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Old 04-07-2018, 07:41 AM   #51
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93 page indictment filed against 7 individuals...

Indictment remains under seal by order of the Judge... Im assume thats possibly because more charges are on the way...

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ges/310430001/
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93 counts filed against 7 individuals...

Indictment remains under seal by order of the Judge... Im assume thats possibly because more charges are on the way...

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EDITED: Its not 93 counts, its a 93 page indictment. Just saw a more recent news article...
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EDITED: Its not 93 counts, its a 93 page indictment. Just saw a more recent news article...
Do you think backpage will try and fight it and get there site back
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Skipthegames.com ?
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Do you think backpage will try and fight it and get there site back
Absolutely. These guys have the money to fight and have the lawyers to do it.

Bob Corn-Revere, a First Amendment expert and Steven Ross, former General Counsel of the U.S. House of Representatives.
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Please don't post that - They'll be targeted next.
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today cracker is seized as well , South America used to work with Cracker, guess the streets will be full of hookers again
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Absolutely. These guys have the money to fight and have the lawyers to do it.

Bob Corn-Revere, a First Amendment expert and Steven Ross, former General Counsel of the U.S. House of Representatives.
What do you think there chances are ?
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PlentyofFish.com? Seekingarrangement.com? Phrendly.com? Relationshipallowance.com? sugardaddie.com? Thousands of Facebook dating groups https://m.facebook.com/groups/1453226388328438/

The lists go on and on and on and on and on... :D
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The lists go on and on and on and on and on... :D
Some of those will also be on the hit list...
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Some of those will also be on the hit list...
"Hit list"

Not all platforms operate like Craigslist fucking over their user base to not spend a time, or out any effort into, protecting their tights.

Craigslist always had the worst support anyway and tyrannical nazi volunteer admins that would constantly delete ads and anything flagged without even looking or explaining.
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Would that lower the price??
Craigslist personals and Backpage down at the same time. Would say odds are high in a few weeks you'll find hookers standing by your car door offering to swallow the goo for $20 and 3 cigarettes.
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Now we know where to find you playing dressup on the weekends. Tell us, how many gobs of goo can you gulp down on your best weekends?
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"Hit list"

Not all platforms operate like Craigslist fucking over their user base to not spend a time, or out any effort into, protecting their tights.

Craigslist always had the worst support anyway and tyrannical nazi volunteer admins that would constantly delete ads and anything flagged without even looking or explaining.
You think the govt chooses who to go after based on bad customer service ? lol
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What's to stop an enterprising individual NOT from a western world country from setting up a similar service with off-shore hosting using ad revenue as the monetization?
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Bob Corn-Revere, a First Amendment expert and Steven Ross, former General Counsel of the U.S. House of Representatives.
Is accepting paid advertising for prostitutes legal or not?
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You're changing the subject.

A) The government hasn't gone after anyone yet, it's not even a fucking law.

B) I was addressing platforms folding, not giving a fuck about their users or even trying to fight for their freedom of speech, Craigslist as an example.

C) When you purposely confuse issues because you're a porn attorney, and defend Trump daily, and he's putting people out of business in our industry, you look like a fucking moron.

D) Try addressing what I actually say instead if confusing issues and wasting my time to set you straight and the readers time, you don't do anyone any favors especially yourself.
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Most ads on the platforms that closed were free Paul. Jesus fucking Christ it's the blind leading the blind with these fucking moron Trump supporters who work in our industry. Paul doesn't work though, but he supports Trump and hates the porn industry since he stopped being able to make money in it, he'd love to see the rest of us left fail.
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Most ads on the platforms that closed were free Paul. Jesus fucking Christ it's the blind leading the blind with these fucking moron Trump supporters who work in our industry. Paul doesn't work though, but he supports Trump and hates the porn industry since he stopped being able to make money in it, he'd love to see the rest of us left fail.
No one can make you fail except yourself. Haters always gonna hate. Focus on your own shit instead of pointing fingers. That goes for everyone not just you. It's not "the law" or Trump or Obama or this or that excuse. Obviously people still make millions in the Adult Industry. This nonsense with Backpage won't mean shit in the long run. Backpage is an easy target, as was Craig's List. Mongers will know where to find the whores I would not worry about them.
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You're changing the subject.

A) The government hasn't gone after anyone yet, it's not even a fucking law.
Spend more time researching and less time posting...

2010 – Craigslist.com – Craigslist Closes Its Sex-Related Ad Section - The New York Times

2011 – Escorts.com – https://domaininvesting.com/escorts-...1-advertising/

2014 – Redbook.com – https://www.wired.com/2015/02/redbook/

2015 – RentBoy.com – https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/n...-sex-work.html

2016 – TheReviewBoard.com – https://projects.seattletimes.com/20...titution-bust/

2016 – Backpage.com – http://reason.com/blog/2017/08/31/ca...harris-pimping

2017 – Eros.com – http://reason.com/blog/2017/11/13/er...meland-securit

Its been going on for 8 years...
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This site is the only one that have a CRAZY SCREENING process for their advertiser.
Not sure if he will shut down but is the only one i know who are crazy with the screening and talk directly to the service provider in question who put up the ad.
Back then it was that way lol.
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I guess this kills more people than guns.

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2010 – Craigslist.com – Craigslist Closes Its Sex-Related Ad Section - The New York Times

2011 – Escorts.com – https://domaininvesting.com/escorts-...1-advertising/

2014 – Redbook.com – https://www.wired.com/2015/02/redbook/

2015 – RentBoy.com – https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/n...-sex-work.html

2016 – TheReviewBoard.com – https://projects.seattletimes.com/20...titution-bust/

2016 – Backpage.com – http://reason.com/blog/2017/08/31/ca...harris-pimping

2017 – Eros.com – http://reason.com/blog/2017/11/13/er...meland-securit

Its been going on for 8 years...
Great research. I told a friend last night that this can’t be the first site shutdown nor will it be the last. It’s just not heavily covered by the media until now. I’m wrong to blame Trump solely.

I visited one site today for the first time. Blatant escort and hooker ads. Reviews like “$100 for the best cocksucker” right on the front page and I never signed up to go in and read ads. No warning page either. I remember when sites began putting up the warnings. Hosts were shutting down sites without them. Thinking back, it was around the time Traci Llords fucked us up and brought 18 USC 2257 upon us. Nowadays you see few sites referencing that law but I remember how many sites shut down. Oh, the lawyers advertising themselves as keepers of record for $1,000/year I’m sure it’s in the archives here, the panic, fear and hosts dropping sites.

Ahh the good ol’ days ...
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2010 – Craigslist.com – Craigslist Closes Its Sex-Related Ad Section - The New York Times

2011 – Escorts.com – https://domaininvesting.com/escorts-...1-advertising/

2014 – Redbook.com – https://www.wired.com/2015/02/redbook/

2015 – RentBoy.com – https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/n...-sex-work.html

2016 – TheReviewBoard.com – https://projects.seattletimes.com/20...titution-bust/

2016 – Backpage.com – http://reason.com/blog/2017/08/31/ca...harris-pimping

2017 – Eros.com – http://reason.com/blog/2017/11/13/er...meland-securit

Its been going on for 8 years...
Typical... A-D and you pick the easiest to address lazy boy

HB-1865 is not law yet!

I said "A) The government hasn't gone after anyone yet, it's not even a fucking law."

So you post a bunch of cases over the last 8 years that have nothing to do with HB-1865 being law.

Why?
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We did great profits from Backpage. We pull in 20K a month a month on backpage and what some of you didn't know since no one in this thread has mentioned is that Backpage had a sister site that not alot of people knew about PostFastr.com and we pulled another 5-7K a month on it too. I am not going to lie and say it doesn't suck when I just lost 25-27K revenue but it is what it is.

To be honest, we could see it coming, when credit card companies started to refuse processing payments on the Backpage, it was imminent that backpage was going to be shut down at some point. The US gov't doesn't like a US company making 150M tax free revenue a year and not being able to tax a penny of it because Backpage owners had their liquid assets in Bitcoin.

For anyone not knowing about Postfastr, it was created by Backpage as a means to accept credit card payments. It looked exactly like the Backpage site but with a yellow and black color scheme instead of the light blue scheme. Same setup and everything. Backpage couldn't accept credit cards. But Postfastr was able to. The trick was that when you paid for credits on your Postfastr account, magically, Postfastr would deposit those same credits in both your Backpage and Postfastr accounts. They found a way to circumvent credit card companies not processing for Backpage. Then a few months ago, the US gov't caught wind of the trick, and Postfastr was no longer accepting credit card payments. So as you can see, we knew it was coming...
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We did great profits from Backpage. We pull in 20K a month a month on backpage and what some of you didn't know since no one in this thread has mentioned is that Backpage had a sister site that not alot of people knew about PostFastr.com and we pulled another 5-7K a month on it too. I am not going to lie and say it doesn't suck when I just lost 25-27K revenue but it is what it is.

To be honest, we could see it coming, when credit card companies started to refuse processing payments on the Backpage, it was imminent that backpage was going to be shut down at some point. The US gov't doesn't like a US company making 150M tax free revenue a year and not being able to tax a penny of it because Backpage owners had their liquid assets in Bitcoin.

For anyone not knowing about Postfastr, it was created by Backpage as a means to accept credit card payments. It looked exactly like the Backpage site but with a yellow and black color scheme instead of the light blue scheme. Same setup and everything. Backpage couldn't accept credit cards. But Postfastr was able to. The trick was that when you paid for credits on your Postfastr account, magically, Postfastr would deposit those same credits in both your Backpage and Postfastr accounts. They found a way to circumvent credit card companies not processing for Backpage. Then a few months ago, the US gov't caught wind of the trick, and Postfastr was no longer accepting credit card payments. So as you can see, we knew it was coming...
But how did you make so much $ on Backpage a month?
Ads for Oily Asses? LOL
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Old 04-08-2018, 07:52 PM   #92
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But how did you make so much $ on Backpage a month?
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haha no . We facilitated payments. We worked with the service providers who didn't use bitcoin but wanted to pay with their credit card or cash, they would pay us, we took a nominal % and deposited credits into their accounts.
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Typical... A-D and you pick the easiest to address lazy boy

HB-1865 is not law yet!

I said "A) The government hasn't gone after anyone yet, it's not even a fucking law."

So you post a bunch of cases over the last 8 years that have nothing to do with HB-1865 being law.

Why?
Okay lets just ignore all of the escorting sites that have been shut down without FOSTA over the past 8 years and pretend it didnt happen...

Perhaps what you meant to say was "A) The government hasnt gone after anyone with HR-1865 yet, its not even a fucking law."

Does that better support your argument.

I know facts dont count with you but at least the way you word your arguments should.

BTW its HR not HB

Now what are you going to do when -- and this is a real possibility -- Trump and the GOP controlled DOJ DONT actually prosecute anyone with HR 1865?

This law is so poorly written and overly broad it probably wont withstand judicial review. So perhaps they will never go after anyone with FOSTA and will just use it like 18 USC 2257 to scare people.
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haha no . We facilitated payments. We worked with the service providers who didn't use bitcoin but wanted to pay with their credit card or cash, they would pay us, we took a nominal % and deposited credits into their accounts.
Oh gotcha. Nice move! I should get in on that "I'll just take a wee % to help you move money around" game.

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Okay lets just ignore all of the escorting sites that have been shut down without FOSTA over the past 8 years and pretend it didnt happen...

Perhaps what you meant to say was "A) The government hasnt gone after anyone with HR-1865 yet, its not even a fucking law."

Does that better support your argument.

I know facts dont count with you but at least the way you word your arguments should.

BTW its HR not HB

Now what are you going to do when -- and this is a real possibility -- Trump and the GOP controlled DOJ DONT actually prosecute anyone with HR 1865?

This law is so poorly written and overly broad it probably wont withstand judicial review. So perhaps they will never go after anyone with FOSTA and will just use it like 18 USC 2257 to scare people.
So Backpage will be back then?
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So Backpage will be back then?
Backpage wont be prosecuted under FOSTA. Even if FOSTA gets enjoined by some chance, Backpage will still be prosecuted under the old laws. Its gone and its not coming back. Thats why they hit them before FOSTA.
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Most ads on the platforms that closed were free Paul. Jesus fucking Christ it's the blind leading the blind with these fucking moron Trump supporters who work in our industry. Paul doesn't work though, but he supports Trump and hates the porn industry since he stopped being able to make money in it, he'd love to see the rest of us left fail.
So is publishing free ads illegal?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...ion-ads-507343

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Backpage.com, a classified advertising website that faced persistent allegations of profiting from illegal prostitution, was shut down by the U.S. government Friday as authorities reportedly brought criminal charges against seven of those involved in operating the site.

Visitors to the website Friday afternoon saw a notice indicating various Backpage sites were taken over in an “enforcement action” brought by the FBI, the Postal Inspection Service and the IRS.

A grand jury in Phoenix returned a 93-count indictment charging seven people associated with Backpage with using the internet to knowingly facilitate illegal prostitution and money laundering, according to CBS News and KPHO-TV.
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PHOENIX — A founder of a 45-year-old alternative weekly newspaper in Phoenix has been charged in the apparent culmination of a federal human-trafficking investigation.

Michael Lacey, 69, of Sedona, Ariz., who helped build a nationwide media empire out of the Phoenix New Times, was charged Friday as part a 93-count indictment that remained sealed late Friday, according to Lacey's lawyer, Larry Kazan.

Lacey also co-founded the online classified advertising site Backpage, and authorities had spent months probing whether the website served as a willing participant in the online sale of sex, including with underage girls.
As some people have been charged I would say they were breaking some laws allegedly.


The problem with the Internet is it is like trying to turn back the tide. Loads of other places people will look.

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Great research. I told a friend last night that this can’t be the first site shutdown nor will it be the last. It’s just not heavily covered by the media until now. I’m wrong to blame Trump solely.

I visited one site today for the first time. Blatant escort and hooker ads. Reviews like “$100 for the best cocksucker” right on the front page and I never signed up to go in and read ads. No warning page either. I remember when sites began putting up the warnings. Hosts were shutting down sites without them. Thinking back, it was around the time Traci Llords fucked us up and brought 18 USC 2257 upon us. Nowadays you see few sites referencing that law but I remember how many sites shut down. Oh, the lawyers advertising themselves as keepers of record for $1,000/year I’m sure it’s in the archives here, the panic, fear and hosts dropping sites.

Ahh the good ol’ days ...
When people get into the porn industry, they have to accept they are not going to be given a free ride by any Government.
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When people get into the porn industry, they have to accept they are not going to be given a free ride by any Government.
Not true, the problem is porners in the US really don't know the history. Why were all the old timers dems because they got arrested during gop admins.

Every internet porn person should end their evening prayers with thanking god for janet reno because it was her in the early days of the net, who decided going after adult porn was waste of resources

The dems aren't our friends but they have better things to do and they don't need the christian rights vote.

This bill was introduced by the portman(gop) and some other gop lady added the escort sites feature. As far as well they all voted for it. If you are a politician are you going to vote against a bill in name says it protects kids from sex trafficking? Its career death. The difference is the dems never would of brought it up,this country has bigger fish to fry.
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Not true, the problem is porners in the US really don't know the history. Why were all the old timers dems because they got arrested during gop admins.

Every internet porn person should end their evening prayers with thanking god for janet reno because it was her in the early days of the net, who decided going after adult porn was waste of resources

The dems aren't our friends but they have better things to do and they don't need the christian rights vote.

This bill was introduced by the portman(gop) and some other gop lady added the escort sites feature. As far as well they all voted for it. If you are a politician are you going to vote against a bill in name says it protects kids from sex trafficking? Its career death. The difference is the dems never would of brought it up,this country has bigger fish to fry.
So during the time the Democrats are in power. Porn has had no government closures?

Just accept you're in the porn business and we all are under pressure. You should live in the UK prior to the Internet to know what real pressure is about. It's one of the reason I got out.
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