Germany and the EU are heading into recession - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Paul Markham · 01-15-2019, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DraX

Trump has nothing to do with a world-wide recession, it has been underway with or without him. False accusations and lies.

What's really unfortunate Thommy is that thanks to your politics Europe has never been in a more difficult situation than today since the end of WW2.

Good job EU

EU is on a mission to divide and conquer the entire continent of Europe, turning its citizens into low wage slaves, eradicate European culture, wipe out any sense of nationalism. There's no unity going on and the community you seek doesn't exist. Your whole argument is based on nonsense and a foundation outside reality.

Since WW2 the Far Right has never been so strong, in many countries across Europe there are Far Right politicians sitting in government. https://www.google.com/search?biw=13...j0.5FwY8UVOreE

Even the EU isn't immune to the threat. https://www.google.com/search?biw=13...39.NyB525ofUI8

In the US people voted in the millions for Trump, even though every insult thrown at him. In France they've had 9 weeks of protest, Hungary, Italy, Germany, etc all have Far Right large parties or Governments. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36130006

So why are people sick to death with the established parties.

Uncontrolled immigration has to be top of the list. But like an iceberg the real problem lies below the surface. The problem with Uncontrolled immigration is clear. It causes a stagnation in wages, rise in house prices, strains on culture, a rise in crime, poor schooling, segregated schools, no go areas, etc. Added to that s the cost to the Governments. People not working, on low pay, unemployed, children, cost a lot of money to look after. They all need somewhere to live, food to eat, clothing, healthcare, some need schooling, etc. Yet their Earnings are so low the rest have to pay for them. Plus their presence has dragged down wages and taxes.

Take one cost, housing. Do you know what it costs to build a house in the UK for four people? Minimum of $200,000. That's $50,000 per person So how much tax does a person have to contribute to make that possible? Not just Income tax and N.I., there are other means of raising taxes. The four of them would have to be working at a good wage for a few years to create the money to house them. And I'm talking minimums, if the house is in an area with jobs it's a lot more.

thommy · 01-15-2019, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Once again you prove how clueless you are or how stupid. Britain would love an open border between Ireland and Northern Island. In fact they want an open border between Britain and Mainland Europe. It's the EU who won'r allow it because it's a death knell for the EU.

So please stop posting in threads you are clueless about.

but that would mean that there will be a border between england and northern ireland you dumb.

the EU have outfront borders and they are all around EU countries.

if northern ireland should be such a country it will have a border to england.
doesn´t that reach your small brain?

what you are telling me right now is the same as trump would change his wall-idea to install it on the border between guatemala and mexico.

Paul Markham · 01-15-2019, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

it´s not northern ireland alone. if the backstop the EU wants does not get through it will be scotland and possibly wales too who will fight for independence.

in none of the parts of the UK the brexit had a majority and have even less supporters now.

the whole brexit is an english brexit and does not even include london and other big cities.

the UK will lose the U and will be alone in (U)K and E(U). and than people like paul can lern a lesson what this "U" really means.

Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland cling on to England for the money it gives them. My you're stupid.

Paul Markham · 01-15-2019, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Manfap

I dont think the majority of Brits give a shit, they'd be happy with an Irish sea border, the problem is Northern Ireland Unionists, who are the most stubborn fuckers around.

They would be over the moon to lose Northern Ireland and the backward people there.

Paul Markham · 01-15-2019, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Manfap

The weird thing is, if you speak to Scottish people, a lot of the leave UK are also Brexit. The leave UK was because they wanted to manage their own affairs, and just handing that to Brussels is not in their plans.

Wales, who knows, I have Welsh family and they have never mentioned leaving the UK as an option, that union has been in place 800 odd years.

Also how would that work? There is no way Scotland or Wales could just walk into the EU, they'd have to apply, and Spain/France would block it.

Otherwise Corsica and Cataluña would be all over that.

Anyway why does it matter, those nasty Brits are leaving(possibly

), and congrats you're gonna get Albania and Ukraine, more cheap labour for you.

Northern Ireland, Scotland or Wales think they will get lots of money from the EU.

thommy · 01-15-2019, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Northern Ireland, Scotland or Wales think they will get lots of money from the EU.

well where else shall they get it from after britain have left?

brits will have a problem to get their own bills paid and the debt will go through the sky.

but we do not have to discuss that because you will anyway know it better and you deny the truth even when it crawls out of your ass.

Paul Markham · 01-15-2019, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy

well where else shall they get it from after britain have left?

brits will have a problem to get their own bills paid and the debt will go through the sky.

but we do not have to discuss that because you will anyway know it better and you deny the truth even when it crawls out of your ass.

England will be far better off without those small areas hanging onto the UKs money. Let them leech off the EU instead.

The UK will suffer initially from a drop in trade, that will be mirrored by the same drop in trade by the EU. That's based on £ so don't come back with %. The EU will still lose as many jobs as the UK.

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Although Vesterbirk expects the UK’s negotiations to be dauntingly tough, he’s not as pessimistic about the country’s long-term fate as many Remainers. “The UK maybe will not be better off, but not worse,” he says. “At the end of the day, it’s in the interests of both parties to have very close cooperation, especially in trade.”

But the real bonus is we will be free of Brussels and freedom comes with a price. We joined the Common Market, were never given a chance to vote on joining the EU.

You can keep that suffocating noose around your neck. We chose freedom.

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https://www.slow-journalism.com/sj-site/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Brussels02.jpg

DraX · 01-15-2019, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

drax logic: trump is not to blame because it is a global recession but the EU is to blame because it is a global recession

"Imbecile"

Tasty1 · 01-15-2019, 11:21 AM

Maybe there is a recession in Holland cause the price of energy went up 50%. House prices went up 50% also last 6 years. Tax on food went up 3%. They want people with houses to use warm water pumps (cost 15.000 euro a house). And collect 1000 billion of euro's the next years on environmental taxes.…. The only reason the government want cheap overseas goods, is so there is more tax to be collected. The people don't profit, salaries didn't go up.

While Germany keeps producing cars for the expanding Chinese and Latin American countries. And China keeps opening more airports.

It is a matter of time before Holland says goodbye to the Climate Agreement and stops to be 'the best boy of the class".

The environmental taxes have the same results as Trump Tarifs.

Of course the president promised more money for everyone. Too bad the last years people only got less to spent.

They even have the stupid idea in Holland that new houses don't have a natural gas connection in the house... everything must be electric. That will cost a few billions for people still having gas. And in the mean time Germany is building Nordstream II to get more gas from Russia. Everyone starts using gas, and Holland is forbidding it. The world has become crazy. Wasting billions.

Bladewire · 01-15-2019, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

England will be far better off without those small areas hanging onto the UKs money. Let them leech off the EU instead.

The UK will suffer initially from a drop in trade, that will be mirrored by the same drop in trade by the EU. That's based on £ so don't come back with %. The EU will still lose as many jobs as the UK.

But the real bonus is we will be free of Brussels and freedom comes with a price. We joined the Common Market, were never given a chance to vote on joining the EU.

You can keep that suffocating noose around your neck. We chose freedom.

You have lived in Czechoslovakia for decades and you still identify as British?

thommy · 01-15-2019, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

You have lived in Czechoslovakia for decades and you still identify as British?

actually he forgot HOW MANY of those 12.295 regulations are an idea of UK.

looking forward to see apul´s face when he realize that his dream end up in a disaster.

DraX · 01-15-2019, 10:24 PM

Slowdown producing further fear.

https://www.ig.com/au/news-and-trade...n-fears-190114

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“France would be a worry.”

Mr Bootle warned of political unrest should the popularity of Mr Macron fall any further, with this proving a “worry” for the eurozone.

He said: “If his popularity falls any further then businesses and financial markets may come to worry that the next presidential election in 2022 could produce a win for Marine Le Pen.

“Above all, she is a French nationalist and would want to reassert French sovereignty in relation to the EU. That would really put the cat among the pigeons.”

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/ci...e-budget-money

Bladewire · 01-15-2019, 11:02 PM

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Paul Markham · 01-16-2019, 02:26 AM

All to play for. Westminster will deny the people. They through out May's stupid deal. Just another step towards staying inside this monolith.

thommy · 01-16-2019, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

All to play for. Westminster will deny the people. They through out May's stupid deal. Just another step towards staying inside this monolith.

tell me WHAT was stupid on this deal ?

what's going on right now doesn't work any more mendaciously.

Look what's going to happen with this vote of no confidence.

all the torys that voted against her deal will vote FOR HER (one month ago they did the opposite)

brits do not have a concept because they don´t reall know what they want. and no matter
what they will agree at the end the half of the people will be against it.

brits want democracy ? their OWN will ? without knowing WHAT THIS WILL really is ? EAT IT !!!!

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Tasty1 Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South-America Posts: 9,258	Maybe there is a recession in Holland cause the price of energy went up 50%. House prices went up 50% also last 6 years. Tax on food went up 3%. They want people with houses to use warm water pumps (cost 15.000 euro a house). And collect 1000 billion of euro's the next years on environmental taxes.…. The only reason the government want cheap overseas goods, is so there is more tax to be collected. The people don't profit, salaries didn't go up. While Germany keeps producing cars for the expanding Chinese and Latin American countries. And China keeps opening more airports. It is a matter of time before Holland says goodbye to the Climate Agreement and stops to be 'the best boy of the class". The environmental taxes have the same results as Trump Tarifs. Of course the president promised more money for everyone. Too bad the last years people only got less to spent. They even have the stupid idea in Holland that new houses don't have a natural gas connection in the house... everything must be electric. That will cost a few billions for people still having gas. And in the mean time Germany is building Nordstream II to get more gas from Russia. Everyone starts using gas, and Holland is forbidding it. The world has become crazy. Wasting billions.

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