Bladewire is breaking 2257 law

[american pervert]

well, it looks like Chickenwire IS breaking the 2257 law.

you are supposed to have the physical address of where your records are kept, not a mail drop

2257 | Naked Men

COR address- 32932 PCH 14-302, monarch beach CA 92629

That is a UPS store. So if the Feds show up and want to check his records, I highly doubt the UPS store keeps them in a file cabinet in the back office.

Maybe someone needs to have the Feds check on him to make sure everything is kosher

[OneHungLo]

Bladewire can be annoying but I wouldn't go fucking with his business or any of these other loons' businesses on here.

[EddyTheDog]

I doubt anyone would be sad enough to bother reporting it - It would make them pretty pathetic...

[sarettah]

From August:

https://www.freespeechcoalition.com/...-keeping-case/

In the final judgment rendered by federal Judge Michael Baylson on August 3rd, large parts of the record-keeping regulations were declared unconstitutional on First Amendment grounds; an earlier FSC victory against the regulations on Fourth Amendment grounds came from a Third Circuit Court of Appeals ruling.

For the time being, adult producers should remain compliant with 2257, as the government will likely appeal. However, if there is no appeal, or if the appeal is denied, this ruling will stand and:

Primary producers will no longer need to keep records pursuant to 2257. (However, they should maintain the FSC Age Verification form to demonstrate that they have checked the ID of each model on their set.)

Secondary producers will no longer be required to maintain any records pursuant to 2257.

Webcam companies, tube sites, clips and other sites will no longer be required to keep model information or records unless they are a primary producer. (However, they should continue to verify that all content on their sites is produced legally, and by those over the age of majority.)

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[JSWENSON]

You don't fuck with someone's business, retard.

[american pervert]

Are you saying that Chickenwire doesnt need to have his address correct for 2257?

Here is the copy from his 2257 page-

"
The owners and operators of this Website are not the primary producer (as that term is defined in 18 U.S.C. Section 2257 and 28 C.F.R. Part 75) of all the visual content contained on the Website. The Custodian of Records for content on this Website for which the owners and operators of this Website are the primary producer is: 32932 PCH 14-302, monarch beach CA 92629"

That means that the content his claims he produces has the records being kept at that address.

Here is a screen shot-
https://imgur.com/a/xpXeHzt

Originally Posted by sarettah

From August:

https://www.freespeechcoalition.com/...-keeping-case/



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[ghjghj]

BLADEWIRE MEDIA, INC. is a business entity formed in Delaware and is a CORPORATION - GENERAL under local business registration regulations. Assigned the registration number 5072263, according to the registry, it is now of unknown status.

https://icis.corp.delaware.gov/ecorp...amesearch.aspx

When a Delaware corporation is formed, its directors need not be identified on the Certificate of Formation.

However, every Delaware corporation must file an annual report (in connection with paying the annual franchise tax), and the corporation’s directors and officers must be identified on that report.

Copies of annual reports are available to the public for a small fee. (That information is not available online.)

[american pervert]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Bladewire can be annoying but I wouldn't go fucking with his business or any of these other loons' businesses on here.

it would be the ultimate form of irony if a pornographer who accuses the Trump admin of breaking the law to be busted by the Trump admin for breaking the law.

[american pervert]

Originally Posted by JSWENSON

You don't fuck with someone's business, retard.

people who go around being assholes to others better have their shit straight.

[american pervert]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I doubt anyone would be sad enough to bother reporting it - It would make them pretty pathetic...

as pathetic as your posts.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by american pervert

Are you saying that Chickenwire doesnt need to have his address correct for 2257?

Here is the copy from his 2257 page-

"
The owners and operators of this Website are not the primary producer (as that term is defined in 18 U.S.C. Section 2257 and 28 C.F.R. Part 75) of all the visual content contained on the Website. The Custodian of Records for content on this Website for which the owners and operators of this Website are the primary producer is: 32932 PCH 14-302, monarch beach CA 92629"

That means that the content his claims he produces has the records being kept at that address.

Here is a screen shot-
https://imgur.com/a/xpXeHzt

If you do not have to keep records then you no longer need a record keeper. If you no longer need a record keeper then you no longer need a record keeper address.

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[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by american pervert

people who go around being assholes to others better have their shit straight.

You really don't see the irony do you?..

[mikeet]

Originally Posted by american pervert

people who go around being assholes to others better have their shit straight.

Originally Posted by american pervert

as pathetic as your posts.

[american pervert]

Originally Posted by sarettah

If you do not have to keep records then you no longer need a record keeper. If you no longer need a record keeper then you no longer need a record keeper address.

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are you retarded? he makes and posts his own content. hence this line-

"The Custodian of Records for content on this Website for which the owners and operators of this Website are the primary producer is: 32932 PCH 14-302, monarch beach CA 92629"

He makes content, he need to keep records of content he makes, that makes him a record holder.

[american pervert]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

You really don't see the irony do you?..

I do!
and im not the one making porn and putting up incorrect 2257 info.

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by american pervert

well, it looks like Chickenwire IS breaking the 2257 law.

you are supposed to have the physical address of where your records are kept, not a mail drop

2257 | Naked Men

COR address- 32932 PCH 14-302, monarch beach CA 92629

That is a UPS store. So if the Feds show up and want to check his records, I highly doubt the UPS store keeps them in a file cabinet in the back office.

Maybe someone needs to have the Feds check on him to make sure everything is kosher

That is correct

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Bladewire can be annoying but I wouldn't go fucking with his business or any of these other loons' businesses on here.

I agree with this too

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by american pervert

are you retarded? he makes and posts his own content. hence this line-

"The Custodian of Records for content on this Website for which the owners and operators of this Website are the primary producer is: 32932 PCH 14-302, monarch beach CA 92629"

He makes content, he need to keep records of content he makes, that makes him a record holder.

According to what the FSC put out about the court decision in August, PRIMARY (those who actually produce the content) producers no longer have to keep records.

I do not know if there has been an appeal or not yet, FSC reccomends that you keep on keeping records till all the fall out finishes but according to the court decision a Primary Producer no longer has to keep records.

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[american pervert]

Originally Posted by sarettah

According to what the FSC put out about the court decision in August, PRIMARY (those who actually produce the content) producers no longer have to keep records.

I do not know if there has been an appeal or not yet, FSC reccomends that you keep on keeping records till all the fall out finishes but according to the court decision a Primary Producer no longer has to keep records.

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Read the ruling, this doesnt make sense.

1.Primary producers will no longer need to keep records pursuant to 2257. (However, they should maintain the FSC Age Verification form to demonstrate that they have checked the ID of each model on their set.)

2.Secondary producers will no longer be required to maintain any records pursuant to 2257.

3.Webcam companies, tube sites, clips and other sites will no longer be required to keep model information or records unless they are a primary producer. (However, they should continue to verify that all content on their sites is produced legally, and by those over the age of majority.)

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What doesn't make sense, why would a primary producer not have to keep records, but if you look at the 3rd part it says. " no longer be required to keep model information or records unless they are a primary producer. "

So since he is an "other site" he would have to keep records since he is the primary producer.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by american pervert

Read the ruling, this doesnt make sense.

1.Primary producers will no longer need to keep records pursuant to 2257. (However, they should maintain the FSC Age Verification form to demonstrate that they have checked the ID of each model on their set.)

2.Secondary producers will no longer be required to maintain any records pursuant to 2257.

3.Webcam companies, tube sites, clips and other sites will no longer be required to keep model information or records unless they are a primary producer. (However, they should continue to verify that all content on their sites is produced legally, and by those over the age of majority.)

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What doesn't make sense, why would a primary producer not have to keep records, but if you look at the 3rd part it says. " no longer be required to keep model information or records unless they are a primary producer. "

So since he is an "other site" he would have to keep records since he is the primary producer.

Dude, I just said what the FSC said. And yes, you are pointing out something that I missed. So, either they have it wrong or something is worded wrong.

I looked at the actual decision and I don't get any of that from what I found, but I suck at legalese. I did get that the warrant-less searches are unconstitutional.

The decision I found was from June and it is at http://www2.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/133681p1.pdf

That is the last FSC case in the 3rd district that findlaw lists.

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/search.h...art=&date_end=

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[sarettah]

Here is the actual decision that FSC is talking about. I linked the wrong one. The one I linked was the third circuit, they declared the warrantless inspections to be unconstitutional.

This one finds the record keeping provisions unconstitutional. Primary producers are required to affirm legal age, but there is no record keeping provision. If the government can prove that a producer did not check age they can fine them. I am not sure how all that would work.

Here is the actual decision from August:

https://www.paed.uscourts.gov/docume...s/18D0546P.pdf

a. 18 U.S.C. §§ 2257 and 2257A and their implementing regulations, 28 C.F.R. §§
75.1, et seq., are unconstitutional under the First Amendment as applied to
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secondary producers within the meaning of 28 C.F.R. § 75.1(c)(2).

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b. The record-keeping requirements set forth in 18 U.S.C. §§ 2257(a), (b)(3), (c),
2257A(a), (b)(3), (c) and 28 C.F.R. §§ 75.2-.4; and the associated criminal
prohibitions set forth in 18 U.S.C. §§ 2257(f)(1)-(2), 2257A(f)(1)-(2) are
unconstitutional under the First Amendment.

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c. The labeling requirements set forth in 18 U.S.C. §§ 2257(e)(1), (e)(2);
2257A(e)(1), (e)(2) and 28 C.F.R. §§ 75.6, 75.8, and the associated criminal
prohibitions set forth in 18 U.S.C. §§ 2257(f)(3), (f)(4); 2257A(f)(3), (f)(4), are
unconstitutional under the First Amendment.

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d. Except for prosecutions of primary producers for violation of the identification
and age verification requirements of 18 U.S.C. § 2257(b) and 18 U.S.C. §
2257A(b), the criminal penalties set forth in 18 U.S.C. §§ 2257(i), 2257A(i) are
unconstitutional under the First Amendment.

The labeling provisions, which were struck down, is where it states all the shit about a custodian of records and the address and all that.

So, as of right now, the record keeping is not required and the labeling of where records are kept is not required. At least according to this decision and the FSC.

2257(b) is what is referenced in d above. It says:

(b) Any person to whom subsection (a) applies shall, with respect to every performer portrayed in a visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct—

(1) ascertain, by examination of an identification document containing such information, the performer’s name and date of birth, and require the performer to provide such other indicia of his or her identity as may be prescribed by regulations;

(2) ascertain any name, other than the performer’s present and correct name, ever used by the performer including maiden name, alias, nickname, stage, or professional name; and

(3) record in the records required by subsection (a) the information required by paragraphs (1) and (2) of this subsection and such other identifying information as may be prescribed by regulation.

But 2257(b)(3) was determined to be unconstitutional. So, you still have to check ids but you do NOT have to have a record of it.


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[american pervert]

this is the link i was looking at

FSC Summary

regardless, he had this improper info post long before this ruling.

[ANAL PASTE]

oops. Pink shoes got busted.

[CaptainHowdy]

If I was gay I wouldn't mind going to jail . . .

[crockett]

Originally Posted by american pervert

well, it looks like Chickenwire IS breaking the 2257 law.

you are supposed to have the physical address of where your records are kept, not a mail drop

2257 | Naked Men

COR address- 32932 PCH 14-302, monarch beach CA 92629

That is a UPS store. So if the Feds show up and want to check his records, I highly doubt the UPS store keeps them in a file cabinet in the back office.

Maybe someone needs to have the Feds check on him to make sure everything is kosher

2257 was over ruled some time ago.. Yet another failed relic of the Republicans and George Bush trying to create bigger govt in form of a police state..

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

I wouldn't go fucking with his business or any of these other loons' businesses on here.

Thanks, same here. I've never attempted to fuck with people's lives here

Nics like Diomed & American Pervert are the exact reason people left GFY and the ones left don't post their sites. They're also the reason we don't post inside valuable info here. Helping people here publicly means helping a few who will fuck anyone over for anything they can

[DBS.US]

I'm sure he just has the information on a thumb drive sitting in his mail box.

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Thanks, same here. I've never attempted to fuck with people's lives here

Nics like Diomed & American Pervert are the exact reason people left GFY and the ones left don't post their sites. They're also the reason we don't post inside valuable info here. Helping people here publicly means helping a few who will fuck anyone over for anything they can

Sure Bladey.. THATS the reason everyone doesn't log in anymore. My five threads and this guys thread.. Right.

Bro.. You've been trolling for 2 years straight 24/7 here.. You talk outrageous shit at people constantly (and have done so in their business threads as well - to the point Eric had to get involved).

You've accused EVERYONE and their mother of being a 'fake nic'. Literally bullet pointing every post of theirs with the same canned response in an attempt to invalidate anything/everything they say.

All bullshit aside, can you not see the irony here?

You want to play "human" when it pisses you off right? How convenient.

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Bladewire can be annoying but I wouldn't go fucking with his business or any of these other loons' businesses on here.

I agree with this as well, although I did list one of his website urls (wasn't a big secret, was on his Facebook).

But shit like that happens when your constantly pissing on people.

Bladewire obviously doesn't believe this sentiment.. Otherwise he wouldn't constantly be attacking AVN and trying to tie them up with hate speech. Gee, to what effect I wonder?

DukeSkyWalker was right.. Bladewire has two sides 1.) Shill mode 2.) Human

I've got zero problems with Bladewire the human

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Diomed

Sure Bladey.. THATS the reason everyone doesn't log in anymore. My five threads and this guys thread.. Right.

Bro.. You've been trolling for 2 years straight 24/7 here.. You talk outrageous shit at people constantly (and have done so in their business threads as well - to the point Eric had to get involved).

You've accused EVERYONE and their mother of being a 'fake nic'. Literally bullet pointing every post of theirs with the same canned response in an attempt to invalidate anything/everything they say.

All bullshit aside, can you not see the irony here?

You want to play "human" when it pisses you off right? How convenient.

See folks, this is what GFY is now.

Diomed & American Pervert nics trying to fuck with people's businesses.

Faceless nameless troll stalking your Facebook's and trying to fuck with what he thinks is your business because he made a bet online and backed out of it, he's humiliated (by his own actions) so he bumps 13 year old threads of yours, stalks your Facebook, stalks servers he thinks are yours then makes threads saying someone should call the feds on you.

Any other board these two nics would have been banned for their actions.

GFY is not a safe place to discuss real business or your websites because of Diomed & American Pervert.

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

See folks, this is what GFY is now.

Diomed & American Pervert nics trying to fuck with people's businesses.

Faceless nameless troll stalking your Facebook's and trying to fuck with what he thinks is your business because he made a bet online and backed out of it, he's humiliated (by his own actions) so he bumps 13 year old threads of yours, stalks your Facebook, stalks servers he thinks are yours then makes threads saying someone should call the feds on you.

Any other board these two nics would have be banned for their actions.

GFY is not a safe place to discuss real business or your websites because of Diomed & American Pervert.

Its precisely this type of manipulation that earns you the guff you so avidly seem to despise.

Carry on.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Diomed

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You're blocked now. Whenever you post here you obsess on me, and you blame me. Your post history shows that all of your posts & threads this year are about me and to me primarily. Not my thing

[Diomed]

You showed me a screen cap of me being blocked a year ago dumb dumb.

Just like you did everyone else whom you still reply to.

If you can't take the heat... Get out of the house and stop wearing masks.

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You're blocked now. Whenever you post here you obsess on me, and you blame me. Your post history shows that all of your posts & threads this year are about me and to me primarily. Not my thing

Ps,

You are correct.

I do blame you for single handedly turning this board into a shit swap..

Paid shills will always be outed.

[HairyChick]

I was extremely negative about 2257 and fought hard against it. I had a site against it, met with one of Kennedy's reps, published against it. I felt proof of age was enough to provide but all producers and distributors had to, by law, keep those documents in the office of their attorney only. No copies in their office or home that could be stolen.

Finally, the courts are recognizing the overreaching being done because of Tracy. One company not being careful left an industry exposed.

I'm remembering an idea I had back then to make this safer. It's still plausible but I've lost contact with the movie producers I knew then. Someday, I'll find the right person to approach about this. For a small investment .... Ah, the good old days when ideas were there and remembered

Now we no longer have to put a notice on our sites to stalker and killers, stating "this is where you can find PORN STAR NAME 's address, date of birth, real name and more. Break in and grab it."

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by PamWinterReturns

I was extremely negative about 2257 and fought hard against it. I had a site against it, met with one of Kennedy's reps, published against it. I felt proof of age was enough to provide but all producers and distributors had to, by law, keep those documents in the office of their attorney only. No copies in their office or home that could be stolen.

Finally, the courts are recognizing the overreaching being done because of Tracy. One company not being careful left an industry exposed.

I'm remembering an idea I had back then to make this safer. It's still plausible but I've lost contact with the movie producers I knew then. Someday, I'll find the right person to approach about this. For a small investment .... Ah, the good old days when ideas were there and remembered

Now we no longer have to put a notice on our sites to stalker and killers, stating "this is where you can find PORN STAR NAME 's address, date of birth, real name and more. Break in and grab it."