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Old 06-20-2018, 07:57 AM   #1
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Trade War getting worse




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https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44549712

Europe starts theirs on Friday, Canada on the 1st July, Chinas pulled back American investment 92% this year, Russia cashed out their bond holdings.

.. Canada gets pushed in to bed with China
'Cooperation is complementary' - China - Chinadaily.com.cn

Trump is truly fucking America forever.

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Frantic posting of pussy, hypocritical far Left Canadian gets worse in worrying about shit thats none of his fucking business... because he has no impulse control and is fueled by emotion in the absence of reason.
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Meanwhile in the real World

Germany will offer to scrap the EU's 10% tax on US autos: Report
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/germ...os-report.html
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Germany will offer to scrap the EU's 10% tax on US autos: Report
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/20/germ...os-report.html
read the rest - they said if both sides go to ZERO tax.
but anyway - US cars are not sold in Germany because nobody wants them.
even when they are MUCH cheaper than german cars.
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Old 06-20-2018, 10:15 AM   #6
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read the rest - they said if both sides go to ZERO tax.
but anyway - US cars are not sold in Germany because nobody wants them.
even when they are MUCH cheaper than german cars.
Germany make probably the best car ever. The Porsche Had a 911 twin Turbo in the UK and a 968 in California both amazing cars. I had a Range Rover (made in the UK) in California and had issue after issue with it!! In Maine all you can own are trucks or tanks because the roads are so bad and they lay thousands of tons of salt during the winter, your car will rust through within 3 years.
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The economy is booming (thanks Obama) and Trump will fuck it up. Watch.
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read the rest - they said if both sides go to ZERO tax.
but anyway - US cars are not sold in Germany because nobody wants them.
even when they are MUCH cheaper than german cars.
Ford was the 4th most sold car in Germany. About 1 million less than 2nd most. So again you are just arguing based on your feelings.
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read the rest - they said if both sides go to ZERO tax.
but anyway - US cars are not sold in Germany because nobody wants them.
even when they are MUCH cheaper than german cars.
Dumb nazi thommy, according to reality US sells $6 billion of automobiles per year in Germany.
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I remember when German engineering meant something; today, not so much.
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Dumb nazi thommy, according to reality US sells $6 billion of automobiles per year in Germany.
I have German friends that I met because they came to the US to purchase American cars, motorcycles, Levis, etc.

They fill up shipping containers full of American goods.
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read the rest - they said if both sides go to ZERO tax.
but anyway - US cars are not sold in Germany because nobody wants them.
even when they are MUCH cheaper than german cars.

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read the rest - they said if both sides go to ZERO tax.
but anyway - US cars are not sold in Germany because nobody wants them.
even when they are MUCH cheaper than german cars.
Thanks for pointing out Trump gets what he wants.. Which is why I posted it genius.
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Ford was the 4th most sold car in Germany. About 1 million less than 2nd most. So again you are just arguing based on your feelings.
1. this fords you are talking about are made in germany from germans for the german market.
2. they have a market share of 7%

so again YOUR arguments are based on incomplete information.
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1. this fords you are talking about are made in germany from germans for the german market.
2. they have a market share of 7%

so again YOUR arguments are based on incomplete information.
Its the same with ford Australia, manufacturing had zip to do with the parent company, cars were designed in USA but made here from local parts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Australia

On 23 May 2013 Ford Australia announced that it would stop making cars after 88 years due to uncompetitive manufacturing costs and lacklustre sales.

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I have German friends that I met because they came to the US to purchase American cars, motorcycles, Levis, etc.

They fill up shipping containers full of American goods.
loooool - yes so all is fine !
i am pretty sure that your friends will do that always when they are in US and your economy will grow to sky.

us can proudly export 6 billion $ cars into the german market - the LOCAL german car market ALONE is 150 billion per year plus 400 billion in exports.

i don´t know where you guys lost your brain.
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trumps trade war is the intellectual equivalent of ugly people banning pretty people in hopes of becoming attractive once the pretty people are gone

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A very stupid dispute about cars... If you are a rich man, course you will never buy an American car. You will buy German, Italian and English cars like Bentley, Mercedes, BWM, Porsche, Lamborghini and Ferrari. But if you belong to a middle or even low class, you will be happy with Ford, Nissan, Kia, Peugeot, Skoda etc. So I don't see any reason to argue about, because everything depends on how much you can afford to spend on your cars.
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if people wanted american shit: they would buy it
Most if not all big box stores stock nothing but Made in - China, Japan, Indonesia, hell, I seen items for sale made in North Korea. Far and few in between do I see items made in the USA. It all outsourced to be manufactured at a cheaper production rate overseas, making your post one of the most ridiculous I've read yet.
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The economy is booming (thanks Obama) and Trump will fuck it up. Watch.
Lets review Fact Check on Obama's final days :

● The federal debt owed to the public rose 128 percent. Deficits were rising as Obama departed.
● Home prices rose 20 percent. But the home ownership rate hit the lowest point in half a century.

● Illegal immigration declined: The Border Patrol caught 35 percent fewer people trying to get into the U.S. from Mexico.
(What did Obama do at the border that was so great but lets laugh at Trump)

● Production of handguns rose 192 percent, to a record level.
(Lets trash Trump for supporting the NRA but look at Obama with handguns)

● The murder rate dropped to the lowest on record in 2014, then rose and finished at about the same rate as when Obama took office.

I voted for Obama, twice as a matter of fact. Keep in mind though, Democrat or Republican, they are all liars and really can not do much without the approval of Congress. After Congress it has to go through the Senate (treaty approvals). Anytime in between whatever it is that's trying to be passed can be veto'd and as our Government is famous for, nothing gets done.

On the other hand, I can not see how the United States can allow other countries to Tariff the crap out of the US while some Americans feel it's no big deal.
I travel a great deal on business to foreign countries. Their infrastructure is spot on. I return to the States, pot-holes on the runway, bridges collapsing. Just like our immigration policy with Mexico and Cuba, enough is enough.

Unless you prefer to see the United States run in to the ground, which it currently is.

Why on earth would the illegals want to now come to the United States ? - This is not the United States of yesteryear. Mexico has a lot of our jobs. Why are the Mexican people venturing North to the States where there is nothing for them besides to work picking fruits and vegetables in the fields for pennies on the dollar.

I don't get it. United States citizenship isn't what it used to be. Right now we are a melting pot and it's a shame Canada isn't taking note of what has happened to the United States.

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China-U.S. trade war hits Daimler profit, may sweep sector
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I rarely reply to your post because .... they are stupid

I see that you believe that USA policies stop at the borders , that no other economies are affected, just USA, americans ...

It doesn't work this way .... The whole world economies are impacted ( as much as if Chinas decided to dump your debt ) and individuals ,such as myself, are impacted in their stock and mutual funds holding ...

Same when you stupid fuckers invades countries .... The flow of refugees , that you create in the name of freedom and democracy ( - - ), are handled by most countries other then the USA ( America Alone ) .

So it is his fucking business , my fucking business and everyone fucking businesses .
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Same when you stupid fuckers invades countries .... The flow of refugees , that you create in the name of freedom and democracy - - ), are handled by most countries other then the USA ( America Alone ) .
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Hate to admit it. We are the first to invade countries / overthrow governments / assassinate leaders / leave countries in ruins. I served 14 years. On many deployments, I thought to myself why / what are we doing here.
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I rarely reply to your post because .... they are stupid

I see that you believe that USA policies stop at the borders , that no other economies are affected, just USA, americans ...

It doesn't work this way .... The whole world economies are impacted ( as much as if Chinas decided to dump your debt ) and individuals ,such as myself, are impacted in their stock and mutual funds holding ...

Same when you stupid fuckers invades countries .... The flow of refugees , that you create in the name of freedom and democracy ( - - ), are handled by most countries other then the USA ( America Alone ) .

So it is his fucking business , my fucking business and everyone fucking businesses .
You're just another far left fuckwit who has NEVER said a positive thing about the US. Ever. You just bash bash bash.

But of course, you won't go so far as to stop doing business with the USA... because,... you're a fucking hypocrite.

Americans don't say jack shit in general about Canada but you fucking self righteous, self loathing idiots can't help yourselves because you know that you're irrelevant in all matters not hockey or maple syrup related, no one fucking cares what you think.

So spare me the "it affects...." bullshit. You always rely on that argument as you talk shit and attack the US, country, its people, its policies, it''s politicians and so on, every fucking day. Man the fuck up and stop doing business with Americans. Stop being a hypocrite.

Your problem is similar to **********s. You are extreme in your views. You loathe living in the shadow of the USA because it is a constant reminder that the world doesn't give a shit what you think. At least Mark isn't intentionally a self righteous dick. He has honest intentions and poor impulse control. You are a dick. You always have been. And today, just as you were 15 years ago, talking shit non stop about your betters.

If Canada wasn't irrelevant, full of passive aggressive assholes and you didn't have 1/3rd of the nation trying to break away to form a nation of French speaking super cunts, you might have a voice on the world stage.

Instead you have a super thin, waif-like cross dresser who looks like he's 3 more hormone treatments from getting the operation running your nation like the only job of prime minister is to complete his multi-cultural cross dressing world tour to show "he cares" as others, in other nations are worried about actual problems in the world.

Your GDP is literally on par with Mexico. You know.. the place known for donkey sex shows and lawlessness. That's how awesome Canada is doing. With more natural resources than much of the planet, you're getting crushed economically by a bunch of dickheads in a desert that spend 1/2 the day napping and drinking beer and tequila.

Kudos to you, dipshit.

You fucking pussies still can't even separate yourselves from England.... which anyone with a set of balls could do with a post card.




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You're just another far left fuckwit who has NEVER said a positive thing about the US. Ever. You just bash bash bash.

But of course, you won't go so far as to stop doing business with the USA... because,... you're a fucking hypocrite.

Americans don't say jack shit in general about Canada but you fucking self righteous, self loathing idiots can't help yourselves because you know that you're irrelevant.

So spare me the "it affects...." bullshit. You always rely on that argument as you talk shit and attack another country, its people, its policies, it''s politicians and so on, every fucking day.

Your problem is similar to **********s. You are extreme in your views. You loathe living in the shadow of the USA because it is a constant reminder that the world doesn't give a shit what you think. At least Mark isn't intentionally a self righteous dick. He has honest intentions and poor impulse control. You are a dick. You always have been. And today, just as you were 15 years ago, talking shit non stop about your betters.

If Canada wasn't irrelevant, full of passive aggressive assholes and you didn't have 1/3rd of the nation trying to break away to form a nation of super cunts, you might have a voice on the world stage.

Instead you have a super thin, waif like cross dresser who's only mission is to complete his multi-cultural cross dressing world tour to show "he cares" as others are worried about actual problems in the world.

Your GDP is literally on par with Mexico. You know.. the place known for donkey sex shows and lawlessness. That's how awesome Canada is doing. With more natural resources than much of the planet, you're getting crushed economically by a bunch of dickheads in a desert that spend 1/2 the day napping and drinking beer and tequila. Kudos to you, dipshit.


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Most if not all big box stores stock nothing but Made in - China, Japan, Indonesia, hell, I seen items for sale made in North Korea. Far and few in between do I see items made in the USA. It all outsourced to be manufactured at a cheaper production rate overseas, making your post one of the most ridiculous I've read yet.
you only see a part of the whole thing.

1. if goods are made in US the prosperity from the normal and poorer people will be far lower because they have to buy less for the money they have.

2. most of US exports are based on cheap imports of raw materials and parts what can easily be done with cheap wages. if this all will be made in US these exports will be too expensive to compete on the global market. means: this industries will be fucked also.

3. imports from countries like china are creating prosperity in this countries. how else can china fight back? they are one of the biggest buyers of US goods.
with WHAT should they pay it if they don´t sell?

4. trump´s tradewar nobody will win. the whole world economy will be disturbed. but US debts are already that high that i don´t have a clue from what this losses will be paid?

5. on top of that trumps tax reform will bring anyway less money in the countries wallet.
lower wins (or losses) AND lower taxes - how should that work out ?

bush tried that game before and the result after just a few month was that 200.000 US-jobs got lost. so the experience and knowledge is already there - what will be different on trump´s trade war except that the US-debt today is around 8 trillion higher as in the time of bush?

trump thinks he can go into a tradewar with the whole world but this rest of the world will union and make their own trading deals.
who will be the looser at the end ?
I think one don´t have to be Nostradamus to know the answer.
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A very stupid dispute about cars... If you are a rich man, course you will never buy an American car. You will buy German, Italian and English cars like Bentley, Mercedes, BWM, Porsche, Lamborghini and Ferrari. But if you belong to a middle or even low class, you will be happy with Ford, Nissan, Kia, Peugeot, Skoda etc. So I don't see any reason to argue about, because everything depends on how much you can afford to spend on your cars.
Since it all depends on how rich you are, who buys ruskie clown cars?
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Same when you stupid fuckers invades countries .... The flow of refugees , that you create in the name of freedom and democracy ( - - ), are handled by most countries other then the USA ( America Alone ) .
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On the other hand, We, The United States never invaded India, Mexico, Guatemala, Cuba or Pakistan. Seems they are the main nationalities wanting entry / United States citizenship.

So Directfiesta, since you're pro Canada, why has downtown Toronto turned itself into a mini-Pakistan. Do not argue that fact. I was in Toronto last month.

Why do I need a passport to enter Canada as your borders are wide open to the world who feels like calling Canada their new home.
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You know who is not concerned about a trade war?

Warren Buffet. He's a lot smarter and much less biased than canadian op.
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And some of those are in this thread.

We are already in a trade war and have been for a long time.

Time to wake up.

Where is our economics professor thommy to explain what balance of trade is? What happens when your balance of trade remains the way it is AND the dollar stops being the global reserve currency?
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Since it all depends on how rich you are, who buys ruskie clown cars?
It depends... Which exactly cars do you mean? Russian trucks like Kamaz are not bad at all: Dakar Rally - Wikipedia - as you can see, they are winning almost all rallies for many years. I don't see any American trucks in the list of winners. Do you?

Maybe you mean passenger cars like Lada X-Ray and Lada Vesta (you can click the links to see which exactly cars I'm talking about)? These are almost the same shit like your Fords. Maybe yours of the same class are a bit better, but not significantly.

The problem is that they (the new Ladas) are very overpriced. I may buy such a car for $800 USD or so, but not for $12K USD as they being sold in auto salons. Only an idiot will buy it for such an unreal price. So personally I'm absolutely ok with Nissan right now. Nissan is much better than Ford or Lada for sure.
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Old 06-21-2018, 07:19 AM   #36
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I have German friends that I met because they came to the US to purchase American cars, motorcycles, Levis, etc.

They fill up shipping containers full of American goods.
Used items... people do that all over the world. They come here and buy up used items to resell in their home countries..
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It depends... Which exactly cars do you mean? Russian trucks like Kamaz are not bad at all: Dakar Rally - Wikipedia - as you can see, they are winning almost all rallies for many years. I don't see any American trucks in the list of winners. Do you?

Maybe you mean Lada X-Ray and Lada Vesta (you can click the links to see which exactly cars I'm talking about)? These are almost the same shit like your Fords. Maybe yours of the same class are a bit better, but not significantly.

The problem is that they (the new Ladas) are very overpriced. I may buy such a car for $800 USD or so, but not for $12K USD as they being sold in auto salons. Only an idiot will buy it for such an unreal price. So personally I'm absolutely ok with Nissan right now.

exactly. no one but ruskie buy ruskie cars. ruskie shouldn't even be in this thread.
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exactly. no one but ruskie buy ruskie cars.
Only idiots buy them here. The same applies to your Fords. Watch any video from Russian streets. Poor people (especially in villages) still drive old Ladas made in the USSR. Others prefer cars made in the EU, Japan and South Korea, because new Ladas like Fords are garbage and a waste of money. I mean, they are ok, but only for a 10x less price.

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ruskie shouldn't even be in this thread.
So you clown are the one to decide who should be in some particular thread or not? Let me guess, you think you are a new moderator here? Go visit a doctor for MRI of your brain, because it's seems to be damaged.
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you're the ruskie exclaiming the car debate is stupid when the fact is no one but poor ruskie buys ruskie cars.

you're the ruskie comparing ruskie junk to American cars like Ford.

The fact is USA auto manufacturers hold 3 of the top 10 best car manufacturers spots, Germany has 3 and Asia splits the remaining 4 spots.

can you see the fact that ruskie cars are not even on the list.

no one gives a shit about ruskie cars, i.e., it makes zero sense for a ruskie to be commenting on cars.
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you're the ruskie exclaiming the car debate is stupid when the fact is no one but poor ruskie buys ruskie cars.
Read my post above. Poor people here still drive the cars made more than 20 years ago, because they can't afford even a new bicycle (they definitely have no $12K USD to buy a new Lada). Others who have a job, prefer European and Asian cars, because for the price of Lada, you can buy a normal car made in Japan, RK etc. They don't buy Ladas and Fords. Maybe some mentally ill "patriots" buy them, but only to discover that they've got some overpriced piece of shit and to sell it after a year when they will be completely annoyed by constant problems. I'm am I typical Russian, but I have never owned Lada or Ford.

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can you see the fact that ruskie cars are not even on the list.
Are you blind or just really that stupid? Open the link, clown: Dakar Rally - Wikipedia - almost all trucks there are Russian and no single American one.
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The fact is USA auto manufacturers hold 3 of the top 10 best car manufacturers spots,
source?....
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Warren Buffett, Lloyd Blankfein and Paul Tudor Jones all agree the blustery trade rhetoric between the nations is just a part of the negotiations.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/19/inve...trade-war.html
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Most reliable cars win the real races in a fair competition with other cars. Paper ratings are nothing.
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ruskie defensive that no one cares about ruskie cars.


not surprised.
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:29 AM   #46
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1. this fords you are talking about are made in germany from germans for the german market.
2. they have a market share of 7%

so again YOUR arguments are based on incomplete information.
Are you this brain dead? You said American cars are not sold in germany. Ford is the 4th most sold car in Germany. %'s aside it's 4th so it's not only sold, it's popular.

Made in Germany? yeah of course, that's how things work. Your are moving the goal posts. Your post was wrong, I showed why it was wrong, don't change what you said and then call me wrong.
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Frantic posting of pussy, hypocritical far Left Canadian gets worse in worrying about shit thats none of his fucking business... because he has no impulse control and is fueled by emotion in the absence of reason.
There is now a Trade War between Canada and the US, so it is my business. I want to talk about it and see what other people in Canada and other countries in the same line of business that I am in, think about it.

My original post had no comment on it at all, so there's no emotion. It's a video announcing the new tafiffs, and a Canadian businessman who does alot of trade in both of our countries, talking about it. That's it.

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I rarely reply to your post because .... they are stupid

I see that you believe that USA policies stop at the borders , that no other economies are affected, just USA, americans ...

It doesn't work this way .... The whole world economies are impacted ( as much as if Chinas decided to dump your debt ) and individuals ,such as myself, are impacted in their stock and mutual funds holding ...

Same when you stupid fuckers invades countries .... The flow of refugees , that you create in the name of freedom and democracy ( - - ), are handled by most countries other then the USA ( America Alone ) .

So it is his fucking business , my fucking business and everyone fucking businesses .




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Is what Trump wants, what you want? Is what Trump is doing good for you?


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You're just another far left fuckwit who has NEVER said a positive thing about the US. Ever. You just bash bash bash.
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You know who is not concerned about a trade war?

Warren Buffet. He's a lot smarter and much less biased than canadian op.
I'm not biased - I haven't commented on this at all. I want to know what your comments are - I have none to offer.

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ruskie shouldn't even be in this thread.
Russian people should definately share their opinions in this thread.

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4621.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ners_of_Russia
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dumb nazi thommy needs to point his finger at Americans so he can try and feel better about being a dumb nazi thommy.
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I'm not biased - I haven't commented on this at all. I want to know what your comments are - I have none to offer.



Russian people should definately share their opinions in this thread.

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4621.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ners_of_Russia
2 things ruskie has no impact on and that's trade between western nations and cars.

this video reminds me of you out in the real world
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There is now a Trade War between Canada and the US, so it is my business. I want to talk about it and see what other people in Canada and other countries in the same line of business that I am in, think about it.
where's your outrage re: your leader's inability to make a deal with a (according to you) dumb guy like trump?

where's your outrage re: your leader politicizing the G7 and backstabbing trump to gain political points with uneducated canadians?
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