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Old 11-19-2018, 04:26 PM   #1
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Trump recalls troops from southern border - after reports they were extremely bored




Yet another Trump failure

“When you send a soldier on a dubious mission, with no military value, over Thanksgiving, it doesn’t help morale at all,” Rep. Anthony Brown (D-MD), an Iraq War veteran, told the Times.

Troops at U.S.-Mexican border to start coming home

The 5,800 troops who were rushed to the Southwest border amid President Donald Trump’s pre-election warnings about a refugee caravan will start coming home as early as this week

Democrats and Republicans have criticized the deployment as a ploy by the president to use active-duty military forces as a prop to try to stem Republican losses in this month’s midterm elections.

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"Our end date right now is 15 December, and I've got no indications from anybody that we'll go beyond that," said Army Lt. Gen. Jeffrey Buchanan. | Guillermo Arias/AFP/Getty Images

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Troops at U.S.-Mexican border to start coming home
By WESLEY MORGAN 11/19/2018 04:15 PM EST Updated 11/19/2018 05:36 PM EST
The 5,800 troops who were rushed to the Southwest border amid President Donald Trump’s pre-election warnings about a refugee caravan will start coming home as early as this week — just as some of those migrants are beginning to arrive.

Democrats and Republicans have criticized the deployment as a ploy by the president to use active-duty military forces as a prop to try to stem Republican losses in this month’s midterm elections.

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The general overseeing the deployment told POLITICO on Monday that the first troops will start heading home in the coming days as some are already unneeded, having completed the missions they were sent for. The returning service members include engineering and logistics units whose jobs included placing concertina wire and other barriers to limit access to ports of entry at the U.S.-Mexican border.

The decision to begin pulling back comes just weeks after Trump ordered the highly unusual deployment.

In previous cases where the military deployed to beef up the border, the forces consisted of part-time National Guard troops under the command of state governors who backed up U.S. Customs and Border Protection and other law enforcement agencies.

But the newly deployed troops, most of them unarmed and from support units, come from the active-duty military, a concession the Pentagon made after Trump insisted that the deployment include "not just the National Guard."

Buchanan confirmed previous reports that the military had rejected a request from the Department of Homeland Security for an armed force to back up Border Patrol agents in the event of a violent confrontation.

"That is a law enforcement task, and the secretary of defense does not have the authority to approve that inside the homeland," Buchanan said.

The closure of one entry point earlier Monday along the California border near Tijuana, Mexico, was only partial and did not require more drastic measures, Buchanan said.

"About half of the lanes were closed this morning but that’s it," he reported. "No complete closures."

Other ports might be closed fully in the future, he said, but he was not anticipating any need to take more drastic measures.

"If CBP have reliable information that one of their ports is about to get rushed with a mob, or something like that that could put their agents at risk, they could ask us to completely close the port," Buchanan said. "You understand the importance of commerce at these ports. Nobody in CBP wants to close a port unless they’re actually driven to do so."

The troop deployment should start trailing off as engineer and other logistics troops wind down their mission of building base camps and fortifying ports of entry for the Border Patrol.
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Orange man bad thread #22 for the day.

Bladewire 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, 5.0 and 6.0 has GOT to hit his quotas to get paid

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Earn that money Bladewire 1.

Don't forget to bring BW 2,3,4, and 5 in here for more "group think".

Wonder what the motive could be for 7+ hours a day of toil... Oh yeah that's right.. Bladewire Media (News Company).
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Bladewire 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, 5.0 and 6.0 has GOT to hit his quotas to get paid



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Trump is losing the military. They were on his side, but over the last 6 months that attitude has been changing. I have some active military friends who were extremely pro Trump and Pro conservative. While still conservative, they have completely changed their minds on Trump, and said that same sentiment has started to become common among their fellow servicemen and women.
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I wonder how many lives could of been saved if 7000 military were sent to cali to help fight fires
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I wonder how many lives could of been saved if 7000 military were sent to cali to help fight fires
You mean, how many more would have died? They are not trained to fight wildfires. Like any of those places could handle an additional 7,000 people.
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These soldiers are deploying to help fight the wildfires ravaging the West Coast - Army Times

About 200 soldiers from the Army’s 2nd Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division are being mobilized this week to help fight historical wildfires currently ravaging America’s northwest, officials said Tuesday.



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They could have raked , .... like in FINLAND !!!!!

Finnish president denies ever discussing ‘raking’ with Trump


Baddog , go back to your bingo game and eat your porridge...
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I was in the 2nd ID for a year. Doesn't seem to make much tactical sense to bring them stateside for this mission when there are so many other units already here that could cover it or be reassigned.
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Baddog , go back to your bingo game and eat your porridge...
I get it, you are ESL; but WTF did I say about raking?
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Earn that money Bladewire 1.

Don't forget to bring BW 2,3,4, and 5 in here for more "group think".

Wonder what the motive could be for 7+ hours a day of toil... Oh yeah that's right.. Bladewire Media (News Company).

Hi Diomed, question for you:Instead of attacking Bladewire for posting the truth, why don't you instead offer a comment about the situation instead? Trump knew there were no terrorists in the caravan. Trump knew they posed no thread. Trump spent millions to send troops there anyway.

Love or hate Bladewire, doesn't matter. Instead, share why you still love Trump after this instead.
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You mean, how many more would have died? They are not trained to fight wildfires. Like any of those places could handle an additional 7,000 people.
I couldn't disagree with you more.

Right now the biggest problem we seem to have here locally is housing. We have thousands of people without homes. I am eighty miles away, we have only one hotel, and it's completely taken over by victims of the fire. Beale Air Force Base is between me and the fire - it's where Trump flew in on Saturday.... Why can't we fly in a company of soldiers with military trucks full of huge tents and blankets and food?

We can deploy federal troops to string up concertina wire for an invasion that is not coming, and we can put up tent cities for children we've taken away from parents, but we can't deploy our own troops to set up tents and cook for thousands of people who lost their houses and everything they own in a fire?
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Hi Diomed, question for you:Instead of attacking Bladewire for posting the truth, why don't you instead offer a comment about the situation instead? Trump knew there were no terrorists in the caravan. Trump knew they posed no thread. Trump spent millions to send troops there anyway.

Love or hate Bladewire, doesn't matter. Instead, share why you still love Trump after this instead.
LOL. We spent millions to put up some concertina wire....
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I get it, you are ESL; but WTF did I say about raking?
You didn't say anything about raking. You said we can't deploy troops to the fire zone. He is saying we should deploy troops to rake leaves.

I mean, 60% of forest land here in California is federal land so... He makes perfect sense.
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I couldn't disagree with you more.

Right now the biggest problem we seem to have here locally is housing. We have thousands of people without homes. I am eighty miles away, we have only one hotel, and it's completely taken over by victims of the fire. Beale Air Force Base is between me and the fire - it's where Trump flew in on Saturday.... Why can't we fly in a company of soldiers with military trucks full of huge tents and blankets and food?
That makes sense, there is no housing, but we will add another 7,000 people? Where would you suggest they put up these tent cities?

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You didn't say anything about raking. You said we can't deploy troops to the fire zone. He is saying we should deploy troops to rake leaves.

I mean, 60% of forest land here in California is federal land so... He makes perfect sense.
Rake leaves? Sometimes I don't know if you are just playing stupid.
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That makes sense, there is no housing, but we will add another 7,000 people? Where would you suggest they put up these tent cities?



Rake leaves? Sometimes I don't know if you are just playing stupid.

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Midterms are over so they no longer serve Chump's political purpose for being there
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Exactly, the fuckwad used the military for political reasons. No tweets about the caravan also since the election.

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Exactly

They announced today they are not pursuing a tax cut any longer either. You know the one they promised the week before midterms .

Oh and the IRS passed a new rule on how they calculate taxes last Thursday and for the average American taxes going up a $133 billion for 2019. I'm making a new thread on this.

So basically the tax cut we already got was A bullshit lie except for the top 1%
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Orange man bad thread #22 for the day.

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Sure...everyone is just hysterical as they see absolute, undeniable horseshit happening. We're all crazy.


If Donald Trump pissed on you and told you it's raining, you'd believe him. I'm sure you'd enjoy gargling his Kentucky Fried Chicken smelling piss.
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That makes sense, there is no housing, but we will add another 7,000 people? Where would you suggest they put up these tent cities?
Chico airport has a lot of space. Butte Count fairgrounds. It's going to rain Wednesday so I imagine they would have to plan for flooding, etc.

They would have to include housing for whatever troops they send. That is exactly what the military does - operates where there is no housing.

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Rake leaves? Sometimes I don't know if you are just playing stupid.
Our president - who refuses to accept global warming - wants Californians to "rake leaves".
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Seems to be conflicting stories about what's going on. A general says some of them are coming home, while the Pentagon says no one is coming home before Thanksgiving.
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Old 11-21-2018, 10:47 AM   #42
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Good, soldiers protecting their own borders instead of crossing others.
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Old 11-21-2018, 11:25 AM   #44
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Good, soldiers protecting their own borders instead of crossing others.
They are being sent home because they are not protecting anything.

Trump sent them there as a political game to get more votes for our midterms November 6th.

Now that Republicans lost most of the elections in the midterms Trump has no need for the troops at the border and they're being sent home.

I'd be happy if they were actually they're securing the border as well but that's not what's happening. The only thing they've done is lay down a bunch of barbed wire.
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Old 11-21-2018, 12:01 PM   #45
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Trump knew there were no terrorists in the caravan. Trump knew they posed no threat. Trump spent millions to send troops there anyway.

Love or hate Bladewire, doesn't matter. Instead, share why you still love Trump after this instead.
Except that Trump is right.

Migrant caravan at US border is harboring more than 500 criminals, Homeland Security claims

DHS 'can confirm': Gang members, criminals are in the caravan
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Old 11-22-2018, 12:18 PM   #46
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The caravan is actually insignificant. 99% of the border hoppers are not a part of that media circus.

You weirdos have no idea how massive that border is and how organized these hoppers are.
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