Why the fuck do girls have agents in the year 2018?

[BroadwayJoe69]

Porn agents were only useful back in the 70s, 80s, and 90s...it's 2018, open up a goddam burner email account and SELF BOOK

Agents are the biggest scumbags and cost their models thousands of dollars by being idiots. How do girls let this happen? What is wrong with them? It makes no sense

[beerptrol]

Originally Posted by BroadwayJoe69

Porn agents were only useful back in the 70s, 80s, and 90s...it's 2018, open up a goddam burner email account and SELF BOOK

Agents are the biggest scumbags and cost their models thousands of dollars by being idiots. How do girls let this happen? What is wrong with them? It makes no sense

Fake nic trolls and Chump are bigger scumbags

[RyuLion]

They need agents because they are lots of weirdos, stalkers, ex-Boyfriends, etc out there..

[BroadwayJoe69]

Originally Posted by RyuLion

They need agents because they are lots of weirdos, stalkers, ex-Boyfriends, etc out there..

This makes no sense they lose so much money and it's such a goddamn hassale dealing with these scumbag agents

[Brian mike]

Originally Posted by BroadwayJoe69

Agents are the biggest scumbags and cost their models thousands of dollars by being idiots. How do girls let this happen? What is wrong with them? It makes no sense

It make sense when you know there SCUMBAG Producer who like to under pay models.
Most Agent Make sure the models get her right Value.
IMO

Originally Posted by RyuLion

They need agents because they are lots of weirdos, stalkers, ex-Boyfriends, etc out there..

Agreed

[BroadwayJoe69]

Originally Posted by Brian mike

It make sense when you know there SCUMBAG Producer who like to under pay models.
Most Agent Make sure the models get her right Value.
IMO


Agreed

They get paid what they want to get paid and take out the unneccesary middle man...again, it's 2018 not 1985

[Brian mike]

Originally Posted by BroadwayJoe69

They get paid what they want to get paid and take out the unneccesary middle man...again, it's 2018 not 1985

They don't want to do the work Simple as that.

Do you have any experience working with women in Adult industry what so ever ?
I would be very curious to know your knowledge

[BroadwayJoe69]

Originally Posted by Brian mike

They don't want to do the work Simple as that.

Do you have any experience working with women in Adult industry what so ever ?
I would be very curious to know your knowledge

Yes, I email them directly and work out the pay and type of shoot. I NEVER work with an agent because it's always a bunch of bullshit back and forth and waste of time. It takes 2 seconds to log into an email account...wtf

[Brian mike]

Originally Posted by BroadwayJoe69

Yes, I email them directly and work out the pay and type of shoot. I NEVER work with an agent because it's always a bunch of bullshit back and forth and waste of time. It takes 2 seconds to log into an email account...wtf

I would bet anything you have always under pay the models whats so ever.

Hey No Middle man you know discount on the shoot

Pitty Shut the fuck up

You sounds like a Trick for fuck sakes LOL

[BroadwayJoe69]

Originally Posted by Brian mike

I would bet anything you have always under pay the models whats so ever.

Hey No Middle man you know discount on the shoot

Pitty Shut the fuck up

You sounds like a Trick for fuck sakes LOL

If we both agree what the pay is, how the fuck is that "underpaying the models"? The middle man always fucks it up and screws everything up. Some These girls are costing themselves thousands of dollars by having these morons as agents without directly booking shoots themselves. But a lot of them are starting to see it

[Brian mike]

Originally Posted by BroadwayJoe69

work out the pay and type of shoot.

NEGOCIATION would be more the right term Let's be honnest here ....

Again That's the Part Most of them will stay away from, to negociated the terms.

[BroadwayJoe69]

Originally Posted by Brian mike

NEGOCIATION would be more the right term Let's be honnest here ....

Again That's the Part Most of them will stay away from, to negociated the terms.

This makes no sense

I've seen so many of these girls begging and crying for money. Would you rather do an easy shoot for $1,000 or not do the shoot because you have an imbecile as an agent?

Time to get rid of agents and self book

[HairyChick]

Some aren’t bright enough to negotiate. They think $10k is reasonable for a video. When I produced four videos, I’d pay to fly them out here, hotel for two nights /three days, meals plus $$$ for the video and photo shoots. They were softcore so paid less but $500 was the average fifteen years ago. I paid a grand for my “best” model and my worst wanted $200. I paid her $500 and while happy, she felt she was taking advantage.

One said $500 plus 25% of the profit. After I stopped laughing, I turned her down. 50% of profit went to my videographer instead of a flat fee. My first video netted him over $4k and he simply drove down from Boston, took her to his condos rooftop pool, videod and photo shot her, filmed her and her boyfriend having sexual (never released) , drove her back and made good money. Flat fee would have been a grand or less.

Big expense was flying them in from California. They stayed with her mother one town over (dirtiest house I’ve ever seen) so no hotel or meals bill. The $200 for his flight was cheaper than room and board.

If there is demand, smart girls have friends video them and market via tubes, forums and web presence. Agents aren’t needed unless they’re dumb and wanting to be the next big pornstar. For every big breasted girl, deep throater or anal queen, fifty are waiting in line and are better.

These days you can do it yourself for a small investment. Time to plan it out and forethought to carry it out, plus brains, is a great start. Unique looks, talent and actions are a winner. If big tit videos are big, and you have them, feature a unique thing so you’ll get attention. Combine niches, too. Do microniche films featuring big tits. Just smoking or pissing, farting while wearing high heels or mini skirts, all featuring big tits? WINNER.

Don’t make an agent wealthy. Study, learn, research and invest in yourself.

[BroadwayJoe69]

Originally Posted by PamWinterReturns

Some aren’t bright enough to negotiate. They think $10k is reasonable for a video. When I produced four videos, I’d pay to fly them out here, hotel for two nights /three days, meals plus $$$ for the video and photo shoots. They were softcore so paid less but $500 was the average fifteen years ago. I paid a grand for my “best” model and my worst wanted $200. I paid her $500 and while happy, she felt she was taking advantage.

One said $500 plus 25% of the profit. After I stopped laughing, I turned her down. 50% of profit went to my videographer instead of a flat fee. My first video netted him over $4k and he simply drove down from Boston, took her to his condos rooftop pool, videod and photo shot her, filmed her and her boyfriend having sexual (never released) , drove her back and made good money. Flat fee would have been a grand or less.

Big expense was flying them in from California. They stayed with her mother one town over (dirtiest house I’ve ever seen) so no hotel or meals bill. The $200 for his flight was cheaper than room and board.

If there is demand, smart girls have friends video them and market via tubes, forums and web presence. Agents aren’t needed unless they’re dumb and wanting to be the next big pornstar. For every big breasted girl, deep throater or anal queen, fifty are waiting in line and are better.

These days you can do it yourself for a small investment. Time to plan it out and forethought to carry it out, plus brains, is a great start. Unique looks, talent and actions are a winner. If big tit videos are big, and you have them, feature a unique thing so you’ll get attention. Combine niches, too. Do microniche films featuring big tits. Just smoking or pissing, farting while wearing high heels or mini skirts, all featuring big tits? WINNER.

Don’t make an agent wealthy. Study, learn, research and invest in yourself.

Exactly

Its ridiculous and myself and others have had horrible experiences with these idiot agents who know nothing and are totally useless

[Busty2]

Originally Posted by BroadwayJoe69

Exactly

Its ridiculous and myself and others have had horrible experiences with these idiot agents who know nothing and are totally useless

You must have delt with some very shady agents/companies. In almost 50 years of shooting models in the UK and USA i have only had one issue with an agent from a reputable company. In California i used TYPE9 models and LADirect, Derek was always very professional and took a great deal of time and trouble to make sure the models turned up ready to work and on time. I was happy to pay his $100+ fee to ensure the models arrived. In this industry models are notorious for flaking, at least in Cali and if you have a location, makeup artist and male talent standing by and a model is a no show it can cost a lot in cancellation fees. In 15 years of shooting in San Diego using agents i had exactly 1 no show. Booking direct i had a no show rate of 30-40%
When shooting for clients i could not afford to have issues as it comes back on me as being unreliable, they don't want to hear excuses, they just want their content

[ilnjscb]

There are a ton of shady agents, they come and go. Anybody who doesn't know that definitely doesn't work in the business. There are a few that are really good, but they don't let just anyone work with their talent.

As for self-booking, you can get some talent that way, but not the best and most stable, usually.

In this day and age make sure you're working with tested pros and be very scrupulous with releases and paperwork.

[MatureKing]

They want Freddy

[BroadwayJoe69]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

There are a ton of shady agents, they come and go. Anybody who doesn't know that definitely doesn't work in the business. There are a few that are really good, but they don't let just anyone work with their talent.

As for self-booking, you can get some talent that way, but not the best and most stable, usually.

In this day and age make sure you're working with tested pros and be very scrupulous with releases and paperwork.

Testing is a joke. I never care or ask about testing

[CaptainHowdy]

Don't the let the ancient art of pimping die out . . .

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by BroadwayJoe69

Testing is a joke. I never care or ask about testing

Oh wow, how can you NOT care about tested models?

That's why agents are important also, they make sure the models get test every 14 days, they have to be registered there then bring back the test results to their agent or else her status gets changed on the site..

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

There are a ton of shady agents, they come and go. Anybody who doesn't know that definitely doesn't work in the business. There are a few that are really good, but they don't let just anyone work with their talent.

As for self-booking, you can get some talent that way, but not the best and most stable, usually.

In this day and age make sure you're working with tested pros and be very scrupulous with releases and paperwork.

Yes, but shady agents don't last long..

[onwebcam]

Use to having a pimp? What's even funnier is the ones who have an agent to be a cam girl.

[NALEM]

Originally Posted by Busty2

You must have delt with some very shady agents/companies. In almost 50 years of shooting models in the UK and USA i have only had one issue with an agent from a reputable company. In California i used TYPE9 models and LADirect, Derek was always very professional and took a great deal of time and trouble to make sure the models turned up ready to work and on time. I was happy to pay his $100+ fee to ensure the models arrived. In this industry models are notorious for flaking, at least in Cali and if you have a location, makeup artist and male talent standing by and a model is a no show it can cost a lot in cancellation fees. In 15 years of shooting in San Diego using agents i had exactly 1 no show. Booking direct i had a no show rate of 30-40%
When shooting for clients i could not afford to have issues as it comes back on me as being unreliable, they don't want to hear excuses, they just want their content

This!

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by Busty2

You must have delt with some very shady agents/companies. In almost 50 years of shooting models in the UK and USA i have only had one issue with an agent from a reputable company. In California i used TYPE9 models and LADirect, Derek was always very professional and took a great deal of time and trouble to make sure the models turned up ready to work and on time. I was happy to pay his $100+ fee to ensure the models arrived. In this industry models are notorious for flaking, at least in Cali and if you have a location, makeup artist and male talent standing by and a model is a no show it can cost a lot in cancellation fees. In 15 years of shooting in San Diego using agents i had exactly 1 no show. Booking direct i had a no show rate of 30-40%
When shooting for clients i could not afford to have issues as it comes back on me as being unreliable, they don't want to hear excuses, they just want their content

I bet you miss our San Diego meetings from 15 years ago..?

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Use to having a pimp? What's even funnier is the ones who have an agent to be a cam girl.

Yes, even Cam studios have employees that monitor model shows and make sure they're on schedule everyday..

[BroadwayJoe69]

Some girls are just so stupid i guess

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by BroadwayJoe69

Some girls are just so stupid i guess

Not stupid, some are just too naive, irresponsible, or even spoiled princesses.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Use to having a pimp? What's even funnier is the ones who have an agent to be a cam girl.

Yeah, that's sort of an overkill

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by RyuLion

Yes, even Cam studios have employees that monitor model shows and make sure they're on schedule everyday..

I'm talking about individual/independent cam girls ..

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by BroadwayJoe69

Testing is a joke. I never care or ask about testing

Proof: idiot who knows zero and should stfu.
If you value your health do NOT work with people like this here.

[BroadwayJoe69]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Proof: idiot who knows zero and should stfu.
If you value your health do NOT work with people like this here.

People are all scared about STDs and all that...who cares man

[Busty2]

Originally Posted by RyuLion

I bet you miss our San Diego meetings from 15 years ago..?

I miss going to the conventions, remember when we took Erica, Diane and another model(who's name eludes me) to Vegas, that was fun. Way too much drink and food . The Argentina trip was also great fun except for the flights being very bumpy !!!! What did we shoot 12 models in two days ?

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Fake nic trolls and Chump are bigger scumbags

completely irrelevant post by obsessed one trick pony ↑↑↑

[thirdworldxxx]

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by Busty2

I miss going to the conventions, remember when we took Erica, Diane and another model(who's name eludes me) to Vegas, that was fun. Way too much drink and food . The Argentina trip was also great fun except for the flights being very bumpy !!!! What did we shoot 12 models in two days ?

yeap, and there's JFK!

[NemesisEnforcer]

Originally Posted by BroadwayJoe69

People are all scared about STDs and all that...who cares man

We care about the people we work with, not just STDs but ringworm has been an issue lately.

[adultchatpay]

For easy bookings, less work for the girls.

[blackmonsters]

A decent agency helps weed out serial killers and rapist.