Videos showing shelter staffers pushing, shoving migrant children

[2MuchMark]

No words.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/30/us/ar...ons/index.html

[Paul Markham]

Are detainees in these places given the option of returning home or going into a immigrant shelter or are they put into the Interment shelters without choice?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Are detainees in these places given the option of returning home or going into a immigrant shelter or are they put into the Interment shelters without choice?

Still waiting for an answer.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Are detainees in these places given the option of returning home or going into a immigrant shelter or are they put into the Interment shelters without choice?

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Still waiting for an answer.

Oh look at Paul trying to justify child abuse in defense of Trump.

You've sunken to a new low and hit absolute bottom.

[Matt 26z]

They are invading hordes and should be taken care of by the US military at the border.

The left's solution to these "abuses" is to turn them loose into society as if there is no border or at least no consequences for illegally crossing the border.

These native american type Mexicans are parasites taking over our communities. They suck down local property tax funds and state tax revenues. They are worthless. They contribute nothing to society. They are fat. Ugly. They are swine. Ever heard of a pro athlete from Mexico? 150 million people there and you can't name one because they are genetic garbage.

[MFCT]

Oddly reminiscent of the treatment someone gets in high school, when they take it upon themselves to try to hang with the cliquey, rich, cool-kid crowd. The highest status they can ever hope for is that of a somewhat-tolerated "pet nerd", like Screech from Saved By the Bell.

But in the real world, people who are too dumb to take a hint that they're not wanted, are typically given quite harsh and unfair treatment until they eventually understand.

Is that treatment right, on a moral basis? Of course not. But is that the way it is? Yes.

If you don't believe me, go try to impose yourself on a clique that you're not a part of and not wanted in. You'll quickly get educated one way or another.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Are detainees in these places given the option of returning home or going into a immigrant shelter or are they put into the Interment shelters without choice?

Shut the fuck up. Is that all you can say after watching that video? Seriosuly...turn off your life supoort.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

They are invading hordes and should be taken care of by the US military at the border.

The left's solution to these "abuses" is to turn them loose into society as if there is no border or at least no consequences for illegally crossing the border.

These native american type Mexicans are parasites taking over our communities. They suck down local property tax funds and state tax revenues. They are worthless. They contribute nothing to society. They are fat. Ugly. They are swine. Ever heard of a pro athlete from Mexico? 150 million people there and you can't name one because they are genetic garbage.

you past your racist test 101 . Congrats !

Now, let's apply that to jews ... oups, already done ... a while ago.

[seeandsee]

usa under control

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Are detainees in these places given the option of returning home or going into a immigrant shelter or are they put into the Interment shelters without choice?

The parents are arrested and the children separated and detained. It goes utterly downhill from there. In some cases the children are separated from their parents and then.... lost. The children get "lost in the system" and when the parent's status is resolved, be it they get a visa or are sent home, they are not united with their children.

We should not be in this business of detaining people at all.

We need to treat this as it is - a serious crime. Anyone found in the United States illegally should receive a fine and be deported as quickly as possible such as twenty-four to forty-eight hours. The second time they are caught in the US it should be mandatory jail time, one year, with stiffly increasing prison sentences from there on. Children in all cases should be quickly deported and handed over to the government of their respective countries.

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by Rochard

We need to treat this as it is - a serious crime. Anyone found in the United States illegally should receive a fine and be deported as quickly as possible such as twenty-four to forty-eight hours. The second time they are caught in the US it should be mandatory jail time, one year, with stiffly increasing prison sentences from there on. Children in all cases should be quickly deported and handed over to the government of their respective countries.

You got my dick hard.

I know you are a closet republican.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The parents are arrested and the children separated and detained. It goes utterly downhill from there. In some cases the children are separated from their parents and then.... lost. The children get "lost in the system" and when the parent's status is resolved, be it they get a visa or are sent home, they are not united with their children.

We should not be in this business of detaining people at all.

We need to treat this as it is - a serious crime. Anyone found in the United States illegally should receive a fine and be deported as quickly as possible such as twenty-four to forty-eight hours. The second time they are caught in the US it should be mandatory jail time, one year, with stiffly increasing prison sentences from there on. Children in all cases should be quickly deported and handed over to the government of their respective countries.

You misunderstood, Paul Markham was justifying the abuse saying they have a choice to endure it or go back to their own country.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Are detainees in these places given the option of returning home or going into a immigrant shelter or are they put into the Interment shelters without choice?

[kane]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Are detainees in these places given the option of returning home or going into a immigrant shelter or are they put into the Interment shelters without choice?

No, they don't. They are arrested, in many cases children are separated from their families they being making their way through the legal process. There are a number of cases where parents have been deported and sent back to their country and their kids are still in the interment camp.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by kane

No, they don't. They are arrested, in many cases children are separated from their families they being making their way through the legal process. There are a number of cases where parents have been deported and sent back to their country and their kids are still in the interment camp.

Separating children from the parents seems harsh, but harsher is putting them into camps with 100s of adults, some of whom are not nice people.

And obviously mistakes are made. Do you set them free, keep them in small individual costly detention centres or what?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Shut the fuck up. Is that all you can say after watching that video? Seriosuly...turn off your life supoort.

I'm just trying to find out who is ultimately to blame.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The parents are arrested and the children separated and detained. It goes utterly downhill from there. In some cases the children are separated from their parents and then.... lost. The children get "lost in the system" and when the parent's status is resolved, be it they get a visa or are sent home, they are not united with their children.

We should not be in this business of detaining people at all.

We need to treat this as it is - a serious crime. Anyone found in the United States illegally should receive a fine and be deported as quickly as possible such as twenty-four to forty-eight hours. The second time they are caught in the US it should be mandatory jail time, one year, with stiffly increasing prison sentences from there on. Children in all cases should be quickly deported and handed over to the government of their respective countries.

Seems Trump agrees with you. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/u...mmigrants.html

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/w...on/1272334002/

https://www.google.com/search?ei=vIE...30.FKYYUbVw2dw

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I'm just trying to find out who is ultimately to blame.

Trump is to blame Paul.

Trump is the first POTUS to ever imprison immigrant babies and children.

What the fuck is wrong with you Paul?

[Robbie]

These wannabe dictators and their immigration policies are just abhorent.

Horrible to see what Trudeau is doing in Canada with HIS border officers. Their mistreatment of Nigerian "undocumented migrants" trying to cross the border into Canada is horrendous.
And now there are continuous reports of travelers to Canada who are black being called names and suffering racist remarks from the Canadian border officers.

You guys need to get that racist Trudeau out of office. Apparently he is just like most politicians and pretends to be "nice" in public while he instructs his agency's to act in racist and inhumane ways.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Robbie

deflecting poorly

Oh look Robbie wants to shift the topic to Canada instead of focusing on Trump imprisoning & abusing babies and children.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Separating children from the parents seems harsh, but harsher is putting them into camps with 100s of adults, some of whom are not nice people.

And obviously mistakes are made. Do you set them free, keep them in small individual costly detention centres or what?

My opinion is that if we catch them, we detain them and try to find out who they are. If we can identify them we determine if they are criminals or are likely criminals. If we don't think they are criminals we deport them as soon as possible. If we think they are, we continue to hold them and investigate. As for where we keep them, simple. We can have places where they put adults with no kids. If it is a family with kids we could make detention centers that are similar to motels so each family has a small room to be in while they are being held.

Using kids as pawns in this game is fucking disgusting and it makes me ill to think our government is doing that.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by kane

Using kids as pawns in this game is fucking disgusting and it makes me ill to think our government is doing that.

Unfortunately the illegals are using them as "pawns" to try and get in as well.

I think we should simply tell everybody trying to come in illegally to turn the hell around. Our mistake is "detaining" them in the first place. The minute they step foot on U.S. territory we should push them right back over to Mexican territory.
Wasting a lot of taxpayer money by "detaining" them in any way at all.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Unfortunately the illegals are using them as "pawns" to try and get in as well.

I think we should simply tell everybody trying to come in illegally to turn the hell around. Our mistake is "detaining" them in the first place. The minute they step foot on U.S. territory we should push them right back over to Mexican territory.
Wasting a lot of taxpayer money by "detaining" them in any way at all.

The kids imprisoned and filmed being abused are here on asylum claims you idiot.

They're here LEGALLY

You idiots always try to change the subject.

First you shift the topic to Canada

Then you shift it from abused asylum seekers to illegal child smugglers.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Unfortunately the illegals are using them as "pawns" to try and get in as well.

I think we should simply tell everybody trying to come in illegally to turn the hell around. Our mistake is "detaining" them in the first place. The minute they step foot on U.S. territory we should push them right back over to Mexican territory.
Wasting a lot of taxpayer money by "detaining" them in any way at all.

I have no problem with picking them up and sending them back immediately. That would be a very cost effective way of dealing with it.

I don't think these people are using their kids as pawns, they are trying to get a better life for them and those kids. They can't just leave them behind.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by kane

I have no problem with picking them up and sending them back immediately. That would be a very cost effective way of dealing with it.

I don't think these people are using their kids as pawns, they are trying to get a better life for them and those kids. They can't just leave them behind.

The border patrol agents say that the majority of the kids are being used to gain entry. Some are even being brought in by mules. Basically we have no idea if these kids are even with their real parents or not.

Anyway, best thing is to stop incentivizing them to come here in the first place.

Having a lot of crime at home is not grounds for "asylum". Hell, they aren't gonna find it much better in big cities here in the U.S. when they have no money, can't speak the language and end up in the worst part of town.

"Asylum" was something that I used to hear about pertaining to Soviet dissidents. It's supposed to be something you seek because the govt. of the country you live in is trying to kill you.

Just send them all back. End of problem.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Robbie

The border patrol agents say that the majority of the kids are being used to gain entry. Some are even being brought in by mules. Basically we have no idea if these kids are even with their real parents or not.

Anyway, best thing is to stop incentivizing them to come here in the first place.

Having a lot of crime at home is not grounds for "asylum". Hell, they aren't gonna find it much better in big cities here in the U.S. when they have no money, can't speak the language and end up in the worst part of town.

"Asylum" was something that I used to hear about pertaining to Soviet dissidents. It's supposed to be something you seek because the govt. of the country you live in is trying to kill you.

Just send them all back. End of problem.

First you lie about "what most border patrol agents" say.

Now you want to change international law to "send them all back"

Trump hires illegals and gives them fake documents. You're right, Trump should not incentivize them to come here but you give Trump, part of the problem, a pass. You're a hypocrite.

Next you'll say Trumps crashing economy is a good thing

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Trump is to blame Paul.

Trump is the first POTUS to ever imprison immigrant babies and children.

What the fuck is wrong with you Paul?

The parents are to blame as well.

Will you add to the cost to the taxpayer using Kane's idea. An individual motel like room for each family?

Can you see why the Wall is needed to deter some from crossing the border?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by kane

My opinion is that if we catch them, we detain them and try to find out who they are. If we can identify them we determine if they are criminals or are likely criminals. If we don't think they are criminals we deport them as soon as possible. If we think they are, we continue to hold them and investigate. As for where we keep them, simple. We can have places where they put adults with no kids. If it is a family with kids we could make detention centers that are similar to motels so each family has a small room to be in while they are being held.

Using kids as pawns in this game is fucking disgusting and it makes me ill to think our government is doing that.

Good idea apart from the costs.

[_Richard_]

i heard these guys shut themselves down

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Separating children from the parents seems harsh, but harsher is putting them into camps with 100s of adults, some of whom are not nice people.

And obviously mistakes are made. Do you set them free, keep them in small individual costly detention centres or what?

apparently all of the above.. new law that limited 20 days now means they just dump these guys on the street cause border peeps don't have resources to handle the placement now