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President Trump's recent executive orders have deeply touched the lives of undocumented immigrants - and American citizens as well. Consider the stories of U.S.-born children whose undocumented single mothers were arrested and detained for driving without a license and now face possible deportation. These mothers are not criminals; they are hard workers toiling at menial jobs. Immigrant detention centers across the country are overpopulated. In South Florida, the center is packed with local workers who have been swept up in raids. Their families and friends visit because they are nearby. It used to take no more than 15 minutes to travel through three levels of guards to enter the visitation room

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Hypocrisy ...
^^^In South Florida, the center is packed with local workers who have been swept up in raids.

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The old scam --call INS the day before payday?

Paul Markham

Trump's policy does not rip apart families. The children can go back with their parents.

The parents should have thought about the consequences of having children as illegals.

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brassmonkey

this is just one of the tactics they pull

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Steve Rupe

So in your mind do only kids and parents constitute family?

Paul Markham

What do you call a family then? Third cousins maybe???

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mineistaken

Obvious thing, not too obvious to moron "journalists". Disgustingly playing on emotions with false claims.

mineistaken

If you read the OP, it specifically talks about invaders mothers and their children born here.

Rochard

Years ago - thirty years ago - I worked in Taco Bell. (Don't laugh.) This was in Livermore, California. Once a month the Border Patrol would send in two officers in full uniform to the front counter to order, and instantly three fourths of the staff would run out the back door - right in to the arms of a dozen other officers.

I do not have too much compassion for these people. They broke the law when they entered the United States illegally. It's a shame that this happens, but what are we to do? Give people citizenship because their kids were born here? I'm sorry, but when they come to the US illegally they break ALL of our laws.

Remember that college student in Georgia who got pulled over by campus police and they discovered she was here illegally? Every day just by driving her car she broke multiple laws. This cannot be allowed.

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thommy

if there children are born in US they are LEGAL americans.
even when they are born in a plane what was over US in this moment they would be americans.

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thommy

oh what about all the other americans? did they not also come with their parents?

so who ARE the native americans who can stay in your opinion?

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faxxaff

I am not a lawyer, but isn't their problem that their birth in America was not documented in many cases? And I think the US changed the law for US born children. While they are US citizens, they don't have the right to stay in the US if they can't provide for themselves and their parents.

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Steve Rupe

They are of course but I am not talking about 3rd cousins, but brothers, sisters, Aunts, Uncles, Grand Parents, and 1st cousins are definitely close blood related family members in my book anyhow.

pimpmaster9000

The shit paid fuck ass jobs will now open right up for the white man...beaner pay is the new American dream for whiteys...the fight against cheap labor and common sense is afoot...small businesses be fucked from all sides...hard...tittyfucked too...

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Someone's spouse, parents and grandparents, children and grand children, brothers and sisters, mother in law and father in law, brothers in law and sisters in law, daughters in law and sons in law. Adopted, half, and step members are also included in immediate family.
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Robbie

I question WHY a family would be "ripped apart".

If I moved...I took my kids with me. If my parents moved they took us with them.

If Illegal Immigrants are deported...they should take their damn kids with them. WTF is the confusion with that?

Your kids go where you go. Always have and always SHOULD.

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Paul Markham

Absobloodylutely.

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Paul Markham

So the billionaires can keep their low-cost workers and renters.

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Paul Markham

So let the children stay in the US and be adopted. Might work out best for them.

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Paul Markham

The legal ones? You missed that one by a mile.

The legal one. You missed again.

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Paul Markham

They can return with their parents or be adopted. Why are you in favour of any other solution? Other than it reduces wages.

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thommy

the collusion is the 14. amendment to the united states constitution.
the SAME constitution what gives you the right to say what you think.
the SAME constitution what defines the "american values" what you are defending so proud.

you have to decide if you are FOR or AGAINST the constitution. there is no way to pick just the parts you like and ignore the others.

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thommy

great idea - i am not sure if hitler or staling first had it.

you are such a hypocrite - speaking for human rights and praising nazi ideology with the same tounge.

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brassmonkey

wtf is immigration court for????

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thommy

you do not need a court. you have a constitution and you have values.
if you do not respect this constitution and those values you are the ones who should be deported with the the right of your own logik.

no respect laws - no respect values - DEPORTE !!!!

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Google Expert

Yes they are

Crossing US border without permission or staying in the country without permission = BREAKING THE LAW = CRMINALS.

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Google Expert

Wrong. A plane or naval vessel is territory of the country it is registered in.

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And you're a hypocrite for preaching communist ideology.

thommy

you are a fucking idiot and talk about stuff you don´t know.

IF a plane from whatever nation is over the territory of a foreign nation and a child is born there it will have the nationality of the parents AND the nationality of the country the plane crossed in that moment.

what you mean is only when the plane is i.e. over the atlantic and not over foreign territory.

so better ask google you "expert".

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thommy

so tell me when i preached communist ideology!

i doubt that you even KNOW what communist ideology is. i doubt that you was reading marx, engels or lenin to understand what you are talking about.

you are the same as all this religious fuckers who praise their own religion and do not know a shit from the others.

if you want to discuss about serious issues you should be educated in the whole range and not only in the range your fakenews nazi brainwash websites are telling you.

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Paul Markham

You know you have the libtards on the ropes when they throw nazi, fasicist or hitler into the debate.

This is about illegal migrants and their children. No one is talking about genocide.

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Paul Markham

They had no respect for the law when they illegally crossed the border!!

How much more are you willing to pay in taxes to allow these illegals to keep coming into the West?

The amount has to be enough to pay to put a citizen of the country on the dole? The same amount he would earn in wages, more to house the migrants, healthcare, education, policing, etc. Can you afford it?

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thommy

if there would not be someone giving them a job there because americans will not work that cheap - they would not come.

your big idol trump is the best example - he gives more mexicans a job as he gives to americans.

so why do not judge them who GIVE them the work ?

i will tell you why: because you can´t - because that would take prosperity from us citizens because goods and services will rise up in prices.

you are like a cat biting in it´s own tail. your mind about economy reminds me on a beer bar where all this uneducated have the better solutions as people who studied the topic.

you will never understand that your idea would kill prosperity instead of bringing it.

i can only repeat myself: you do NOT HAVE THE SMALLEST CLUE ABOUT THAT but you are one of the loudest fighter for your amateur solutions.
that´s why amateurs are voting for amateurs because they are looking into the same limited horizon.

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Tasty1

Damn, when i overstay a visa they throw me out for at least a year, i think i could never enter the USA again. Or i must walk from the Mexican border into the USA.

If illegals bring so much prosperity for a country, why don't all countries open up their borders? Why does Germany only want skilled workers. The answer is simple, you don't want ghetto's / favela's in your country where the under paid (or jobless) illegal immigrants live. Accepting that is a new form of slavery. Till they arise and fight for the same wages... and than it starts all over again.

Maybe the jobs should be paid enough so everybody want to do the job. Ok, prices will rise. But hell, they must be able to pay for their obamacare or else it is a race to the bottom.

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And this isn't even from a journalist but just some random letter from a reader.

Steve Rupe

You are assuming something that has never been stated by me, one way or another. I was talking about what constitutes family not about my opinion on immigration/deportation. I have not offered an opinion on either immigration/deportation to the best of my recollection.

Paul Markham

Wrong again with your first line. Most Americans don't give them a job, they don't have jobs to give.

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Paul Markham

Mass migration doesn't contribute to the economy. It's a lie that they contribute anything. You would have to have everyone in a well-paid job before they contribute. The reality is for every migrant are there is more who do not contribute and there is a citizen on the dole.

The migrants who contribute have to bring jobs with them. Even migrants doing jobs citizens of that country can't do. Are doing it because that country doesn't want to invest in training. Not the Government individual business. When I left school we all went into apprenticeships. Companies were training their next generation of employees, now they save that money and bring in from abroad.

Good for the 1%, bad for most of the rest, but it makes bleeding hearts like Thommy and crucifissio happy.

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Paul Markham

I was replying to one of your dumb statements. About what is the family.

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brassmonkey

that's the retard shit they are thinking!!! that cartel shit is going to wipe their asses out! i see you mention nothing about the coyotes who over charge illegals. that shit is slavery and a half! on top of that they kidnap family members and demand more money.

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bronco67

yeah, and how many jobs do they get done for legal American businesses that legal Americans don't want to pay a real wage to get done? They're part of our economy and a lot of things would fall apart if these "illegals" didn't come here.

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thommy

oh so i wonder from who they get the jobs than.

Eskimos ? other illegal immigrants? indians ?

who is it you will blame for it ?

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thommy

it is indeed modern slavery.

but you should have a look at the whole chain.

as the COMPLETE economy finally ends up at the private buyer (and you can think that through because you will not find any exception)
it MUST be the private buyer who profits.

you have company A what does the job with high wages
you have company B what does the same with low wages
you have the consumer who pays the bill

if he decides for company A he is the loser and company B is the looser (so here you have 2 loosers)

if he decides for company B he is the winner and company B is the winner (you have only one looser)

this is the logic of economy because economy is the tool for PROSPERITY
PROSPERITY is the number of goods and services what private households can buy for their money.

everyone (all in front paul) who thinks he can replace low paid workers with high paid workers is completely wrong because he is talking against prosperity.

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Steve Rupe

Nonsense troll.

Steve Rupe

Utter nonsense troll. Many businesses in my area have helped wanted signs posted. I look in the paper and see many help wanted ads. Some of the local business owners complain that they cannot get enough help to full fill their needs.

One manufacturing company cannot hire enough help even though it is good pay, good benefits because most applicants cannot pass a drug test.

brassmonkey

yeah cheap labor! then the taxpayers fill the gap! health care, dental, food, rent etc.... the united states based companies are going to stop the greedy bullshit and pay a fair wage.

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thommy

everyone who works should fill the gap.
the one what makes less pays less and the one what makes more pays more.

fair wages depending on fair skills.
sure you will not get a coal miner to be the manager of an international multi billion dollar company.

if you want to compete in the international market and pay fair wages you should have a smart plan for the future and not feed a dead horse.

this "trump will save american jobs" is pure nonsense because 99% of all leading US companies are making global business and have to compete with a global market.

what trump does is to close the connections on this global markets - then this companies will went bankrupt.
and if he force them to produce will high wages they will not sell a thing on the international market - means: they go bankrupt too.

there is no economy in the world what can survive as a closed economy.
if you don´t believe that just wait til trump fullfill his promises. after that the saudies will buy the bankrupt US for a few dollars

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If they throw out the illegals, perhaps there will be some jobs available for the actual legal citizens of the USA so as they no longer need to live in Tent Cities

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