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Here?s What Happens When Male Marines Go Up Against Mixed-Gender
Here?s What Happens When Male Marines Go Up Against Mixed-Gender
![]() Shortly after the US military lifted its ban on women serving in combat in 2013, the Marine Corps took the initiative to embark on a year-long research effort known as the Ground Combat Element Integrated Task force in order to better understand the impact of gender integration within its combat forces. As part of the research experiment, 400 Marines ? 300 male, 100 female ? trained for combat together and then went through a simulated deployment, with every aspect of their training measured for in-depth analysis. When the January 1, 2016 deadline approached for all military branches to open all combat roles to women, the Marine Corps used data from the analysis to compile a report and to aid in the decision whether to adhere or request exception to the mandate. The results of Corps? report illustrate that combat teams were less effective when they included women. ?All-male 0311 (rifleman) infantry squads had better accuracy compared to gender-integrated squads. There was a notable difference between genders for every individual weapons system (i.e. M4, M27, and M203) within the 0311 squads, except for the probability of hit & near miss with the M4. All-male infantry crew-served weapons teams engaged targets quicker and registered more hits on target as compared to gender-integrated infantry crew-served weapons teams, with the exception of M2 accuracy. All-male squads, teams and crews and gender-integrated squads, teams, and crews had a noticeable difference in their performance of the basic combat tasks of negotiating obstacles and evacuating casualties. For example, when negotiating the wall obstacle, male Marines threw their packs to the top of the wall, whereas female Marines required regular assistance in getting their packs to the top. During casualty evacuation assessments, there were notable differences in execution times between all-male and gender-integrated groups, except in the case where teams conducted a casualty evacuation as a one-Marine fireman?s carry of another (in which case it was most often a male Marine who ?evacuated? the casualty)? The report also suggests that female Marines were more prone to injury throughout the experiment. However, at this point, it?s certainly worth noting that the male participants involved in the experiment had previously served in combat units, while the female participants came directly from noncombat jobs. Here?s What Happens When Male Marines Go Up Against Mixed-Gender | Conservative Journal
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It is beyond stupid to think they sexes are the same. I am not looking down on girls, but let's face it they stack up the same as I would or most of you would compared to any Seal Team 6 member. We are just not good enough.
Fireman and policeman and combat soldiers should be at least 6ft...90kgs and fit as fuck. Then they can cut down on size being a factor. It might sound sexist but keep in mind, I am lumping myself in there. I am 6ft 100kgs...I am strong as fuck...i push 120kgs on bench on 4th set. I doubt many here can do it. I am not fit enuogh to be a fireman..I am too fat to be a soldier etc. Jobs that require fitness should be measured solely on that. Therefore when there is a girl who meets the requirements without help...she is the shit..the ultimate girl. She deserves respect and praise. |
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surprising.
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Girls have things they'll excel in...but combat would not be one of those things. Just the physicality of carrying the gear has to be much tougher. Even an exceptionally strong female is only equal to an average strength guy.
That's not to say there aren't some women who would do better in combat and if they pass the physical requirements then fine. But just letting them in wholesale is a bad idea.
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Men and women are vastly different. Men are just physically stronger, and tougher mentally.
With that said, I work with a local Marine recruiter here locally and he recruits a lot of women into the Marine Corps. I was surprised at first, but after seeing some of these women come out of boot camp I am much more comfortable with it. They come out of the boot camp with the same exact "warrior ethic" that all Marines have. They talk about "desire to engage the enemy" and want to be in a combat unit.
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Women have to pass the same tests in boot camp as men as far as I know?..
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"However, at this point, it?s certainly worth noting that the male participants involved in the experiment had previously served in combat units, while the female participants came directly fromhanoncombat jobs."
Interesting how they tag that on at the bottom totally nullifying the test. |
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"However, at this point, it’s certainly worth noting that the male participants involved in the experiment had previously served in combat units, while the female participants came directly from noncombat jobs."
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Wehateporn is a foreigner that really does hate America. Today's thread is attacking the American military.m, again.
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Wehateporn, tell us about the military in your country. What country are you in? Where did you immigrate there from? How many times did America reject you Visa application?
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Yeah right --
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FYI -- All unmarried, over 18 Israeli women are conscripted to the IDF (army) for two years -- men three years. Women soldiers all receive weapons training, basic, etc ... Most IDF women soldiers fill back area support roles but if needed can be sent to front lines as trained reinforcements. It's common to see these soldier 'girls' on buses going home on leave with their combat weapons in their laps.
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they are only too good for israeli soldier (male)
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Try to feel one up -- she will circumcise you into a male clitty -- you might like that on second thought ...
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noway , u read so much novels this week !
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Well stupid knows stupid Fuck off
You are one of the biggest cunts around here Emperor Mindless |
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So much gender stereotyping in this thread.
You should be ashamed of yourselves! |
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Fuck him. Dude I worked construction for years -- I would send the average pussy ass toll here home in tears after a put down contest -- I was being fucking nice about it ...
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If men and women were the same physically and able to perform at the same level. Sports would be unisex. There are Women events and Men events in all sports.
So because they can fire a gun, can they kill a man in hand to hand fighting? To the same degree of effectiveness. |
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A bullet is a bullet and a missile is a missile.
Hand to hand combat is rarer and rarer these days. |
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