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Old 04-14-2018, 04:43 PM   #1
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Arrested For ... Being Black?

Black Men Arrested For ‘Trespassing’

The video says it all. Sadly, if two white guys were sitting and waiting for someone, nothing would have been said.

Part of me understands you can’t just sit and not order but a bigger part feels “we’re waiting for someone” means give them twenty minutes or so and explain that loitering isn’t allowed. You need to order to sit here.

It was handled wrong by a prejudiced person.

This should be on the front page of every newspaper and news site, as well as tv news. People think black people bring this on themselves by acting ‘gangsta’, but this shows that discrimination and pre-conceived notions exist and isn’t just in the minds of people.
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I watched the second video. It’s horrible to see how these men were treated.

“According to Ross, police “politely” asked the pair to leave several times and they continued to refuse and behaved rudely toward the officers. The officers, he said, did everything right.”

I saw the men talking, not loudly, no hand gestures, seemingly politely speaking to the police.

I emailed Holly Hylton’s boss and requested termination of employment. I expressed my anger and said if I were black, I’d boycott Starbucks. Hell, I’m white and would boycott if one were in my area, I said.

Police always say there’s backtalk and threats and gestures. Here is proof that there are two sides to a story.

Be honest — if you read this story but didn’t see the videos— would you assume guilt solely based on color? I’d bet 75% would say yes if truly honest.

This story touched me deeply as it shows how we’re influenced by the media to believe ALL people of certain ethnicity or religions are always guilty.

It makes you think.
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The manager asked them politely to leave and they didn't.

The cops asked them to leave and they refused.

They got arrested.

Don't disobey an order from a cop or you'll get arrested.

For all we know they are probably a couple crack dealers.

There's always more to these stories.
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Starbucks employees told the responding officers that the two men had asked to use the restroom, Ross said. Employees said they told the pair that the restroom was only for paying customers and asked them to leave, and the pair allegedly refused. The men allegedly told the employees to go ahead and call the police.

According to Ross, police “politely” asked the pair to leave several times and they continued to refuse and behaved rudely toward the officers. The officers, he said, did everything right.
I went into a KFC in the hood a few weeks ago and tried to use the restroom. They said I need to buy something because it's for paying customers only. I bought a soda and took a piss. These idiots obviously caused enuff of a commotion so that the manager called the cops on them.

If you act like a jerk and the cops come, either leave or get arrested. Of course now everyone is screaming racist!

It's bunch of bullshit.

Black and white people get along every damn day in this world. Nothing like the huffpost to try to incite some racism bullshit.
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I went into a KFC in the hood a few weeks ago and tried to use the restroom. They said I need to buy something because it's for paying customers only. I bought a soda and took a piss. These idiots obviously caused enuff of a commotion so that the manager called the cops on them.

If you act like a jerk and the cops come, either leave or get arrested. Of course now everyone is screaming racist!

It's bunch of bullshit.

Black and white people get along every damn day in this world. Nothing like the huffpost to try to incite some racism bullshit.
the difference is at kfc they offer food too. Thes guys were simply waiting for a friend to buy a coffee. If you were at a restaurant and ordered food and ate half of it while waiting for others to show up it would be rude. The key thing missing was it 15-20 mins or an hour?

I would never go into this starbucks if it was in my area.
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*huf post based racist propaganda bullshit*
Yes i am sure it was because of skin color. Because everyone in the real world really cares about skin color right?


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- assuming 'if it was white guys they wouldnt have problems' without any proof or facts, just emotion envoked by racist and segregation propaganda by the mainstream media: Check.

You win the prize, you're a racist by picking this shit article propagating something is about skin color while it isn't, out of hundreds of thousands of articles with subjects that are actual real problems, like disasters, tragedies, wars, deaths, etc. Yet you pick this crappy article, which has the sole purpose of spreading division by pointing out race where it was not even relevant, to be outraged by. Nice to know you got your priorities straight.

You're an idiot.
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Where I live White people have to know some kind of secret code just to use the Starbucks WiFi
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Starbucks apologizes after employee calls police on black men waiting at a table
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I went into a KFC in the hood a few weeks ago and tried to use the restroom. They said I need to buy something because it's for paying customers only. I bought a soda and took a piss. These idiots obviously caused enuff of a commotion so that the manager called the cops on them.

If you act like a jerk and the cops come, either leave or get arrested. Of course now everyone is screaming racist!

It's bunch of bullshit.

Black and white people get along every damn day in this world. Nothing like the huffpost to try to incite some racism bullshit.
you are not going to find police arresting white folkz at starbucks! you always say foolish shit!
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Yes, the stores are “community” hubs, where people often drop in to use the WiFi or chat with friends without necessarily ordering anything.
But, they where asked to leave the shop, they were not complying and got arrested for “defiant trespassing.”

If a cop tells you to leave because the shop wants you out, you leave.
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you are not going to find police arresting white folkz at starbucks! you always say foolish shit!
That's because if there were some ignorant white people causing a ruckus when the cops show up, they leave.

If they had just left when the cops told them to we wouldn't be talking about this. Who do you think they are the Rosa Parks of Starbucks?
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Yes, the stores are “community” hubs, where people often drop in to use the WiFi or chat with friends without necessarily ordering anything.
But, they where asked to leave the shop, they were not complying and got arrested for “defiant trespassing.”

If a cop tells you to leave because the shop wants you out, you leave.
oh no no no they get to stay because they are black. Kicking them out is racist (no matter what they are doing).
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Just what you would expect. The usual assholes have an asshole opinion.
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the difference is at kfc they offer food too. Thes guys were simply waiting for a friend to buy a coffee. If you were at a restaurant and ordered food and ate half of it while waiting for others to show up it would be rude. The key thing missing was it 15-20 mins or an hour?

I would never go into this starbucks if it was in my area.
Yeah but what does it matter? The store policy is the bathroom is for paying customers only. No purchase, no bathroom. MY guess is they asked to use the bathroom and were told this. Then they got pissed and probably got flip with the manager. Manager tells them to bounce. They cause more of a scene and the manager calls the cops. Of course being an ignorant piece of shit it's no surprise they don't obey the cops and get arrested.
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I went into a KFC in the hood a few weeks ago and tried to use the restroom. They said I need to buy something because it's for paying customers only. I bought a soda and took a piss..
Sure ya did.
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Just what you would expect. The usual assholes have an asshole opinion.
What's your take on it anti-white white guy? Everyone must be a racist? The store manager, cops, heck, even the patrons. Everyone there was a racist and they only way the event fell into place were because of racism.
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Yeah but what does it matter? The store policy is the bathroom is for paying customers only. No purchase, no bathroom. MY guess is they asked to use the bathroom and were told this. Then they got pissed and probably got flip with the manager. Manager tells them to bounce. They cause more of a scene and the manager calls the cops. Of course being an ignorant piece of shit it's no surprise they don't obey the cops and get arrested.
did you watch the video? they were calmly talking to the cops. I have no problem with them saying the bathroom is for paying customers but the manager would not have called the police on two white people waiting for others. Starbucks has already said they were sorry for how they handled it.
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did you watch the video? they were calmly talking to the cops. I have no problem with them saying the bathroom is for paying customers but the manager would not have called the police on two white people waiting for others. Starbucks has already said they were sorry for how they handled it.
Yeah but I can't really make out what they are saying. I assume the cops are asking them to leave for about 6 minutes. Near the end where the white guy is asking why they have to leave, like right before they get arrested, you can see the manager come over and start to explain why.

I would love to hear what the manager would have to say. I guarantee it's a different story.

Also, what do you think white people never get kicked out for loitering? This must be a slow news day for them to pick this up.
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I would love to hear what the manager would have to say. I guarantee it's a different story.
and I would like to see the cops video.
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Yes i am sure it was because of skin color. Because everyone in the real world really cares about skin color right?


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- assuming 'if it was white guys they wouldnt have problems' without any proof or facts, just emotion envoked by racist and segregation propaganda by the mainstream media: Check.

You win the prize, you're a racist by picking this shit article propagating something is about skin color while it isn't, out of hundreds of thousands of articles with subjects that are actual real problems, like disasters, tragedies, wars, deaths, etc. Yet you pick this crappy article, which has the sole purpose of spreading division by pointing out race where it was not even relevant, to be outraged by. Nice to know you got your priorities straight.
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The article was about racism and I agreed. This IS a real problem. You really think if they were white, they'd beve been ignored? You're living in a dream world. You're not alone, judging by the posts so far.

They weren't loud. They weren't arguing. They weren't doing anything but waiting for a friend. You can hear people there tells the cops that they were just sitting there. How were they rude to the cops? No raised voices, no gestures, no faces. Even when arrested, they quietly complied. No arguing or yelling, just compliance.

If there were anything done wrong, the court would have been told. The judge saw the videos, ruled no evidence, and dismissed the case. If they rudely refused to comply, the judge would have been informed.

Calling me racist for pointing out discrimination is tantamount to you being called a kiddie porn producer because you have adult websites.

If reading an article on racism and discrimination and hating it makes me racist, then I'll proudly wear the badge.

They refused to leave because they did nothing wrong. They were meeting a friend for coffee. Ordering before he arrived would be rude and ignorant. You wait for your friends, you don't drink coffee and eat donuts without your friends.

Starbucks could have said the guys were disruptive or crude, messy and loud, or anything as proof it was valid to call the cops. Instead they issued an apology fast. PR against losing customers, sure, but the spin could have been that we didn't hear their words or see their actions beforehand.

The employee didn't like two black guys sitting there, not spending money. They were polite enough to ask to use the restroom and when told no, didn't put up a fuss.

Many of you assume they were up to no good because they didn't order. If they were white, would you feel the same way?

Black people often say this happens but no one believes them. Evidence is right here. But here's proof yet you think it's Huff Post inciting racism wars, imagined racism or being racist for copying the link and posting it.

You live in a fantasy world where racism doesn't exist, everyone is welcome everywhere and racism is an imaginatory thing in the minds of racists. You've never had friends of color and seen/heard their experiences.

That plastic bubbles you live in can burst at any second.
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The manager asked them politely to leave and they didn't.

The cops asked them to leave and they refused.

They got arrested.

Don't disobey an order from a cop or you'll get arrested.

For all we know they are probably a couple crack dealers.

There's always more to these stories.
How do you know she asked them "politely" to leave?

Crack dealers? They calmly and quietly stood up to be handcuffed. No arguing, just compliance. Crack dealers would have caused a ruckus, screaming and carrying on. They were too calm to be high. But you assume crack dealers because of their color! Gang colors weren't there. No facial gang tattoos. No hands in pockets to hide drugs. Just two black guys meeting a friend for coffee.

If they were white, would you assume they did blue-collar theft? After all, only black guys deal drugs in your world, right?
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Just what you would expect. The usual assholes have an asshole opinion.
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did you watch the video? they were calmly talking to the cops. I have no problem with them saying the bathroom is for paying customers but the manager would not have called the police on two white people waiting for others. Starbucks has already said they were sorry for how they handled it.
Someone else gets it. Yay. The manager never claimed they did anything but ask for the restroom and refuse to leave. NO mention of rudeness, threats or bad behavior. Both videos showed reactions and if they mouthed off at the cops, they'd have been cuffed in a different manner, not quietly.

Restrooms for customers only is fine.

They were too calm! Seriously, I'd have argued since I did nothing wrong. They were smart enough to know that arguing is senseless and to remain calm and non-threatening.

I hope their local media covers it so I can see it. I'd like their side of the story, too.
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There's people who respond belligerently and/or refuse to comply with the demands of police. And people who respond friendly and/or peaceably comply to the demands of police.

The belligerent people will often get harassed or arrested, for refusing to comply if nothing else. The friendly ones will often not get harassed or arrested, for willingness to comply if nothing else.

That's called friendly privilege. Its belligerentist and its got to stop!
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Its funny how they came quick to starbucks to escort them out, that call was probably the least one they would have responded too.


Shit, I remember when I worked at a motel, it got robbed, cops came the next day for police report since they were too busy for calls that day unless it was a actual emergency.
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Erm...

I've sat down in coffee bar / restaurant / whatever a million times while waiting for someone, and I always order a drink while waiting.

I don't think I ever responded to the staff that I'll be just sitting and waiting until the other person arrives.

What, they MUST take the first sip of coffee at the exact same second? How about following sips, do they coordinate that too?

Anyway, same shit as always..

When asked by authority figure to do something (in this case, starbucks staff) - you do it

When asked by police to stop - you stop

RLY simple shit.
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Erm...

I've sat down in coffee bar / restaurant / whatever a million times while waiting for someone, and I always order a drink while waiting.

I don't think I ever responded to the staff that I'll be just sitting and waiting until the other person arrives.

What, they MUST take the first sip of coffee at the exact same second? How about following sips, do they coordinate that too?

Anyway, same shit as always..

When asked by authority figure to do something (in this case, starbucks staff) - you do it

When asked by police to stop - you stop

RLY simple shit.
yeah just sweep it under the rug... this kind of shit is great! because it happens and nothing is done about it. this time its exposed.
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you are not going to find police arresting white folkz at starbucks! you always say foolish shit!
When it happens, OneHugeRetard will start a thread crying about it.
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What's your take on it anti-white white guy? Everyone must be a racist? The store manager, cops, heck, even the patrons. Everyone there was a racist and they only way the event fell into place were because of racism.
So...if there were two white guys sitting in Starbucks not ordering something, the barista would call the cops? I've had meetings in Starbucks many times (without ordering) and no one ever hassled me. You live in a fantasy world where racism doesn't exist and it's only because you yourself are a raging racist. You should find a razor blade and erase yourself.
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When it happens, OneHugeRetard will start a thread crying about it.
What do you think white people have never been throw out of somewhere for loitering? Or asked to leave because they didn't buy something? Please dude..I'm sure it's happened millions of times and I'm sure they didn't play the victim card.
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So...if there were two white guys sitting in Starbucks not ordering something, the barista would call the cops? I've had meetings in Starbucks many times (without ordering) and no one ever hassled me. You live in a fantasy world where racism doesn't exist and it's only because you yourself are a raging racist. You should find a razor blade and erase yourself.
You think philly is all white? It's 50% black. You think those were the first black guys to walk into that Starbucks? And i'm far from a racist you have no idea. I just call it how I see it and bothers you because you hate being white. What's it like to wake up every day and look in the mirror and see white skin? Do you cry a little bit inside?
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You think philly is all white? It's 50% black. You think those were the first black guys to walk into that Starbucks? And i'm far from a racist you have no idea. I just call it how I see it and bothers you because you hate being white. What's it like to wake up every day and look in the mirror and see white skin? Do you cry a little bit inside?
I've got some news for you, idiot. If you've ever had to tell someone you're not racist, that's a sure sign you are. I'll bet it happens to you a lot.

Or do you only have the nuts to show this side of yourself when not around people in the real world? If you spewed your vile opinions around normal, decent people they'd probably find you pretty repugnant, unless you only hang out with other scumbags. Have to give you some credit for sustaining this character you portray.
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So...if there were two white guys sitting in Starbucks not ordering something, the barista would call the cops?
DO NOT oversimplify things. It didn't happen as you describe. Read the article.

- they asked to use the toilet
- they were told it's for customers only, they should order something or leave
- they refused and even told the staff they can call the police

BTW can't even remember the country I was in (somewhere in Europe) but I rushed in the McDonalds to take a piss and guess what, it was customer only. They didn't let me use it before buying something so I had a soda or some shit.

Security guard that told me I can't use the toilet was BLACK.
Guess what, I'm white.

I DID NOT:
- argue
- piss on their floor
- make a scene
- tell them to call cops
- and.. I DID NOT FEEL LIKE A VICTIM
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I've got some news for you, idiot. If you've ever had to tell someone you're not racist, that's a sure sign you are. I'll bet it happens to you a lot.
What the fuck kind of soy boy idiocy is that?
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A single shitty racist employee does not represent the corporation, just like you don't represent anything but cuckery of morbidly obese 71 year old geriatric men in dirty diapers.
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DO NOT oversimplify things. It didn't happen as you describe. Read the article.

- they asked to use the toilet
- they were told it's for customers only, they should order something or leave
- they refused and even told the staff they can call the police

BTW can't even remember the country I was in (somewhere in Europe) but I rushed in the McDonalds to take a piss and guess what, it was customer only. They didn't let me use it before buying something so I had a soda or some shit.

Security guard that told me I can't use the toilet was BLACK.
Guess what, I'm white.

I DID NOT:
- argue
- piss on their floor
- make a scene
- tell them to call cops
- and.. I DID NOT FEEL LIKE A VICTIM
You are kind of stupid.

They were arrested for "loitering" because they were there waiting for their WHITE friend to show up. Their friends showed up late as they were being handcuffed and caused a scene yelling at the cops. It's all on video. The video below starts as the white friend finally shows up..



Unlike you, I've never been told I can't use the restroom anywhere in America, or abroad, so look in the mirror and ask yourself what you can do so people won't reject you from using their toilet. Are you polite like Bladewire? Are you smartly dressed like Bladewire? Do you have a winning smile and undeniable charm like Bladewire? If you answered no to any of those questions then you need to up your game so more doors will open for you in life, at minimum, the door to a restroom.
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What the fuck kind of soy boy idiocy is that?
Why do you think someone gets accused of being racist?
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You are kind of stupid.

They were arrested for "loitering" because they were there waiting for their WHITE friend to show up. Their friends showed up late as they were being handcuffed and caused a scene yelling at the cops. It's all on video. The video below starts as the white friend finally shows up..
No dumb fuck, it's not all on video. Video begins when cops show up, after pretty much all the fuss has already happened.
Read the article, it says exactly as I said.

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Unlike you, I've never been told I can't use the restroom anywhere in America, or abroad, so look in the mirror and ask yourself what you can do so people won't reject you from using their toilet.
When the toilet is for customers only, and they are strict on that policy, I doubt my way of dressing will help with that - UNLESS I actually become a customer
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Why do you think someone gets accused of being racist?
Well, in these days, it's 99% because retards like you WANT it to be racism instead of common sense.
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The video says it all. Sadly, if two white guys were sitting and waiting for someone, nothing would have been said.

Part of me understands you can’t just sit and not order but a bigger part feels “we’re waiting for someone” means give them twenty minutes or so and explain that loitering isn’t allowed. You need to order to sit here.

It was handled wrong by a prejudiced person.

This should be on the front page of every newspaper and news site, as well as tv news. People think black people bring this on themselves by acting ‘gangsta’, but this shows that discrimination and pre-conceived notions exist and isn’t just in the minds of people.

Shoulda shot the dumbasses
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Protesters Swarm Starbucks Where Two Black Men Were Arrested

“Starbucks regional vice president Camille Hymes came out to speak with the crows and said the company knows people want the manager fired but that it takes responsibility.”

Errr, typo — they’re a CROWD, not CROWS. Dumbass proofreaders
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Oh, for those who felt that Huff Post or NY Post is making this up or unreliable, it was a headline on the Washington Post yesterday. Google showed dozens of newspapers carrying the story prominently and websites by the dozens featured this story.

Earlier today I saw NBC News doing a long story and many commented that the young men were polite, quiet, and complied politely.

When I was a young teen, I went with my grandparents to Burger King. Nana asked for the bathroom and they said it was for customers only. She argued she was a customer but hadn’t ordered yet. I ordered for her while Mom took her to the bathroom. I questioned why this happened and Mom said only customers can use the bathroom as it costs money for water, toilet paper, soap, cleaning person, etc. I asked if daddy let people use his bathroom in his store and she said no. I understood the reasoning but if you have to go badly, you go then order. Little old ladies aren’t likely to leave a mess, steal toilet paper or run out the door. Then I got older and realized they DO cause issues at times.

Pay toilets are a joke. You never have change. There’s no toilet paper after you’ve paid. If a roll of it falls on the floor and is thrown away, they lose money due to the costs of water, soap, etc.
lSomeday it won’t be a quarter but a buck to use the bathroom. If I have to pay a buck to pee, I’m gonna use tons of paper, wash every body part I can with soap and hot water, dry off with tons of paper towels AND grab some toilet paper to take home to wipe spills, my windshield, my fenders and anything else I can clean;)
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I can't wait for the Black cops video to show the true story.
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It's ok to be white. You can't demoralize us anymore, and nor can your (((media))).

Move on, Hasbara operative.
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Unfortunately we won't hear from the manager because he'll be crucified if he comes out with a statement
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- when you wait for someone in a Starbucks you'd first get a drink before you sit down, I don't know anyone who'd do otherwise

- toilet in most coffee shops and fast food chains for paying customers only, so if you want to use the toilet you order a drink first, everyone knows this

- staff politely asked them to leave if they were not going to order anything right away, they refused

- staff said they would call the cops if they didn't order anything or leave, they said go ahead

- police asked several times politely to leave if they were not going to order anything, they refused


The guys were obviously in the wrong, it's common sense. It has nothing to do with racism. They love this kind of stuff to happen so they can claim the racist card, that's why the refuse to go so they hope the cops will be aggressive and they can get their 15 minutes of fame. Anyone with common sense would have just ordered a drink and/or leave.
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