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Old 04-20-2019, 03:44 PM   #1
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Armed volunteer militia group detain illegal immigrants at the U.S. border



The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) wants members of a volunteer militia group arrested for detaining illegal immigrants at gunpoint and impersonating U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

Members of the United Constitutional Patriots, a conservative group in New Mexico, unofficially patrol the U.S.-Mexico border in their home state and detain immigrants crossing the border.

This week, the group detained nearly 300 people, including families with young children, near Sunland Park, as recorded in a video posted to Facebook by member Jim Benvie. “Oh, and look what we got here, guys,” Benvie, 43, said during the live video while stopping a family. “Border control,” he told the group, despite the fact he is not employed by U.S. government.

In the video, Benvie is joined by his camouflage-clad partner who calls border security agents to retrieve the immigrants. “...You never know what’s coming through that wall,” said Benvie. “You gotta have the kids. That’s the passport.”

In more videos, Benvie calls for people to stand behind President Trump, describing immigration as “a very organized invasion.” According to BuzzFeed, a Border Patrol agent temporarily left five women and their children in the care of the United Constitutional Patriots.

Videos of hot and thirsty families cowering in the sand caused the ACLU of New Mexico to demand state officials intervene. On Thursday, the organization sent a letter to Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham and Attorney General Hector Balderas.

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Another day and more Trump supporters in trouble. When will trump supporters learn they are not above the law?
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The border could be successfully closed off if citizen patrols were encouraged.
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It sucks when the Democratic party invites people to our country and are denied by people that belong here? Is that what you are trying to say?
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I don't see a problem with a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, performing this task.

They see someone performing an illegal activity and detain them until law enforcement arrives. Which is the same as a citizen's arrest in most states.
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It sucks when the Democratic party invites people to our country and are denied by people that belong here? Is that what you are trying to say?
they are within their rights to detain criminals at the border. aclu does not care about that
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I don't see a problem with a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, performing this task.

They see someone performing an illegal activity and detain them until law enforcement arrives. Which is the same as a citizen's arrest in most states.
this is how politics controls the rights of citizens! now dems will vote to control arrest of illegal aliens!
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this is how politics controls the rights of citizens! now dems will vote to control arrest of illegal aliens!
That's a lie

California has allowed the citizens arrest of illegal aliens for decades and the Supreme Court upheld the rights of citizens to arrest others for offenses as minor as misdemeanors and that's not going to change.
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That's a lie

California has allowed the citizens arrest of illegal aliens for decades and the Supreme Court upheld the rights of citizens to arrest others for offenses as minor as misdemeanors and that's not going to change.
capture and release. i think you posted the news! the problem comes up when big brother starts telling you when you can arrest an illegal. that shit at home depot is a partial display of the american justice system.
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'Detained'.....
It's a criminal case of taking people hostage and /or unlawful confinement.....
- Dangerous self-crowned Lord of the Flies power because no oversight authority is reining these law-breakers in.
Are citizens allowed to 'detain' based on suspicions or only interceding a definite illegal activity. ie, Latinos hiking in a desert area gets held up by gun-toting military-clad civilians merely suspecting they are 'illegal' migrants? In such a scenario citizens who are armed could be within their rights to use force against militias attempting to hold them hostage? - for all these American citizens know they've crossed paths with murderers pretending to be 'militia' and self-defence becomes legit. In the latest migrant caravan there were local border-area landowners who did not want militias intruding on their lands..... https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...026-story.html
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don't be surprised if you wake up with guns going off. this may be the straw
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Got my daily dose of gfy racisme....

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don't be surprised if you wake up with guns going off. this may be the straw
Republicans had full control of our government for two years. They passed no laws to appease the right wing agenda. I'm not talking executive orders that can be reversed with the next president I'm talking actual laws.

It's all bulshit.

Oh and if you're going to be an ALT right militia man at the border, it's best not to lie and say that you are a border patrol agent and it's best not to be a convicted felon with firearms on you

"The FBI arrested Hopkins Saturday on charges of possessing firearms and ammunition as a convicted felon. Recent video footage released by UCP shows two members holding what appear to be semi-automatic rifles near immigrants, many of them children. *

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Got my daily dose of gfy racisme....

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so claim racism and just let them through? or follow the law?
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It sucks when the Democratic party invites people to our country and are denied by people that belong here? Is that what you are trying to say?
American Businesses are the ones opening the door to these people. They need to stop giving these people jobs and they won't stay here. Don't be fooled, Trump wants foreign workers as do American businesses. Capitalism actually turns a blind eye to illegal immigration while letting the government (us the taxpayers) foot the bill for those who can't or won't work.

I actually agree with Trump about changing some laws on asylum. I think too many people are taking advantage of this. But, Trump is stupid and surely he will fuck it up and create bad PR for the American brand.

We should all actually be pissed off at the Mexican government for allowing thousands of people to cross into their country to become our problem. I also agreed with Trump on that. They should foot some of the bill to.

We better get more involved about that is going on in the places these people are coming from as well. What kind of policies do we have with these central American countries? Should we be intervening politically? Most definitely. Stop giving them money? That's a hard line approach that could devastatingly make things way worse. Not to mention we have our American Capitalistic hands in their economies as well.
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Look at that sad MUG. A bunch of guys like this and unregulated vigilantes asserting control over not just men, but women and children.....what could go wrong?
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Trump is more concerned about building his legacy wall then he is about actually protecting the border.

If he was so concerned, he would be adding more border agents now instead of building that facade.
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yeah i remember you saying that a while back. you guys in cali have to push for a cleaning up house. the employer sanctions law is on a federal level. start reporting illegals. get news stations to report illegal hiring businesses.
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The illegal alien got the wrong friend. And I'm not sayin this because I want immigrants flooding over the border. I think people like you are the problem with our country.
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The illegal alien got the wrong friend. And I'm not sayin this because I want immigrants flooding over the border. I think people like you are the problem with our country.
it's his pain not yours. some guy here killed a couple illegal aliens. he deported them permanently! if zilla goes judge dred....

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/23/u...na-desert.html
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it's his pain not yours. some guy here killed a couple illegal aliens. he deported them permanently! if zilla goes judge dred....
Brassmonkey you've gone full retard.

You:re racist to Mexicans as much as white supremacists are racist to you. You're being lazy & taking the easy way out just like white supremacists do. Oh well. You're set in your ways. It is what it is. None of us are perfect.
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You alt right hate illegals but love your law breaking felons


F.B.I. Arrests Leader of Right-Wing Militia That Detained Migrants in New Mexico

Hector Balderas, New Mexico’s attorney general, said federal agents had arrested the leader, Larry Mitchell Hopkins, who had been operating under the alias Johnny Horton Jr. Mr. Balderas said in a statement that Mr. Hopkins was arrested on charges of firearms possession by a felon.
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you would have made such a great Nazi in 1933...
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Brassmonkey you've gone full retard.

You:re racist to Mexicans as much as white supremacists are racist to you. You're being lazy & taking the easy way out just like white supremacists do. Oh well. You're set in your ways. It is what it is. None of us are perfect.
oh man yeah. enforcing laws is racist. you pay back all the money they are sucking out of cali! all that murder and shit they are doing! ms 13 and 18 st gang... surenos(ms 13) and nortenos
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Remind you of family?
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The illegal alien got the wrong friend. And I'm not sayin this because I want immigrants flooding over the border. I think people like you are the problem with our country.
Because I will stand up for family? Fuck you are a weak minded person
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yeah i remember you saying that a while back. you guys in cali have to push for a cleaning up house. the employer sanctions law is on a federal level. start reporting illegals. get news stations to report illegal hiring businesses.
Liberal judge gave him a year for manslaughter and hit and run. He was more concerned about ICE deporting him. We need better judges and Trump has been putting them in place.
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Liberal judge gave him a year for manslaughter and hit and run. He was more concerned about ICE deporting him. We need better judges and Trump has been putting them in place.
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You're a hateful racist and use your imaginary friends death as an excuse to justify killing all Mexicans.

Do you realize what a full on retard you are? No of course not. Because that would require you being self-aware which you're too retarded to be.

If a white man killed your friend you wouldn't justify killing all white people would you? No. Because you're a full-on fucking racist retard.
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half of my family, yes, never hid it. i got disinherited because i called them out, cost me tens of thousands of euros

and i will keep calling out racists shitheads like you anytime
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According to an arrest warrant for Larry Mitchell Hopkins, witnesses told authorities that he’d said the United Constitutional Patriots were training to “assassinate” liberal billionaire George Soros, former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, and former President Barack Obama.

Witnesses also told authorities in Oct. 2017 that the group “had its ‘base’ at Hopkins’s residence, was supported by approximately 20 members, and was armed with AK-47 rifles and other firearms,” the arrest warrant states.
here is the " residence " ( surprise, a trailer park beat down one-wide trailer ... ):

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Here is the face of Trump base :



Larry Mitchell Hopkins
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Aren’t you being racist tho? If I posted a pic of a gangbanger and said these are Obama supporters, you’d cry wasiss.
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The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) wants members of a volunteer militia group arrested for detaining illegal immigrants at gunpoint and impersonating U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

Members of the United Constitutional Patriots, a conservative group in New Mexico, unofficially patrol the U.S.-Mexico border in their home state and detain immigrants crossing the border.

This week, the group detained nearly 300 people, including families with young children, near Sunland Park, as recorded in a video posted to Facebook by member Jim Benvie. “Oh, and look what we got here, guys,” Benvie, 43, said during the live video while stopping a family. “Border control,” he told the group, despite the fact he is not employed by U.S. government.

In the video, Benvie is joined by his camouflage-clad partner who calls border security agents to retrieve the immigrants. “...You never know what’s coming through that wall,” said Benvie. “You gotta have the kids. That’s the passport.”

In more videos, Benvie calls for people to stand behind President Trump, describing immigration as “a very organized invasion.” According to BuzzFeed, a Border Patrol agent temporarily left five women and their children in the care of the United Constitutional Patriots.

Videos of hot and thirsty families cowering in the sand caused the ACLU of New Mexico to demand state officials intervene. On Thursday, the organization sent a letter to Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham and Attorney General Hector Balderas.

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I am NOT a friend of the invading hordes ( in Europe or USA) but these armed rednecks are taking the law into their own hands only because they disagree with it. That is called in all civilized countries an anarchy....they all should be disarmed and charged with insurrection and jailed. Law should be changed with the ballot NOT with illegal militia...
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Aren’t you being racist tho? If I posted a pic of a gangbanger and said these are Obama supporters, you’d cry wasiss.
Trump supporters are not a race ....
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I don't see a problem with a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, performing this task.

They see someone performing an illegal activity and detain them until law enforcement arrives. Which is the same as a citizen's arrest in most states.
Who regulates them ( and "well" at that ) for fucks sake ? This is the dumbest argument for these yahoos taking the law into their own hands, since somebody defended Jack the Ripper as a peaceful knife salesman.

Just for the record : I am agianst illegal emigration, for Trump to get his wall and even close the border. I am for his declaration of national emergency and sending toops to block them, and also for deporting them on mass to where they came from, BUT I cannot condone anarchy !
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here is the " residence " ( surprise, a trailer park beat down one-wide trailer ... ):

have you ever heard of a f.o.b? he does not live out in the fuking desert at the border!!
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have you ever heard of a f.o.b? he does not live out in the fuking desert at the border!!
Check google earth ... you will see his trailer ... about 50-75 miles from the border .....

North of Albuquerque ....

https://www.google.com/maps/search/F.../data=!3m1!4b1


He "lives" in Flora Vista .

\( lol ... a spanish name ... or if you prefer a mexican name .... lol .... )
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have you ever heard of a f.o.b? he does not live out in the fuking desert at the border!!
A fucking FOB is not a pop up fucking trailer.
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So.... The leader of this group was arrested because he was a convicted felon, not allowed to own firearms, and that was that.... The rest of the group was kicked off of private property yesterday.

What a bunch of fucking idiots.
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sure it can be. it doesN'T have to be a large military version. they eat there and all the other things you do when on duty. when they get funding it will be much larger. you just wait and see.
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So.... The leader of this group was arrested because he was a convicted felon, not allowed to own firearms, and that was that.... The rest of the group was kicked off of private property yesterday.

What a bunch of fucking idiots.
yeah idiots trying to make a difference. while you sit near those cities and towns that house illegal aliens!
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Wouldn't that be something if true!!!

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Why don't you make a difference and arrest your hood rat criminals.

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half of my family, yes, never hid it. i got disinherited because i called them out, cost me tens of thousands of euros

and i will keep calling out racists shitheads like you anytime
You should say that in front of my Hispanic friends that I call brother. Thanks for trying so hard to be a moron, shows what a weak minded twatwaffle you are. You clearly have nothing to say anyone wants to hear so I'll just block you. Sig hiel!
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Second thought, you unlike most of these posters go to conventions, my buddy wants me to go to a couple of them next year to help him, maybe I should look you up . Show you exactly how I feel about you, fucking Nazi!
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