My Top 10 List : If teachers are allowed to have guns

[blackmonsters]

Top 10 predictions If teachers are allowed to have guns :

1. Teachers can't be fired on the spot because they have to be disarmed first

2. Stupid teacher will get caught with a stolen gun

3. Teachers will pull out their guns and scare the kids whenever a crappy car backfires

4. Thugs will break into all the teachers cars hoping to find a gun.

5. Dumb teacher will place purse holding gun on heater unit which causes the bullets to fire.

6. Angry teachers will go home and shoot their families

7. A teachers gun inside her purse will accidentally discharge and kill a student.

8. A teacher who is accused of having sex with a underage student will commit suicide in front of the students.

9. The gym teacher will shoot the science teacher for fucking his wife who is an English teacher.

10. Some thug ass student will figure out how to get the gun from a teacher and then shoot students.


You can 100% count on number 10 happening first.


There is a reason why prison guards don't have weapons inside of lock up.
Think about it.

[pimpmaster9000]

"hello kids I am your music teacher"



"hello mr music teacher"



"oh look a school bus"

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

"hello kids I am your music teacher"



"hello mr music teacher"



"oh look a school bus"

MAGA.

Apparently.

[Paul Markham]

The NRAs solution to too many shootings is. Sell more guns.

[nico-t]

Teachers with guns is completely insane. This was science fiction 25 years or so ago (the movie 'class of 99' as i remember correctly) and now it's being seriously considered...

[Celine]

This culture of guns is soooo far from ours...
I'm wondering : would teachers really bring a gun at school if they were allowed to?

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Celine

This culture of guns is soooo far from ours...
I'm wondering : would teachers really bring a gun at school if they were allowed to?

Some probably already do; but they conceal it and nobody knows.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by nico-t

Teachers with guns is completely insane. This was science fiction 25 years or so ago (the movie 'class of 99' as i remember correctly) and now it's being seriously considered...

my daughter is an elementary school teacher, she told me she didn't want to get murdered. I want her to be trained and have a gun. my brother is a school teacher in the OC, he doesn't want to get murdered, I asked him....my grandson is in 3rd or 4th grade.... don't much give a fuck what you think

my opinion is for you and a bunch of assholes to stop standing around chatting about 'oh this could happen or maybe that might happen, we need to blah blah blah' what the fuck about guarding the schools, THEN running your mouth with your brilliant ideas? what do ya think about that?

[Celine]

Sounds like science fiction...

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Celine

This culture of guns is soooo far from ours...
I'm wondering : would teachers really bring a gun at school if they were allowed to?

in many rural areas yes however the gun nuts prefer the urban or rural because, well.... the rural guys have guns... I've had opportunities to be involved with guns my whole life. to me guns are boring like playing pool. I do have a gun for self protection. I had to take it out once.

[Celine]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

my daughter is an elementary school teacher, she told me she didn't want to get murdered. I want her to be trained and have a gun. my brother is a school teacher in the OC, he doesn't want to get murdered, I asked him....my grandson is in 3rd or 4th grade.... don't much give a fuck what you think

my opinion is for you and a bunch of assholes to stop standing around chatting about 'oh this could happen or maybe that might happen, we need to blah blah blah' what the fuck about guarding the schools, THEN running your mouth with your brilliant ideas? what do ya think about that?

How truculent !
Did I say you should let anyone be killed at school ?
Couldn't your schools be totally secured ? With security portals, security guys, videos, etc.
There must be a solution of this kind...

I understand that people in school need to protect themselves! But can you trust people and think that all weapons owners are "safe" enough and will never suddenly become mad, knowing that there are so many kids to who it happens ?

I don't have the impression I'm here blablating for nothing, I try to understand, that's all...

[freecartoonporn]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Top 10 predictions If teachers are allowed to have guns :

1. Teachers can't be fired on the spot because they have to be disarmed first

2. Stupid teacher will get caught with a stolen gun

3. Teachers will pull out their guns and scare the kids whenever a crappy car backfires

4. Thugs will break into all the teachers cars hoping to find a gun.

5. Dumb teacher will place purse holding gun on heater unit which causes the bullets to fire.

6. Angry teachers will go home and shoot their families

7. A teachers gun inside her purse will accidentally discharge and kill a student.

8. A teacher who is accused of having sex with a underage student will commit suicide in front of the students.

9. The gym teacher will shoot the science teacher for fucking his wife who is an English teacher.

10. Some thug ass student will figure out how to get the gun from a teacher and then shoot students.


You can 100% count on number 10 happening first.


There is a reason why prison guards don't have weapons inside of lock up.
Think about it.

@
6. Angry teachers will go home and shoot their families

on serious note., its blah idea,

[beerptrol]

Arm the kids so they can protect themselves from the teachers.

[beerptrol]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

my daughter is an elementary school teacher, she told me she didn't want to get murdered. I want her to be trained and have a gun. my brother is a school teacher in the OC, he doesn't want to get murdered, I asked him....my grandson is in 3rd or 4th grade.... don't much give a fuck what you think

my opinion is for you and a bunch of assholes to stop standing around chatting about 'oh this could happen or maybe that might happen, we need to blah blah blah' what the fuck about guarding the schools, THEN running your mouth with your brilliant ideas? what do ya think about that?

STFU. No one wants to be murdered. Tell them it's the price they have to pay because gun nuts think the 2nd amendment right is absolute.

As for guarding schools, where is the money going to come from? Government has been cutting school funding and many districts are in trouble. I know, they can hire betsy devos brother's private contractors....They will find the money for that, but not for education

[Celine]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

STFU. No one wants to be murdered. Tell them it's the price they have to pay because gun nuts think the 2nd amendment right is absolute.

As for guarding schools, where is the money going to come from? Government has been cutting school funding and many districts are in trouble. I know, they can hire betsy devos brother's private contractors....They will find the money for that, but not for education

Yeh, sorry, money... silly me! I forgot for a sec that money leads this world...
to its loss...
Oh dear, what a sad conversation we're having here

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

my daughter is an elementary school teacher, she told me she didn't want to get murdered. I want her to be trained and have a gun. my brother is a school teacher in the OC, he doesn't want to get murdered, I asked him....my grandson is in 3rd or 4th grade.... don't much give a fuck what you think

my opinion is for you and a bunch of assholes to stop standing around chatting about 'oh this could happen or maybe that might happen, we need to blah blah blah' what the fuck about guarding the schools, THEN running your mouth with your brilliant ideas? what do ya think about that?

Guns in schools is a quick fix to a long-term problem. Yes for the time being it makes sense to have highly trained ex-combat soldiers who have proven their ability to use a gun or highly trained police in schools. Along with locking down schools so nobody can enter with a gun or shoot through windows.

Not teachers as no one knows how they will react when faced with an assailant. And most certainly no one with handguns. As most shooters use semi-automatic weapons.

The cost can be born by gun buyers with an extra tax put on firearms sales. Not the general public as they don't cause the problems.

However, that will just move the problems to other areas, malls, stadiums, clubs, hotels, etc.

The long-term solution is to cut down on the supply of guns. Cut out the sale of high powered, semi-automatics, large magazines, bullets, etc.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

As for guarding schools, where is the money going to come from? Government has been cutting school funding and many districts are in trouble. I know, they can hire betsy devos brother's private contractors....They will find the money for that, but not for education

Gun owners can pay for it.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

in many rural areas yes however the gun nuts prefer the urban or rural because, well.... the rural guys have guns... I've had opportunities to be involved with guns my whole life. to me guns are boring like playing pool. I do have a gun for self protection. I had to take it out once.

Only once? Don't you jerk off over it?

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Arm the kids so they can protect themselves from the teachers.

I am arming my cat , to protect her from the kids, that are protecting themselves from the teachers, that are protecting themselves from mass shooter .... or the government ...

Anyone can give me direction to the shop GUNS UNLIMITED ?

[pimpmaster9000]

the simpsons called it years ago yet again:

[brassmonkey]

russian school of war?? you guys need to drink less vodka it will clear up after the cold shakes

Originally Posted by crucifissio

"hello kids I am your music teacher"



"hello mr music teacher"



"oh look a school bus"

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Top 10 predictions If teachers are allowed to have guns :

1. Teachers can't be fired on the spot because they have to be disarmed first

2. Stupid teacher will get caught with a stolen gun

3. Teachers will pull out their guns and scare the kids whenever a crappy car backfires

4. Thugs will break into all the teachers cars hoping to find a gun.

5. Dumb teacher will place purse holding gun on heater unit which causes the bullets to fire.

6. Angry teachers will go home and shoot their families

7. A teachers gun inside her purse will accidentally discharge and kill a student.

8. A teacher who is accused of having sex with a underage student will commit suicide in front of the students.

9. The gym teacher will shoot the science teacher for fucking his wife who is an English teacher.

10. Some thug ass student will figure out how to get the gun from a teacher and then shoot students.


You can 100% count on number 10 happening first.


There is a reason why prison guards don't have weapons inside of lock up.
Think about it.

When I was in highschool...the students had rifles in the window racks of their trucks in the parking lot. My math teacher Mr. Elliot openly carried a gun. As did the Principal of the highschool.

I don't know how many other teachers kept guns in their desks, etc.

I do know that a lot of students (including myself) carried pocket knives.

NONE of the things you said ever happened.
There were NO shootings at my school. There were no stabbings.

I graduated in 1979. Kids back then in small towns were raised with guns and knew how to handle them and respected what they could do.

These days? I think society has a problem. I don't know if it's caused by video games, or the media "glorifying" mass shooters and making them famous, or if it's an unintended consequence of gun control advocates (usually the fastest way to get someone to do anything is to tell them they can't)...but whatever it is, we need to figure it out quick.

I don't think that ANY of the things you listed would happen. It never happened in the past when schools DID have guns in them (there was no law one way or another in most states).
And in "my day" there was a lot of racial tensions in schools in Florida. And yet nobody got killed (got my ass beat pretty good by gangs in school a couple of times though).

One thing is for sure...sitting around doing NOTHING but arguing about "Gun Control" (which can't really happen in a meaningful way unless the Congress repeals the 2nd Amendment) is NOT working.

Let's harden up security for the schools and put an end to this nonsense.
We guard movie stars. We guard politicians. We even have guards on duty after-hours at car dealerships.
Don't you think we should guard our kids too?

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by Robbie

When I was in highschool...the students had rifles in the window racks of their trucks in the parking lot. My math teacher Mr. Elliot openly carried a gun. As did the Principal of the highschool.

I don't know how many other teachers kept guns in their desks, etc.

I do know that a lot of students (including myself) carried pocket knives.

NONE of the things you said ever happened.
There were NO shootings at my school. There were no stabbings.

I graduated in 1979. Kids back then in small towns were raised with guns and knew how to handle them and respected what they could do.

These days? I think society has a problem. I don't know if it's caused by video games, or the media "glorifying" mass shooters and making them famous, or if it's an unintended consequence of gun control advocates (usually the fastest way to get someone to do anything is to tell them they can't)...but whatever it is, we need to figure it out quick.

I don't think that ANY of the things you listed would happen. It never happened in the past when schools DID have guns in them (there was no law one way or another in most states).
And in "my day" there was a lot of racial tensions in schools in Florida. And yet nobody got killed (got my ass beat pretty good by gangs in school a couple of times though).

One thing is for sure...sitting around doing NOTHING but arguing about "Gun Control" (which can't really happen in a meaningful way unless the Congress repeals the 2nd Amendment) is NOT working.

Let's harden up security for the schools and put an end to this nonsense.
We guard movie stars. We guard politicians. We even have guards on duty after-hours at car dealerships.
Don't you think we should guard our kids too?

How many kids used to bring machine guns to school?

Maybe America should just use the Military to guard schools. If a teacher doesn't carry a gun and a shooter comes.. can they be sued? Can a teacher bring in 20 guns? Wouldn't a rocket propelled grenade be better?

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

How many kids used to bring machine guns to school?

That's pretty fucking stupid, how many bring them now? ZERO!

Do you even know what a machine gun is?

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Robbie

When I was in highschool...the students had rifles in the window racks of their trucks in the parking lot. My math teacher Mr. Elliot openly carried a gun. As did the Principal of the highschool.

I don't know how many other teachers kept guns in their desks, etc.

I do know that a lot of students (including myself) carried pocket knives.

NONE of the things you said ever happened.
There were NO shootings at my school. There were no stabbings.

I graduated in 1979. Kids back then in small towns were raised with guns and knew how to handle them and respected what they could do.

These days? I think society has a problem. I don't know if it's caused by video games, or the media "glorifying" mass shooters and making them famous, or if it's an unintended consequence of gun control advocates (usually the fastest way to get someone to do anything is to tell them they can't)...but whatever it is, we need to figure it out quick.

I don't think that ANY of the things you listed would happen. It never happened in the past when schools DID have guns in them (there was no law one way or another in most states).
And in "my day" there was a lot of racial tensions in schools in Florida. And yet nobody got killed (got my ass beat pretty good by gangs in school a couple of times though).

One thing is for sure...sitting around doing NOTHING but arguing about "Gun Control" (which can't really happen in a meaningful way unless the Congress repeals the 2nd Amendment) is NOT working.

Let's harden up security for the schools and put an end to this nonsense.
We guard movie stars. We guard politicians. We even have guards on duty after-hours at car dealerships.
Don't you think we should guard our kids too?

I had a teacher that carried a gun as well, we had rifles in our cars and trucks and I graduated in 78. Now the dems are declaring schools a gun free zone and see how well that's doing? They have a problem with school shootings, yet during the administration of Obama, school shootings increased ten fold.

Bump stocks were made legal under the Obama administration.

I have zero problems with better back ground checks, but lets get the system to actually work first, which has been the case with this last big shooting. And maybe some cops with a pair that isn't a fucking coward!

I raised my daughter is a small school district, many people in the area have carry permits because the local sheriffs know that is a deterrent to crime. I never worries about a school shooting because I saw the principal at the gun range on a regular basis.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

How many kids used to bring machine guns to school?

Maybe America should just use the Military to guard schools. If a teacher doesn't carry a gun and a shooter comes.. can they be sued? Can a teacher bring in 20 guns? Wouldn't a rocket propelled grenade be better?

None did. But they were available. Hell in the 1930's people had machine guns all over the country (REAL machine guns...not bump stocks). The mafia gangsters used them in firefights with the FBI.

But nobody was shooting up schools like this.

The point is...you have no point. I'm saying I think we should IMMEDIATELY harden up the schools so they are no longer "soft targets".

There are two ways to do that:
1. With armed "guards" all over the schools.
I don't like that idea for two reasons: It would make the school feel like a war zone and the guards have no "skin in the game" and don't really care about the kids.
OR
2. Have select teachers conceal carry.

Either way is better than the NOTHING that has been done for decades by Democrats and Republicans.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Robbie

When I was in highschool...the students had rifles in the window racks of their trucks in the parking lot. My math teacher Mr. Elliot openly carried a gun. As did the Principal of the highschool.

I don't know how many other teachers kept guns in their desks, etc.

I do know that a lot of students (including myself) carried pocket knives.

NONE of the things you said ever happened.
There were NO shootings at my school. There were no stabbings.

I graduated in 1979. Kids back then in small towns were raised with guns and knew how to handle them and respected what they could do.

These days? I think society has a problem. I don't know if it's caused by video games, or the media "glorifying" mass shooters and making them famous, or if it's an unintended consequence of gun control advocates (usually the fastest way to get someone to do anything is to tell them they can't)...but whatever it is, we need to figure it out quick.

I don't think that ANY of the things you listed would happen. It never happened in the past when schools DID have guns in them (there was no law one way or another in most states).
And in "my day" there was a lot of racial tensions in schools in Florida. And yet nobody got killed (got my ass beat pretty good by gangs in school a couple of times though).

One thing is for sure...sitting around doing NOTHING but arguing about "Gun Control" (which can't really happen in a meaningful way unless the Congress repeals the 2nd Amendment) is NOT working.

Let's harden up security for the schools and put an end to this nonsense.
We guard movie stars. We guard politicians. We even have guards on duty after-hours at car dealerships.
Don't you think we should guard our kids too?

A lot of things happen now that didn't happen in the past so the past is not the proper
way to measure current threats.

You graduated in 1979 and some jackass cut funds to the mental institutions in 1980.
Do you think there may be a correlation?


Furthermore; we can talk about how to protect the school all we want but when the
school is 100% impenetrable the shooter will simply wait at the bus stop and kill 60
kids on a bus.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Arm the kids so they can protect themselves from the teachers.

idiot

[crockett]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Top 10 predictions If teachers are allowed to have guns :

1. Teachers can't be fired on the spot because they have to be disarmed first

2. Stupid teacher will get caught with a stolen gun

3. Teachers will pull out their guns and scare the kids whenever a crappy car backfires

4. Thugs will break into all the teachers cars hoping to find a gun.

5. Dumb teacher will place purse holding gun on heater unit which causes the bullets to fire.

6. Angry teachers will go home and shoot their families

7. A teachers gun inside her purse will accidentally discharge and kill a student.

8. A teacher who is accused of having sex with a underage student will commit suicide in front of the students.

9. The gym teacher will shoot the science teacher for fucking his wife who is an English teacher.

10. Some thug ass student will figure out how to get the gun from a teacher and then shoot students.


You can 100% count on number 10 happening first.


There is a reason why prison guards don't have weapons inside of lock up.
Think about it.

You are asking Republicans to use a resource they don't have.. "thinking"..

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

There is a reason why prison guards don't have weapons inside of lock up.
Think about it.

school is a lockup??

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

A lot of things happen now that didn't happen in the past so the past is not the proper
way to measure current threats.

You graduated in 1979 and some jackass cut funds to the mental institutions in 1980.
Do you think there may be a correlation?


Furthermore; we can talk about how to protect the school all we want but when the
school is 100% impenetrable the shooter will simply wait at the bus stop and kill 60
kids on a bus.

blah blah blah, you want to blame it on a republican, what about the fact that students are out of control in the class room and teachers have become powerless to enforce any kind of order? Ask a teacher, I have

[Vendzilla]

Let's face it, schools have been going down hill ever since Carter put the federal government in charge of schools and the left has been turning them into liberal institutions.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

A lot of things happen now that didn't happen in the past so the past is not the proper
way to measure current threats.

You graduated in 1979 and some jackass cut funds to the mental institutions in 1980.
Do you think there may be a correlation?


Furthermore; we can talk about how to protect the school all we want but when the
school is 100% impenetrable the shooter will simply wait at the bus stop and kill 60
kids on a bus.

So you say...do nothing?
Argue about "gun control"?

What do you think should be done NOW?
Not theoretically, or leaving it up to the politicians in Washington to argue about for another 20 years...but something that can be done NOW that would actually stop this kind of thing?

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Robbie

So you say...do nothing?
Argue about "gun control"?

What do you think should be done NOW?
Not theoretically, or leaving it up to the politicians in Washington to argue about for another 20 years...but something that can be done NOW that would actually stop this kind of thing?

No, you said "do nothing" because you can't think of anything better than buying more guns.
Don't try to put words in my mouth; that's a tired old trick where you say stupid shit and claim I said it.

Can we profile school shooters?

Cops claim they can profile drug dealers so why not profile crazy fucks who sit in the class
room "cooking off".

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Cops claim they can profile drug dealers so why not profile crazy fucks who sit in the class
room "cooking off".

Oh yeah, the war on drugs is doing so well, we went from smoking pot to a major opioid problem

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Oh yeah, the war on drugs is doing so well, we went from smoking pot to a major opioid problem

Maybe the war on drugs needs more guns then, right?

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

my daughter is an elementary school teacher, she told me she didn't want to get murdered. I want her to be trained and have a gun. my brother is a school teacher in the OC, he doesn't want to get murdered, I asked him....my grandson is in 3rd or 4th grade.... don't much give a fuck what you think

my opinion is for you and a bunch of assholes to stop standing around chatting about 'oh this could happen or maybe that might happen, we need to blah blah blah' what the fuck about guarding the schools, THEN running your mouth with your brilliant ideas? what do ya think about that?

because your proposed solution would put more children in harm, not less.

The good news is nobody cares what old cranks think. They are so far removed from reality that they are ignored categorically.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by Robbie

So you say...do nothing?
Argue about "gun control"?

What do you think should be done NOW?
Not theoretically, or leaving it up to the politicians in Washington to argue about for another 20 years...but something that can be done NOW that would actually stop this kind of thing?

Nobody has a solution for 'right now'. All we have is what can be done as soon as possible. No faculty in the nation has enough staff capable of handling arms no less in that kind of environment so I'm hoping that is not what you are implying.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

No faculty in the nation has enough staff capable of handling arms no less in that kind of environment so I'm hoping that is not what you are implying.

I don't think that's correct

Have 5 teachers trained and armed in every school, stop schools from being soft targets.

Schools are being attacked because they are soft targets.

You never hear about donut shops next to police stations attacked of Gun conventions attacked, it would be like gun shops getting robbed during open hours or gun ranges being robbed, it's pretty stupid

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by Robbie

When I was in highschool...the students had rifles in the window racks of their trucks in the parking lot. My math teacher Mr. Elliot openly carried a gun. As did the Principal of the highschool.

I don't know how many other teachers kept guns in their desks, etc.

I do know that a lot of students (including myself) carried pocket knives.

NONE of the things you said ever happened.
There were NO shootings at my school. There were no stabbings.

I graduated in 1979. Kids back then in small towns were raised with guns and knew how to handle them and respected what they could do.

These days? I think society has a problem. I don't know if it's caused by video games, or the media "glorifying" mass shooters and making them famous, or if it's an unintended consequence of gun control advocates (usually the fastest way to get someone to do anything is to tell them they can't)...but whatever it is, we need to figure it out quick.

I don't think that ANY of the things you listed would happen. It never happened in the past when schools DID have guns in them (there was no law one way or another in most states).
And in "my day" there was a lot of racial tensions in schools in Florida. And yet nobody got killed (got my ass beat pretty good by gangs in school a couple of times though).

One thing is for sure...sitting around doing NOTHING but arguing about "Gun Control" (which can't really happen in a meaningful way unless the Congress repeals the 2nd Amendment) is NOT working.

Let's harden up security for the schools and put an end to this nonsense.
We guard movie stars. We guard politicians. We even have guards on duty after-hours at car dealerships.
Don't you think we should guard our kids too?

Back in my day....blah blah blah

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I don't think that's correct

Have 5 teachers trained and armed in every school, stop schools from being soft targets.

Schools are being attacked because they are soft targets.

You never hear about donut shops next to police stations attacked of Gun conventions attacked, it would be like gun shops getting robbed during open hours or gun ranges being robbed, it's pretty stupid

Did anyone claim that all shooters are really smart and the fear of being called stupid would make them change their minds?


See vids :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6eJRDfpmr8



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc0UGhPXmD0

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

No, you said "do nothing" because you can't think of anything better than buying more guns.
Don't try to put words in my mouth; that's a tired old trick where you say stupid shit and claim I said it.

Can we profile school shooters?

Cops claim they can profile drug dealers so why not profile crazy fucks who sit in the class
room "cooking off".

I would retort that this kid WAS reported FORTY FIVE times to the authorities. Nothing was done.

And NOBODY said "buy more guns". The teachers who would participate ALREADY own their firearms.

You are either purposefully not being honest with yourself or you are not reading what I am saying.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Back in my day....blah blah blah

That's what I have for reference. What about you? Nothing?
That's what I thought.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

Nobody has a solution for 'right now'. All we have is what can be done as soon as possible. No faculty in the nation has enough staff capable of handling arms no less in that kind of environment so I'm hoping that is not what you are implying.

You don't need but a handful of teachers who ALREADY own weapons to be able to conceal carry to provide a deterrence.
And we can also make it more difficult to enter school grounds in the first place.

We can definitely harden up the schools security in a lot of ways without making it feel like a prison. And that CAN be done "right now".

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Maybe the war on drugs needs more guns then, right?

No, just needs to end. The govt. has no right telling you and I what we can and can't do in our personal lives.
Just like when they tried it with alcohol...it caused a LOT of violence and crime.

The govt. IS the problem in the "War On Drugs". Thanks Richard Nixon.

[bronco67]

To all you old timey rednecks who grew up with teachers who carried guns and everyone else carried guns too....

This isn't 1952 anymore.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Robbie

When I was in highschool...the students had rifles in the window racks of their trucks in the parking lot. My math teacher Mr. Elliot openly carried a gun. As did the Principal of the highschool.

I don't know how many other teachers kept guns in their desks, etc.

I do know that a lot of students (including myself) carried pocket knives.

NONE of the things you said ever happened.
There were NO shootings at my school. There were no stabbings.

I graduated in 1979. Kids back then in small towns were raised with guns and knew how to handle them and respected what they could do.

These days? I think society has a problem. I don't know if it's caused by video games, or the media "glorifying" mass shooters and making them famous, or if it's an unintended consequence of gun control advocates (usually the fastest way to get someone to do anything is to tell them they can't)...but whatever it is, we need to figure it out quick.

I don't think that ANY of the things you listed would happen. It never happened in the past when schools DID have guns in them (there was no law one way or another in most states).
And in "my day" there was a lot of racial tensions in schools in Florida. And yet nobody got killed (got my ass beat pretty good by gangs in school a couple of times though).

One thing is for sure...sitting around doing NOTHING but arguing about "Gun Control" (which can't really happen in a meaningful way unless the Congress repeals the 2nd Amendment) is NOT working.

Let's harden up security for the schools and put an end to this nonsense.
We guard movie stars. We guard politicians. We even have guards on duty after-hours at car dealerships.
Don't you think we should guard our kids too?

As usual Robbie tries to compare a world from the past where a long gun meant a hunting rifle or a full barrel shot gun.. not a AK47 or M16..

As usual, Robbie is out of touch with reality..

In Robbie's high school the blacks had their own water fountains.. You know, the good Ole days..

In the good Ole days Robbie, the NRA taught gun safety and their big thing was shooting events, not lobbying congress on behalf of companies selling M16s and bump stocks to the general public..

[mikesouth]

This is what happens when you dont pay attention. dont or cant read etc.

Every proposal I have seen has the guns kept in a secure locations) with finger print access so everything you mentioned that involved a purse, a stolen gun. pulling out a gun when a cra backfires, etc is just fear mongering...Ive said it before and I will say it again this is a public health issue NOT a gun control issue and until it is addressed as such nothing meaningful is going to come of it it really is that simple.

[kane]

My big worries:

1. Some scared teacher is going to accidentally shoot and seriously hurt or kill some innocent kid and then the teacher, the school, the school district, the city and anyone and everyone who has anything to do with the idea of this teacher carrying a gun at school is going to be sued into oblivion.

2. This suit (or multiple suits if it happens multiple times) could seriously damage the ability of the school to do its job, but more importantly, it could cause people to stop wanting to become a teacher because they don't want to work with armed co-workers or in places where shootings might happen.

So we could find ourselves with a weakened school system that has more and more trouble getting qualified teachers.

Just my opinion.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

This is what happens when you dont pay attention. dont or cant read etc.

Every proposal I have seen has the guns kept in a secure locations) with finger print access so everything you mentioned that involved a purse, a stolen gun. pulling out a gun when a cra backfires, etc is just fear mongering...Ive said it before and I will say it again this is a public health issue NOT a gun control issue and until it is addressed as such nothing meaningful is going to come of it it really is that simple.

Yeah, school shooters probably wouldn't cut off a teacher's finger just to get some guns.