WARNING rasmus and john at porncastle ARE offering sites at half price, without site owners knowing

[necoeds]

I was made aware of this problem 2 weeks ago

TAKE A SECOND and google your site name + discount in google
"nebraskacoeds discount" for example

It's easier to show you guys than to explain more

Then when I called them out on this 2 weeks ago, they apologized and removed the pages... so I decided to give them a pass...

Then 3 days later they had the links back up

SO I again emailed, and they again removed

NOW today, I see that they are still keeping the urls alive that have my website names in them. Still trying to catch people from google looking for a discount to my sites.


HERE'S WHERE IT'S INTERESTING, READ THEIR ATTITUDES TOWARDS MY SITES' NAMES AND LIKENESSES




Here is the john guys response... it's so sad, it's laughable

[Rochard]

So... Someone is offering a special on a website? And? The problem is? Affiliates make less money. Well, yes, that is how it works. The affiliate gets a percentage of the sale. The affiliate program sets the price of the site, and the affiliate gets a percentage. That's always how it works. Some of the more advanced larger programs might be able to allow the affiliates to set the price of the site, but if not the affiliates are at the mercy of the affiliate program who sets the price.

[necoeds]

not a special, they are offering a special but linking to another sites join page using my sites info as the catfished link

[PornDiscounts-V]

Should I post my other response where I conceded that you are right to feel pissed off, but your instant lawyers are involved email was a dick move that was totally unnecessary?

Why don't you trademark the names of your sites?

We have no problem taking it down. I've been on vacation for the past two weeks. I was alerted to the issue yesterday. It is now Sunday. I have issues to attend to home wise. I told you I'd look into it tomorrow. You were again a dick and said you gave us time. Cool.

Wait a day asshole.

[necoeds]

man FUCK your vacation.

remove the shit today, you cat fishing mother fucker

You are a thief and you knowingly stole from me, by using my site names and linking to netvideogirls join page for the past 1.5 years.

I you ever want to afford another vacation, you'll fix your greedy fucking mistakes now.

I was nice 2 weeks ago when i caught your fucking scammer asses...

I was nice 1 week ago when I caught you doing the same fucking thing again

I'm not so nice today when i'm now needing to contact your fucking retarded ass a 3rd time to stop stealing from me and my brand

Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V

Should I post my other response where I conceded that you are right to feel pissed off, but your instant lawyers are involved email was a dick move that was totally unnecessary?

Why don't you trademark the names of your sites?

We have no problem taking it down. I've been on vacation for the past two weeks. I was alerted to the issue yesterday. It is now Sunday. I have issues to attend to home wise. I told you I'd look into it tomorrow. You were again a dick and said you gave us time. Cool.

Wait a day asshole.

[RazorSharpe]

Originally Posted by Rochard

So... Someone is offering a special on a website? And? The problem is? Affiliates make less money. Well, yes, that is how it works. The affiliate gets a percentage of the sale. The affiliate program sets the price of the site, and the affiliate gets a percentage. That's always how it works. Some of the more advanced larger programs might be able to allow the affiliates to set the price of the site, but if not the affiliates are at the mercy of the affiliate program who sets the price.

The extent to which you don't fully grasp situations and say shit that makes you look stupid is very worrying.

Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V

Should I post my other response where I conceded that you are right to feel pissed off, but your instant lawyers are involved email was a dick move that was totally unnecessary?

Why don't you trademark the names of your sites?

We have no problem taking it down. I've been on vacation for the past two weeks. I was alerted to the issue yesterday. It is now Sunday. I have issues to attend to home wise. I told you I'd look into it tomorrow. You were again a dick and said you gave us time. Cool.

Wait a day asshole.

Hold on, so you're doing shady shit and the guy complaining is the asshole?

[PornDiscounts-V]

We are hiding nothing. Funny you decided to bring this to gfy. Go fuck yourself.

Now, one employee (we all love rogue employees right) decided to turn your sites into a bonus sites of NVG when they saw your site in their members area.

Result? We are using your name and they get the sale. Had somebody asked me about this first I would have schooled them on business 101. You simply don't do this. Reviews could/should have been written to include what happens in the members areas through text. Links should have remained, sending each site to the site recognized in their respective reviews. Really simple to me. It wasn't to my employees.

For that I apologize.

I offered that we both make money by putting your links in place. You said no. That was a simple fix. 2 minutes.

So I said I'll deal with you tomorrow. You said no, today. Well, we are Danish. You are American? Both countries recognize Sunday as a day of no work.

So, I'll deal with it tomorrow.

Have a funday on Sunday instead of being nuts. Dude.

[necoeds]

excerpt from an Email from John (porn discounts) today
where he clearly says he made the mistake of catfishing my customers into joining another site...

but doesn't want to fix it today, because he's busy at home... So I'm just supposed to continue to wait, after i've already waited 2 weeks for them to fix this...




John Mcghee
9:28 PM (1 hour ago)
to me

Was what our team did bullshit? Yes. I totally agreed with your side when this was brought to my attention, Jim. When I saw the setup on our side, using your hard work (making Nebraska Coeds into a brand) used to send the surfer to the NVG deal, I had a heated discussion with our employees and Rasmus about it. It really irked me because it is business 101. You just don't do that.

I will tell you it was done out of ignorance and not out of spite or coming up with a way to screw anyone (with knowledge). We are currently searching and rectifying other deals where this might be the case as well. Thank you for that.

Your attitude about this is as if we intentionally sought to profit from your work without getting you paid. That was not the case. I can assure you. It was plain ignorance.

Your heavy handed ways are just amazing. Since it is Sunday we will rest on this until Monday.

I would be willing to bet that your heavy handed ways haven't won you much in the way of life. Sure, you might have a decent level of success, but I am also sure that you could also be much more successful in life if you weren't such an asshole right out of the gate. I am sure you have heard this and ignored it for many years. So it is falling on deaf ears.

See you tomorrow.

[necoeds]

For all the time you are spending to reply to my GFY thread, you could just fix this and stop illegally using my site names

I'm american, but I have been living here in europe for 8 years. I live here in Croatia and Riga Latvia 50/50

I like the scandic people... usually I love their need for justice.

Seems the need to do things right and just wasn't taught to you by your fellow danes.

Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V

We are hiding nothing. Funny you decided to bring this to gfy. Go fuck yourself.

Now, one employee (we all love rogue employees right) decided to turn your sites into a bonus sites of NVG when they saw your site in their members area.

Result? We are using your name and they get the sale. Had somebody asked me about this first I would have schooled them on business 101. You simply don't do this. Reviews could/should have been written to include what happens in the members areas through text. Links should have remained, sending each site to the site recognized in their respective reviews. Really simple to me. It wasn't to my employees.

For that I apologize.

I offered that we both make money by putting your links in place. You said no. That was a simple fix. 2 minutes.

So I said I'll deal with you tomorrow. You said no, today. Well, we are Danish. You are American? Both countries recognize Sunday as a day of no work.

So, I'll deal with it tomorrow.

Have a funday on Sunday instead of being nuts. Dude.

[PornDiscounts-V]

I have zero issue with making the changes. I am not at home. Perhaps I should have been more specific. I am running errands. When I am home I can spend some time rectifying the situation. Until then, can't really do that. Why you felt the need to act out on Sunday I don't know. I don't work on Sunday normally. But now it is Monday in Denmark. I would suggest some THC and some Netflix for the next few hours. Your time will be better spent.

[necoeds]

porn discount scammer

your nonchalance regarding your illegal use of my brand and likeness is disturbing

and should be a warning to all sponsors who come across this thread

[Bladewire]

This thread really breaks my heart. Can't we all just be friends and make money together?

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V

Should I post my other response where I conceded that you are right to feel pissed off, but your instant lawyers are involved email was a dick move that was totally unnecessary?

Why don't you trademark the names of your sites?

We have no problem taking it down. I've been on vacation for the past two weeks. I was alerted to the issue yesterday. It is now Sunday. I have issues to attend to home wise. I told you I'd look into it tomorrow. You were again a dick and said you gave us time. Cool.

Wait a day asshole.

You're gonna call him a dick when you're pulling shady shit with his sites and name? You're a special kind of scumbag. The guy making the comment above me would like to lick your asshole.

[PornDiscounts-V]

Originally Posted by candyflip

You're gonna call him a dick when you're pulling shady shit with his sites and name? You're a special kind of scumbag. The guy making the comment above me would like to lick your asshole.

Same Candyflip that was caught using others FHG templates circa 2004?

[NatalieK]

this is bad business (full stop)

calling necoeds an asshole when you´ve realised there´s shady shit going on, just wrong...

i´d suggest you get it sorted and remove those links so traffic can find it´s way to the right site, that´s just plain stealing traffic using the site name

[PornDiscounts-V]

To whom it may concern.

Some time around the end of May in 2016 we signed up to Nebraska Coeds and began promoting them. Things went swimmingly. One of those anonymous relationships whereby the affiliate and the affiliate program have no interaction because everything is working as it should be.

Sometime in December 2018 an employee who was in charge of editing reviews noticed that the members area's of a few programs where in some way combined. So that buying Net Video Girls gives you access to Nebraska Coeds, and buying a membership for NC gets you NVG. That employee had shown sufficient growth in their training and had never made a boneheaded move like this before, so we let this person off the chain to handle things on their own.

This employee combined the NC reviews into NVG. This meant that if you came to our site and clicked on NC, you ended up going to NVG to actually make your purchase.

I explained to Jim that I also felt this was a dumb move and we handled it with a ration of shit while I was on vacation. When I got back from vacation I read the Emails from Jim and was taken back by his accusatory stature. Nobody here knowingly tried to rip him off and the amount is laughably small. Like $350 per month is my guesstimate of how much was lost due to this error.

I just got back home. I have scanned our DB's and removed all mention of his sites from them. Which I was planning to do without him going ape shit from the very first email, threatening litigation.

We will gladly send you the $350 x 6 months of error. Not a big deal. This is such a small amount of money for somebody to begin with, "lawyers are involved."

What I did offer him was to forget this issue and put it back to him getting the credit for the sales. He went even more ape shit demanding that I take his shit down now and that he was going to blow this shit up in my face. Really? Over such a small amount of money?

I guess I just don't understand the logic.

If it were me, I would have said, hey, put the shit back to us both making money, then send me a check for the money I lost while you had it in error. Then if the response was no I would go apeshit.

Our company has always worked with programs to positive outcomes when there is a problem. This is the first time in 4 years of business that we've had something like this happen and that the owner of a program came out swinging instead of just asking us what is up.

[necoeds]

look man, you are a scammer, everyone knows that now

you had top google spots, using my content and site names, but catfished the links to another sponsors join page

https://web.archive.org/web/20180307...ted-porn-club/

DO NOT USE ANYONES INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY TO SELL OTHER PEOPLES PRODUCTS.

Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V

To whom it may concern.

Some time around the end of May in 2016 we signed up to Nebraska Coeds and began promoting them. Things went swimmingly. One of those anonymous relationships whereby the affiliate and the affiliate program have no interaction because everything is working as it should be.

Sometime in December 2018 an employee who was in charge of editing reviews noticed that the members area's of a few programs where in some way combined. So that buying Net Video Girls gives you access to Nebraska Coeds, and buying a membership for NC gets you NVG. That employee had shown sufficient growth in their training and had never made a boneheaded move like this before, so we let this person off the chain to handle things on their own.

This employee combined the NC reviews into NVG. This meant that if you came to our site and clicked on NC, you ended up going to NVG to actually make your purchase.

I explained to Jim that I also felt this was a dumb move and we handled it with a ration of shit while I was on vacation. When I got back from vacation I read the Emails from Jim and was taken back by his accusatory stature. Nobody here knowingly tried to rip him off and the amount is laughably small. Like $350 per month is my guesstimate of how much was lost due to this error.

I just got back home. I have scanned our DB's and removed all mention of his sites from them. Which I was planning to do without him going ape shit from the very first email, threatening litigation.

We will gladly send you the $350 x 6 months of error. Not a big deal. This is such a small amount of money for somebody to begin with, "lawyers are involved."

What I did offer him was to forget this issue and put it back to him getting the credit for the sales. He went even more ape shit demanding that I take his shit down now and that he was going to blow this shit up in my face. Really? Over such a small amount of money?

I guess I just don't understand the logic.

If it were me, I would have said, hey, put the shit back to us both making money, then send me a check for the money I lost while you had it in error. Then if the response was no I would go apeshit.

Our company has always worked with programs to positive outcomes when there is a problem. This is the first time in 4 years of business that we've had something like this happen and that the owner of a program came out swinging instead of just asking us what is up.

[necoeds]

bringing shit back up from 2004... who the fuck cares man

so other people are also shady, so you can be shady too

who the fuck are you man...

ATTENTION ALL READING THIS THREAD, THIS PORN DISCOUNT GUY TALKS ALOT, BUT DOESN'T FIX ANYTHING.

STILL STEALING AND ACTING SHADY AFTER APOLOGIZING AND EXPLAINING PUBLICLY

Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V

Same Candyflip that was caught using others FHG templates circa 2004?

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by necoeds

bringing shit back up from 2004... who the fuck cares man

so other people are also shady, so you can be shady too

who the fuck are you man...

ATTENTION ALL READING THIS THREAD, THIS PORN DISCOUNT GUY TALKS ALOT, BUT DOESN'T FIX ANYTHING.

STILL STEALING AND ACTING SHADY AFTER APOLOGIZING AND EXPLAINING PUBLICLY

I’m going to look into my links/sites. Thanks for the heads up

[PornDiscounts-V]

Originally Posted by necoeds

look man, you are a scammer, everyone knows that now

you had top google spots, using my content and site names, but catfished the links to another sponsors join page

https://web.archive.org/web/20180307...ted-porn-club/

DO NOT USE ANYONES INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY TO SELL OTHER PEOPLES PRODUCTS.

Another sponsor who you shared a membership area with. So it is no wonder that one of my editors made a mistake. Dude, just drop it. We are talking $350 a month. And I'm being generous. And you want to act like we are xvideos. The leading spot for your own brand names.

[gorillaz_]

[necoeds]

Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V

Another sponsor who you shared a membership area with. So it is no wonder that one of my editors made a mistake. Dude, just drop it. We are talking $350 a month. And I'm being generous. And you want to act like we are xvideos. The leading spot for your own brand names.

so you openly admit that you stole $350 per month from me, for 18 months?

I have never met you, and you have stolen $6,300 in your own words away from my brand and sites.

WE DO NOT SHARE MEMBERS AREAS, WE SHARE ACCESS AS A BONUS TO OUR CUSTOMERS, NOT AS A SELLING POINT.

YOU UNDERCUT OUR ENTIRE PROGRAM, AND YOU STOLE FROM 5 OF MY BRANDS.

AND YOU'RE STILL USING THE LINKS. I JUST CHECKED AGAIN...

THIEVING ASSHOLES!

FIX THE LINKS, OR THE LEGAL ASSAULT ON YOUR HOSTING PROVIDERS AND UPPER LEVEL PROVIDERS WILL START.

[NoWhErE]

The guy is offering to fix stuff and even offering you money and you're still pissed? I don't get it. No way a lawsuit would cost you less than what "lost" (and you would need to prove the amount lost). You have nothing to win and lots to lose in this scenario.

I think emotions are running wild over something that is easily fixed. I get that you're pissed, but take a breather.

[Busty2]

In any industry Customer Service is number one in my book. Porncastle calling customers a dick is not in any CS handbook i have ever seen !

[necoeds]

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

The guy is offering to fix stuff and even offering you money and you're still pissed? I don't get it. No way a lawsuit would cost you less than what "lost" (and you would need to prove the amount lost). You have nothing to win and lots to lose in this scenario.

I think emotions are running wild over something that is easily fixed. I get that you're pissed, but take a breather.

think you misread something above... he's not offering money, he's only telling me the amount of money he made from stealing from me.

and he's offering help to fix the links, but he's not actually fixing it....

no need to take him to court... he's a scumbag and likely has nothing of value that i would want anyway

he definitely has no class... I caught him stealing thousands, and I let it slide once, then he did it again 3 days later... then I talked a little shit, but then he fixed it again... and now it's 2 weeks later, and i checked and he had things back to being exploitative of my brand

[NoWhErE]

Originally Posted by necoeds

think you misread something above... he's not offering money, he's only telling me the amount of money he made from stealing from me.

Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V

We will gladly send you the $350 x 6 months of error. Not a big deal. This is such a small amount of money for somebody to begin with, "lawyers are involved."

I don't know if I'm still misreading... (link to the post where I got my quote)

[necoeds]

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

I don't know if I'm still misreading... (link to the post where I got my quote)

oops, yeah, i am the one who misread...

but anyway he did this for 15 months (first instance seen on the wayback machine on archive.org was march 7, 2018)

so 15 x 350 = $5,250

plus this only is what his affiliate payout percent, and doesn't reflect that amount sent to the other paysites join page wrongly...

so what's his percent, 50%?

so he owes me $10,000k in lost sales
ILLEGALLY SENT TO ANOTHER'S JOIN PAGE BY CATFISHING THE LINK

x 8 other sites in total that he did this to

5 of the sties are mine, the other 3 owners are not wanting drama it seems...


ANYWAY MAN, he wouldn't send any money anyway... but if he would send me even 1800 to my paypal vanderslicejd at gmail, then i'll totally forget this whole thing for sure

He's just full of hot air...

[necoeds]

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

I don't know if I'm still misreading... (link to the post where I got my quote)

and yeah i'm lighting up a J now to chill out ...

https://web.archive.org/web/20180307...ted-porn-club/

there's the link to the proof of the beginning of his theft from me

Also, the 10,000 realistic figure of what he directly caused me to lose in sales, is actually double, since he was offering the product at 15.99 using the special arrangement he made with the other paysite

that means my real loss in sales from this is somewhere around $20,000 so far... just so he could make a small fraction of it for himself

lose thief, and I DO NOT believe for 1 moment that this was a rogue employee... this was a planned and executed attack on my brand... i think they knew what they were doing...

[NoWhErE]

You could also just ask him to put a direct link to your site and profit on a much longer term basis while avoiding any type of bad blood. You would end up winning so much more in the long run.

just my 2 cents

[CaptainHowdy]

Dimes are hard. Hope it gets solved.

[Grimble Grumble]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

This thread really breaks my heart. Can't we all just be friends and make money together?

Yes we should, expecially when it comes to small business.

[Wautier]

But aren't you that guy who couldn't get his dick up with that hot teacher?

[celandina]

Thieves will be thieves. Even if a long standing GFY members..Sad.

[necoeds]

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

You could also just ask him to put a direct link to your site and profit on a much longer term basis while avoiding any type of bad blood. You would end up winning so much more in the long run.

just my 2 cents

I have an open affiliate program, there's nothing stopping him from doing that, just he couldn't say there is a discount then, which is against the idea of the service he's offering...

basically he's a porn group-on wannabe, but instead of only making deals with sponsors, he just finds loopholes on getting memberships, and catfishes the customers to his other join pages...

[necoeds]

Originally Posted by Grimble Grumble

Yes we should, expecially when it comes to small business.

I'm chill as fuck about everything... i just want problems fixed so I can roll up another and chill... this shit is stupid af. and even with this public noise, he's still not changing his links...

so he's keeping pressure on the group of sites we have formed with our other partner sites... which will ruin alot of other ads and partnerships he's made with our other group sponsors...

he's an idiot scammer. Only looking for money in front of him, and doesn't care the long term costs he's causing for himself and others

[PornDiscounts-V]

Clear your browser cache, Jim. It is caching the redirect.

I went to your way back machine link. It sent me to your join page.

We didn't have the wrong link until December of 2018. You got paid for sales up until then. Not the date we joined your program.

We didn't have an actual discount then. The discount is referencing yearly pricing.

So 18 months? No. I have screenshots of our sales with you and when they took a dive. December 2018. Before that we weren't "catfishing" as you call it.

$1800 to your PayPal? Consider it done. Now let's see if you are a man of your word.

[PornDiscounts-V]

Originally Posted by necoeds

I have an open affiliate program, there's nothing stopping him from doing that, just he couldn't say there is a discount then, which is against the idea of the service he's offering...

basically he's a porn group-on wannabe, but instead of only making deals with sponsors, he just finds loopholes on getting memberships, and catfishes the customers to his other join pages...

We have made thousands of deals directly with sponsors.

[militsa]

it's interesting how people interpret law the way it suits their needs. once i've got a notice from a well-known sponsor back at the day expecting me to take their links down like yesterday. all without even notifying their affiliates about any changes.

what does the law actually say: replying to a DMCA notice has no deadline. the default setting for most of these applications is 14 days though they can range between 7 and 30 days.

apart from the URL in question, the most important part of the DMCA notice is:
"I have a good faith belief that the use of this material in such a fashion is not authorized by the copyright holder, the copyright holder's agent, or the law;"

so guess who's getting richer whenever one visits a lawyer?

calling somebody a thief in public actually allows them to sue you for defamation. personally i would suggest you to apologize and take an apology back, get the money as a sign of good faith and bury the hatchet. too much drama lately and not much business around...

[PornDiscounts-V]

More like $180 per month. And you can see that the issue arose in December.
$180 x 6 = $1080
Paid $1800.

We are generous.

[NoWhErE]

Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V

More like $180 per month. And you can see that the issue arose in December.
$180 x 6 = $1080
Paid $1800.

We are generous.

Much more generous than most people would have been. Glad this ended on a somewhat proper note.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V

More like $180 per month. And you can see that the issue arose in December.
$180 x 6 = $1080
Paid $1800.

We are generous.

nice to see you like to deal with business in a proper manner and this payment for loss of earnings seems very reasonable.

Both of you should be happy with this outcome...

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by PornDiscounts-V

More like $180 per month. And you can see that the issue arose in December.
$180 x 6 = $1080
Paid $1800.

We are generous.

. . .