single chance I get. As for the babes in Montreal, well, I have an old guy - young lady video line. McGill continues to furnish me with some sexy fun with students that need a little extra money.

However let me ask you a question, "Have you ever really lived?" Because to me it appears that you've got the "Yuppie" thing down pretty good. The problem is that Yuppies are like tourists in this world, they're just sightseeing and never really become part of it.




When someone purchases that shit they're contributing to the financial resources that corporations need for research and development. Corporations that will then build and sell surveillance drones and weaponized drones thereby contributing to the creation of a police state.

Which begs the question of what kind of world do you want your grandchildren to live in?

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

Apple is just another multinational corporation hustling their crap on the public. Apple does NOTcare about you... Or me... Or the workers in China who make their crap... Or the child slave labor mining the minerals for their crap from the unsafe mines in the Congo... Or the E-waste they dump in Botswana. The only people Apple cares about are their stockholders.

Originally Posted by Joshua G

you are trying to reason with a dim-witted troll

Originally Posted by Jel

ok yep, my new favourite poster.

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

And you're not???

Originally Posted by Joshua G

am i a dimwitted troll? yes.

am i trying to reason with the left leaning versions? no. im past that.

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

You're honest so I'll give you that much. As for me I don't believe in left or right dichotomies or dogmas. Instead I see the world in terms of wealthy predators and ignorant prey. So when it comes to government it doesn't matter who wins the election because their job remains the same.... "To manage the livestock."