pimpmaster9000

just further proof that anything related to the US army and US gov is a complete scam and money grab...

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celandina

Nothing much new here. 100 years ago small subs sank huge Dreadnought type of battle ships. History repeats itself

crockett

Putinbot... No carrier, no battleship not even any sub is safe in today's world.. In fact if WW3 ever happened its assured every carrier in every nations fleet would be sunk..

Except Russia's only carrier because it would have be bombed in dry dock....lol

The deterrent not to attack a US carrier is not because its hard to sink, but rather if you do.. you are getting nuked..

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Rochard

So a submarine can sink an aircraft carrier? Who knew?

Aircraft carriers are huge targets - prime targets. This is why when they go out to sea they go with dozens of other ships called aircraft carrier groups. The other ships are to protect the aircraft carrier, by acting as bait and also searching out for threats such as submarines. The goal of the opposing force is to sneak a submarine in to take out the aircraft carrier.

However, there is only a handful of countries in the world that have such submarines that could take on an aircraft carrier and an aircraft carrier group. These would be limited to China and Russia. Other countries include the UK, France, and India. Iran doesn't have any nuclear submarines, only seven or eight old diesel submarines.

Here are some odd facts I came across when looking up stats just now... The US Navy had 22 attack aircraft carriers during WW II and lost five of those. The Imperial Japanese Navy had fourteen attack aircraft carriers during WW II and lost eleven of them

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BaldBastard

It's from 2005, its now 2019 you realise? maybe its one of the points of having war games with allies and just possibly something they might of countered by now?

Hypersonic missiles is where every one is headed, and once they come into play which WILL be in the next 5 years, then every previous weapon/ defence is redundant.

USA better be nice to China because their the most likely to have them first.

imabro

And apparently Sweden

pimpmaster9000

IMO the supposed power of the US army is a scam...keep in mind that the US army comes from the same crew that give you US healthcare...

serbs shot down an american "stealth" fighter with a russian radar rocket system from the 60s...chineese can spot US "stealth" with a fishing radar...albeit a quantum fishing radar, but still, a fishing radar...a sweedish sub can sink a 6bn$ carrier...

I mean sure, the invaders bomb and cruise missile some 3rd world rubes and get illusions of grandeur about themselves...but IRL, all nukes aside, they do not stand even a theoretical chance against russia or china in a real conventional war...

china will own asia in a decade...no asian country will want to piss off the #1 economy in the world...look for an asian union in the near future...good luck to the euro zone skeptics tiny pissant countries want to compete with the asian union

the only question is, will europe side with the #1 economy or the #4?...not a tough choice IRL...

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just a punk

Nobody won't use submarines for that. The humanity has invented cruise missiles for that.



Actually this is just a kiddie game. The Russian military doctrine says that the only way to fight aircraft carriers is the tactical nukes like SS-N-12 "Sandbox" - a small cruise missile with a 350 kiloton warhead blown up at 200 meter attitude will sink down the whole aircraft group. It's quick, simple, cheap and very effective.

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Diomed

You guys are thinking about it wrong.

Everything public is old dusty tech.

We have scalar weapons now.. Don't believe me? Just check out that space shuttle that we accidentally shot down when it was re-entering the atmosphere. 10 years ago.. Some type of automated defense system, probably 20 years old.

Think about that now.. How fast do they fly on re-entry..

At first they said it was a loose screw.. Then they changed the story to Sprite lightning

People still think of the stealth bomber as high tech.. That fucker was declassified 35 years ago.. Meaning, every space shuttle you see via rocket power is dead tech wasted resources only meant to allocate power and tilt the ladder.

Let's just call that stuff, extremely incredibly traditional warfare. Just like boots on the ground. Used only to manipulate public opinion.

If any real threats actually cropped up (or acts of God) you might just get to see what real fucking magic we have.

Until then, things like oil, cars, rockets, blah blah.. Will stay in place because the trail has already been cut. The infrastructure to glean profit (power) already in place.

I'll take the acquisition of resources for 500 Alex.

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pimpmaster9000

china already has mineral paint that renders your scalar weapons useless...

paint....



EVERYTHING about the US army is a scam IMO...EVERYTHING...there is not 1 legit thing about it...all fake crap...massive circle jerk

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You are letting your hopes and dreams cloud your judgement.

We have some sections of government (both public and not public) that are without a doubt the most competent in the world.

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pimpmaster9000

actually the tech is not that advanced if you want to test it at close range...they are using paint covered with diatomatious earth or whatever the fuck and it is enough to protect their hyperosnic missile for the 0.2 seconds it needs to pop out from the horizon...what good is a horizon weapon that can not pass through clouds or rain?...is it humid? well I got bad news for you...


the seas are off limits to the USA in 20 years...drone missile to torpedo swarms....it flies to the horizon and then dives underwater and laughs at your waste of money crap scalar crap...100s of them...swarms of 100s of them...100 swarms of 100...still cheaper than 1 aircraft carrier

feel me?

the skies will be off limits with russian kick ass tech kicking ass...you aint stealth so laws of kick ass apply...5% of the world will lose the arms race to the cheaper, more efficient 95%...


the area of freedom in the world is expanding...russia is free...china is free...that is a huge part of the population of the earth that will be safe from invaders...

swarms of tiny mother fucker cheap drones is where it will be at fill a hypersonic missile with 100 tiny drones...no propulsion needed because the missile will already accelerate it...then before the target, it releases the drones that carry some explosive and a tiny tracking device...

that kinda shit...

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OneHungLo

Do you have medication for your PTSD? Or is this your only outlet (to cry to Americans about their military meanies)?

crockett

That stealth fighter was only seen on radar because he had opened his bomb bay doors. Once those are open it's vulnerable to radar.. even still they couldn't even capture the pilot and he was rescued by a extraction team early the next morning..

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pimpmaster9000

literally everything about the US army is a scam...

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The USA has not fought against an enemy capable of fighting back since WW2

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Nitzer Ebb

Actual footage of serbian key board warrior in 1999

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There isn't any

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pimpmaster9000

faggot, how would the USA invade when their fleet is on the bottom of the ocean?...russia and china swing bigger dicks...

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Nitzer Ebb

And you will win a Nobel Prize for math and physics. LOL
Keep on watching loony toons, keyboard warrior.

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I am willing to bet that US waste of money ships do not react well to being blown up with a ruskie hypersonic missile...no math or physics necessary

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Nitzer Ebb

Too bad people in charge are not idiots like you and will never fire one shot in that direction. Most of their moneys and families live in US and Western Europe including Putin's own daughter. However, I'm willing to bet you will die as lonely, poor, cowardly and bitter serb shit. Same way you lived your pathetic life.

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Amazing to think that an engine devised nearly 200 years ago during the industrial revolution can be better than a nuke powered aircraft carrier.

pimpmaster9000

everything about the US army is a scam...

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Dude. First of all, your "stealth" fighters always have to open their bomb bay doors or how do you call that shit. Otherwise why someone needs to use them? The second thing is it was shot down by an S-125 missile designed (guess when?) in fuckin' 1950s! Even North Korea has much newer weapons.

Now listen what America says about the modern S-400 missiles.



On the video above, the America says that S-400 was made to take down the aircrafts like F-35. Guess when (again) the mentioned missile system was designed? It was designed in 1980s. Now remind me when your F-35 was designed?

P.S. For those who don't know how the stealth technology works. It really makes the targets less "visible" to the systems of 1950s. When I say "less" I don't say "not". The modern (if you can call an anti-aircraft system designed in 1980s a modern one) does not give a flying fuck on how "stealth" the shit is. It will take it down like anything else with a 100% success. Actually this is exactly what the American lady says on the video above.

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Lol, people that think they know anything about anti submarine warfare? LMAO

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pimpmaster9000

yeah right? dumb ass american tax payers LOL...

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