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Old 05-22-2018, 09:07 AM   #51
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von braun chose USA, he wasn't forced to come here. He chose NOT to go to USSR.
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Old 05-22-2018, 09:10 AM   #52
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Sometimes the rockets crash and kill their crews... but not in Russia (we have lost only 4 cosmonauts: one because of a parachute failure and three because of determination of the landing capsule - so nobody was killed by the rocket). You guys, have a short memory.
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A short circuit in the replaced main sequencer caused the second stage engines to fire while being tested before launch. This detonated the first stage fuel tanks directly below, destroying the missile in an enormous explosion. Before seeking refuge, the camera operator had remotely activated automatic cameras set around the launching pad that filmed the explosion in detail. People near the rocket were instantly incinerated; those farther away were burned to death or poisoned by the toxic fuel component vapors. Andrei Sakharov described many details—as soon as the engines fired, most of the personnel there ran to the perimeter, but were trapped inside the security fence and then engulfed in the fireball of burning fuel. The resultant explosion incinerated Nedelin, a top aide, the USSR's top missile guidance designer, and seventy-one other officers and engineers.[2] Missile designer Mikhail Yangel and the test range commanding officer survived only because they had left to smoke a cigarette behind a bunker a few hundred yards away, but nonetheless suffered burn injuries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nedelin_catastrophe

72 deaths by a single rocket failure - I think that puts Russia in the lead.

Talk about a short memory.
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Old 05-22-2018, 09:12 AM   #53
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72 deaths by a single rocket failure - I think that puts Russia in the lead.

Talk about a short memory.
a tragic accident indeed.
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Old 05-22-2018, 09:15 AM   #54
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i didn't really want to go there with this, but.....


Robert H. Goddard, the American father of modern rocketry, built and tested the world's first liquid-fuel rocket in 1926. His achievement is considered as significant as the Wright Brothers' first flight.


Wernher von Braun used Goddard's plans from various journals and incorporated them into the building of the Aggregat series of rockets. The A-4 rocket would become well known as the V-2.
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Old 05-22-2018, 09:51 AM   #55
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i didn't really want to go there with this, but.....


Robert H. Goddard, the American father of modern rocketry, built and tested the world's first liquid-fuel rocket in 1926. His achievement is considered as significant as the Wright Brothers' first flight.


Wernher von Braun used Goddard's plans from various journals and incorporated them into the building of the Aggregat series of rockets. The A-4 rocket would become well known as the V-2.
so why were you guys 2nd in space then?
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Old 05-22-2018, 09:58 AM   #56
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There's whole websites about what and who Russia took from the Germans.
Course they took something like Germans took from Russians. From telephones to helicopters. If you look at the helicopter history, you will see that everything was made by Russians.
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:13 AM   #57
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Course they took something like Germans took from Russians. From telephones to helicopters. If you look at the helicopter history, you will see that everything was made by Russians.
Why do you act like it's ok?

It's not ok that you stole from the Germans.

When you shrug it off and act like it doesn't matter the divide remains
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:17 AM   #58
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72 deaths by a single rocket failure - I think that puts Russia in the lead.
There was no rocket failure at all. It was a blast during the fueling process. There were no cosmonauts on a board and it has not been to be launched (for the complete idiots I'll explain: the engines were off). And I don't think it was just a catastrophe. I think it was a diversion because it's not so easy to burn up the rocket fuel during the fueling...

So, not the rocket has killed those people. Some guy we has made a blast during its fueling process and I guess... it somehow related to Nazis who wanted to be first to the Moon...
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:18 AM   #59
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so why were you guys 2nd in space then?
ask von braun, you were just ranting and raving about how it was all him. Nevertheless, you're dumb to exclaim USA stole von braun's work when von braun stole Goddard's.

but yay ruskie space program sputnik!
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:21 AM   #60
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There was no rocket failure at all. ..
and you asked me if i'm drunk..
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:26 AM   #61
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and you asked me if i'm drunk
I didn't ask. I said (it was a ascertaining - not a question) that you are completely drunk like shit and that's true. Was it been a rocket engine failure? Read the article, you drunk animal. It was a blast of the refueling system on the ground. The engines were not started, there were no cosmonauts aboard. Someone just pulled a trigger and TNT did its work.

Do you know what a Nazi SS officer has done all the US space program? Do you have any doubts on who has blown up the Soviet rocket ON THE GROUND when its engines were off? One more word for a drunk motherfucker: NAZI. Do you speak English? Do you understand who Nazis are? The whole so-called "US" Moon landing program was done by Nazis. The American astronauts were used like monkeys (or like dogs - as you like) by Germans.
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yes Komrade, semantics prove ruskie rocketry not kaput.

meanwhile, in ruskieville

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Old 05-22-2018, 10:39 AM   #63
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The project was closed when the cold war has ended. It was a weapon against the US ones. Two of six US shuttles have killed all their crews (every 3rd one, Karl!!!) The Soviet ones have killed... ZERO They were made to kill yours, but as I said above, their production and exploitation was aborted when Gorbachev decided that there is no reason to do it. We don't have to kill the Americans in space anymore. Actually because they can't reach it w/o our help. So what's your problem, alcoholic?
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:47 AM   #64
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I don't have a problem at all, just counting down till russia goes kaput again trying to keep up with America.

even a drunk can see that.
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but but russia was first at something 75 years ago!
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but but von braun!
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that's what I zed.
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