Breaking : Trump was right. There was no Collusion. You win.

[2MuchMark]

Psyche! Haha, made you click.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/08/polit...sis/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/09/polit...ler/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/08/polit...ine/index.html

#ButThePedoPizzaBengazziFoundation!

[onwebcam]

Correction: January 8, 2019
A previous version of this article misidentified the people to whom Paul Manafort wanted a Russian associate to send polling data. Mr. Manafort wanted the data sent to two Ukrainian oligarchs, Serhiy Lyovochkin and Rinat Akhmetov, not Oleg V. Deripaska, a Russian oligarch close to the Kremlin.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/u...-kilimnik.html

[Rochard]

It doesn't hint at collusion... It is collusion. It's direct collusion. He handed data from the campaign to the Russians. Period.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Rochard

It doesn't hint at collusion... It is collusion. It's direct collusion. He handed data from the campaign to the Russians. Period.

PIRIOD

[crockett]

Trump is basically a un-indicted co-conspirator in multiple federal crimes. The only-thing keeping him out of jail right now is the oval office. It's only a matter of time.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

It doesn't hint at collusion... It is collusion. It's direct collusion. He handed data from the campaign to the Russians. Period.

Ukraine.. I've been saying it for going on 2 years now.. Ukraine.... I told you yesterday you were getting played with this.. And now that they've spent a day blabbing "Russia, Russia, Russia" they are having to switch to "Oops, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine."

Look back yesterday.. I told you this was about Ukraine..... Every other redaction was about Ukraine.... They saw the "Russia" and ran with it...

This is where the BIG problem lies.. You idiots keep pushing this Russia nonsense.. When it was Ukraine who was meddling... That's why there are major tensions between those two countries right now... Because this FACT is being kept buried with Russia, Russia, Russia...

[NoWhErE]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Ukraine.. I've been saying it for going on 2 years now.. Ukraine.... I told you yesterday you were getting played with this.. And now that they've spent a day blabbing "Russia, Russia, Russia" they are having to switch to "Oops, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine."

Look back yesterday.. I told you this was about Ukraine..... Every other redaction was about Ukraine.... They saw the "Russia" and ran with it...

This is where the BIG problem lies.. You idiots keep pushing this Russia nonsense.. When it was Ukraine who was meddling... That's why there are major tensions between those two countries right now... Because this FACT is being kept buried with Russia, Russia, Russia...

Buddy, you need help. My comment isn't political. You just seriously need help. You live in your own little world and that can't be healthy.

I understand you probably feel like everybody is wrong and you're one of the few that see's the truth. But I'm sorry, that isn't the case. Your disconnect with reality keeps growing everyday and its time it gets addressed.

[Alex CZ]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Correction: January 8, 2019
A previous version of this article misidentified the people to whom Paul Manafort wanted a Russian associate to send polling data. Mr. Manafort wanted the data sent to two Ukrainian oligarchs, Serhiy Lyovochkin and Rinat Akhmetov, not Oleg V. Deripaska, a Russian oligarch close to the Kremlin.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/u...-kilimnik.html

Both pro-Putin with very close ties. Same shit different color.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

Buddy, you need help. My comment isn't political. You just seriously need help. You live in your own little world and that can't be healthy.

I understand you probably feel like everybody is wrong and you're one of the few that see's the truth. But I'm sorry, that isn't the case. Your disconnect with reality keeps growing everyday and its time it gets addressed.

but he wont seek help .... maybe he will make national news soon ....

[Acepimp]

Manafort was doing lobbying work for the Podestas in the UKRAINE 10 years ago. This will certainly be the thing that gets Trump impeached! (For some mysterious reason.)

Ok then

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

Buddy, you need help. My comment isn't political. You just seriously need help. You live in your own little world and that can't be healthy.

I understand you probably feel like everybody is wrong and you're one of the few that see's the truth. But I'm sorry, that isn't the case. Your disconnect with reality keeps growing everyday and its time it gets addressed.

All of the peddlers have had to backtrack this story 24 hours later.. Because it was FAKE NEWS... I was right.. From the start.. Because I read the intentionally unredacted redactions MYSELF when they first came out.. And I need help? Go Fuck Yourself.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Alex CZ

Both pro-Putin with very close ties. Same shit different color.

The ties aren't what you think

FLASHBACK: Hillary Allies Coordinated With Ukrainian Government During The Election
Was this any different from Donald Trump Jr.'s situation?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/18477...-aaron-bandler

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Manafort was doing lobbying work for the Podestas in the UKRAINE 10 years ago. This will certainly be the thing that gets Trump impeached! (For some mysterious reason.)

Ok then

Podesta's, Hillary, Obama and Soros......

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Manafort was doing lobbying work for the Podestas in the UKRAINE 10 years ago. This will certainly be the thing that gets Trump impeached! (For some mysterious reason.)

Ok then

You can't pay attention, or you don't want to pay attention. Too bad - this stuff is important.

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

And I need help?

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by RedFred

I was actually going to post about this shit yesterday afternoon. Instead, I thought.. You know what? I'm going to let this play out.. I waited.. And I waited.. Low and behold one of you dumb fucks took the bait.. Crockett...


And here's my post

Originally Posted by onwebcam

It wasn't a clerical error... The government does redactions not independent lawyers... Buzzfeed was tipped off to the "error" I wonder why they didn't mention the other unredacted redactions referring to Ukraine in that article?

https://gfy.com/22393520-post6.html


NAILED IT.. The whole fucking filing was about UKRAINE. The liberal outlets saw one tiny comment in regard to Russia and they RAN with it..



You fucks can't help but to keep playing yourselves.

CORRECTION

New York Times Makes Major Correction to Report on Manafort and Russian Oligarch
https://www.mediaite.com/print/new-y...sian-oligarch/

[onwebcam]

"In the summer of 2014, BURYAKOV met multiple times with a confidential source working for the FBI (“CS-1”) and an FBI undercover employee (“UCE-2”). Both CS-1 and UCE-2 purported to be working on a casino development project in Russia."

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr...onspiracy-work


FBI UCE-2 (Undercover Employee)

Trump was an FBI Undercover EMPLOYEE targeting RUSSIANS on the same case as Carter Page (Male-1)

I've been telling you fucks this FOREVER

The dossier was compiled BY RUSSIANS in an effort to OUT Trump as Undercover FBI. They KNEW he was FBI... That's why they didn't do business with him back then... That's why Putin wouldn't let him build a hotel... Instead Carter Page set them up... Papadopolous is Intel as well...... Hillary/Obama and Co were OUTING Undercover intelligence....... "Unmasking"

[Rochard]

More reading today... It seems Manafort told his accountant to expect "$2.4 billion more from the Ukraine" in 2016. He had spent the past year working for the Trump campaign; Why would Manafort be expecting an additional $2.4 million dollars from a political campaign in Ukraine closely aligned to Moscow, and run by someone with ties to the FSB?

He is claiming it was money that was "past due". Bullshit. That was for work he did during Trump's campaign during the election. No one says "oh yeah, I forgot to mention I am getting an extra $2.4 million for past due work".

You already know where this is going. There is not going to be any emails between him and Ukrainians saying "Oh, we owe you extra money from past work". If there was no communication between him and his former employer about money due from past work.... I would say "connect the dots" but we are way past that point now aren't we?

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

More reading today... It seems Manafort told his accountant to expect "$2.4 billion more from the Ukraine" in 2016. He had spent the past year working for the Trump campaign; Why would Manafort be expecting an additional $2.4 million dollars from a political campaign in Ukraine closely aligned to Moscow, and run by someone with ties to the FSB?

He is claiming it was money that was "past due". Bullshit. That was for work he did during Trump's campaign during the election. No one says "oh yeah, I forgot to mention I am getting an extra $2.4 million for past due work".

You already know where this is going. There is not going to be any emails between him and Ukrainians saying "Oh, we owe you extra money from past work". If there was no communication between him and his former employer about money due from past work.... I would say "connect the dots" but we are way past that point now aren't we?

Glad you're at least trying.

Manafort was a plant.. I've said it all along.... Ukraine.. Ukraine.. In your findings what did you find? You found Ukraine... Why does it always lead back to Ukraine and not Russia Rochard?

Because someone else was actually working for/with Russia (and Ukraine I might add)


EXCLUSIVE: DEM SUPER-LOBBYIST PODESTA GOT $170K TO END US SANCTIONS ON RUSSIAN BANK
https://dailycaller.com/2017/03/06/e...-russian-bank/


No One Mentions That The Russian Trail Leads To Democratic Lobbyists
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulrod.../#ffdef093991a

As far as your payment is concerned.. Yes it is 100% likely that Manafort was lobbying for Ukraine on Trumps watch.. Or at least planned to.. It's said in those unredacted redactions that they wanted to discuss Ukraine Peace Plan.... Peace with who? Russia....

Russia benefits in that peace plan.. But someone else does as well.. BIGLY.. George Soros..

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

You can't pay attention, or you don't want to pay attention. Too bad - this stuff is important.

[aimike]

Collusion? What kind of Collusion? Collusion is not always criminal..

If Trump would have given Russia info on how to hack voting machines in his favor.. Then that's criminal.

He WILL NEVER be indicted for anything that has to do with Russia.. because there's no crime there.

If Clinton was never indicted for obvious crimes then Trump will never be over a bunch of accusations without a single shred of proof. If there was proof they would have found it a long time ago.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Ukraine.. I've been saying it for going on 2 years now.. Ukraine.... I told you yesterday you were getting played with this.. And now that they've spent a day blabbing "Russia, Russia, Russia" they are having to switch to "Oops, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine."

Look back yesterday.. I told you this was about Ukraine..... Every other redaction was about Ukraine.... They saw the "Russia" and ran with it...

This is where the BIG problem lies.. You idiots keep pushing this Russia nonsense.. When it was Ukraine who was meddling... That's why there are major tensions between those two countries right now... Because this FACT is being kept buried with Russia, Russia, Russia...

odd how someone with no connections to russia had a connection to manafort

thanks for that update btw

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Correction: January 8, 2019
A previous version of this article misidentified the people to whom Paul Manafort wanted a Russian associate to send polling data. Mr. Manafort wanted the data sent to two Ukrainian oligarchs, Serhiy Lyovochkin and Rinat Akhmetov, not Oleg V. Deripaska, a Russian oligarch close to the Kremlin.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/08/u...-kilimnik.html

Maybe read up on "Party of Regions" the Lyovochkin & Akhmetov connection is FAR more shit than just Deripaska for Manafort, the Ukraine and America.

And it all still leads straight back to Putty.

[NatalieK]

Trump the dumbass thinks stealth planes are literally invisible to the naked eye...

Trump argues that we need a border wall to stop migrants just driving right across in their "unbelievable vehicles... stronger, bigger, and faster vehicles than our police have, than ICE has."

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Maybe read up on "Party of Regions" the Lyovochkin & Akhmetov connection is FAR more shit than just Deripaska for Manafort, the Ukraine and America.

And it all still leads straight back to Putty.

Already read.. All of it leads right back to Podesta's/Hillary/Obama/Soros

Soros was/is heavily invested in Ukraine... He was also heavily invested in Obama and then Hillary.. He needed Hillary to win to get the Ukraine deal done.. They tried to burn Trump the same way they did McCain back in '08 with Manafort. When that didn't work they burnt Manafort to "get Trump...."

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Already read.. All of it leads right back to Podesta's/Hillary/Obama/Soros

Soros was/is heavily invested in Ukraine... He was also heavily invested in Obama and then Hillary.. He needed Hillary to win to get the Ukraine deal done.. They tried to burn Trump the same way they did McCain back in '08 with Manafort. When that didn't work they burnt Manafort to "get Trump...."

you need to go back and read some more hunny… And as far as billionaire politic players none even compare to Murdoch.

[NoWhErE]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

And I need help?

Yes you do. No doubt.

[Bladewire]

↑↑↑ 100% correct

[Robbie]

So the whole "new" Manafort stuff is just fake news again?

It's like the media (and Mark and other Trump-haters) WANT to BELIEVE it so bad that they don't bother checking their facts.

I saw someone quoted Rochard up there saying this happened in 2016 and "He had spent the past year working for the Trump campaign"

That's just plain out WRONG (as usual...which is why I keep Rochard on ignore).
This is from ABC News (who do NOT like Trump at all):
"Manafort, 68, joined the Trump campaign on March 29, 2016, when he was named campaign convention manager for the Republican Party's mid-July gathering in Cleveland."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/time...ry?id=50808957

There is so much un-truth posted by low-information people. All it takes is a quick Google search to discover the facts.

So Manafort actually joined the Trump campaign in March 2016. He didn't become the CAMPAIGN MANAGER until MAY of 2016...and was gone by August 2016 when Kellyanne Conway took over.

He was the campaign manager from May to August of 2016. 3 months of total time.
He wasn't even IN the Trump campaign when the actual national election took place.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Robbie

So the whole "new" Manafort stuff is just fake news again?

It's like the media (and Mark and other Trump-haters) WANT to BELIEVE it so bad that they don't bother checking their facts.

I saw someone quoted Rochard up there saying this happened in 2016 and "He had spent the past year working for the Trump campaign"

That's just plain out WRONG (as usual...which is why I keep Rochard on ignore).
This is from ABC News (who do NOT like Trump at all):
"Manafort, 68, joined the Trump campaign on March 29, 2016, when he was named campaign convention manager for the Republican Party's mid-July gathering in Cleveland."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/time...ry?id=50808957

There is so much un-truth posted by low-information people. All it takes is a quick Google search to discover the facts.

So Manafort actually joined the Trump campaign in March 2016. He didn't become the CAMPAIGN MANAGER until MAY of 2016...and was gone by August 2016 when Kellyanne Conway took over.

He was the campaign manager from May to August of 2016. 3 months of total time.
He wasn't even IN the Trump campaign when the actual national election took place.

You act like you don't know he didn't work with the campaign in an unofficial capacity before officially being added publicly. Maybe you didn't know that.

You act like you don't know Manafort & Trump have known each other since the 80's. It's as if you think Manafort was a complete stranger to Trump before the election. Maybe you didn't know that.

You are Robbie. You will excuse and deny every fact to "support" Trump, this you have proven to be true.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Robbie

That's just plain out WRONG (as usual...which is why I keep Rochard on ignore).

You should take him off your ignore list. I know you disagree with me politically and I'm not on your ignore list.

Rochard is a good guy. If he posts something poltical that you disagree with, challenge him on it. We should all be challenging each other. Talking is always good.

I reserve my ban button for people who spread misinformation that can lead to death or someone getting hurt.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

You should take him off your ignore list. I know you disagree with me politically and I'm not on your ignore list.

Rochard is a good guy. If he posts something poltical that you disagree with, challenge him on it. We should all be challenging each other. Talking is always good.

I reserve my ban button for people who spread misinformation that can lead to death or someone getting hurt.

He blocks people that challenge him too much and he feels he loses too many arguments with. It's an ego thing for him.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

You should take him off your ignore list. I know you disagree with me politically and I'm not on your ignore list.

Rochard is a good guy. If he posts something poltical that you disagree with, challenge him on it. We should all be challenging each other. Talking is always good.

I reserve my ban button for people who spread misinformation that can lead to death or someone getting hurt.

Back to my point: People posting things (on both "sides") that are just plain out WRONG. And when it's pointed out...they never seem to say: "You know what, you are right! I must have read something that was wrong. I'd like to publicly retract what I said earlier."

Nope, instead they will just go to another thread (there are so many...thanks Mark) and say the EXACT SAME THING all over again.

It's deliberately trying to convince people of untruth by simply repeating it over and over.

[Bladewire]

And more news today proving there was collusion you just can't make this stuff up

Trump’s Efforts to Hide Details of Putin Talks Set Up Fight With Congress